Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-28 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Greg Smith gregsmit...@gmail.com wrote: The video decompression acceleration will be a huge value. The primary test is of course YouTube which I think means Flash flv. I would put that on an early test list and I hope there's no driver incompatible BS like with

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-28 Thread Peter Robinson
The video decompression acceleration will be a huge value. The primary test is of course YouTube which I think means Flash flv. I would put that on an early test list and I hope there's no driver incompatible BS like with Geode. The H. codecs could pay off in better video conferencing. A live

re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Ed, Wad, Chris et al, Awesome new hardware! That's one thing I loved about working at HW companies, the longer you survive the more hurdles you cross. IMHO 3D/2D is better than 2D only, if you can get it to work. I see bigger value in the video acceleration and input. The video capture is

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-21 Thread John Gilmore
I do not know. I tried to download the specification to their processor and gave up after seeing the massive registration and request forms required. It is clearly ridiculous. If somebody has the spec please put it onto the wiki, please.

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-20 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Watlington wrote: The enabling chipset is hot off the fab line, the VX855 [2]. This single chip provides ... a 3D graphics engine, an HD video decoder It's worth remembering that the only existing driver that supports either of these

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-20 Thread Peter Robinson
John Watlington wrote: The enabling chipset is hot off the fab line, the VX855 [2].  This single chip provides ... a 3D graphics engine, an HD video decoder It's worth remembering that the only existing driver that supports either of these features is a pure binary blob.  The Openchrome

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-20 Thread NoiseEHC
But this should improve with VIA now having employed Harald Welte of gnuviolations.org fame to help them move forward in the open source world. They have released their drivers and some manuals for their GPUs now. So no 3D just yet, but then that's not exactly a regression compared to the

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-19 Thread Tiago Marques
I was referring to flash capacity which will enable it to run the filesystem uncompressed. On gen1 you have no swap, scarce RAM and a compressed filesystem that the CPU must deal with when it needs to get something from the flash, which is mostly all the time IMHO. Best regards On Sat, Apr 18,

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-18 Thread NoiseEHC
Hi! I would like to ask these questions from OLPC staff: Does this also mean that people who already own XOs will find that new software is going to require a computer more powerful than they currently have? I thought that that was something that was going to be specifically avoided.

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-18 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Am 18.04.2009 um 08:16 schrieb NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu: Hi! I would like to ask these questions from OLPC staff: Does this also mean that people who already own XOs will find that new software is going to require a computer more powerful than they currently have? I thought that

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-18 Thread Gary C Martin
On 18 Apr 2009, at 14:23, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: Am 18.04.2009 um 08:16 schrieb NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu: Hi! I would like to ask these questions from OLPC staff: Does this also mean that people who already own XOs will find that new software is going to require a computer more

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-18 Thread Mark Bauer
This sounds great, the description makes it sound as if the plastic will be the same. Does this imply that a new mother board will fit into the existing plastic? Mark On Apr 17, 2009 Friday, at 2:24:21:0, John Watlington wrote: OLPC is excited to announce that a refresh of the XO-1

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-18 Thread Tiago Marques
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:24 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: OLPC is excited to announce that a refresh of the XO-1 laptop is in progress. In our continued effort to maintain a low price point, OLPC is refreshing the hardware to take advantage of the latest component

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-18 Thread Peter Robinson
The processor will be a VIA C7-M [1], with plans on using one whose clock ranges from 400 MHz (1.5 W) to 1GHz (5 W).  The clock may be throttled back automatically if necessary to meet thermal constraints. I'm hoping for a lot closer to 1GHz than 400MHz or it won't be much different than the

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 19:27, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:24 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: OLPC is excited to announce that a refresh of the XO-1 laptop is in progress.  In our continued effort to maintain a low price point, OLPC is

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-18 Thread Tiago Marques
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 19:27, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:24 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: OLPC is excited to announce that a refresh of the XO-1 laptop is in

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-18 Thread Bobby Powers
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 19:27, Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:24 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Bobby Powers bobbypow...@gmail.com wrote: the announcement said they were upping the RAM to 1GB DDR2. Exactly -- lots of questions. And between the added RAM, removing jffs2 (the external controller has something ftl-ish) and the streamlining of the storage

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[forwarding to IAEP and sugar-devel] Awesome news, now we don't need to worry about performance any more :p Good luck with the remaining work, Tomeu On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 21:24, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: OLPC is excited to announce that a refresh of the XO-1 laptop is in

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-17 Thread Neil Graham
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 15:24 -0400, John Watlington wrote: The design goal is to provide an overall update of the system within the same ID and external appearance. In order to maximize compatibility with existing software, this refresh will continue with an x86 processor, using a chipset

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-17 Thread Bobby Powers
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Neil Graham l...@screamingduck.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 15:24 -0400, John Watlington wrote: The design goal is to provide an overall update of the system within the same ID and external appearance. In order to maximize compatibility with existing