Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/4/22 Iñaki Arenaza iaren...@eps.mondragon.edu: I'm afraid that's not always true. Running Debian Lenny here without Paul, Iñaki, -- you guys are right. It also means that there's no point worrying about pushing extra records in the DNS responses. I've used tcpdump to dump DNS traffic

Re: [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:46 AM, da...@lang.hm wrote: I believe this is exactly what has been done over the last few years in the DNS server/DNS cache software. they used to accept extra responses like you are trying to make, but nowdays they don't. As everyone pointed out, I was wrong about

Re: [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: Imagine if it actually looked like the demo: http://www.sugarlabs.org/index.php?template=gallerypage=media_01 Exactly my thoughts. There are a couple of things we have to be mindful of as we step into the wild 3D

Re: please post comments - 801 failed to connect to AP

2009-04-22 Thread Hal Murray
My own XO (running 801) had connected to that free AP when I visited some days ago -- as far as I could tell, today it immediately re-connected when I booted it. But the XOs of two other persons (both running 801) were unable to connect when the icon for the free AP was clicked on in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-22 Thread NoiseEHC
I think most of those effects can be just as easily be done by the 2D engine (like what the Geode has). Of course it would need a LOT of coding, like killing the stupid X driver model with the X server process, using a compositing windows manager, rewriting GTK+ to use some form of retained

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2009/4/22 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu: I think most of those effects can be just as easily be done by the 2D engine (like what the Geode has). Of course it would need a LOT of coding, like killing the stupid X driver model with the X server process, using a compositing windows manager,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-22 Thread NoiseEHC
Actually, GNOME 3.0 is moving into that direction (requiring OpenGL): http://lwn.net/Articles/327845/ Hehe, seems like that I have just invented Clutter... :) More seriously, it seems that Sugar just runs ahead of Gnome and reinvents almost everything which will be created by Gnome people

Re: 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-22 Thread Hal Murray
One can use a 3D accelerator to greatly improve human factors in the GUI. Smooth transitions in the GUI are vital to reducing the user's sense of disorientation and confusion. This isn't just an issue for less-clueful users; you might not realize it but poor transitions are forcing needless

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-22 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:41, NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu wrote: Actually, GNOME 3.0 is moving into that direction (requiring OpenGL): http://lwn.net/Articles/327845/ Hehe, seems like that I have just invented Clutter... :) More seriously, it seems that Sugar just runs ahead of Gnome

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Robinson
I'm afraid that's not always true. Running Debian Lenny here without Paul, Iñaki, -- you guys are right. It also means that there's no point worrying about pushing extra records in the DNS responses. It won't affect the XS side of things, but from the XO client side of things the new

Migrate Paint to git.sl.o

2009-04-22 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, If anyone don't mind, I'm migrating Paint(Oficinia) to git.sl.o. Someone who's interested in developing this activity let me know and I'll add you to commiters list or change ownership. -- Aleksey ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-22 Thread david
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:46 AM, da...@lang.hm wrote: I believe this is exactly what has been done over the last few years in the DNS server/DNS cache software. they used to accept extra responses like you are trying to make, but nowdays they

debxo ohmd error

2009-04-22 Thread Lee Loncosky
I have an error with the ohmd, see below. Things seemed to work with pw button although I did not have a blinking power light for some reason. The error may have happened when I closed the lid. At least suspend did not work then either and then I noticed the debug error.

debxo ohmd error

2009-04-22 Thread Lee Loncosky
Apologies if this email has already been received to the list once. I had some trouble sending it. If someone wishes to get these error reports sent to another email address please advise otherwise I will continue with them here. Original Email is next But the situation has changed in

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
2009/4/22 Iñaki Arenaza iaren...@eps.mondragon.edu: I'm afraid that's not always true. Running Debian Lenny here without Paul, Iñaki, -- you guys are right. It also means that there's no point worrying about pushing extra records in the DNS responses. I've used tcpdump to dump DNS traffic

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:46 AM, da...@lang.hm wrote: I believe this is exactly what has been done over the last few years in the DNS server/DNS cache software. they used to accept extra responses like you are trying to make, but nowdays they don't. As everyone pointed out, I was wrong about

Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] Notes on service discovery XS/XO

2009-04-22 Thread Peter Robinson
I'm afraid that's not always true. Running Debian Lenny here without Paul, Iñaki, -- you guys are right. It also means that there's no point worrying about pushing extra records in the DNS responses. It won't affect the XS side of things, but from the XO client side of things the new