Re (2): [Sugar-devel] Community OS 14.1.0 Version 2

2015-03-05 Thread peter
From: Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 09:25:52 -0500 ... re-build the XO-1 image with the additional SD card image tonight. Just for interest, the complete FPGA based Oberon system is said to compile in under 10 s.

Re: SD Sugar boot for XO-1

2014-05-14 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:57:31AM +, tkk...@nurturingasia.com wrote: Is there a complete step by setp quick instruction that I can create a SD card that will boot Sugar for XO-1 machines? I am happy SD card deployment running on XO 1.75 and felt maybe I could do the same for the older

Re: SD Sugar boot for XO-1

2014-05-14 Thread James Cameron
Why exclude devel@? Re-added. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:30:53PM -0400, Nathan C. Riddle wrote: TK, I have tried to follow the thread on Boot Menu on XO. Have you gone beyond the boot int:x and boot ext:x to use internal or external SD ? Open Firmware will boot from any media present; it

Re: [Sur] [Sugar-devel] Introducing SimpleActivity / Introduciendo SimpleActivity

2013-12-03 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/11/25 Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org: Hi, now the StopButton is added automatically you don't have to call self.add_stopbutton anymore :) Great, I will give it a try in Browse. -- .. manuq .. ___ Devel mailing list

Re: [Sur] [Sugar-devel] Introducing SimpleActivity / Introduciendo SimpleActivity

2013-11-25 Thread Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez
Hi, now the StopButton is added automatically you don't have to call self.add_stopbutton anymore :) Regards, aguz 2013/11/25 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org 2013/11/24 Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org: Manu, I just added the __init__.py file. About the StopButton, I added

Re: [Sur] [Sugar-devel] Introducing SimpleActivity / Introduciendo SimpleActivity

2013-11-24 Thread Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez
Manu, I just added the __init__.py file. About the StopButton, I added the function add_stopbutton in order to be called when the activity developer finish its toolbar, because SimpleActivity can't know where it's ready, I think the only way to do this is when the user adds any item to the

Re: Re: Sugar 0.100.0 (stable)

2013-11-01 Thread Lionel Laské
Hi James, Sure ! Thanks for your answer, I've replied to the wrong list :-) Lionel. Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 22:47:30 +1100 From: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org To: devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: Sugar 0.100.0 (stable) Message-ID: 20131101114730.gb14...@us.netrek.org Content-Type

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Android via HTML5

2013-09-19 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 4:54 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.comwrote: One of the things that makes Sugar the ideal learning platform for children (and youth) is the

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Android via HTML5

2013-09-16 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 7:51 AM, David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: One of the

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Android via HTML5

2013-09-13 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: One of the things that makes Sugar the ideal learning platform for children (and youth) is the

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Android via HTML5

2013-09-13 Thread Manuel Quiñones
2013/9/13 David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com: On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: One of the things that makes Sugar the

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Android via HTML5

2013-09-13 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote: 2013/9/13 David Farning dfarn...@activitycentral.com: On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Caryl

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Android via HTML5

2013-09-12 Thread John Watlington
On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: One of the things that makes Sugar the ideal learning platform for children (and youth) is the wonderful compatibility of so many of the Activities ... both from

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Android via HTML5

2013-09-12 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:54 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On Sep 10, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: One of the things that makes Sugar the ideal learning platform for children (and youth) is the

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Android via HTML5

2013-09-11 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi... I have also been waiting patiently (well, not really very patiently) for some news about Sugar coming to Android. So far, I have heard nothing

Re: [IAEP] Sugar on Android via HTML5

2013-09-10 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi... I have also been waiting patiently (well, not really very patiently) for some news about Sugar coming to Android. So far, I have heard nothing new. So I guess it isn't too late to throw my educator's opinion into

Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)

2012-12-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:19 AM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell This looks like the nearest to what I hope to achieve - the same experience of the XO on a hand-held device especially

Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)

2012-12-11 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I think Sugar could be something like an alternative gui shell similar cynogen http://www.cyanogenmod.org/ On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:24 AM, RJV jv.ravichand...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, We are planning to port Sugar on Android and are faced with these options: 1. Sugar as an application on

Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)

2012-12-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Rajiv, your plan seems to have good goals, but is missing some understanding of what you can and cannot do. You cannot run Sugar (a Python-based window manager, based on traditional Linux sw stack) on the Android stack. Way too different. To reach your goals, however, you could try something

Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)

2012-12-11 Thread RJV
Thanks, Martin. Btw, where did you deduce the name Rajiv from? :) RJv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote: Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell -- Regards, *Ravichandran J.V.*

Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)

2012-12-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
I'm sorry! Looks like I misread your name. A faux pass typical of borderline autistic people -- get all the technical details clearly, mess up the other person's name. Hope the technical part was useful. No offense intended. cheers, martin On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM, RJV

Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)

2012-12-11 Thread RJV
Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that has the main features of Sugar shell This looks like the nearest to what I hope to achieve - the same experience of the XO on a hand-held device especially the Ad-Hoc networking. Jv On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Martin

Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-23 Thread forster
USB flash drive On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 06:08:26PM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: I repeated these tests Thanks! XO-1.75 and XO-4 OS14 Huawei E160E modem Imation 8GB memory stick Is this actually a Memory Stick or do you mean a USB flash drive?

Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-23 Thread RJV
As Jerry mentioned, the trick is to uncheck Power Management option under the Power options of the laptop. Otherwise, the scenarios outlined by Ajay can be reproduced. It seems the power supply to the USB ports do make a difference. Regards, Ravichandran J.V. On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 1:52 PM,

Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-23 Thread James Cameron
That's not what Ajay said here: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2012-November/036409.html Ajay, can you confirm in the above posting that all power management was disabled? I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if power managament was enabled, but I see that as a

Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-23 Thread RJV
Hi James, I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if power managament was enabled, The frame does work with the Power Management option unchecked. What does the frame icon for the modem mean? Jv On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:51 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-23 Thread forster
Hi James, I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if power managament was enabled, The frame does work with the Power Management option unchecked. What does the frame icon for the modem mean? see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Gsm_share_state0.png which shows

Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-23 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:14:41AM +0530, RJV wrote: Hi James, I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if power managament was enabled, The frame does work with the Power Management option unchecked. What does the frame icon for the modem mean?

Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-23 Thread RJV
Thanks, James/Tony. But that works, too, fine. The mobile icon plus the frame presence is ok. Another thing, though, that I have noticed is, With the 3G USB stick in, after Disconnec-ting and Remove-ing (with PM off) when I select Shut Down, it does not shut down normally. I have to Power off

Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-23 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:31:16AM +0530, RJV wrote: Thanks, James/Tony. But that works, too, fine. The mobile icon plus the frame presence is ok. So you have tried but cannot reproduce the problem identified by Ajay, where the icon does not appear if (a) a USB flash drive is present at boot,

Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-23 Thread RJV
(I don't know what 3.1 means). Linux version. I hope the terminology is correct! I will ask Ajay to do that (raise a ticket) on 13.1 build 14. I shall be meeting or talking with Ajay today. I will also check out if the Shut Down problem happens in Ajay's XO. Regards, Jv On Sat, Nov 24, 2012

Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-23 Thread Ajay Garg
Hi all. * I tested on XO-1.75 with os14; the frame appeared fine (booting-up with the USB-flash drive, and USB-modem inserted) !!! * Pulling off my hair, I re-tested on XO-1.75 with os11 (booting-up with the USB-flash drive, and USB-modem inserted) ; thankfully, the frame-icon

Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-23 Thread James Cameron
Thanks, I have closed #12340 with a brief note. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-22 Thread forster
I repeated these tests XO-1.75 and XO-4 OS14 Huawei E160E modem Imation 8GB memory stick I was unable to replicate the fault described by Ajay, the modem appeared in the frame, both plugged in after boot and before boot but for both laptops In the first test, memory stick and modem plugged in

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-22 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 06:08:26PM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: I repeated these tests Thanks! XO-1.75 and XO-4 OS14 Huawei E160E modem Imation 8GB memory stick Is this actually a Memory Stick or do you mean a USB flash drive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick Ajay said

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread forster
Ajay You do not say which OS you are using or whether its Sugar or Gnome desktop. For most of 13.1.0 the modem dongle has not been appearing in the Sugar frame. It was fixed at OS11 I think but I have not tested it a lot to see if its always there in the frame. Tony I have heard from other

Re: [ASLO] [Sugar-devel] Test in Sugar 0.96.1

2012-05-23 Thread Rafael Ortiz
:59:52 -0300 From: gonz...@laptop.org To: alan...@hotmail.com CC: sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; olpc...@lists.laptop.org; a...@lists.sugarlabs.org; walter.ben...@gmail.com; satel...@bendbroadband.com; devel@lists.laptop.org; dee...@laptop.org.au Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Test in Sugar 0.96.1

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch: Mobile dongles

2012-03-28 Thread forster
Paul Keeping the dongle powered also happens with automatic power management on the 1.75 (ie 15 seconds with no input). Same problem though, keyboard or trackpad input to wake up powers down the dongle. It takes 35 seconds for the dongle to appear in the frame, then user input is required,

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch: Mobile dongles

2012-03-27 Thread forster
Paul Tried this with a XO-1.75 and a XO-1.5 both running OS31 Tried a Huawei mobile dongle, a memory stick and a mouse The only case where a USB device remains powered during sleep is the mobile dongle on the 1.75 Tony fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Thanks I have noticed another

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] butiá robot challenges in sumo.uy event

2012-02-11 Thread Andres Aguirre
http://vimeo.com/33399708 Nice video of the sumo.uy 2011 event where childrens participated using olpc/sugar in sumo and in butia challenges. regards andres On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Steve Thomas sthom...@gosargon.com wrote: This is a great use of the XO.  So for comparison, how much

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] wiki.sugarlabs has crashed

2011-11-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 6:15 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Fixed it by resetting my router You crashed the internet! Thanks for resetting your router. Now it works for me too. :-) m --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC  - ask interesting

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] wiki.sugarlabs has crashed

2011-11-25 Thread forster
Sorry Problem was at my end Fixed it by resetting my router I have had this before, but a long time ago, for some reason Sugar and my Dlink router can mess up the DNS lookup and give the wrong IP address On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:47 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Can somebody please

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-23 Thread forster
fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Thanks Paul thanks for testing! The logic appears to be buggy, see #11487: XO-1.75 OS12 backlight is off when you come back inside okay, more testing is needed. as you noted, it's quite hard to tell when it's on and off. i'll see if i can

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control

2011-11-22 Thread forster
Thanks Paul The logic appears to be buggy, see #11487: XO-1.75 OS12 backlight is off when you come back inside As it stands, neither the monochrome nor colour modes are OK in full sunlight. The colour mode causes a significant loss of resolution for reading small black text and even more

RE: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar Updater

2011-11-20 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
updated applications in ASLO that will not run on older versions of Sugar I think that with all the information that has each activity in ASLO, the developerscan make a better updater... Each activity say: I can work on Sugar xx to xy If the XO is in the range of xx, xy this activity can be

RE: [IAEP] Sugar tutorial video from Peru - Updater

2011-11-19 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
Hi, Watching the video, I remembered a problem that happens often in multiple versions of Sugar (I have not tried in Sugar 0.94.2) The video XO has several activities outdated ..For example: Jukebox - Version: 19 - Latest: 23Speak - Version: 11 - Latest 34Browse - Version: 108 - Latest:

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] butiá robot challenges in sumo.uy event

2011-09-23 Thread Andres Aguirre
Thank you Steve, that's exactly the main idea behind the butiá project: extend the actuation and sensorial capabilities of the XO and reuse the software and hardware present in it in order to transform the XO in a mobile low cost robot. And that's one of the important differences with a commercial

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] butiá robot challenges in sumo.uy event

2011-09-22 Thread Steve Thomas
This is a great use of the XO. So for comparison, how much would it cost for an arduino, with video camera, color display, speakers, speech to text capabilites, wireless internet? Plus you get programming environments like Scratch, Etoys and Turtle Art. My guess an XO would win and it does so

Re: [Sur] Sugar Commander

2011-07-25 Thread nanonano
/Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: I just want to say: I agree... / No sé quien es el que escribió el mensaje original, pero estoy de acuerdo en un 500% en esos comenatrios acerca del Journal. Paolo Benini Montevideo

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] Pulse Sensor: an Open Source Heart-rate Sensor that Rocks by Yury Gitman ? Kickstarter

2011-07-20 Thread forster
Do you know what kind of voltage that mic input can handle? +/5 VDC? The XO1 is protected at the input by a 5V zener diode. The allowable input is -0.5V to 5V. Inputs outside this range will cause excessive current and damage. Even a single 1.5V battery can cause damage if connected reverse

Re: Fwd: [Sugar-devel] HW test in background?

2011-07-07 Thread James Cameron
No, the OpenFirmware test output is not logged in the field. It can be captured by a serial adapter. The olpc-runin-tests are available for XO-1.5 and later, and with version 0.11.3 can be run in a five minute mode (touch /runin/quick), but the test is designed to stress the system and would

Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] Interesting USB-pluggable robots, controller boards, and sensors

2011-03-04 Thread forster
Turtle Art Arduino, at least when I last ran it, requires Firmata software in the Arduino. So the Arduino is acting as a dumb I/O expansion board and is not being programmed as an autonomous robot. The user is programming in TurtleArt. I used the Arduino Duemilanove but I don't think the

Re: Harvesting Sugar Trees.

2011-02-08 Thread John Gilmore
Over time, most embedded system developers have pushed their work upstream. This happened gradually as system developers learned that it was more expensive to maintain their customizations locally then to work with upstream. The tipping point was often found as system developers tried to

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs UN Online Volunteering: Potential source of translators others?

2010-10-13 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: Sugar Labs appears to be eligible to part of the United Nations Online Volunteering[1]. There is a pool of about 200,000 registered volunteers, I'm not sure how many are software developers - most projects are

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANN] DrGeo 10.08

2010-09-03 Thread Cherry Withers
Hi Hilaire, This is a great addition! BTW, some of Squeakland's education team members acquired XO 1.5s through OLPC's contributor's program to do user testing for Etoys 4.1. Dr. Geo is included in our test plan. The page for the test team: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/SqueaklandTesters

Re: Re: Sugar and NetworkManager

2010-08-29 Thread forster
Thanks Quozl, but As I understand it, right click/disconnect wont stop it connecting again and discard network history forgets everything? Theres no easy way to forget one connection? Tony On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 08:21:30AM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Can I suggest a related issue

Re: Re: Sugar and NetworkManager

2010-08-29 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:47:18PM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: As I understand it, right click/disconnect wont stop it connecting again Yes. I would prefer to see right-click forget, or remove as favourite. and discard network history forgets everything? Well, it discards the

Re: ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-26 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, TBH I don't know what changed between F-12 and F-13. It wasn't the compile flag changes as I checked them so I'm wondering wondering why its suddenly a problem. gcc changed; it started emitting NOPL instructions under i686. - Chris. -- Chris Ball c...@laptop.org One Laptop

Re: ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-25 Thread Raul Gutierrez Segales
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 12:25 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Hello everyone, we've just started a new development cycle aimed at providing Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1. Our focus is stability and usability for deployments, although we're also attempting to merge a couple of low-risk features

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs Accepted as GSoC 2010 Organisation

2010-03-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 21:39, Tim McNamara paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz wrote: Chris - You must have known something! Sugar Labs is part of the fold. [1] Thanks all for helping me along. Now the real fun starts :) Congratulations and good luck! Tomeu Tim @timClicks [1] 

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is a very big deal for us. We use a local variant of the F11-XO1 images by Stephen Parrish,

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 10:46 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is a very big deal for us.

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better quality than build 801, provided you disable automatic power management. Are all activities working, including collaboration? In Gnome, can you

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Forgot to answer a paragraph: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 12:07 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: If you ask me: our recent F11-XO1 builds have reached equal or better quality than build 801, provided you disable automatic

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs GSoC 2010 Application In

2010-03-12 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Tim, Sugar Labs application for Google Summer of Code 2010 has been accepted. Wow, that was quick. Many congrats and thanks! I'm not sure exactly on the politics of the situation, but my personal feeling is that we should be quite encouraging of supporting OLPC projects.

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs GSoC 2010 Application In

2010-03-12 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Sugar Labs application for Google Summer of Code 2010 has been accepted. Wow, that was quick. Many congrats and thanks! Oops -- I assumed this meant that the application had been reviewed and SL is accepted into GSOC, whereas the intended meaning was just that the application

Re: Newer sugar package?

2009-11-10 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 18:41 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: The Sugar rpm on our F11 images is 0.84.5 (and updates/updates-testing doesn't seem to carry anything newer). SL has in the interim released 0.84.6 with some bugfixes and translation. Additionally there are several unreleased bugfixen

Re: Newer sugar package?

2009-11-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: I'll do a 0.84.7 tomorrow and push to F11. Thanks for your help with these issues! Great! You might want to include a small cleanup patch I made (and tested!) on top of the SL#1098 fix, as seen in

Re: [IAEP] sugar live cd for windows

2009-10-17 Thread Tim McNamara
2009/10/17 Kevin Cole dc.l...@gmail.com On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 13:59, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.org wrote: Dear all, Wish to ask you for pointers to improve the performance of SocialCalc activity while running it on Sugar Live CD for Windows. SocialCalc works very well on the native

Re: [IAEP] sugar live cd for windows

2009-10-17 Thread Kevin Cole
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:53, Kevin Cole dc.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 13:59, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.org wrote: Dear all, Wish to ask you for pointers to improve the performance of SocialCalc activity while running it on Sugar Live CD for Windows. SocialCalc works

Re: [IAEP] sugar live cd for windows

2009-10-16 Thread Kevin Cole
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 13:59, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.org wrote: Dear all, Wish to ask you for pointers to improve the performance of SocialCalc activity while running it on Sugar Live CD for Windows. SocialCalc works very well on the native installation of Sugar. Please suggest. Hi, I

Re: [IAEP] sugar live cd for windows

2009-10-16 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:53:03AM -0400, Kevin Cole wrote: A Live CD doesn't run on anything, generally speaking. It implies a CD which you boot the entire operating system from. To the best of my knowledge there are no Live Windows Sugar CD's. This users' perspective is not unusual ... if

Re: [IAEP] sugar live cd for windows

2009-10-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 18:59, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.org wrote: Dear all, Wish to ask you for pointers to improve the performance of SocialCalc activity while running it on Sugar Live CD for Windows. SocialCalc works very well on the native installation of Sugar. Please suggest. Hi

Re: [IAEP] sugar live cd for windows

2009-10-13 Thread Manusheel Gupta
Tomeu, My apologies for the typo. I meant Live CD for running Sugar on Windows. We downloaded it from ftp://www.rohrmoser-engineering.de/pub/XO-LiveCD/XO-LiveCD_090722.iso . Regards, Manu On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at

Re: [IAEP] sugar live cd for windows

2009-10-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 19:45, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.org wrote: Tomeu, My apologies for the typo. I meant Live CD for running Sugar on Windows. We downloaded it from ftp://www.rohrmoser-engineering.de/pub/XO-LiveCD/XO-LiveCD_090722.iso . I confess not having tried it out, but AFAIK

Re: [IAEP] sugar live cd for windows

2009-10-13 Thread Manusheel Gupta
Tomeu, Thank you for the pointer. Yes, we have tried running SocialCalc on Sugar with SoaS as the Sugar distribution. Works pretty well. We'll look into the other distributions as recommended. Regards, Manu On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue,

Re: [IAEP] sugar live cd for windows

2009-10-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 20:13, Manusheel Gupta m...@laptop.org wrote: Tomeu, Thank you for the pointer. Yes, we have tried running SocialCalc on Sugar with SoaS as the Sugar distribution. Works pretty well. We'll look into the other distributions as recommended. Ok, so if performance is

Re: Problems. Sugar environment

2009-07-03 Thread Hal Murray
hackerboymaya...@gmail.com said: First, about installing activities, i can't connect to internet on my xo wirelessly thanks to indian govt. ... What is the Indian govt doing to keep you from using WiFi? I did a quick search and didn't find anything about WiFi not working in India. I stopped

Re: Problems. Sugar environment

2009-07-02 Thread John Watlington
On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Abhishek Indoria wrote: Hi, I was wondering if I could get some help, First, about installing activities, i can't connect to internet on my xo wirelessly thanks to indian govt. Where can i find activities to download? You can download the activities from

Re: [Testing] [Sugar-devel] FoodForce II Beta Release

2009-05-10 Thread Manusheel Gupta
Robert, Not sure, why this is happening at your local machine. I don't find this message at my end. I have copied your message to our web team, who will look into this at the earliest. Thank you. Manu On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Robert Braxton bobrax...@msn.com wrote: The website link

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-24 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: I meant it should have been optional, but if we switch to using the Closes: header in the body, where we have no size constraints, then we could has well use the prefix consistently. One

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Well, it's customary to introduce an additional state where the bug is fixed in the developer's intentions, but not yet QA'd: NEW - ASSIGNED - FIXED - CLOSED Bernie, 99% of my commits are working on it, mate ;-)

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-23 Thread Simon Schampijer
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Some thoughts: - Because the commit message summary appears in the shortlog, it should be kept below 74 characters to avoid ugly wrapping. - Given the above, the word Closes: steals

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 13:22, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Some thoughts: - Because the commit message summary appears in the shortlog, it should be kept below 74

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-23 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: - Given the above, the word Closes: steals precious characters, and is rather easy to deduce, therefore I'd opt it out. It really makes better sense to me to not squeeze bug hints into that first line at all, but instead include them in a later line of the

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: I meant it should have been optional, but if we switch to using the Closes: header in the body, where we have no size constraints, then we could has well use the prefix consistently. One important note WRT 'Closes'...

Re: [Localization] [sugar] [Proposal] .xot bundles for translations

2008-12-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Alexander Dupuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: via fink, but it's worth remembering that translation packages are not 'by definition noarch' - if the packages contain compiled gettext .mo files, those files may be machine-specific. As noted in

Re: [Localization] [sugar] [Proposal] .xot bundles for translations

2008-12-05 Thread Alexander Dupuy
Martin Langhoff wrote: Using rpm or apt Sugar would getting a bit further away from Windows (does cygwin carry either?) - a bit less so on OSX (where the fink toolchain will probably work alright, specially with translation pkgs, which are by definition noarch). I don't think that this

Re: [sugar] sugar 0.83 in joyride

2008-11-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 03:34:14PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Masters of Joyride, have built updated sugar rpms and they seem to work fine on last joyrides. Marco pointed me out in #sugar

Re: [sugar] sugar 0.83 in joyride

2008-11-06 Thread Daniel Drake
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon, The patch looks fine to me but I'm headed off to UY, so it would probably be best if someone else did the packaging. Done, and updated bug #8850 for when you get back. Daniel

Re: [sugar] sugar 0.83 in joyride

2008-11-05 Thread Simon Schampijer
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Masters of Joyride, have built updated sugar rpms and they seem to work fine on last joyrides. Marco pointed me out in #sugar that work fine may need some clarification. In fact, the following

Re: [Localization] [sugar] 9.1 proposal: Language learning on the XO.

2008-10-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Yamandu Ploskonka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please be _very_ careful on any thought about teaching English with the XO. It is a requirement in many countries. We don't have a choice. Enemies of the project everywhere are just waiting for a chance, any chance,

Re: [IAEP] sugar and the digital age (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 09.10.2008 um 19:10 schrieb elana langer: there is a very common feeling amongst policy makers and teacher that the XO doesn't really prepare students for the field of IT. There was a pilot project done in Mongolia that was run by the Japanese gov't where they introduced Linux to 4 towns.

Re: [IAEP] sugar and the digital age (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

2008-10-09 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 03:13:27AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 09.10.2008 um 19:10 schrieb elana langer: Essentially, in the minds of [teachers, parents, gov't officials], fluency on windows, being able to do power point presentations and surf the web is what being prepared means.

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i _really_ think we need to make the XO base _and_ sugar be a place that developers are comfortable living in. our needs aren't quite the same as a school kid's, but i think there's a much bigger overlap than we often think. with the

Re: OLPC Sugar-Fedora OS name (Carlos Nazareno)

2008-10-08 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going with XO Software Release 8.2.0 as the name of the next major release. I prefer OLPC release 8.2, until such time as OLPC either (a) makes hardware other than the XO, or (b) ships/supports software other than Sugar.

Re: OLPC Sugar-Fedora OS name

2008-10-08 Thread Sameer Verma
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Carlos Nazareno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all! Quick question: What's the official name/branding of the OS that ships with the OLPC? It's not Sugar as that's the GUI, and neither is it Fedora 9 anymore as it's been forked. Can we clarify this as I find

Re: [sugar] Sugar USB testing

2008-10-07 Thread pgf
marco pesenti gritti wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CCing the Sugar list. and adding devel. It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was seeming

Re: [Testing] [sugar] Signed candidate-765 and gg-765-2 builds available for testing.

2008-09-28 Thread Gary C Martin
OK, I can't really test the candidate-765 here. My B4 starts to secure boot (hold the X gamepad down), shows an SD card, then flashes what looks like a USB key in red a few times, then a wireless symbol, before telling me activation lease not found - no se encontrò elpermiso de activiòn -

Re: Another sugar rant

2008-08-06 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Eben Eliason wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Neil Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:08:33 am Alex Levenson wrote: Searching for X2o using the wiki search doesn't find it. It's Called X2o! it's url is http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X2o for heaven's sake!

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