Re: Help runnning a script after Installing an activity from .xo

2008-12-18 Thread shivaprasad javali
I am using a tool to write the application. The sound will be played by this tool itself and it uses OSS. Sorry I cannot provide more information as to what the tool is and what is the application. So I cannot change the way I play sound since this would require me to change the underlying tool.

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-18 Thread John Gilmore
What about using a NAND partition as swap? Has this ever been done? Given that partition support is a recent development it seems unlikely. Swapping to the soldered-in NAND chips is a very bad idea. It will tend to wear them out rapidly. Even if you use load-leveling software (e.g. swapping

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 8:51 AM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: What about using a NAND partition as swap? Has this ever been done? Given that partition support is a recent development it seems unlikely. Swapping to the soldered-in NAND chips is a very bad idea. It will tend to wear them

Re: Journal integration for Scratch

2008-12-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.12.2008, at 08:08, Philipp Kocher wrote: One more thing, the scratch icon is not shown in the journal for files with the scratch mimetype. I think the file /usr/share/sugar/data/mime.defaults has to be adapted to include the scratch-mimetype. It just has to be listed in the activity

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-18 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Swapping to the soldered-in NAND chips is a very bad idea. It will tend to wear them out rapidly. Even if you use load-leveling software (e.g. swapping to a file in a jfffs2 filesystem), the problem is that While I generally agree with you,

Re: [Server-devel] Exploding wireless interfaces on your laptop

2008-12-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
[Getting server-devel back on CC] On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Think the renaming fails when wlan0 already is present, and then the rename gets stuck at eth1_rename. with present meaning in 70-persistent-net.rules. Hmmm, you are right. I had removed the

Re: Downloading Scratch project to XO

2008-12-18 Thread pgf
philipp wrote: Hi Bert, John There is a bug in copy-from-journal, it is adding an additional dot before the file extension. Otherwise it is working. [o...@localhost ~]$ copy-from-journal -o 07474cf4-4883-4ded-a994-ab5511cfc29c /tmp/test.sb

Re: Journal integration for Scratch

2008-12-18 Thread John Maloney
Hi, Phillip. Re: Do you plan a journal integration for scratch? Probably not in the near future. There has been talk about making an API for the Journal that looks more like a file system to application programs. That might be the easiest way to integrate the Journal into Scratch in the

Re: Harvard Square Chipotle One Burrito per OLPC!

2008-12-18 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
We will leave from 1cc for Harvard Square Chipotle at 12:30 sharp this afternoon (Thurs, Dec 18, 2008). So far I have the following people confirmed: 1: Tyler 2: Jeff 3: Brian 4: Seth 5: Frances 6: Justin If you want to get in on this please respond asap, as I am going to open this to

Re: Minutes of Power in 9.1.0 meeting

2008-12-18 Thread Greg Smith
Thanks Chris! Could you also mention any planned GUI changes in the specification section? Name changes to the modes and moving the radio off to Network control panel only are two that come to mind. If you can define what it will look like and help close the loop with Sugar or whoever is

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-18 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
After reading Belyakov's paper a few questions for the experts occurred to me: Since Linux allows multiple swap partitions, is there anything to be gained by using two -- the first, a compcache swap file and the second on flash, perhaps with Belyakov's MTD layer. First question is whether Linux

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-18 Thread John Watlington
The soldered in NAND is also 14 times slower on writes and half the speed of a good SD card. wad On Dec 18, 2008, at 5:51 AM, John Gilmore wrote: What about using a NAND partition as swap? Has this ever been done? Given that partition support is a recent development it seems unlikely.

Re: [support-gang] Harvard Square Chipotle One Burrito per OLPC!

2008-12-18 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
I asked if I could bring 10 people, they said bring ten or as many as you want. The first ten responses are: 1: Tyler 2: Jeff 3: Brian 4: Seth 5: Frances 6: Justin 7: Mel 8: Richard 9: Adam 10. Dan B. If you still want to come and did not make the list, be at Chipotle by 1 and I will try to add

Re: Journal integration for Scratch

2008-12-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:57 AM, John Maloney jmalo...@media.mit.edu wrote: Hi, Phillip. Re: Do you plan a journal integration for scratch? Probably not in the near future. There has been talk about making an API for the Journal that looks more like a file system to application programs.

Re: Journal integration for Scratch

2008-12-18 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 18.12.2008, at 17:11, Eben Eliason wrote: In fact, the Journal itself supports thumbnails and a description field, so a similar experience could be offered there, in a place that's familiar to those using Sugar. In theory, yes. In practice, you do not get a preview for downloaded

Re: [Server-devel] stability of XS 0.5

2008-12-18 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:42 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Given that we still have issues cropping up with XS 0.5, are we still going to call it stable? It's great news that you care about this. Do

Re: Journal integration for Scratch

2008-12-18 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 18.12.2008, at 17:11, Eben Eliason wrote: In fact, the Journal itself supports thumbnails and a description field, so a similar experience could be offered there, in a place that's familiar to those using

Re: [Server-devel] stability of XS 0.5

2008-12-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Sure! I have a Fujitsu P2120 (Transmeta Crusoe ~900MHz proc, 384MB RAM) that I've been using for testing. We use it at all the OLPC-SF meetings. XS 0.4 works fine on it right out of the box, but no such love with 0.5, hence

Cmap tools

2008-12-18 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Picking up this old thread (http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-September/018835.html) I want to move this forward again. There is a beta version of a smaller Linux implementation of CMap tools now. Download it from here: http://cmap.ihmc.us/download/cmaplite.php Does anyone

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: Since Linux allows multiple swap partitions, is there anything to be gained by using two -- the first, a compcache swap file and the second on flash, perhaps with Belyakov's MTD layer. First question is whether Linux

Re: [Server-devel] stability of XS 0.5

2008-12-18 Thread Anna
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Have you got an XO? I really need someone to help me experiment with booting F9 off an SD card (backporting whatever cleverness has been applied to F10) so we can put XS-0.6 on SD cards and say: XO + SD card

Re: [Server-devel] stability of XS 0.5

2008-12-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Would it work to install XS 0.5 to an SD card, then run that script to customize the kernel and olpc.fth so it boots up on the XO? And how would networking work? It should work but I haven't explored the practicalities of it.

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-18 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
While the MTD layer does go to memory first, my thought about two swaps was slightly different. Depending on how they are managed, one of two things might happen: (I assume the second swap isn't used until the first is full) 1. less busy stuff gets migrated to the second swap or 2) The second

Re: Journal integration for Scratch

2008-12-18 Thread Eben Eliason
Thanks John! My previous comments weren't meant as an attack against you or Scratch, of course. We know as well as anyone about resource constraints! I just want to keep everyone honest, and make sure that the broader goals for Sugar and the Journal don't get lost while we struggle to figure

Re: Journal integration for Scratch

2008-12-18 Thread John Maloney
Hi, Eben. Not to worry -- I did not see your email as an attack at all. You were just pointing out the fact that the Journal does support thumbnails and text info. That's a good point. Something as innovative as Sugar simply takes time to mature, and you can't get everything 100% right the

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
John Gilmore wrote: Swapping to the soldered-in NAND chips is a very bad idea. It will tend to wear them out rapidly. Even if you use load-leveling software (e.g. swapping to a file in a jfffs2 filesystem), the problem is that if you do start wearing out serious numbers of flash blocks, the

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-18 Thread Jim Gettys
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 09:13 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote: John Gilmore wrote: Swapping to the soldered-in NAND chips is a very bad idea. It will tend to wear them out rapidly. Even if you use load-leveling software (e.g. swapping to a file in a jfffs2 filesystem), the problem is that if

Re: [Techteam] Weekend reports, holiday plans, PTO reporting

2008-12-18 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
I'll be on vacation and out of town from Saturday, Dec. 20 to Monday, Dec 29, 2008. I will have intermittent internet access during this time. There will be no official OLPC Volunteer Infrastructure Group meeting next week. You may contact Reuben or Ed for *urgent* issues during this time.

Re: [Server-devel] stability of XS 0.5

2008-12-18 Thread Anna
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Anna ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Would it work to install XS 0.5 to an SD card, then run that script to customize the kernel and olpc.fth so it boots up on the XO? And how

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-18 Thread Hal Murray
This isn't directly related to swapping, but if anybody is curious about flash technology... Al Fazio from Intel gave a good talk at Stanford EE380 last November. He had lots of details and numbers about flash technology. Good geek bait. Intel is selling flash based disks for laptops. They

New joyride build 2599

2008-12-18 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2599 Changes in build 2599 from build: 2595 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-update-control 0.17-1 +sugar-update-control 0.19-1 --- Changes for sugar-update-control 0.19-1 from 0.17-1 --- + Fix packaging problems; actually distribute

New joyride build 2599

2008-12-18 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2599 Changes in build 2599 from build: 2595 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-update-control 0.17-1 +sugar-update-control 0.19-1 --- Changes for sugar-update-control 0.19-1 from 0.17-1 --- + Fix packaging problems; actually distribute

Re: [support-gang] Harvard Square Chipotle One Burrito per OLPC!

2008-12-18 Thread Daniel Bennett
Sorry I missed it, my meeting didn't end til 1:45... Hope they were tasty! On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Henry Edward Hardy hhard...@gmail.comwrote: I asked if I could bring 10 people, they said bring ten or as many as you want. The first ten responses are: 1: Tyler 2: Jeff 3: Brian

Re: [Server-devel] stability of XS 0.5

2008-12-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 4:48 AM, Sameer Verma sve...@sfsu.edu wrote: Given that we still have issues cropping up with XS 0.5, are we still going to call it stable? It's great news that you care about this. Do you have a spare (standard modernish x86) you can use to join the testing efforts?

[Server-devel] Learning how to deploy/maintain an XS: workshop/materials-creation?

2008-12-18 Thread Mel Chua
Question from Chris Vance (a Boston-area volunteer, cc'd) and the IMSA deployment team (for which Yifan Sun is the liason, also cc'd): What's the fastest way we can learn to deploy, and support a production XS? (The IMSA team is deploying an XS in Cambridge for the CFS grassroots XO pilot, and