Re: TamTam packaging

2008-04-17 Thread Jani Monoses
-why are the cpp sources in the MANIFEST and consequently in the xo? At the beginning we TamTam was only one activity with a welcome screen to choose which component to play with. When we were aksed to spilt the activities it was the simplest way for us to manage all activities from

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-17 Thread Hal Murray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That voltage has to be read with DC power and the main battery removed to be meaningful. There is a trickle charging circuit in play if there is any other source of power. Good catch. Mine's been unplugged and without battery for a few hours. It's still reading

Re: How to use Salut?

2008-04-17 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Dafydd Harries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there is an internet connection, the laptop will only try using Salut after it has tried to connect to the Jabber server. Perhaps connecting to the Jabber server is taking a long time to time out, so it's not

trying to customize nand images with block2mtd

2008-04-17 Thread Bryan Berry
hey guys, I am trying to customize a os703 image without booting up into Sugar. I am using the following currently, but getting some stttrrrnge errors. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Mounting_jffs2_images here is what I have done losetup /dev/loop0 os703.img modprobe block2mtd

Re: [PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I'm not the authoritative source on this, but I'll toss in my thoughts... Now... this is getting out of control... designer doing reviews... !?! :P (Thanks Eben) Marco ___

New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Michael Stone
Available at a wiki near you: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Plan_of_Record-2008/Draft_2 The important changes since the last version are: * a new foreword, with a rich analogy describing our present situation, * a new (tentative) commentary/criticism of our release process to date, * a

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Available at a wiki near you: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Plan_of_Record-2008/Draft_2 Making quick progresses, yay! A couple of thoughts about the release process: * Reducing the scope of the releases is a reasonable

Re: [PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Dengler
[apart from some feedback on your first two comments I can get a new patch out later today -- so can you focus on those sections please?] On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:00:48AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: So, I'm not the authoritative source on this, but I'll toss in my thoughts... +lvl

Re: Battery life estimation considered impossible?

2008-04-17 Thread Richard A. Smith
Martin Dengler wrote: 3. minutes_left = battery_capacity_pct / 0.59. From [1]. The magic constant is about 1.2 pct of battery capacity = 2 minutes of power; this is what I've observed and consistent with other reported capacities I've seen; but of course the approach is fatally flawed. Sorry

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Dengler
Peanut gallery comments... On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:02:02PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Available at a wiki near you: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Plan_of_Record-2008/Draft_2 Making quick progresses, yay!

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Smaller-and-faster (focused) releases are an interesting idea but I think they are also quite a challenge. We need to ensure that we are able to parallelize the various streams. For example, if we do a

Re: Battery life estimation considered impossible?

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 06:40:21AM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: Martin Dengler wrote: 3. minutes_left = battery_capacity_pct / 0.59. [. . .] but of course the approach is fatally flawed. Sorry I'm a bit late to respond. My attention has been elsewhere. It was well worth the (very

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see this too as a hard problem and don't really have experience neither. What I would expect is that working on frequent time-based releases with features slipping as needed works best for projects like linux distros,

Re: TamTam packaging

2008-04-17 Thread Olivier Bélanger
Le 08-04-17 à 02:49, Jani Monoses a écrit : -why are the cpp sources in the MANIFEST and consequently in the xo? At the beginning we TamTam was only one activity with a welcome screen to choose which component to play with. When we were aksed to spilt the activities it was the simplest way

How can I set my activity with P_DOCUMENT_RO enable?

2008-04-17 Thread Olivier Bélanger
If I can write entry in the Journal, can I assume that I have P_DOCUMENT permission? How can I retrieve objets from datastore? Thanks Olivier ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: More planning thoughts

2008-04-17 Thread Walter Bender
Your scale is 1-10? 1 being low and 10 being high? What is mesh? The transport layer? It is curious that you think that collaboration is currently the most tolerable feature. From what perspective? In the field, I find no other feature that causes as much frustration to end users as the

Re: [PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-17 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [apart from some feedback on your first two comments I can get a new patch out later today -- so can you focus on those sections please?] On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:00:48AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: So, I'm not the

Re: [PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 08:52:16AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: [many things] Thanks for the quick reply. All your suggestions / feedback are clear and I'll implement asap and send a new patch. - Eben Martin pgpmBQ3ACMZ2U.pgp Description: PGP signature

purpose of ticket

2008-04-17 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Recently there was a post to this list which I read as saying if you see internal-to-XO situation XYZ, write a ticket and enclose log. [I leapt to the assumption that XYZ ought not to occur.] Well, I saw situation XYZ, and wrote a ticket. But that ticket has been closed. The impression I

Re: TamTam packaging

2008-04-17 Thread Andres Cabrera
Hi Jani, On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Jani Monoses [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lib is acsound64 not acsound in debian/ubuntu so the link flag needed a change to rebuild the aclient.so instead of using the one in git. the lib will have a 64 if csound was built for double (64 bits)

Developer key

2008-04-17 Thread Daly Ikbel
hello, I sent a request to get a developer key for my XO (OLPC) I received the accept but I can't download it with the command wget -p / security http://activation...; http://activation...%22%c2%a0/ listed in the response of the request. Please what can I do? best regards

Re: [PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-17 Thread Richard A. Smith
Eben Eliason wrote: I think that switching to a static very little power remaining at the point at which you do calms some fears. The closer you get to the bottom, the more a little inaccuracy is going to become noticeable. I'll add that I'm going to add a critical state in the EC code.

version of draft used in the last generation of olpc

2008-04-17 Thread wahida mansouri
hello ; I want to know which version of draft is used in the last generation of olpc. Regards. __ Do You Yahoo!? En finir avec le spam? Yahoo! Mail vous offre la meilleure protection possible contre les messages non sollicités

Re: TamTam packaging

2008-04-17 Thread Jani Monoses
Hi Andres, the lib will have a 64 if csound was built for double (64 bits) precision. Since the OLPC uses the float build it uses a different file (this setup allows a system to have both floats and doubles version of csound without conflicts). Changing the makefile to link agains

Re: version of draft used in the last generation of olpc

2008-04-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/4/17 wahida mansouri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hello ; I want to know which version of draft is used in the last generation of olpc. Hi, what do you mean by 'draft'? Can you be more specific? Thanks, Tomeu ___ Devel mailing list

Re: TamTam packaging

2008-04-17 Thread Andres Cabrera
Hi Jani, On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Jani Monoses [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Changing the makefile to link agains libcsound64.so made it build so that is fine. Are there runtime incompatibilities I should be aware of and which could make it not run on debian? No incompatbilites as long

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-17 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I am in Brazil at the moment, without good access to email. But since this seems to be a firmware problem, Mitch Bradley is the right person to help you, at this stage at least. Please check the batteries as Mitch suggests (photos might be helpful for us to see what's going on) and let us know

Re: How do I resart XWindows when running emulation under QEMU

2008-04-17 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Thursday 17 Apr 2008 6:43:16 am Steve Lewis wrote: title says is all Crtl-Alt has a special meaning in an emulator and Crtl-Alt-Backspace does not work in either windows or linux. On linux it does some very funky things to the host XWindows See section Restart Sugar in

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: I am in Brazil at the moment, without good access to email. But since this seems to be a firmware problem, Mitch Bradley is the right person to help you, at this stage at least. Please check the batteries as Mitch suggests (photos might be helpful for us to see what's

write_file() called when changing Activity name

2008-04-17 Thread Urko Fernandez
Is there a way to know whether the write_file() method is called while changing the name of the activity or when closing the activity? I want to delete a file created in the instance folder after closing the activity. I know files in the instance folder are to be deleted automatically, but on

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-17 Thread Ricardo Carrano
It is possible that the factory neglected to set the date on some units, Isn't if the same that we fixed in some units back in December? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Fix_Clock ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ricardo Carrano wrote: It is possible that the factory neglected to set the date on some units, Isn't if the same that we fixed in some units back in December? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Fix_Clock The problem report stated that they are able to activate the machines, but that the

Re: write_file() called when changing Activity name

2008-04-17 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Urko Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to know whether the write_file() method is called while changing the name of the activity or when closing the activity? I want to delete a file created in the instance folder after closing the activity.

Re: write_file() called when changing Activity name

2008-04-17 Thread Urko Fernandez
Thanks, I've used the 'destroy' signal in my activity class: self.connect('destroy', self.__delete_event_cb) Urko On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 18:49 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: You may add a callback that will be executed just before the activity window will be closed:

Re: How can I set my activity with P_DOCUMENT_RO enable?

2008-04-17 Thread Urko Fernandez
If I can write entry in the Journal, can I assume that I have P_DOCUMENT permission? How can I retrieve objets from datastore? My activity uses sqlite to store information, and I read other instances databases by writing them first on the datastore as sqlite databases:

Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-17 Thread Michael Stone
Ashish comments on #6869: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9 as follows: Currently firmware 5.110.22.p8/9 does not support more than 8 multicast mac addresses. Is there a possibility that any given point of time there are more than 8 multicast address required? Is this going to be a problem for

Re: How can I set my activity with P_DOCUMENT_RO enable?

2008-04-17 Thread Michael Stone
The P_DOCUMENT/P_DOCUMENT_RO protections are unimplemented at present. This means that there are no access checks at all in the datastore. For the time being, you can read and write any entries you like. :( Someday, we will add access checks to the datastore and we will teach Rainbow to keep

[PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Dengler
Support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon and upgrade to consistency with battery icon design from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Frame#06. Controversially (or so I think), this commit includes a very naive algorithm to calculate battery time/life remaining, as a principled

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-17 Thread Ricardo Carrano
It seems a very relevant question. The way collaboration over salut works now (I ask the experts to confirm that), every application will demand a multicast mac address. And four are already taken (01:00:5e:00:00:fb, 01:00:5e:00:00:01, 33:33:00:00:00:01 and 33:33:ff:1:2:3, where 1..3 are the last

Re: How can I set my activity with P_DOCUMENT_RO enable?

2008-04-17 Thread Olivier Bélanger
Thanks Michael and Urko for feedback, I have things working between Jam and SynthLab! I have to spread it over all TamTam activities and to clean the code. New bundles coming soon... Olivier Le 08-04-17 à 17:21, Michael Stone a écrit : The P_DOCUMENT/P_DOCUMENT_RO protections are

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-17 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ricardo Carrano wrote: | Assuming this is correct, than some questions follow. | - Is 4 a reasonable limit (is the XO capable of more in terms of processing | and memory?) The XO is definitely capable of more, especially for activities like Chat that

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-17 Thread Ricardo Carrano
I have a feeling that the capability of participating in up to four activities over a simple mesh scenario (no school server present) seems good enough. But I may be wrong and we certainly don't have enough (if any) user input to validate this (or not). On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Benjamin

Re: Developer key

2008-04-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 17.04.2008, at 15:56, Daly Ikbel wrote: hello, I sent a request to get a developer key for my XO (OLPC) I received the accept but I can't download it with the command wget -p / security http://activation...; listed in the response of the request. There is no space after the slash, it

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-17 Thread John Watlington
Yes, this is a problem for us. We need to request that 16 be allocated. wad On Apr 17, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Michael Stone wrote: Ashish comments on #6869: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9 as follows: Currently firmware 5.110.22.p8/9 does not support more than 8 multicast mac addresses. Is

Re: [Server-devel] Mesh connectivity from regular WiFi gear (Martin Langhoff)

2008-04-17 Thread Greg Smith (gregmsmi)
Hi All, FYI I don't know what is supposed to work but they have tested a bunch in Nepal. I believe that a DLINK DWL2100AP was the first choice in Nepal. Looks like they last tested Lantech WL54G BR with pretty good results. See: http://blog.olenepal.org/ latest post. You may want to check

Re: [Server-devel] Mesh connectivity from regular WiFi gear

2008-04-17 Thread Kim Quirk
I thought there might be a wireless driver piece that needed to be addressed. I gave the PEAP trac item to Michail for comment. Thanks, Kim On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Marten Vijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 09:27 -0400, Kim Quirk wrote: Martin, Wad, We have

Re: [Server-devel] introduction...

2008-04-17 Thread David Van Assche
At the moment I believe coping with fedora, would probably be more difficult than doing what you say you are already going go to do anyway. Why not let me start working on porting to debian, I will not be Nepal until June/July so have plenty of time. I believe, porting said packages to debian and