New joyride build 302

2007-11-17 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build302/ -Web-73.xo +Web-74.xo -olpc-library-common.noarch 0:1-2 +olpc-library-common.noarch 0:1-3 --- olpc-library-common.noarch 1-3 --- * fixed missing dependency on sugar --- Web-74 --- * #4720: new index page for browse (erikos) --

Re: some first impressions

2007-11-17 Thread Todd Kelsey
Arjun, I composed an email that got longer with ideas, and sj must be rubbing off on me because i stopped just short of clicking Send, and actually made a wiki page. What I have no idea of how to do is actually to link back from a wiki page to an email discussion for context. Regardless, you migh

Re: T-shirt ideas / feedback

2007-11-17 Thread Todd Kelsey
I confess that two months ago in the midst of an ear infection, fever and writing phd dissertation i registered some ridiculous domain names, such as oxpp, for one (whatever) per person. And it made me giggle because I realized it sounds like ox pee pee. (sorry if i've offended anyone). I really w

Re: wireless troubles, part 1: unencrypted AP

2007-11-17 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Hi Pascal, Have you tried a single click with a USB mouse (instead of the touchpad). There is an issue right now on the touch pad. -- Ricardo Carrano -- Original Message --- From: Pascal Scheffers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: devel@lists.laptop.org Sent: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:34:28 +0

Re: When will be CVS replaced by modern version control system?

2007-11-17 Thread Lennert Buytenhek
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:52:30AM +0100, Karel Zak wrote: > > And sure it is not very convenient for developpers, because > > developpers typically do not want to think about this stuff and would > > be happy to have their IDE directly plugged into production or user > > systems. But that's basic

Re: when an xo loses connection, how long does it take to disappear from other's neighbor view?

2007-11-17 Thread Giannis Galanis
Yes, i have seen this ticket in the past. To detect whether an XO is actually there or not, is a simple task to accomplish, and I am currently working on a simple script that will give a list of the properly connected XOs, along with the temporarily disconnected. It is a very useful idea to displa

Re: update script

2007-11-17 Thread Andres Salomon
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:59:54 -0500 Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Bert, > > could you change the diff format to something like side-by-side or > unified? > > The default confuses e-mail clients because it looks like quoting. > +1 on diff -u..

Re: when an xo loses connection, how long does it take to disappear from other's neighbor view?

2007-11-17 Thread Giannis Galanis
Simon, I think the email i send you is incomplete, my connection was poor and gmail must have saved the wrong draft. But, 1-2-3, is what i intended to send you. I also meant to ask, How many times do you try _init_connection before you assume the connection is down? I hope so. I have a tarball

Re: MP Build... FYI

2007-11-17 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:06:57 -0500 Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > >> I'm still confused/concerned In particular, I have memories >> of a change for manufacturing test to cause the systems to wake >> up on multi-cast, to enable the mass suspend/resume testing of >

Re: MP Build... FYI

2007-11-17 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:55:05 -0500 Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm still confused/concerned In particular, I have memories of a > change for manufacturing test to cause the systems to wake up on > multi-cast, to enable the mass suspend/resume testing of units. It went into 624 an

RE: MP Build... FYI

2007-11-17 Thread Arnold.Kao
Actually, I had asked our test engineer in CSMC to prepare 625 for the factory suspend/resume test tomorrow. They are doing this right now. It means we should have both 624 and 625 test image to be ready tomorrow. We can make decision which image we want to use in the factory suspend/resume te

Re: [PATCH] Retry frame transmission when libertas driver is busy.

2007-11-17 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Ashish Shukla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The driver silently discards frames when some command is pending -- > returns NETDEV_TX_OK to kernel. The following patch fixes this > problem. This significantly improves file transfers while scanning > (ticket #

Re: log-collect / log-send

2007-11-17 Thread Giannis Galanis
Pascal, I have been working on something similar. It is a console script that gather networks related logs, and will be available in the next joyride. At the moment it includes: var/log/messages var/log/xorg.0.log /home/olpc.sugar.logs/presenceservice /home/olpc.sugar.logs/gabble /home/olpc.sugar

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-11-17 Thread Giannis Galanis
The feature, although not usable by the activities, it has other benefits. By observing the buddy list, you acquire instant information of the network connection go the users: when connected to channel 1 for example: 169.254.x.x address are in link-local 172.18.x.x are connected to schoolserver w

Re: T-shirt ideas / feedback

2007-11-17 Thread Giannis Galanis
Seth, Some pretty nice ideas on that page. I put on the wiki an alternative design for the 10million shirt inspired by yours: 10 million laptops per 10 million children what do you think? On 10/24/07, Seth Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello everyone, isforinsects here. > > There h

Re: new FRS blocker 4418 - no sound in tamtam

2007-11-17 Thread Andres Salomon
It would appear that nothing's able to play sounds; see my latest followup: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4418 On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:23:23 -0400 "Walter Bender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is pippy able to play sounds? > > -walter > > On 10/23/07, Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: Presence service bugs/enhancements

2007-11-17 Thread Ricardo Carrano
> > > > 6. The jabber servers should be switchable(to change from one to the > > > other) in a neater way then accessing the config file and rebooting. This > > > can probably be invoked by sending smth like ..xmlns:stream=" > > > http://etherx.jabber.org/streams"; to="jabber.laptop.org"as

Re: Ethiopian installation instructions

2007-11-17 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
Bernardo I do not see the part regarding the input methods up there. I think there should be 2 parts: one for GTK IM (probably void, since it is enabled by default with the locale), another for XIM - modifying xorg.conf (or using setxkbmap) and setting GTK_IM_MODULE/QT_IM_MODULE. What do you think

Re: Salut (link-local) protocol changing - don't expect interop between versions

2007-11-17 Thread Giannis Galanis
Since you are updating the presence service, it is a could opportunity to fix the switch from salut to gabble. When internet connectivity is detected, salut should stop, and gabble should start right after. However, this doesnt work properly even on latest builds, especially when the XO connects

Re: Salut (link-local) protocol changing - don't expect interop between versions

2007-11-17 Thread Giannis Galanis
Since you are updating the presence service, it is a could opportunity to fix the switch from salut to gabble. When internet connectivity is detected, salut should stop, and gabble should start right after. However, this doesnt work properly even on latest builds, especially when the XO connects

Geode LX Optimizations?

2007-11-17 Thread Brandon Black
Hi, I'm playing with a Geode LX -based board for a small Linux-based home router/voip box (Soekris net5501). I'm hand-rolling a variant of Ubuntu 7.10 onto a CF card at the moment while I play around with the thing and decide how I'm going to configure it. I can get the thing up and running pr

Re: [Xiph-dev] What's the status of Xiph codecs support in the Helix project?

2007-11-17 Thread Aaron Colwell
Comments inline Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves wrote: > Hello lists, > > Personally, I have not yet had an opportunity to test the different > components in the Helix project. As such, most of what I know comes > from Wikipedia. > > In Wikipedia, it is stated that the Helix DNA Client supports Vorbis >

Re: Console Mode, DOS Emulator on OLPC

2007-11-17 Thread guylhem
Hello, I also volunteer - I believe as well that a console mode + a standard X windows, as suggested by the first poster, could have advantages. If you agree, a different runlevel could be used for that, ie the olpc could be switched easily between sugar mode and non sugar mode - call it salt or

Re: [PATCH] GEODE: decouple sleep/resume from powerdown/powerup (take 2)

2007-11-17 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:19:58 -0400 Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This patch merges the fb_powerup and fb_powerdown hooks in a single > operation fb_power with an additional "state" parameter ranging > from 0 (running) to 3 (poweroff). > > diff --git a/drivers/video/geode/lxfb_op

Re: Journal and Tubes Minutes from 9/18/07

2007-11-17 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mardi 18 septembre 2007 à 21:41 +0200, J.M. Maurer a écrit : > > * Bug 2463, when the initiator of a shared activity leaves, > > others can no longer join, even though it looks like they can > > from the neighborhood mesh view. > > * If we had fully understo

Re: LANG=am_ET causes funny collating order

2007-11-17 Thread Ulrich Drepper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > What was the fix? I think we'll need to backport the patch to F7's > glibc for fork the package off in OLPC-2. Lot's of changes in at least three completely different places. Just use the F8 glibc, it can only be better.

Re: LANG=am_ET causes funny collating order

2007-11-17 Thread Ulrich Drepper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > I also tried the latest F8 glibc package, Define "latest". It should work in 2.6.90-17. - -- ➧ Ulrich Drepper ➧ Red Hat, Inc. ➧ 444 Castro St ➧ Mountain View, CA ❖ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/

Re: [Fwd: Status of Ethiopian support]

2007-11-17 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
> My uninformed guess would be that 2 would be best. But > I'm forwarding your question to Lidet for a reliable > opinion. It that case, my Compose file would have to be "swapped" (the left part of the rules). No problem, once we make that decision. > My guess is that the GTK IM has additional us

Re: [Fwd: Status of Ethiopian support]

2007-11-17 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
Hello Bernardo, Thanks for the report. >Sergey's Compose file for am_ET is already upstream, and it >is required for XIM-baded composition to work in all applications. This is the quesion #1 - does OLPC have requirement for Ethiopean to work in non-gtk apps? Are there such apps/activities

Re: More 16 vs 24 bpp profiling

2007-11-17 Thread Bernardo Innocenti
On 09/11/2007 01:32 PM, Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > The 16bpp codepath has to be broken somewhere if > it takes twice the time to copy half the bits :-) It strikes me that we don't see any time spent in pixman_fill_mmx(), even though it's not inlinable. For some reason, pixman thinks it cannot a

Re: DejaVu fonts (Was: Ethiopean)

2007-11-17 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
Is it in the latest _stable_ build? Should I wait for the new one? Or should I rather risk installing today's devel build? Sergey On 8/24/07, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also note that we need Pango 1.18 (just released) for Ethiopian to work; > J5 says this is now in our builds. > > O

Re: DejaVu fonts (Was: Ethiopean)

2007-11-17 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
> I'm afraid I'm totally ignorant of the subject. How is the Xlib compose > handling > supposed to work in applications? Would it also work in Write.activity? First, you should replace Compose file (in /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8). In addition, setting GTK_IM_MODULE=xim should explain gtk+

Re: DejaVu fonts (Was: Ethiopean)

2007-11-17 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
Bernardo, Would you try the Ethiopian XIM in en_US locale (replacing Compose file)? Sergey On 8/24/07, Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sergey Udaltsov wrote: > > > FWIW, yesterday I setup LANG=am_ET.UTF-8 in /etc/sysconfig/i18n and > > rebooted. Sugar was not even able to start (

Re: DejaVu fonts (Was: Ethiopean)

2007-11-17 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
FWIW, yesterday I setup LANG=am_ET.UTF-8 in /etc/sysconfig/i18n and rebooted. Sugar was not even able to start (I am using the latest stable image). Pure X server starts ok. There were errors during the boot process as well (some services reported "FAILED" startup). If anyone is interested, I could

Re: DejaVu fonts (Was: Ethiopean)

2007-11-17 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
Bernardo, When you replace simplified fonts with the full version: are you able to input Ethiopean with the code provided? Sergey On 8/22/07, Bernardo Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (I'm moving to devel@ so we don't need to Cc too many people) > > Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > > Sergey Uda

Power manager specification... (request for comments).

2007-11-17 Thread John Gilmore
The laptop should generally not act differently depending whether there is external power. Too many people seem to be assuming that any form of external power is "AC power" (i.e. a national power grid). In the presence of limited external power, e.g. a car battery, a human powered charger, a sola

Re: some first impressions

2007-11-17 Thread Arjun Sarwal
Hello all, Thank you for your emails. 1) eToys: It would be very nice to have support for Analog Input in eToys. You could use my code - See http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/measure;a=blob_plain;f=audioGrab.py;hb=HEAD (getting samples) and http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/measure;a=blo

Re: JFFS2 file sizes

2007-11-17 Thread Jörn Engel
On Thu, 26 July 2007 08:37:26 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 20:04 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote: > > Jffs2's compression is OK, but as the block size of the compression > > blocks is relatively smaller than a gzipped archive, for large objects > > it's less efficient than gzip.

Re: Devel Digest, Vol 21, Issue 42

2007-11-17 Thread Ed Montgomery
I do not believe it would be compromising the spirit of the program to help a sovereign nation to do what *they* choose to do. My understanding of the purpose of the program is that it is not intended as a platform to tell developing nations what to do -- but is meant as an offer of a useful p

New joyride build 299

2007-11-17 Thread Build Announcer Script
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build299/ -olpc-utils.i386 0:0.44-1.olpc2 +olpc-utils.i386 0:0.45-2.olpc2 -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel mailing

OLPC News 2007-11-17

2007-11-17 Thread Walter Bender
1. Nationwide: This week we launched Give One Get One (See laptopgiving.org). eBay reports the fastest ramp-up they have ever seen. 2. Changshu: Richard Smith and Gary Chiang found the root cause of many if not all of our "hardware" suspend/resume problems. They were caused unexpected interrupts b

Application: XO Quiz

2007-11-17 Thread Chris Hager
1. Project name : XO Quiz 2. Existing website, if any : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Quiz, http://www.linuxuser.at/xoquiz 3. One-line description : Image Quiz-Game where questions are answered by clicking on the appropriate part of the image. 4. Longer description : We try