Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-10 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 7:08 AM, James Cameron wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:31:39AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 07:18:49PM -0500, Kevin Gordon Gmail wrote: >> > Tp link set as 3g router mode, with usb Sierra wireless usb modem, >> > set to channel 11, 80211g only,

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-10 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:31:39AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 07:18:49PM -0500, Kevin Gordon Gmail wrote: > > Tp link set as 3g router mode, with usb Sierra wireless usb modem, > > set to channel 11, 80211g only, wpa2 pal security. Running stock > > f/w. > > Terry found

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 07:18:49PM -0500, Kevin Gordon Gmail wrote: > Tp link set as 3g router mode, with usb Sierra wireless usb modem, > set to channel 11, 80211g only, wpa2 pal security. Running stock > f/w. Terry found that channel 1 was the most afflicted. I suspect, but I haven't checked, t

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread Kevin Gordon Gmail
teers -- who help respond to help AT laptop.org; Unleash Kids! Subject: Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's Hi KevinAre you saying that you can switch on your twelve XO-1s and that they will automatically connect to a remembered AP?Or did you

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread T Gillett
>> Sent from my currently functioning gadget >> Original Message >> From: James Cameron >> Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 18:23 >> To: T Gillett >> Cc: server-devel; Bernie Innocenti; Adam Holt; Devel's in the Details; >> xsce-devel; Community Suppo

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread Kevin Gordon Gmail
Holt; Devel's in the Details; xsce-devel; Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help AT laptop.org; Unleash Kids! Subject: Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 08:36:15AM +1000, T Gillett wrote

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread T Gillett
in the Details; > xsce-devel; Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help AT > laptop.org; Unleash Kids! > Subject: Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most > Wifi AP's > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 08:36:15AM +1000, T Gillett

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 06:33:52PM -0500, Kevin Gordon Gmail wrote: > Once the xo-1 ‎is successfully attached to an AP, does the mesh > beaconing on those three channels on that box then potentially stop? No. This can be proven using a wireless device with monitor mode, tcpdump, and wireshark. T

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread Kevin Gordon Gmail
devel; Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help AT laptop.org; Unleash Kids! Subject: Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 08:36:15AM +1000, T Gillett wrote: > Even when using the routers that '

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 08:36:15AM +1000, T Gillett wrote: > Even when using the routers that 'Passed' our initial ten XO-1 test, > I can see that the XO monitoring the beacon times is being disturbed > by the presence of even a single XO-1 running mesh. Yes, same here. > As soon as this XO boots

Re: [XSCE] Re: [support-gang] [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread T Gillett
, 2014 4:51 PM > To: T Gillett > Cc: xsce-devel ; Unleash Kids! ; Devel's in the Details ; server-devel ; > Bernie Innocenti ; Community Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help > ATlaptop.org > Subject: Re: [support-gang] [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't r

Re: [support-gang] [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread Tim Moody
unity Support Volunteers -- who help respond to help ATlaptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 09:20:05PM +1000, T Gillett wrote: I guess the key point is that we have to make change

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread T Gillett
I did a little more testing on this. Even when using the routers that 'Passed' our initial ten XO-1 test, I can see that the XO monitoring the beacon times is being disturbed by the presence of even a single XO-1 running mesh. As soon as this XO boots, the beacon times blow out on the monitoring

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-09 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 09:20:05PM +1000, T Gillett wrote: > I guess the key point is that we have to make changes to the XO-1 > rather than the routers :-] I don't know that yet, sorry. While the evidence so far does not incriminate the routers, there are some routers that have worked fine, and

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-08 Thread T Gillett
I guess the key point is that we have to make changes to the XO-1 rather than the routers :-] On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:03 PM, James Cameron wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 06:33:52PM +1000, T Gillett wrote: > > A more general solution will require a greater understanding of the > > XO-1 mesh

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-08 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 06:33:52PM +1000, T Gillett wrote: > A more general solution will require a greater understanding of the > XO-1 mesh facility and some modification of it to make it more > 'sociable'. No, I think we should instead figure out why the active scan by the kernel breaks when a p

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-08 Thread T Gillett
Hi All It does appear (caveat: based on some _limited_ testing I have done today) that switching off the XO-1 mesh networking will allow the XOs to connect reliably to APs. We can see that the 'last beacon' times immediately return to normal when mesh is disabled on all the XOs. The mesh operat

Re: [UKids] "XO-1 classrooms" don't reliably connect to many/most Wifi AP's

2014-02-07 Thread Lionel Laské
Very interesting. Thanks to share and thanks to Terry for this detailed report. Lionel. 2014-02-07 16:10 GMT+01:00 Adam Holt : > *[Terry Gillett summarizes his weeks of testing, **with this very > revealing report below. That's tgill...@gmail.com of > the Village Telco project