New joyride build 2448

2008-09-17 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2448 Changes in build 2448 from build: 2444 Size delta: 0.00M -kernel 2.6.25-20080915.5.olpc.abe7a66b36f344a +kernel 2.6.25-20080916.1.olpc.658c681b23bec45 -rainbow 0.7.23-1.fc9 +rainbow 0.7.24-1.fc9 -- This mail was automatically

[Server-devel] offline moodle - patches on a branch in the dev.laptop.org repo...

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Tony, list, haven't had a chance to play much with the code. But I applied your files on top of the latest 1.9, and tweaked lib/javascript.php in a way that would be compatible with merging it upstream. It's here

New joyride build 2449

2008-09-17 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2449 Changes in build 2449 from build: 2448 Size delta: 0.00M -bootfw q2e17-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2e18-1.olpc2.unsigned --- Changes for bootfw q2e18-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2e17-1.olpc2.unsigned --- + trac 8426 - fixed B2 bricking

Re: [Server-devel] Looking at edublog moodle code --

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking briefly at edublog's moodle code. Was hoping to be able to cherry-pick the patches making the html editor changes, but your initial moodle commit is with the _modified_ moodle already...? ok. not all is lost.

Re: [Server-devel] Edublog: How do I submit bug fixes upstream to ou blog?

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious how to get some bug fixes upstream into ou blog. I think its not maintained by Moodle right? I'm trying to figure out also where to get the latest ou blog code to see if those bugs are there. Mostly, just

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 17.09.2008 um 07:26 schrieb John Gilmore: The decision to tie application sharing to Mesh and Sugar was a bad design idea, one which I've been intending to explore fixing. As Benjamin pointed out, the sharing is *not* tied to the mesh. It works just as well if both machines can receive

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread John Gilmore
The problem comes from the OLPC marketing that equates mesh with collaboration which in fact are two independent concepts. What the UI displays as Mesh Server should be Collaboration Server - it's only needed to mediate if the laptops who want to collaborate cannot talk to each other

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 17.09.2008 um 11:28 schrieb John Gilmore: The problem comes from the OLPC marketing that equates mesh with collaboration which in fact are two independent concepts. What the UI displays as Mesh Server should be Collaboration Server - it's only needed to mediate if the laptops who want to

Trac screwage (7579)

2008-09-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
I tried to move several tickets on it from blocking to blocked by, but it looks like I confused trac. It started backtracing and now each of the dependent bugs has stale information. Can someone with trac foo fix it up? Or should we just recreate the tracker? This sucks mainly because it breaks

OLPC Software Development

2008-09-17 Thread Ed McNierney
Folks - Well, now that we've met I suppose I should introduce myself g. I started at OLPC as VP of Software Development last week, so I am still catching up on everything that's happening. I have taken over all software development responsibilities from Kim Quirk, who's now free to focus more

New joyride build 2451

2008-09-17 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2451 Changes in build 2451 from build: 2449 Size delta: 0.00M -xkeyboard-config 1.3-3.olpc3 +xkeyboard-config 1.3-4.olpc3 --- Changes for xkeyboard-config 1.3-4.olpc3 from 1.3-3.olpc3 --- + Make view source work for all keyboards

Re: Peru and Microsoft announcement

2008-09-17 Thread Ed McNierney
Folks - Thanks for the comments and input on how to communicate OLPC activities better to our various audiences. I want to mention a few things in general and also look at this specific situation. I am happy to help better communicate software development activities to the broader community.

Re: Announcing OFW Q2E18

2008-09-17 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 17.09.2008 08:22, Mitch Bradley wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e18 This is the version that we hope to include in the 8.2 software bundle, so please test it like crazy. It won't brick B2s ... Thanks for fixing this bug! Any chance you can give an assessment about

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:05 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes we do. I think that's just bad UI design - as far as I know the school server is independent of the mesh, so it should not be labeled mesh. +1 I'll open a ticket on this now so it's not lost. Collaboration server

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Very interesting thread on the wireless, mesh and collaboration technologies. I think part of the discussion is a debate about what is the best technology to achieve our goals. In terms of what the goals are, I wrote a definition of what I think our collaboration needs to do at:

Re: anaconda deletes /fsckoptions on F9 based XS

2008-09-17 Thread Jeremy Katz
On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 15:21 +1200, Douglas Bagnall wrote: The xs-config package creates a file called /fsckoptions (yes, in /), to stop headless servers from stalling on fsck questions. How often are you actually getting to having fsck questions? ext3 partitions should be set up by default to

Re: Announcing OFW Q2E18

2008-09-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: On 17.09.2008 08:22, Mitch Bradley wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e18 This is the version that we hope to include in the 8.2 software bundle, so please test it like crazy. It won't brick B2s ... Thanks for fixing this bug! Any

New joyride build 2452

2008-09-17 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2452 Changes in build 2452 from build: 2451 Size delta: 0.00M -telepathy-salut 0.3.3-6.olpc3 +telepathy-salut 0.3.3-8.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Gary C Martin
On 17 Sep 2008, at 10:28, John Gilmore wrote: Then why can't my two XO's running 8.2-759, both connected to the same access point, see each other to collaborate? Neither one shows up in the other's Network screen. When I run Write on one, and enable sharing with My Neighborhood, that

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread pgf
benjamin m. schwartz wrote: The wired-ethernet case is already working, and has been for a year or more. Drop Sugar onto two Thinkpads connected to the same subnet, and they will instantly find each other over Avahi, etc. If it's a wireless network, or if you have XOs with ethernet

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Then why can't my two XO's running 8.2-759, both connected to the same access point, see each other to collaborate? Neither one shows up in the other's Network screen. When I run Write on one, and enable sharing with My Neighborhood, that copy of Write pops up on its own Neighborhood

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Morgan Collett
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 18:52, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Sep 2008, at 10:28, John Gilmore wrote: Then why can't my two XO's running 8.2-759, both connected to the same access point, see each other to collaborate? Neither one shows up in the other's Network screen. When I

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread John Watlington
On Sep 17, 2008, at 5:28 AM, John Gilmore wrote: The problem comes from the OLPC marketing that equates mesh with collaboration which in fact are two independent concepts. What the UI displays as Mesh Server should be Collaboration Server - it's only needed to mediate if the laptops who want

Re: [Server-devel] Looking at edublog moodle code --

2008-09-17 Thread Tarun Pondicherry
Hi Martin, Really sorry for the newb mistakes. This is my first time on a project where the repository is actually significant. I'll be sure to pay close attention to my commits in the future. The Moodle I used as a base is from: http://korpelainen.net/weekly19.zip linked from the forum

Release snapshot creation QA.

2008-09-17 Thread Michael Stone
On IRC today, Greg asked me several questions. My responses are inline: * How do we know when are ready to build a release snapshot? Immediately after we publish a new release snapshot, I enter my 'waiting' state. In this waiting state, I wait for test results and for new tickets to

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Michael Stone
John, dlo#8354 is believed to be fixed in 8.2-760. Can you confirm or deny this? Thanks, Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: mechanisms tied to mesh: under a tree collab

2008-09-17 Thread Ricardo Carrano
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:26 AM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ricardo Carrano said: There are technical challenges in the way, but OLPC should keep pushing this for the benefits it will bring. It seems a perfect fit with the Mission. Mesh and the Marvell WiFi chip have been two of

Automatic (Bulk) delete all journal records

2008-09-17 Thread Alejandro Fernandez
Hi! Is there a way to delete all journal entries in a single step? (maybe from the terminal tool?) Regards, Alejandro -- Dr. Alejandro Fernández LIFIA - Laboratorio de Investigación y Formación en Informática Avanzada Facultad de Informática; Universidad Nacional de La Plata Calles 50 y 115 La

Re: Release snapshot creation QA.

2008-09-17 Thread Michael Stone
Ed pointed out to me that I used a bit of jargon, 'release snapshot', which I had not formerly introduced. By 'release snapshot', I mean a build in a release stream (e.g. 8.2, rather than joyride) which is in danger of becoming a release candidate should testing go well. To first order, (signed)

G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-17 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, We need to pick the activities we ship with 8.2 when its manufactured for G1G1 users. Management needs to sign off on the final list as early as next week. Its not definitive but we want your input on what we should include. What do you think are the most important activities to

Re: Automatic (Bulk) delete all journal records

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 05:54:50PM -0300, Alejandro Fernandez wrote: Hi! Is there a way to delete all journal entries in a single step? (maybe from the terminal tool?) From the terminal or a console, this should do it: mv ~olpc/.sugar/default/datastore ~olpc/.sugar/default/datastore.deleted

New joyride build 2453

2008-09-17 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2453 Changes in build 2453 from build: 2452 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-update-control 0.13-1 +sugar-update-control 0.14-1 --- Changes for sugar-update-control 0.14-1 from 0.13-1 --- + Trac #8502: clean up icon cruft in /tmp + Trac

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 05:54:45PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote: Hi All, We need to pick the activities we ship with 8.2 when its manufactured for G1G1 users. [...] What do you think are the most important activities to include? Please pick up to 10 and put them in order of priority. Going

Re: [Server-devel] anaconda deletes /fsckoptions on F9 based XS

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Jeremy Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How often are you actually getting to having fsck questions? Hi Jeremy, good question. In the field, the XS machines never get switched off - they are headless, and set in the bios to auto-switch-on. Most of them will be in

Re: anaconda deletes /fsckoptions on F9 based XS

2008-09-17 Thread Douglas Bagnall
Jeremy Katz wrote: How often are you actually getting to having fsck questions? ext3 partitions should be set up by default to not run fsck unless it's really really needed. [Some dd'ing and pulling plugs later] Yes, it does seem so. I may have been mis-conditioned by certain fsck-happy

Re: [Server-devel] anaconda deletes /fsckoptions on F9 based XS

2008-09-17 Thread Douglas Bagnall
hi Joshua, Just to clarify: Most of them will be in locations with unreliable power - so they will switch off when power gets cut. I have run servers like this for a few years with ext3. I was surprised how well it worked. I never got anything resembling file system corruption. ext3

[Server-devel] XS version question

2008-09-17 Thread Douglas Bagnall
hi Greg How do you tell what XS version you have installed? Someone tried the usual way but it only gives me the Fedora version. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 7 (Moonshine) Good question. Part of the answer is that that will work in 0.5 and onwards: [EMAIL

Re: [Server-devel] Looking at edublog moodle code --

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Tarun Pondicherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really sorry for the newb mistakes. This is my first time on a project where the repository is actually significant. I'll be sure to pay close attention to my commits in the future. Hey - no problem. The Moodle I

Re: [Server-devel] Looking at edublog moodle code --

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I believe I should be cleaning up the messes I create, so I'll try to write two patches based on the current moodle-r2 code in catalyst (1- enable tinyMCE, 2-integrate the Sugar theme). With some luck I should

Re: [Server-devel] XS version question

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you tell what XS version you have installed? Someone tried the usual way but it only gives me the Fedora version. Douglas has the answer for 0.5 onwards. For earlier releases, rpm -qa xs-config and match it with the

Re: [Server-devel] anaconda deletes /fsckoptions on F9 based XS

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Jeremy Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How often are you actually getting to having fsck questions? Hi Jeremy, good question. In the field, the XS machines never get switched off - they are headless, and set in the bios to auto-switch-on. Most of them will be in

Re: [Server-devel] anaconda deletes /fsckoptions on F9 based XS

2008-09-17 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:49:22PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote: good question. In the field, the XS machines never get switched off - they are headless, and set in the bios to auto-switch-on. Most of them will be in locations with unreliable power - so they will switch off when power gets

Re: [Server-devel] anaconda deletes /fsckoptions on F9 based XS

2008-09-17 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:49:22PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote: good question. In the field, the XS machines never get switched off - they are headless, and set in the bios to auto-switch-on. Most of them will be in locations with unreliable power - so they will switch off when power gets

Re: [Server-devel] anaconda deletes /fsckoptions on F9 based XS

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Joshua N Pritikin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have run servers like this for a few years with ext3. I was surprised how well it worked. I never got anything resembling file system corruption. ext3 worked like a charm. Good to hear! What tended to fail was the