Re: Multi-touch [Devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 7]

2014-04-13 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
If a picture is a thousand words, what about a video [1] or [2]  Some real magic after 22 sec ;-) XO-4 touch, build 32013a4/2014-04-07, firmware q7b38, Android 4.3.1, app: Multitouch Vis Test [1] https://flic.kr/p/n3KFa2 [2] http://tinypic.com/r/2ed74ab/8

SugarCamp Paris #3 Day 2 live

2014-04-13 Thread Lionel Laské
Hi all, It was a great first day yesterday, we're slightly tired but we'll be online here [1] in 1 hour for the second day of the SugarCamp Paris #3. Some great sessions are planned: GCompris, Sugarizer, Vikidia, Bernie and two new sessions that emerging from our talks yesterday: - XO Semantic

EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi folks! Yesterday I ran a workshop covering some topics about hw development and mfg. Using a lot of material from Bunnie's blog, as well as from my time in the trenches. As part of it I tried -- and mostly failed -- to give folks a tour of early boot, using some old boards I have stashed.

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread Paul Fox
martin wrote: part text/plain1286 Hi folks! Yesterday I ran a workshop covering some topics about hw development and mfg. Using a lot of material from Bunnie's blog, as well as from my time in the trenches. As part of it I tried -- and mostly failed -- to

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 13, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Paul Fox wrote: martin wrote: Yesterday I ran a workshop covering some topics about hw development and mfg. Using a lot of material from Bunnie's blog, as well as from my time in the trenches. As part of it I tried -- and mostly failed -- to give folks a tour

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 01:48:35PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: As part of it I tried -- and mostly failed -- to give folks a tour of early boot, using some old boards I have stashed. Here I got truly lost. I could not find current useful notes on what you can do in the early CForth env.

Re: Multi-touch [Devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 7]

2014-04-13 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 11:57:31PM -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: If a picture is a thousand words, what about a video [1] or [2]  Thanks for testing. I hope this will be useful to our developer. What is the SKU? Check label underneath battery, or type .mfg-data at ok prompt and read tag

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@firmworks.com wrote: That early work is very detailed and very specific to grotty details Fantastic info -- thanks! Part of the story I am exploring is of why someone would want an EC and a tiny early interactive runtime for debugging (i.e.

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@firmworks.com wrote: That early work is very detailed and very specific to grotty details Fantastic info -- thanks! Part of the story I am exploring is of why

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Jon Nettleton wrote: Otherwise you really need a jtag debugger. Or Open Firmware --- by far the nicest bringup tool I've ever had the pleasure to use. It was painful enough using the JTAG debugger to install Open Firmware. I would hate to spend weeks in it. wad

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:25 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Jon Nettleton wrote: Otherwise you really need a jtag debugger. Or Open Firmware --- by far the nicest bringup tool I've ever had the pleasure to use. Yup. I'm learning OFW love alright

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:25 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Jon Nettleton wrote: Otherwise you really need a jtag debugger. Or Open Firmware --- by far the nicest

Re: Multi-touch [Devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 9]

2014-04-13 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
  If a picture is a thousand words, what about a video [1] or [2]? Thanks for testing.  I hope this will be useful to our developer. What is the SKU?  Check label underneath battery, or type .mfg-data at ok prompt and read tag sk. 306 What is the touchscreen firmware version?  See

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 13, 2014, at 11:44 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: But in the back of my mind I run through how would you use u-boot in bringup instead of ofw?. Before OFW, I used assembler code and C debugging shells (think peek/poke/test mem/run dedicated test functions/boot OS), but I last did than on

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Mitch Bradley w...@firmworks.com wrote: Recompiling can work if you fine tune your build and download setup so the crank-turn time is very short, like less than a minute. The very first thing I did when I joined OLPC was to fix the firmware downloader. I was

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 14, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote: But I do like having the bootloader right on the SDHC card. Virtually unbrickable. But it precludes any of the anti-theft mechanisms that most of OLPC's customers were looking for. (anti-theft = keeping the NSA off my laptop/router/TOR box)