Albert Cahalan wrote:
Sorry to hear about your war.
Attitudes such as this sir, is the reason that America is viewed by many
nations as a belligerent and imperialistic monster.
It is not whether you can argue for the case that America is NOT a
monster. It is the fact that she is _seen_ as
2008/1/16 Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Let's keep our feet on the ground here.
Just because teaching is a field where mediocrity (or worse) often goes
unpunished, does not mean that expertise is irrelevant. It is possible for a
bunch of non-teachers on a mailing list to have good
On Jan 18, 2008 1:06 AM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Edward Cherlin wrote:
I was in the hills north of Seoul, Korea, in 1968
Mr Cherlin - with much respect to your service in Korea (I have friends
who also served) but may I ask you to please consider the possibility
that
Hello everyone,
I have some general questions regarding school server implementation. I was
hoping someone with development experience or someone with pilot experience
might have some knowledge on this matter. I am working to implement the OLPC
pilot program in Nepal, and would really appreciate
Jeffrey Kesselman wrote:
My personal suggestion to the self-appointed censors is, if you don't
like the content it ships with, go create some you DONT find
objectionable to offer as an alternative.
The fundamental flaw in this line of reasoning Jeffrey... and this is a
flaw which any
Edward Cherlin wrote:
I was in the hills north of Seoul, Korea, in 1968
Mr Cherlin - with much respect to your service in Korea (I have friends
who also served) but may I ask you to please consider the possibility
that your experience as an armed, trained and well-supplied soldier was
not
On Jan 18, 2008 4:06 AM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Albert Cahalan wrote:
Sorry to hear about your war.
Attitudes such as this sir, is the reason that America is viewed by many
nations as a belligerent and imperialistic monster.
I'm sure you misinterpreted me. Maybe you
Edward Cherlin wrote:
On Jan 18, 2008 1:06 AM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Edward Cherlin wrote:
I was in the hills north of Seoul, Korea, in 1968
Mr Cherlin - with much respect to your service in Korea (I have friends
who also served) but may I ask you to please consider the
Hi,
I can't seem to olpc-update to this build or joyride-1543. The images
seem to be available. Also, rsync rsync://updates.laptop.org doesn't
list these builds, but 1542 as the latest (although I'm not sure what
this exactly means :-)
Cheers,
Reinier
Build Announcer v2 wrote:
On Jan 18, 2008 1:06 AM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeffrey Kesselman wrote:
My personal suggestion to the self-appointed censors is, if you don't
like the content it ships with, go create some you DONT find
objectionable to offer as an alternative.
Hear, hear.
The
What part of this do you not understand ?
Why we are still painting this bike shed.
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Chris Hager wrote:
Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
I don't see why breaking this up by tags (some of which can be things like
PG13) isn't a good enough solution. We all know kids will seek this stuff
out no matter what, lets at least do it in a controlled way.
The MPAA uses those
Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
I don't see why breaking this up by tags (some of which can be things like
PG13) isn't a good enough solution. We all know kids will seek this stuff
out no matter what, lets at least do it in a controlled way.
The MPAA uses those ratings:
Jameson Chema Quinn wrote:
Wasn't it the Nazi's who first used censorship? On the other hand,
people who died in Nazi concentration camps have unanimously refused to
play Doom.
/me invokes Godwin's law.
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Jameson Chema Quinn wrote:
Wasn't it the Nazi's who first used censorship? On the other hand,
people who died in Nazi concentration camps have unanimously refused to
play Doom.
/me invokes Godwin's law.
Good call.
- antoine
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Edward Cherlin wrote:
Mr. van Gelder, I respectfully request that you read my message, over
and over if necessary, until you understand the severity of your
egregious and insulting error. Then apologize, not just to me, but to
the others on this list who have had it far worse, and are even
Wasn't it the Nazi's who first used censorship? On the other hand, people
who died in Nazi concentration camps have unanimously refused to play Doom.
New thread please?
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On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:58 AM, Antoine van Gelder wrote:
With a result, that I can guarantee you that if ANY parent at my kid's
school were to start arguing that the school should install Doom on
the
media center's computers that I would oppose them in any way I can.
No one is coming even
I wrote:
The fundamental flaw in this line of reasoning Jeffrey... and this is a
flaw which any sophomore would have been able to spot in the days when
they still taught logic and critical reasoning skills at American
universities is this:
Edward Cherlin wrote:
Antoine, you are
Albert Cahalan wrote:
On Jan 18, 2008 4:06 AM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Albert Cahalan wrote:
Sorry to hear about your war.
Attitudes such as this sir, is the reason that America is viewed by many
nations as a belligerent and imperialistic monster.
I'm sure you
http://www.pyglet.org/
Just installed and tested (not on the XO yet). It seems a good
alternative to pygame.
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Finally, any suggestions about how to extent, augment, or replace
Media Wiki with tools to make these sorts of things easier for the
community to manage would be appreciated.
There are several mediaWiki extensions that might help:
1. You could do an evil hack using the well-tested
There's nothing preventing Johnny from doing this without a laptop.
It's just easier with the laptop, but then again, so are legitimate
tasks. I don't think OLPC should be getting into the business of
creating anti-cheat provisions. I do think that tagging objects with
the people who have
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 10:33 -0500, Michail Bletsas wrote:
Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/18/2008 10:08:09 AM:
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 08:36 +0800, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 19:16 -0500, Giannis Galanis wrote:
It must be noted that the important issue of
15x30pc rocks!
2008/1/18, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Albert Cahalan wrote:
Yes. It got buried in my inbox while I had to make up
some hours for work. Also, you asked for a copy of
the full thing, but I need to regenerate that and I might
as well throw in the new characters
The XO does not have hardware OpenGL support and has a very slow
processor so OpenGL is disabled in X. It means that 70% of pyglet will
not be too useful.
Cesare Marilungo wrote:
http://www.pyglet.org/
Just installed and tested (not on the XO yet). It seems a good
alternative to pygame.
It seems that there are three ideas that have so far emerged form this
discussion: tags, favorites lists, and need for a better back end
than the wiki currently supplies to support search, sort, etc.
As SJ pointed out very early on in the thread, there is a page in the
wiki
On Jan 18, 2008 4:06 AM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeffrey Kesselman wrote:
The fundamental flaw in this line of reasoning Jeffrey... and this is a
flaw which any sophomore would have been able to spot in the days when
they still taught logic and critical reasoning skills at
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 10:08 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
Yes. The active antennas firmware would need to be slightly altered to
start on firmware boot, but the normal XO firmware should certainly be
radio-off-until-driver-enabled (by setting IFF_UP or device open).
Let us make a clear
On Jan 18, 2008 6:17 AM, Chris Hager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris Hager wrote:
Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
I don't see why breaking this up by tags (some of which can be things like
PG13) isn't a good enough solution. We all know kids will seek this
stuff out no matter what, lets at
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1549
Changes in build 1549 from build: 1548
Size delta: 0M
-kernel 2.6.22-20080117.1.olpc.a0ca568e912c1c5
+kernel 2.6.22-20080118.2.olpc.a985ba6d19d39cc
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On Jan 18, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Michael Stone wrote:
When inetd runs upgrade-server/upserv.py, it does so with in the
working dir /.
Since the upgrade-server's python modules are not installed in
PYTHONPATH, this
choice of working-dir interferes with the module loading that occurs
when
When inetd runs upgrade-server/upserv.py, it does so with in the working dir /.
Since the upgrade-server's python modules are not installed in PYTHONPATH, this
choice of working-dir interferes with the module loading that occurs when
re-running python inside fakeroot.
Hardcoding the correct
I immensely admire the Scratch website as a space for collaboration for
kids and adults. I suggest OLPC seriously consider adopting these same
terms of use.
Scratch Terms of Use http://scratch.mit.edu/terms
As part of the Scratch community, you are sharing projects and ideas
with people:
•
On Jan 18, 2008 12:58 PM, Jeffrey Kesselman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 18, 2008 6:17 AM, Chris Hager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris Hager wrote:
Noah Kantrowitz wrote:
I don't see why breaking this up by tags (some of which can be things
like PG13) isn't a good enough
On Jan 18, 2008 1:58 AM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Edward Cherlin wrote:
On Jan 18, 2008 1:06 AM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Edward Cherlin wrote:
I was in the hills north of Seoul, Korea, in 1968
Mr Cherlin - with much respect to your service in Korea
Beg Disclaimer
Jeffrey, I'm replying to your message because it was the latest one in the
thread when I retrieved my 120 OLPC mailing list message today (actually,
that comes from several OLPC mailing lists, but devel seems to have the most
traffic on any given day). So, what I say here
Michail,
This would be 3107, right ?
3109 is when we started seeing the auto-update mode.
John
On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:22 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 15:50 -0500, Michail Bletsas wrote:
Ideally, we want to just kill the auto-mesh-repeater mode, where
boot2
times
John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/18/2008 04:56:26 PM:
Michail,
This would be 3107, right ?
3109 is when we started seeing the auto-update mode.
Yes,
M.
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On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 16:56 -0500, John Watlington wrote:
Michail,
This would be 3107, right ?
3109 is when we started seeing the auto-update mode.
OK, so can we go between 3109 and 3107 in both directions using
libertas-flash.py or did the protocol get changed without telling us?
We
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 15:50 -0500, Michail Bletsas wrote:
Ideally, we want to just kill the auto-mesh-repeater mode, where boot2
times out after 5 seconds and loads the firmware from the internal flash
(which is obviously larger on these devices than on the XO). Can we
achieve that just
Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
As far as I understand this is due to the use of ALSA without OSS
emulation. It's also what affects one of the three Speex bugs
affecting the XO, as the CLI tool speexdec is unable to use /dev/dsp.
For the sake of improving the state of audio
David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/18/2008 03:31:08 PM:
Ideally, we want to just kill the auto-mesh-repeater mode, where boot2
times out after 5 seconds and loads the firmware from the internal flash
(which is obviously larger on these devices than on the XO). Can we
achieve
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 14:47 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
So wait, what's going on here? I thought the devices attached to school
servers were just run-of-the-mill USB 8388 devices like the 8388
daughterboard of the XO, but different connector, right?
What is the post-boot firmware flash
Mr frÿffe9dÿffe9ric pouchal wrote:
Hello
I would like to boot OpenFirmware from an USB key
On a conventional PC or an OLPC XO?
The former is supported; the latter could be made to work but will
probably require some changes.
so I
changed the file
Hello
I would like to boot OpenFirmware from an USB key so I
changed the file
/openfirmware/cpu/x86/pc/olpc/config.fth
I commented
\ create rom-loaded
I uncommented
create syslinux-loaded
but when I do make clean make I have this error
make[1]: Leaving directory
On Jan 18, 2008 10:45 AM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeffrey Kesselman wrote:
I;m sorry... but your accusing the folks whoa re against censorship of
talking in abstracts?
Straw man. [1]
Aha! You do know what that means. Sort of. You just don't understand
it. Ask me
This should probably become a command-line option (or even an inference based
on the path to the python script being executed).
---
upserv.py |3 ++-
1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
diff --git a/upserv.py b/upserv.py
index fa4fb17..216104f 100755
--- a/upserv.py
+++
How about just reenabling OSS emulation? It's included in alsa, so it
should be no problem, maybe it's just a case of modifying
modprobe.conf.
I second Victor's suggestion for the csound api, though. I wonder if
there is a major impact on performance by using it?
Cheers,
Andrés
On Jan 18, 2008
On 1/18/08, Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't imagine why intentionally divorcing from the upstream sound
model to a driver stack that is never going to the upstream kernel
would be a *good* thing.
ALSA is a kernel driver and should never have been anything more. A
decent audio
I'm rescuing this concrete suggestion, since most people probably have the
'violent activities' thread in their killfile by now. (Sorry about that, I'm
as guilty as any of adding personal anecdotes instead of productive
contributions).
The problem: have a community-maintained list of activities
I'm rescuing this concrete suggestion, since most people probably have the
'violent activities' thread in their killfile by now. (Sorry about that, I'm
as guilty as any of adding personal anecdotes instead of productive
contributions).
The problem: have a community-maintained list of activities
Hi
It appears that the sample hello world program [1] provided with OFW is not
working on latest stable revision. At least, it didn't work for my G1G1 unit
with Q2D07. When running it with boot command, I just get:
ok boot disk:\hello.elf
Boot device: /usb/disk:\hello.elf Arguments:
[
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 14:47 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
What is the post-boot firmware flash functionality supposed to apply to,
the host-less active antenna? (which is what I heretofore had
understood).
As Ben says, they're the same thing. If you don't load the firmware
within 5 seconds of the
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 08:36 +0800, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 19:16 -0500, Giannis Galanis wrote:
It must be noted that the important issue of this discussion is how to have
the radio blocked from BEFORE the XO boots, so as not to be conflicting with
the airline
Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/18/2008 10:08:09 AM:
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 08:36 +0800, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 19:16 -0500, Giannis Galanis wrote:
It must be noted that the important issue of this discussion is
how to have
the radio blocked from BEFORE
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1546
Changes in build 1546 from build: 1544
Size delta: 0M
-olpc-utils 0.63-2.olpc2
+olpc-utils 0.65-1.olpc2
--- Changes for olpc-utils 0.65-1.olpc2 from 0.63-2.olpc2 ---
+ Use GPLv2+ license tag as nothing in this package is
Jeffrey Kesselman wrote:
I;m sorry... but your accusing the folks whoa re against censorship of
talking in abstracts?
Straw man. [1]
You accuse me of accusing folk who are against censorship of talking
abstract and then because censorship is bad you claim that my point is
invalid.
I am not
2008-01-19T02:55:50 Bryan Berry:
I hope this doesn't start another rewar :)
So do I; that sounded beautiful to me in every way.
But, though I hope I didn't fan the flames too hard when my hot
button got mashed, I did see a good bit of evolving, productive
thoughts float to the top out of the
Development services (git, trac) will be going down for 6-12 hours
tonight, Jan 18, starting around 6PM EST. Later in the evening, a
smorgasbord of services might experience interruption, including RT,
updates.laptop.org, and the translation system (Pootle). As usual, we
hope to minimize
I wrote a piece about this for OLPC News, on how the Collaborative
Discovery that the laptop promotes is defined in many classrooms as
cheating. For a contrary view, you could talk to the faculty of
Presidio School of Management, where team projects are the essence of
the curriculum, and teams
On Sat, 2008-01-19 at 01:38 +0800, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 10:08 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
Yes. The active antennas firmware would need to be slightly altered to
start on firmware boot, but the normal XO firmware should certainly be
radio-off-until-driver-enabled (by
What exactly is the problem with the alsa driver? Csound works
OK with it. Replacing it with OSS will require us to write a new
IO module for Csound. Without Csound, audio and music on
the XO will have to be completely re-written.
IMHO, developers wanting to use audio on the XO should ideally
use
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1550
Changes in build 1550 from build: 1549
Size delta: 0M
-sugar 0.75.8-2.olpc2
+sugar 0.75.10-1.olpc2
--- Changes for sugar 0.75.10-1.olpc2 from 0.75.8-2.olpc2 ---
+ Fix #1406 #5944 #6051
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On Jan 18, 2008 2:50 AM, James Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
G'day,
I've tested the XO and the active antenna devices in the desert in
Australia.
Good on you.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 02:51:57PM +0545, sulochan acharya wrote:
2. Is the active antenna the same as any wireless router
Changes in build 1544 from build: 1543
-olpc-library-common 1-18
+olpc-library-common 1-19
-olpc-library-core 1-19
+olpc-library-core 1-20
Because I apply customizations, it takes me considerable time to do
an install of a new build. Instead, I prefer to run 'yum update' --
that lets me
On Jan 18, 2008 11:27 PM, Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Albert Cahalan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
You can read Hannu's take on the matter in his blog. This
entry is particularly informative, but note that the code
has since been released under the GPL.
Albert Cahalan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
You can read Hannu's take on the matter in his blog. This
entry is particularly informative, but note that the code
has since been released under the GPL.
http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?p=5
It must be informative and unbiased. After all, he refers
This thread is _entirely_ inappropriate for the development list,
should never have been started on the development list, and in general
makes me want to slam my head against the wall until it goes away (the
thread, the wall, or the head). Please respect the Reply-To header and
move all
On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:06 AM, sulochan acharya wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have some general questions regarding school server
implementation. I was hoping someone with development experience or
someone with pilot experience might have some knowledge on this
matter. I am working to
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