Re: CIPA done

2008-05-07 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 04:17:04PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > That doesn't mean it&#

Re: CIPA done

2008-05-07 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Already sent to Cahalan, forgot to CC devel] > > On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 02:51:27PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Joshua N Pritikin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > That is tot

Re: An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-07 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:10 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Well, I think we should provide a set of default activities. And I > > think those should include the educational ones. Shipping d

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-07 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Opnions? ( we get an useful replacement that lacks ... ) > > > > > - Support for mounting removable datastores. We have agreed on moving > > to just list the files in removable devices, without the DS having > > any

Re: Gamepad and Rocker Images?

2008-05-01 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben writes: > > We're actually going to be putting some more > > effort behind handheld mode in the relatively near future > > From my point of view, better button support is an ESSENTIAL part > of making the OLPC e

Re: Gamepad and Rocker Images?

2008-05-01 Thread Eben Eliason
dialog-accept and dialog-cancel match the check and x handheld buttons. It might also be reasonable to use the go-left/right/up/down icons in the theme for the rocker. They share the same stroked arrow, though of course have a standard circular shape instead of the pie -slice form of the rocker.

Re: Journal Suggestions

2008-04-30 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:15 AM, James Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To be truthful I would be perfectly happy if the SD card just had metadata, > including screenshots, like regular journal entries have. The other Journal Quoting Jameson: "Technically, I think this would mean that the m

Re: Journal Suggestions

2008-04-29 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:46 PM, James Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben, > > Considering the complexity of having one Journal which could be spread > across two devices, one of which could be removed, I think I would favor > having two separate but equal Journals. The second Journal woul

Re: Journal Suggestions

2008-04-29 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Eben Eliason wrote: > | On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM, James Simmons > | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > |> Ebe

Re: Journal Suggestions

2008-04-29 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM, James Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eben, > > You bring up some points I hadn't considered. I agree that thumb drives > and the like probably shouldn't have their files modified if all you are > doing is reading them. By their nature these drives will b

Re: 15 computer science collegians looking for a project

2008-04-29 Thread Eben Eliason
I could very well be way off target with this suggestion, but an implementation of Groups (background reading, though not quite up to date: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Human_Interface_Guidelines/The_Laptop_Experience/Zoom_Metaphor#Groups) seems like a perfect place for some additional help. It

Re: Journal Suggestion

2008-04-29 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:26 PM, James Simmons > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I, too have suggestions for the Journal: > > > > 1). The Journal should show, as a percentage perhaps, how much disk > > spac

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-29 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:14 AM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 20

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-28 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:33:13AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > > Well, I guess I need to know a bit more about the technical details > > that will be in play in this circumstance. Since

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-28 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > - Initial HTTP check for protocol and XS availability stays. We drop > > the 'nonce' value. > > - Q: Any reason for this being

[PATCH] Fix Keep Icon in Journal (Was: Recursive Signal Loop.)

2008-04-25 Thread Eben Eliason
ave to live with the slow feedback on the favorite buttons in the interim. - Eben On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 5:25

Re: Auto backlight management?

2008-04-24 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:43 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bert misread the spec. When the backlight is switched off, the screen > automatically switches to B&W mode. Why would you want to take > that out of the control of the user ? I'm working on mockups for a "screen

Re: Auto backlight management?

2008-04-24 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [...] The XO does not have an ambient light sensor. The backlight > > is not turned off automatically in sunlight. [...] > > Opportunistic use of the on-board camer

Re: [sugar] Recursive Signal Loop.

2008-04-24 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 24.04.2008, at 22:56, Eben Eliason wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > you check th

Re: [sugar] Recursive Signal Loop.

2008-04-24 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Jameson Chema Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you check the keep property before you set it, and do not touch it if you > are not going to change it. That does in fact sound like a reasonable way to handle it. It doesn't require an extra time around "the loop".

Recursive Signal Loop.

2008-04-24 Thread Eben Eliason
Hello, my name is Eben Eliason, and I have a problem... Symptom: The keep buttons in the Journal (the stars) take 1 second or so between being clicked and visually reflecting that change. This is, admittedly, a rather minor problem, but as you'll see, it spells out a larger underlying ugl

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-22 Thread Eben Eliason
2008/4/22 Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/4/22 Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > 2008/4/22 Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > 2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > >

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-22 Thread Eben Eliason
2008/4/22 Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My solution is the simplest design I could create that allows both > > > emergency restore (laptop FS has been

Re: Synchronizing xs-0.3 and xo-??? --- backups

2008-04-22 Thread Eben Eliason
2008/4/22 Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Ivan Krstić > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My solution is the simplest design I could create that allows both > > emergency restore (laptop FS has been trashed, get everything back) and > > individual file res

Re: Internet wide chat

2008-04-21 Thread Eben Eliason
> - for large schools of 1000 students, they ask how the mesh view UI >would scale. Are we switching to a search-based interface in when >there are so many kids clustered in the same LAN? This is the intended design direction, but it hasn't been implemented yet. We do have search, but

Re: [PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-17 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [apart from some feedback on your first two comments I can get a new > patch out later today -- so can you focus on those sections please?] > > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:00:48AM -0400, Eben E

Re: [PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-16 Thread Eben Eliason
So, I'm not the authoritative source on this, but I'll toss in my thoughts... > +lvl = self._level > +secondary_text = '' > +status_text = '%s%%' % lvl I would avoid declaring variables unless they really make serve a purpose. Here it seems to add a level of indirectio

Re: Handling TamTam Resources...

2008-04-15 Thread Eben Eliason
> Olivier Bélanger wrote: > | Is there a way to let all TamTam activities have access to a common > | directory? > > No. Activities are untrusted code. The security design assumes that > every Activity is a trojan horse, unless the user specifically requests > otherwise. > > > | How do thi

Re: Activity Launch Notification

2008-04-15 Thread Eben Eliason
ideas are welcome, as is any feedback that indicates the common causes for the accidental activation. (Is it the jumpy trackpad? attempts to hit buttons in toolbars? activities with canvases such as paint? etc.) - Eben > -Original Message- > From: Eben Eliason [mailto:[EMA

Activity Launch Notification

2008-04-15 Thread Eben Eliason
> What if the activity "hangs"? > > I have seen that several times with Xaos fractal builder activity and > possibly others. I remember one case in Nepal where it took 20 minutes > to launch eToys. > > I think the UI suggestion is great and will help prevent kids from > clicking on many activ

Re: fun and games with trying to un-suspend

2008-04-15 Thread Eben Eliason
I too have been having this issue lately, after having updated to 1850. I've never inserted an SD card, so I'm not sure if that's a false positive or not in your case. It happens to me almost regularly when waking the laptop from a closed state, with exactly the same symptoms described in the fir

Re: [sugar] Clipboard Notification

2008-04-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 14 Apr 2008, at 15:04, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > > > Personal note: Been running the "new look" Sugar/Joyride for a > > while. [It does what you describe when an Activity is launched.] > > > > I've now trained myse

Re: Clipboard Notification

2008-04-14 Thread Eben Eliason
> I am a believer in "show notifications where the user is looking, > not off in a corner somewhere": > > When an asynchronous notification occurs, the user should NOT be > "taken away" from what he is doing. Absent a "bell", the simplest > "alert" I can think of is to "flash" the screen once

Re: Clipboard Notification

2008-04-14 Thread Eben Eliason
> in the activity tray. I'm trying to make it so when someone copies something > instead of it popping up the frame for a second it shows a pulsing > notification icon in the top left hand corner. Just a notethe notification for a clipping is supposed to appear in the lower left corner, not th

Re: Where did all the activities go?

2008-04-11 Thread Eben Eliason
Marcus - You've grabbed a build in a bit of a transition period. It contains the basic implementation of the new designs, which you can review on the wiki at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Activity_Management. The toolbar in Home offers two views -- ring and list -- and the former displays onl

Re: [PATCH] Remove Ctrl-O (the letter "oh") keyboard shortcut to fix #4646

2008-04-07 Thread Eben Eliason
Yes, I'm fine with this. - Eben On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Martin Dengler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben, > > There's been a trac bug open for a while about removing the Control-O > shortcut from the keystrokes captured by sugar so that nano can work > from the Terminal. nano's the r

Re: [sugar] Choosing "defaults" for the activity ring

2008-04-04 Thread Eben Eliason
ome a nuisance in those cases anyway. - Eben On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Eben Eliason wrote > I prefer option (1) because it's the behavior I would want as a user. With &

Re: Choosing "defaults" for the activity ring

2008-04-04 Thread Eben Eliason
> Another slightly different option for a 'fallback' mode – for when no > favourites have been set – could be simply to default the home view to the > list mode when no favourite activities are set. It would also be good if the I personally feel that the ring view will be both a friendlier interf

Choosing "defaults" for the activity ring

2008-04-04 Thread Eben Eliason
The new Home design contains a ring of a child's favorite activities. It's a shocking experience to find oneself at a home screen with no activities at all in the ring, and ensuring that some proper subset of all the activities available are shown in the ring by default will aid in discoverability

Re: [sugar] new sugar work into joyride

2008-04-03 Thread Eben Eliason
> There is a "learning curve" involved with the revised Home view > (F3). It took me a while to realize that NOTHING appears in the > "circle view of launchable Activities" until I have gone into the > "list" view and marked the star on each desired Activity. And then This is a matter of in

Re: [sugar] Mini-Conference Proposal: Toolbars & Tabs (or lack thereof)

2008-03-25 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Nate Ridderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eben, > > By no means do I consider myself a user interface expert, but I have a few > comments. > > In general, I agree that this proposal is better for localization and may > take up less screen real estate. Would ther

Re: [sugar] Mini-Conference Proposal: Toolbars & Tabs (or lack thereof)

2008-03-25 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 25 Mar 2008, at 15:47, Eben Eliason wrote: > > Taking these concerns to heart, I'd like to propose an alternate to > > the tabbed toolbar design which attempts to address these new conc

Mini-Conference Proposal: Automatic transfer/update of activities on the mesh

2008-03-25 Thread Eben Eliason
faithfully reconstruct my initial proposal and questions from the responses. - Eben On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 13:46 -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: > > Naturally, there are some security concerns, but those

Automatic transfer/update of activities on the mesh (Was: Sharing behavior in the core Read activity)

2008-03-25 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi James, > > > > Another thing I remember reading is that if two kids share an activity > > and one has an older version of the activity than the other, the older > > version gets updated so they both have the newer ve

Mini-Conference Proposal: Toolbars & Tabs (or lack thereof)

2008-03-25 Thread Eben Eliason
A lot of thought has gone into the present tabbed toolbar design, with goals of balancing valuable screen real estate with extensibility of the design. Still, we've come to find some drawbacks with the current design, including the sole use of text (which is secondary to icons in the rest of the U

Re: New bible reading activity

2008-03-15 Thread Eben Eliason
I think that judgement is a bit harsh, in this circumstance. I don't think anyone is suggesting that this replace "Read" and get shipped to every child who gets an XO. While OLPC as a mission attempts to be culturally neutral, we certainly don't aim to homogenize the coming generation of kids aro

Re: Left Hand activity

2008-03-08 Thread Eben Eliason
Charles - This sounds like a chunk of code that would fit nicely in the forthcoming Sugar Control Panel, which Simon (erikos) has recently started work on. I don't know the details, but I assume the control panel will be able to transparently assume root privileges in order to make such adjustmen

Re: User's customizations

2008-03-07 Thread Eben Eliason
Note that the new activity management designs previously referred to include the ability to fill the Home ring with one's *favorite* activities; the default set will by no means limit the customizability of this view, and none of the defaults will be forced to remain. - Eben On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 a

Re: Why is Terminal 'extra' ?

2008-03-06 Thread Eben Eliason
Yes, this was one of the aspects we like about the new design. Your suggestion reinforces the whole intent of the two views within Home. Regardless, we likely want to retain their presence within the Library so that kids can manage (including deletion of) activities without winding up entirely wi

Re: [sugar] Journal: two quick suggestions

2008-03-03 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Christoph Derndorfer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > One can > > > > imagine that the "subject" of an activity is actually > > > subjectively defined, > > > > and e

Re: [sugar] Journal: two quick suggestions

2008-02-28 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > while toying around with the Journal today I had two ideas about the > > >

Re: [sugar] Journal: two quick suggestions

2008-02-28 Thread Eben Eliason
> > while toying around with the Journal today I had two ideas about the > "anything" and "anytime" filter functions: > Both interesting ideas... "anything": Apart from offering activities and file-types as > filter-options I'm thinking that it might make sense to also offer an > option for diffe

Re: PDF reader not really user friendly...

2008-01-26 Thread Eben Eliason
> Yes, the page-up (O) and page-down (X) buttons should move to the > start of the next and previous pages not scroll a fixed amount. Could you provide some justification for this approach? Paging exactly one screen height seems most logical to me, as there's no guarantee that a full page fits on

Re: New activity: Speak

2008-01-10 Thread Eben Eliason
> Can this or the Screen Reader project be adapted to reading content, > such as the children's picturebooks provided in the Library? (We would > presumably need a text file to go with each document.) There is a project in motion which will provide a service to any sugar activity, allowing one to

Re: New activity: Speak

2008-01-10 Thread Eben Eliason
Hi Josh - This is pretty fantastic. I've enjoyed playing around with it. One simple change that I think would add a lot is some color. More specifically, the XO uses a two-tone (stroke & fill) color scheme as a form of visual identity. It would be great to fill the entire background in the chi

Re: Controlling the Glide/Pressure sensor

2008-01-10 Thread Eben Eliason
We put a lot of thought into how this might work for the Paint activity in particular, which seems like it would be a prime example for it's use in an arbitrarily large space. Special care was taken to minimize the extent to which one would have to switch between stylus and finger while drawing. N

Re: dial widget on sugar

2008-01-10 Thread Eben Eliason
We don't yet have such a control. There is a brief and partial specification for creating custom controls in the OLPC Human Interface Guidelines: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Human_Interface_Guidelines/The_Sugar_Interface/Controls/Custom_Controls - Eben On Jan 10, 2008 10:16 AM, Victor Lazza

Re: shutting off wireless for air travel

2008-01-03 Thread Eben Eliason
Also, the FAQ on the wiki has information about this and many other common questions, for future reference: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_FAQ#How_do_I_disable_wireless_when_flying.3F - Eben On Jan 3, 2008 11:36 AM, Phil Bordelon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David W Hogg wrote: > > Is there

Re: Sugar UI design and Tux Paint

2008-01-03 Thread Eben Eliason
> Agreed. I said, 'sometimes'. I think that it is better to stay non-modal if > possible. (For the last of your cases, changes to activity structure, eg > email settings or ftp server or something, an autosaving > dropdown/autocomplete list of previously-used settings is a way to provide > undo wit

Re: Sugar UI design and Tux Paint

2008-01-02 Thread Eben Eliason
> > Quite true. I think we'll probably introduce a form of fullscreen > > "modal dialog" for such a thing. That is, you press an "account > > settings" button and get a fullscreen overlay containing all of the > > necessary settings, hiding the rest of the interface, including the > > toolbar its

Re: Sugar UI design and Tux Paint

2008-01-02 Thread Eben Eliason
> > All of these are valid suggestions. The drawback to all is that they > > make assumptions about the types of selections that can be made (More > > specifically, they don't allow for compound boolean selections). > > Perhaps that's not something many (any?) kids will want or need, but > > we ha

Re: [sugar] Sugar UI design and Tux Paint

2008-01-02 Thread Eben Eliason
> Journal integration is an interesting problem. Tux Paint keeps > some extra per-image data in extra files. I'm thinking that an > export-to-journal button might be most appropriate. There is an explicit "keep" button in the activity toolbar to allow kids to save an object in a particular state.

Re: Sugar UI design and Tux Paint

2008-01-02 Thread Eben Eliason
> Sugar entails a complete redesign of some basic UI concepts, so I thought a > thread on how to rethink applications to take advantage would be > appropriate. > > One thing I've noticed in Paint is that an Edit toolbar is far less > useful than an Edit menu. You want to copy something - you go to

Re: Status of SVG rendering on the XO

2007-12-20 Thread Eben Eliason
On Dec 20, 2007 3:31 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 20, 2007 9:30 PM, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've seen some examples of this working, though none of them complex > > enough to really test performance. The core pro

Re: Status of SVG rendering on the XO

2007-12-20 Thread Eben Eliason
I've seen some examples of this working, though none of them complex enough to really test performance. The core problem when I used it was that the coordinate system for the mouse events didn't map correctly to the display, due to the browsers scaling algorithm. I'm not sure in what timeframe tha

Re: Voice IM project proposal

2007-12-12 Thread Eben Eliason
As I recall, the possibility of creating a push to talk service that could be used within any activity (provided by default as part of the activity class itself) was discussed not too long ago as well. I think this may be a smart option, especially since a push-to-talk activity would be visually p

Re: #5348 NORM Future : etoys overwrites existing journal entries

2007-12-06 Thread Eben Eliason
> So the difference would be that a media viewer that is allowed to "open" a > file must only retain references to the original media instead of copying? > Until very recently, references from one datastore object (the saved > activity state) to other objects (the media) was dismissed as unnece

Re: lots of scrolling in activities-list

2007-12-05 Thread Eben Eliason
We have a completely new approach to this on the table, which will be discussed and hopefully placed into the roadmap soon. Once we've polished the ideas and the mockups I'm sure they will be available for everyone to provide feedback on. It won't be a start menu, though; I promise. ;-) - Eben

Re: Active activities as Widgets

2007-11-30 Thread Eben Eliason
> >> This, I do believe is probably a fantastic thing to work on. What we > >> really need in cases like this is, as you say, a chat widget that is > >> based on the chat activity, having the same look, feel, options, etc. > >> Just as we have an Abiword widget for text which can be used anywhere

Re: Active activities as Widgets

2007-11-30 Thread Eben Eliason
> I would like to see the OLPC retain its non-windowed presentation style. > I have run into people that have no idea how many windows are running. > When they do not see the browser, they simply start another one, > ignoring Z order and minimized applications. Don't laugh, my wife and I > are the

Re: Active activities as Widgets

2007-11-30 Thread Eben Eliason
> > There are some activities where the chat is an integral part of the > > participants' experience. In my case, chatter during the Go game may be > > nonexistent to multiple lines of interactive tutorial per move to > > razzing and praise from any of the observers. This is why I plan to have > >

Re: Active activities as Widgets

2007-11-29 Thread Eben Eliason
> >>> Sugar will gain a feature called overlay chat, once we've got higher > >>> priority collaboration stuff completed, which will automagically add > >>> chat functionality to any (sugarised, python) activity. > >>> > >> I thought this was intended to be a feature similar to the frame (and > >> a

Re: Consistent sound

2007-11-19 Thread Eben Eliason
I, too, find this a very nice idea. Not only does it encourage culturally appropriate sounds, but it simply encourages context appropriate sounds in general. Right now there is a lack of audible feedback in a number of the games on the system, and said feedback would really enhance the experience

Re: StopWatch activity

2007-11-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Nov 14, 2007 4:07 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:36:08PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: > > > We still intend to incorporate that - the overhead of launching an > > activity is silly. > > More precision would make this partic

Re: StopWatch activity

2007-11-14 Thread Eben Eliason
> To my prejudice, it sounds like a bad idea. > > If you have to do some operations on the laptop and wait many > seconds just to check the current time, that sounds bad, too. The clock activity is wholly independent in my perspective from having a clock in Sugar. We still intend to incorpora

Re: StopWatch activity

2007-11-14 Thread Eben Eliason
I thought about this a bit more, and think that there may be a valid split between what might be called Clock and Time (currently StopWatch) activities. Clock's primary purpose would be to display a large clock. It would likely have digital and analog modes, but could probably choose one or the o

Re: StopWatch activity

2007-11-14 Thread Eben Eliason
> Is there a reason you haven't made the clock and the stopwatch different > functions for a single activity? I second that. I think these could be integrated - Eben > Regards, > Mako > > -- > Benjamin Mako Hill > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mako.cc/ > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version:

Re: when an xo loses connection, how long does it take to disappear from other's neighbor view?

2007-11-07 Thread Eben Eliason
> > 1. We need to fix the timeout for icons to disappear. Can we try Guillaume's > > patch? > > I hope so. I have a tarball with the patch, but I'm still waiting for > Update.1 approval (it's unclear whether I can build RPMs for Joyride > before I get Update.1 approval or not). If you're at 1CC, co

Re: Conversion to Gray Scale May Not Be Trivial how to make a grayscale image?

2007-11-02 Thread Eben Eliason
D]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On 11/2/07, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 2, 2007, at 3:16 , Albert Cahalan wrote: > > > > > > > Eben Eliason writes: > > > > > > > >> Roughly speakin

All activities should switch to a primary toolbar tab

2007-10-12 Thread Eben Eliason
Though this isn't in the guidelines formally yet, we are strongly recommending that activities switch to a "primary" tab when launched. For instance, Write should focus the "Text" toolbar; Paint should focus the "Tools" toolbar; Record should focus the "Photo" toolbar; etc. In other words, whateve

Re: Bridging eSpeak and Read activity

2007-10-12 Thread Eben Eliason
If we're going to go that far, why don't we make eSpeak a service, instead of an activity? The kid could select text anywhere - Read, Browse, Chat, etc - and select "Speak text" from the contextual menu. The highlighting is then provided by the child directly, and we gain the ability to span the e

Urgent: Need icons from some 3rd party activities

2007-10-11 Thread Eben Eliason
Pentagram is in need of a few activity icons for the xogiving.org microsite. Would the developers of the following activities please attach the corresponding activity icons to this thread? Thanks! Block Party Calculate News Reader Watch & LIsten Turtle Art Additionally, if any of you are unsati

Re: Alternative neighborhood in mesh networks

2007-10-10 Thread Eben Eliason
This is really awesome. Would you have opposition to later repurposing the code as part of the Sugar system? We've had plans for providing several view options for the Neighborhood view, this being one of the important ones. While I'm not sure how well it fits into the activity model, this would

Re: Keyboard Shortcuts

2007-10-01 Thread Eben Eliason
Sorry, forgot to include the link: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Keyboard_Shortcuts On 10/1/07, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've started a new page on the wiki for documenting standard and > agreed upon keyboard shortcuts, both for Sugar and for use within > vario

Keyboard Shortcuts

2007-10-01 Thread Eben Eliason
I've started a new page on the wiki for documenting standard and agreed upon keyboard shortcuts, both for Sugar and for use within various activities. It's mostly empty right now. I'll try to fill in some of the gaps, but I'd be grateful to have developers contribute to it as well. We should com

Re: #3631 HIGH First D: Need fullscreen mode

2007-09-26 Thread Eben Eliason
Erik - You have implemented this floating button in Record. Do you have insight into how this would be done and/or how hard it would be to do in this context? Thanks! - Eben On 9/26/07, Zarro Boogs per Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > #3631: Need fullscreen mode > --

Re: Dialog when stopping activity

2007-09-25 Thread Eben Eliason
Well, sort of. Generally speaking, it's OK to show confirmation dialogs when there are ongoing processes (downloads, video compression, export operations, etc.) which will be interrupted/terminated by stopping the activity. It's possible there will be other appropriate times as well, regarding sy

Re: #3631 HIGH First D: Need fullscreen mode

2007-09-24 Thread Eben Eliason
ECTED]> wrote: > Maybe Alt-Enter comes from Windows, I'm not sure. It's used by > Parallels, too (or did I configure it that way?) > > Anyway ... "full-screen" seems odd anyway because it just toggles the > toolbar. How about Ctrl-T then? > > > - Bert - >

Re: #3631 HIGH First D: Need fullscreen mode

2007-09-24 Thread Eben Eliason
Well, some of our principles for keyboard shortcuts have been 1) treating CTRL-K as a primary shortcut for action A and ALT-K as a variation on that same action and 2) we've been trying to adhere to the (generally similar) shortcut paradigms present in Linux and OSX when possible. I'm not as famil

Re: #3655 (Specify the order of the Activity taskbar icons)

2007-09-20 Thread Eben Eliason
> Specifically, the first 6 icons from the left should be (in order): > Chat, Browse, Write, Record, Paint, TamtamJam? > > After that: > Turtle Art, eToys, Pippy, Calculator, Measure, TamTamEdit?, SynthLab?, > Memorize, Blockparty, and Connect4. > - > > It appears to me that this ordering pu

Re: #3431 HIGH Trial-3: Need to be able to share objects in the mesh, not just activities

2007-09-14 Thread Eben Eliason
SJ, I think that the "Meshboard" of which you speak embodies most of our goals for bulletin boards as designed early on. We may need to think through some more details, but this is certainly the goal if we can manage it. Things would probably time out, and they might time out based on popularity

Re: Pippy and Calculate - Evolution Solution

2007-09-10 Thread Eben Eliason
> > Errors ought to be detected as typed, with the text changing > > color at the point where syntax is violated. So this... > > > > 7+5-9*4)-5 > > > > ...would be highlighted starting from the ')' character. > > > This sounds like a good idea, but I think it could be a little tricky > sometimes, s

Re: sugar-update: your friendly neighborhood auto-installation script

2007-09-01 Thread Eben Eliason
A new version is available on the wiki. Here is a summary of changes: - Changed -o overwrite to -c clean, having the same behavior - Replaced -v verbose with -q quiet, so progress output is on by default - Implemented progress updates for downloads I also reorganized some of the code, so please

Re: Unable to update my machine

2007-08-30 Thread Eben Eliason
You may wish to try the python script that I recently added to the autoreinstallation page. It's been working consistently for me here. The following should give you a completely clean auto-installation image of the latest development build: python sugar-update.py -vo /path/to/usbdrive - Eben

Re: sugar-update: your friendly neighborhood auto-installation script

2007-08-29 Thread Eben Eliason
d idea. Thanks! - Eben On 8/29/07, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just noticed the force.os downgrade option as described on the wiki, > so I added support for downgrades to the script. If the boot > directory already contains a newer build than the one specified, the &

Re: sugar-update: your friendly neighborhood auto-installation script

2007-08-29 Thread Eben Eliason
ove a force.os file if present and the build specified is newer than that present in boot. I also added the -d option which will force a downgrade image regardless of build number. - Eben On 8/29/07, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/29/07, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: sugar-update: your friendly neighborhood auto-installation script

2007-08-29 Thread Eben Eliason
rsion, so upgrading OS without upgrading firmware > is often a mistake. Good idea. I've flipped the meaning of the flag in the script at my end, and changed the documentation in the wiki to match. - Eben """ sugar-update.py Created by Eben Eliason on 2007-08-28. Please feel

Re: sugar-update: your friendly neighborhood auto-installation script

2007-08-29 Thread Eben Eliason
e_latest_image_.28automatically.29 - Eben On 8/29/07, Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Indeed, I just looked up the module for managing zip files a few hours > ago. I've also since updated the script to have a -f flag for > updating to the latest firmware, but it's

Re: sugar-update: your friendly neighborhood auto-installation script

2007-08-29 Thread Eben Eliason
Indeed, I just looked up the module for managing zip files a few hours ago. I've also since updated the script to have a -f flag for updating to the latest firmware, but it's not available yet. The latest version will be on the wiki soon (I'm having upload troubles); a section of the autoreinstal

sugar-update: your friendly neighborhood auto-installation script

2007-08-28 Thread Eben Eliason
it is soon outdated by some fancy built-in auto-update jazz. - Eben """ sugar-update.py Created by Eben Eliason on 2007-08-28. Please feel free to modify, extend, and redistribute this script """ import sys import os import getopt impor

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