testing ejabberd

2008-09-23 Thread Douglas Bagnall
hi I'm having some trouble using hyperactivity to test ejabberd. Hyperactivity always ends up looping over unsuccessful accounts, producing output like this: can't connect hyperactivity-ac4ec2e2-892e-11dd-a4b7-0017c40d34e4. Remove it have to create 1 accounts create

idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
For the zillionth time, my kids brought my XO to a halt. They started up two copies of Tux Paint and two copies of Colors! (BTW, boy do I hate names with built-in sentence-ending punctuation) The end result is that the activities die (unacceptable), usually via power button. There are a number of

Re: OLPC Manual, Help activity v.8

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Schampijer
Seth Woodworth wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~seth/Help-8.xo Version 8 people! You've been amazing. The volunteers that are cleaning up the documentation are working really hard. I've refreshed and exported another version of the help activity today and it's going to be included in the

Re: cerebro's memory usage

2008-09-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
761 and 762 have been released shortly after your mail. If you want to get in a new cerebro, you need to open a ticket, set his action to Approve for release and provide a changelog. This must be documented somewhere on the wiki but I can't find it right now. Marco On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:18

Re: [OLPC library] OLPC Manual, Help activity v.8

2008-09-23 Thread adam hyde
congrats all! Seth, can you make sure the following is in the Introduction to the manual: h2About this Manual/h2 pThis manual was produced in FLOSS Manuals ( a href='http://www.flossmanuals.net'http://www.flossmanuals.net/a ). /p p This documentation is a result of a collaborative effort. Much

Re: testing ejabberd

2008-09-23 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mardi 23 septembre 2008 à 18:22 +1200, Douglas Bagnall a écrit : hi I'm having some trouble using hyperactivity to test ejabberd. Hyperactivity always ends up looping over unsuccessful accounts, producing output like this: can't connect

Re: [OLPC library] OLPC Manual, Help activity v.8

2008-09-23 Thread Bobby Powers
it generally looks great seth. the only thing I don't get is the 'record' shaped button up top that is labeled home. It seems to actually be linked to back. is this intentional, or the case of too much to do, too little time? yours, Bobby 2008/9/23 adam hyde [EMAIL PROTECTED]: congrats all!

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-23 Thread Walter Bender
Could you please elaborate on what the behavior of the Journal has to do with this thread? -walter On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 05:01:41PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: My impression, based on historical conversations with the

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Garrison
Well. It's off-topic. I guess it came to mind because the Journal and datastore are a point of incompatibility between Sugar and the rest of the Linux desktop world. Erik On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 08:16:25AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: Could you please elaborate on what the behavior of the

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Garrison
Well. It's off-topic. I guess it came to mind because the Journal and datastore are a point of incompatibility between Sugar and the rest of the Linux desktop world. Erik On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 08:16:25AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: Could you please elaborate on what the behavior of the

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Garrison
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 03:28:33PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... So perhaps the best thing to do is to add a configuration option to allow the user to enable or disable this behavior? Would it be better if the

feedback about usage of the journal in uruguay (was Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec)

2008-09-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it's worth, it is also my impression. I have heard similarly from virtually all technically-oriented parties involved. I have heard echos of this from less technical users (e.g. teachers who are confused by the

notes on Journal feedback (was Re: Bundle activity)

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Garrison
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was in Uruguay more teachers asked me about issues with the Journal than anything else. I keep poking on this issue to remind people that it's not

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 23.09.2008 um 06:21 schrieb Erik Garrison: Both Joyride and 8.2 streams have composition enabled by default. You can test composition by running xcompmgr -d :0.0 in the terminal. It is available, but the window manager does not use it, afaik. - Bert -

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-23 Thread Gary C Martin
On 23 Sep 2008, at 15:08, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 23.09.2008 um 06:21 schrieb Erik Garrison: Both Joyride and 8.2 streams have composition enabled by default. You can test composition by running xcompmgr -d :0.0 in the terminal. It is available, but the window manager does not use

Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 03:21:04PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote: On 23 Sep 2008, at 15:08, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 23.09.2008 um 06:21 schrieb Erik Garrison: Both Joyride and 8.2 streams have composition enabled by default. You can test composition by running xcompmgr -d :0.0 in

Re: release 8.2 build 762 still has olpc-update manifest failure at line 383 problem

2008-09-23 Thread Ton van Overbeek
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The olpc_update manifest failure problem is still there. Rsyncing: etc/alsa Verifying update. Contents manifest failure at line 383 Last file examined: localtime Attempt olpc_update_irsync_pristine then

Re: release 8.2 build 762 still has olpc-update manifest failure at line 383 problem

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Robert Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The olpc_update manifest failure problem is still there. Rsyncing: etc/alsa Verifying update. Contents manifest failure at line 383 Last file examined: localtime Attempt olpc_update_irsync_pristine then it

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-23 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Sep 23 2008, at 03:40, Albert Cahalan was caught saying: Determining the RAM requirement for an activity goes something like the following: awk '/Dirty/{x+=$2} END{print x}' /proc/12345/smaps (after exercising all functionality) I like the idea overall but this part worries me. An

New joyride build 2474

2008-09-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2474 Changes in build 2474 from build: 2472 Size delta: -0.92M +Thabit-fonts 0.02-3.fc9 +Mothanna-fonts 0.02-3.olpc3 -sugar-artwork 0.82.2-2.olpc3 +sugar-artwork 0.82.3-1.olpc3 -fonts-arabic 2.1-2.fc8 -kacst-fonts 1.6.2-2.fc8

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 C. Scott Ananian wrote: | A hand-drawn proposal for what a Journal supporting directory | traversal as well as tag space exploration is in the attached PDF. | Discussion welcome! Could you please point me to a description of the semantics for these

simple datastore replacement, take two

2008-09-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all, have given one more push to my DS clone [0] and have reached the point where it is plug'n'play compatible with the old one except in the two following aspects: 1.- has no support for removable devices, 2.- all metadata properties are just strings. Regarding 1, I really hope we move

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-23 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:57:36 -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote: On Sep 23 2008, at 03:40, Albert Cahalan was caught saying: Determining the RAM requirement for an activity goes something like the following: awk '/Dirty/{x+=$2} END{print x}' /proc/12345/smaps (after exercising all

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 02:05:55PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: A hand-drawn proposal for what a Journal supporting directory traversal as well as tag space exploration is in the attached PDF. Discussion welcome! I am unable to view this PDF. It appears blank on this end. Would you

Re: simple datastore replacement, take two

2008-09-23 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: | 2.- all metadata properties are just strings. I think this is a good decision (especially since by strings you mean byte arrays). However, it's not quite true. Your design actually has two classes of metadata properties:

Re: release 8.2 build 762 still has olpc-update manifest failure at line 383 problem

2008-09-23 Thread genesee
Howdy, The line 383 localtime error went away around joyride-2344 or so and has stayed away. BTW, olpc-update has been fast and clean for a number of updates. The new build gets updated the first try without doing the 'dirty' download and install thing. Whatever y'all did is muy bueño. I am not

Re: Test Results Needed for Activities in 8.2

2008-09-23 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Closing out this thread, we have a target list of activities now. I passed your input on and we will build a release candidate with the following activities: All G1G1 activities from the first G1G1 (including all 4 TamTams) as listed at:

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Sep 23, 2008, at 2:05 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: A hand-drawn proposal for what a Journal supporting directory traversal as well as tag space exploration is in the attached PDF. Discussion welcome! FWIW, I made several impassioned proposals for these features -- in fact, with some visual

Re: simple datastore replacement, take two

2008-09-23 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: | 2.- all metadata properties are just strings. I think this is a good decision (especially since by strings you mean byte arrays). However, it's not quite true. Your design actually has two

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 C. Scott Ananian wrote: | A hand-drawn proposal for what a Journal supporting directory | traversal as well as tag space exploration is in the attached PDF. |

Problem with am_ET locale definition in Glibc

2008-09-23 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hi Daniel, Just noticed that the LC_IDENTIFICATION in the am_ET locale data file[1] defines the following variables as language am territory ET Ideally it should be language Amharic territory Ethiopia Thanks, Sayamindu [1]

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 C. Scott Ananian wrote: | On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | C. Scott Ananian wrote: | | A hand-drawn proposal for what a Journal supporting directory

Re: Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Briefly: in addition to specifying multiple tags as a b c you can | also separate some of the tags with slashes, like a/b c. A search | for a/b only turns up entries tagged a/b not entries tagged b/a | or a b,

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, I thought you came to the conclusion that there was no use for ordered tags. What changed your mind? Was it the abilty to browse hierarchical systems with the Journal? I also thought you came to the conclusion

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows the Journal tagging world can ignore it, and users who have know the hierarchical world can

New joyride build 2475

2008-09-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2475 Changes in build 2475 from build: 2474 Size delta: 0.00M -olpc-utils 0.86-1.olpc3 +olpc-utils 0.87-1.olpc3 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs

New release8.2 build 763

2008-09-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2/build763 Changes in build 763 from build: 762 Size delta: 0.00M -olpc-utils 0.86-1.olpc3 +olpc-utils 0.87-1.olpc3 -audit-libs 1.7.4-1.fc9 +audit-libs 1.7.5-1.fc9 -libcurl 7.18.2-1.fc9 +libcurl 7.18.2-5.fc9 -sugar-artwork 0.82.2-2.olpc3

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: c. scott ananian wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows the

Re: New release8.2 build 763

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Build Announcer v2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2/build763 Full changelog at: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/pilgrim;a=shortlog;h=8.2 http://mock.laptop.org/gitweb/?p=repos;a=shortlog;h=koji.dist-olpc3-testing

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also imagine that the Extra options menu would appear in the main toolbar in the Detailed view. And aditionally, like in one of eben's mockup, once a entry is checked in this list view, either the main toolbar changes

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eben Eliason
I'm paying attention to this thread, quietly. I like a lot of this. :) I'll let it continue without interfering, for now, but I wanted to point out that the new toolbar design (posted on the wiki) would make that more actions option much nicer. For that matter, as Eduardo mentions, they don't

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread pgf
c. scott ananian wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Eduardo H. Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows the Journal tagging world can ignore it, and users who have know

8.2.0 deployments

2008-09-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Hi, is there a list for who is anticipated to be using 8.2.0 (in contrast to 8.2.1 for example)? One reason I'm asking is that a Turkish translation update just popped in and it would be good to know if this means we need to update the package now or if it can wait for 8.2.1. - Bert -

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Bobby Powers
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm paying attention to this thread, quietly. I like a lot of this. :) I'll let it continue without interfering, for now, but I wanted to point out that the new toolbar design (posted on the wiki) would make that more

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eben Eliason
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm paying attention to this thread, quietly. I like a lot of this. :) I'll let it continue without interfering, for now, but I wanted to point out

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eduardo H. Silva
Scott, I thought you came to the conclusion that there was no use for ordered tags. What changed your mind? Was it the abilty to browse hierarchical systems with the Journal? I also thought you came to the conclusion that turning directory names as tags alone worked. How would the results be

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eduardo H. Silva
Ah, so that's why you separate these legacy-hierarchical files with a light grey slash (/) . So that a kid who only knows the Journal tagging world can ignore it, and users who have know the hierarchical world can understand it and make advance usage of that knowledge when transfering from or

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eduardo H. Silva
I also imagine that the Extra options menu would appear in the main toolbar in the Detailed view. And aditionally, like in one of eben's mockup, once a entry is checked in this list view, either the main toolbar changes to provide contextual actions (those you placed in that menu, copy, apply

New joyride build 2476

2008-09-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2476 Changes in build 2476 from build: 2475 Size delta: 0.00M -kernel 2.6.25-20080922.2.olpc.38b5fedf917fc36 +kernel 2.6.25-20080923.3.olpc.f10b654367d7065 -- This mail was automatically generated See

Re: 8.2-760 AP connect problem

2008-09-23 Thread Chris Marshall
I just updated to 8.2-762 and things seemed to work better with the network connections. I'm about to update to 8.2-763 and hope to get to some more testing tomorrow. --Chris Ricardo Carrano wrote: Have you tried removing your old/previous network configuration? This can be done in the

Re: 8.2-760 AP connect problem

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Chris Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just updated to 8.2-762 and things seemed to work better with the network connections. I'm about to update to 8.2-763 and hope to get to some more testing tomorrow. 761 included fixes for WPA-encrypted access points.

Re: 8.2-760 AP connect problem

2008-09-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a matter of fact, I believe that the 'reset' button actually moves your old configuration aside so that you can inspect it at your leisure. (From examining the code:) This is *NOT* the case. Please don't click this

clean olpc-update needs reboot

2008-09-23 Thread Chris Marshall
In the process of updating 2 different G1G1 XOs from 8.2-760 to 8.2-762 this evening I made the following observations: 1. one XO completed the 'olpc-update -r 8.2-760' command without a hitch 2. the other XO seemed to start ok but then there appeared a number of error messages with

Please help test our new best 8.2.0 candidate, 8.2-763!

2008-09-23 Thread Michael Stone
You'll know that we're nearing the end of our arduous 8.2.0 release cycle when you see the polish and features in our new candidate build, 8.2-763, valid until Wednesday, September 30 [1]. Its changelog (from 759) is available here:

Re: release 8.2 build 762 still has olpc-update manifest failure at line 383 problem

2008-09-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Updating from build 656, using olpc-update 2.7 installed per the instructions at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Olpc- update#Workaround:_updating_olpc-update Before installing the latest build I boot back into my alternate image (656) so I can test the update process to a current build from

Re: [sugar] Tagged Journal Proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Eduardo H. Silva
One extra thing that epiphany has that you didn't explicitelly showed in your mockup is, as you select/type tags, the most popular and/or recent section of the tag pane gets related tags thrown into its mix. Related tags are those which have been applied to objects along side the typed one(s).

Re: testing ejabberd

2008-09-23 Thread Douglas Bagnall
Guillaume, Would be helpful if you could upload Gabble log somewhere. Before starting hyperactivity, launch Gabble manually like this: GABBLE_PERSIST=1 GABBLE_LOGFILE=/tmp/gabble.log GABBLE_DEBUG=all LM_DEBUG=net /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-gabble Thanks. That was enough for me to sort it

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-23 Thread Bobby Powers
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the zillionth time, my kids brought my XO to a halt. They started up two copies of Tux Paint and two copies of Colors! (BTW, boy do I hate names with built-in sentence-ending punctuation) The end result is that the

Re: [Server-devel] Squid tuning recommendations for OLPC School Server tuning...

2008-09-23 Thread Adrian Chadd
2008/9/23 Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Any way we can kludge our way around it for the time being? Does squid take any signal that gets it to shed its index? It'd be pretty trivial to write a few cachemgr hooks to implement that kind of behaviour. 'flush memory cache', 'flush disk cache