Hello Martin -
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Martin Sevior <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Samuel,
> Marc Maurer has done 95% of the work required to do
> multi-programming language syntax highlighting in libabiword. The
> advantage of using libabiword is that you get collaboration f
Hi Samuel,
Marc Maurer has done 95% of the work required to do
multi-programming language syntax highlighting in libabiword. The
advantage of using libabiword is that you get collaboration for free. It
is easy enough to embed this in your own canvas and hook up the controls
you need or wa
There has been talk about expanding Pippy to support a variety of
programming languages, perhaps as plugins; to add syntax highlighting; and
general interest in seeing Develop proceed. Syntax highlighting in Write
has been brought up as well. C and Javascript environments have been
specifically h
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 1:16 AM, Morgan Collett
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With olpc-update, it's not critical to update from version x to
> version x+1 - we can skip versions as we don't depend on a particular
> package state. (e.g. You can upgrade from 650 to joyride without
> having to upgrade
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> appropriating apricots
Alliterating Apricots
m
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- ask interesting questions
- don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first
- http://wik
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:28 AM, Jim Gettys wrote:
> We've gone from build numbers, to ship.x, to update.x
Nonsense. The ship.x and update.x were part of the same scheme, and
that was a _tagging_ scheme, not a naming scheme. It served merely to
correlate a certain piece of production and deployme
Hi Michael, list,
the ds-backup packaging is based on your scripts (
http://dev.laptop.org/git/users/mstone/rpm-packaging ) and I am not
100% sure how it is meant to work but attempting to build a snapshot
or a release makes it snap back at me with
mock.py: error: no such option: --define
Thi
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 06:54:59PM -0400, Jonah Saltzman wrote:
> Hey everyone!
> For those of you who don't know me, my name is Jonah Saltzman, and I'm in
> 8th grade at the Fayerweather Street School. Mel got me working on this cool
> thing called the review squad, and I made a site for it. It is
Build Announcer v2 wrote:
> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2172
>
> Changes in build 2172 from build: 2171
>
> Size delta: -4.85M
Can anyone see why my public_rpms for gnome-python2 and
gnome-python2-gnomevfs did not get included?
Other packages from my public_rpms f
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 06:52:28PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> Do you require more justification?
Yes, qualified: not now, being the main qualification. Tell everyone
to sod off and wait until update.2's out :). Wait til then unless you
cannot, and in that case just declare something by fiat a
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:10:23PM -0400, Ricardo Carrano wrote:
>>
>> I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what
>> exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the
>> build that J
Hey everyone!
For those of you who don't know me, my name is Jonah Saltzman, and I'm in
8th grade at the Fayerweather Street School. Mel got me working on this cool
thing called the review squad, and I made a site for it. It is a
community-based initiative that harnesses the debugging power of all
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2172
Changes in build 2172 from build: 2171
Size delta: -4.85M
+ntp-ntpdate 4.2.4p4-1.olpc3
-gnome-vfs2 2.22.0-1.fc9
+gnome-vfs2 2.22.0-1.olpc3
-rsync 3.0.2-0.fc9
+rsync 3.0.3-0.fc9
-totem-pl-parser 2.23.2-1.olpc3
+totem-pl-parser 2.23.2
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:15:07AM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> For these reasons, in my humble opinion, choosing our software packaging
>> format and guidelines (of which version numbering is but a single
>> aspect) is
2008/7/16 Eben Eliason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Two answers:
> similar issues. This is going to be handled by the notification system,
> which is in its infancy in the upcoming 8.2 release, but should mature and
I hope our alert system will use the freedesktop.org standard:
http://www.galago-proj
Hi Emliano,
Thanks a lot for your input and questions.
The next release is called 8.2.0 and the features in it are being slowly
documented at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Notes/8.2.0
That page is subject to change and may contain errors. However, it has
some good links and pictures of co
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:10:23PM -0400, Ricardo Carrano wrote:
>I am trying to further investigate this, but I am confused on what
>exactly was used on the test. Would you recall what exactly is the
>build that Joe is testing?
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/custom/g1g1/en-708-1/
seems to me to
Hi Ricardo,
BTW, I don't know for sure what element in
particular is responsible for results I have
observed: networking, fedora, sugar, activity...
Regards,
Joe
At 07:10 PM 7/16/2008, Ricardo Carrano wrote:
>Hey Michael,
>
>So, according to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7511#comment:3
David,
We (the techteam) have some questions:
- Are there any XOs for which mouse performance is worse since the
kernel upgrade?
- What are the average environmental conditions (humidity level, dust,
temperature) when you are testing the new driver?
Please answer at your leisure.
Erik
Dennis Gilmore wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 16 July 2008, ffm wrote:
>> Is there support of VPNs in the network manager?
>>
>> (I'm not sure if there is more than one type, but I'm wondering if such
>> support exists at all)
> NetworkManager supports pptp, openvpn, and vpnc(cisco) but we dont
> sup
>
> For these reasons, in my humble opinion, choosing our software packaging
> format and guidelines (of which version numbering is but a single
> aspect) is NOT A TRIVIAL EXERCISE and is not as simple as picking an
> off-the-shelf format. (I wish that the reality were otherwise).
Absolutely agre
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For these reasons, in my humble opinion, choosing our software packaging
> format and guidelines (of which version numbering is but a single
> aspect) is NOT A TRIVIAL EXERCISE and is not as simple as picking an
> off-the-
On Wednesday 16 July 2008, ffm wrote:
> Is there support of VPNs in the network manager?
>
> (I'm not sure if there is more than one type, but I'm wondering if such
> support exists at all)
NetworkManager supports pptp, openvpn, and vpnc(cisco) but we dont support
any of then on the XO.
--
Denn
Hey Michael,
So, according to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7511#comment:3, Joe got
a build from you to test (which he refers to as 'build 708'). In this
build he was able to run the Video-Chat activity, which seems to me to
be in early beta stage, and reports his findings (a crash) as a
network p
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What _should_ be happening in this thread is the collection of use
> > cases.
> >
> > For a "small" selection of the issues involved, please r
>I fail to see what makes the XO case different from the rest of the
>software world - from the pages you link
I agree that the pages I cited presuppose that you understand how our
requirements differ from those of the rest of the world.
Some specific examples:
- Our users often can't make inf
Is there support of VPNs in the network manager?
(I'm not sure if there is more than one type, but I'm wondering if such
support exists at all)
-FFM
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Hi friends,
It would be nice if we had network manager 0.7 in joyride.
* It has a nicer API
* Nobody is developing 0.6 anymore
* 0.7 has new functionality and may have support for more networks
This would likely require working with the...
* Sugar presence service
* Neighborho
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 18:13 -0400, Erik Garrison wrote:
> Would it be possible to push debuginfo rpms to the olpc_development
> repository? Currently we only appear to carry the following debuginfo
> rpms:
>
> bash-3.2# yum search debuginfo
> === Matched: debuginfo ===
Would it be possible to push debuginfo rpms to the olpc_development
repository? Currently we only appear to carry the following debuginfo
rpms:
bash-3.2# yum search debuginfo
=== Matched: debuginfo ==
glibc-debuginfo-common.i386 : Debug information for
thank you guys (and girls? probably just guys...) for the informative
ChangeLogs!!!
bobby
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2171
>
> Changes in build 2171 from build: 2169
>
> Size delta: 0.
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What _should_ be happening in this thread is the collection of use
> cases.
>
> For a "small" selection of the issues involved, please refer to
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Mstone/Commentaries/Bundles_1
> http://w
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2171
Changes in build 2171 from build: 2169
Size delta: 0.13M
-sugar-journal 94-1.fc9
+sugar-journal 94-2.200807015git814c37616b.fc9
-cerebro 2.9.2-1.olpc3
+cerebro 2.9.4-1.olpc3
-kernel 2.6.25-20080715.2.olpc.ef92c83e1c0d23a
+kernel 2.6
Greg and Michael discussed how we want to close tickets. Our conclusions
and questions:
* All resolved tickets should state that documentation was provided or
that no documentation was needed.
- How should we represent this boolean choice?
* Tickets in the 'next_action == finalize' state
David Leeming wrote:
> Hi Richard, sorry I am a bit slow with Linux :) can you say where to do the
> ls -l and uname -a? Just need a bit of clarification on how to check it is
> installed.
ls -l /versions/boot/current/boot since thats the target of your 'cp'
command.
uname -a can be executed fro
Hi Richard, sorry I am a bit slow with Linux :) can you say where to do the
ls -l and uname -a? Just need a bit of clarification on how to check it is
installed.
By the way, I DID notice a bit of jumping cursor behaviour after the install
on a couple of XOs. The 4-finger salute helped a lot. Too e
Two answers:
1. We absolutely need stronger feedback (actually, feedback at all) for
system state, such as disk space, battery level, network failures, and other
similar issues. This is going to be handled by the notification system,
which is in its infancy in the upcoming 8.2 release, but should
This is a problem that all XOs face.
Ultimately we should produce a shared solution and push the fix into
Sugar. I believe there has been some discussion of this?
The problem is getting that fix back out to deployed laptops may not be
easy...
My 2c. Maybe the XO character in the home view coul
Hi, everyone!
I was wondering if is there a way to open a popup or something like that in
sugar, we want to use that or something similar to give warnings to the
user, like "95% of disk space used".
Thanks!
--
Emiliano Pastorino
LATU - Plan Ceibal
Av. Italia 6201 CP: 11500, Montevideo, Uruguay
Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:49:44 +0530, Shikhar Bhushan <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
1. Project name : xomail
Done. Your tree is here:
git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/xomail
Please follow instructions here for importing your project:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Importing_your_project
Let us kn
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have a priority request from "the field" to not lose any saved data.
>
> I believe we already do that except in the case of a "crash" or "freeze"
> of activities (no crashes is another request :-). Is that right?
Hi All,
I have a priority request from "the field" to not lose any saved data.
I believe we already do that except in the case of a "crash" or "freeze"
of activities (no crashes is another request :-). Is that right?
I heard we may have implemented some interim saving feature since 656.
Does a
Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is an important discussion about version numbers.
Not that I want to put heat in here, I just thought you might just be
interested in this:
http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Kernel_Release_Numbering_Redux
Quoting Linus:
"I have to say that I persona
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the comment and understood.
I will wait until we identify the person "doing the release job" before
considering a code name.
In the mean time I'll start gathering requirements and evaluating
priorities on this page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/9.1.0
Thanks,
Greg S
> Date: W
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 19:48 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Daniel,
> >
> > It is quiet possible we'll want to pick up gnomevfs2 as a basic library
> > in a future release (think about the OLPCfs method of accessing the
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:44 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote:
>> Daniel,
>>
>> It is quiet possible we'll want to pick up gnomevfs2 as a basic library
>> in a future release (think about the OLPCfs method of accessing the
>> journal)
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:44 -0400, Jim Gettys wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> It is quiet possible we'll want to pick up gnomevfs2 as a basic library
> in a future release (think about the OLPCfs method of accessing the
> journal). We didn't want the old gnomevfs library since that pulled in
> the old bonob
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Jim Gettys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> It is quiet possible we'll want to pick up gnomevfs2 as a basic library
> in a future release (think about the OLPCfs method of accessing the
> journal). We didn't want the old gnomevfs library since that pulled i
Daniel,
It is quiet possible we'll want to pick up gnomevfs2 as a basic library
in a future release (think about the OLPCfs method of accessing the
journal). We didn't want the old gnomevfs library since that pulled in
the old bonobo horror as a dependency. I'm not familiar with libgnome,
and the
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:16:51PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
> *** Salient quotes: "Each activity.info file must have a
> "activity_version" key. The version is a single positive integer.
> Larger versions are considered "newer". The value assigned to this key
> should be considered opaque to the ac
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> We will also need to enable pyxpcom in the fedora firefox for Browse to
> work.
This is actually the simpler issue to fix, aiui -- just caillon asking
some questions upstream to make sure it makes sense (i.e. not broken beta
software they're
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the status. I wasn't asking if we have agreement. I was
asking who will update the incorrect documentation when/if we have
something new to say.
You seem to know the state of affairs, can you update this wiki link
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_bundles so it does not
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:43 -0400, Greg Dekoenigsberg wrote:
> 3. These dependencies will be coming back someday in the upstream, when
> Mozilla makes these hard dependencies instead of soft dependencies.
Are you saying that, in future, it will not be possible to compile a
xulrunner without print
We will also need to enable pyxpcom in the fedora firefox for Browse to work.
Marco
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So today I had a meeting with Christopher Aillon, the maintainer of all
> things Mozilla in Fedora, and it helped greatly to shape
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:10:56AM -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
>Who can gather the consensus and take responsibility for updating the
>wiki if needed?
No one can, yet, because there's a real argument going on between the
people who have to live with the versioning scheme on the infrastructure
and se
So today I had a meeting with Christopher Aillon, the maintainer of all
things Mozilla in Fedora, and it helped greatly to shape my understanding
of the issues around xulrunner for OLPC and/or Sugar and/or Fedora.
My proposed goal is to maintain a xulrunner package in Fedora that meets
the nee
Guillaume,
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Guillaume Desmottes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
>> >> I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511.
>> >>
>> >> Following instructions in:
>> >> http://li
Le mercredi 16 juillet 2008 à 09:31 -0300, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
> >> I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511.
> >>
> >> Following instructions in:
> >> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html
> >>
> >> Fetching the rpms from:
> >> http://p
David Leeming wrote:
> The cp command gave a string of complaints that the source and destination
> files "are the same file". I am therefore unsure if it worked successfully
> as per the comment below on the wiki page. However after a reboot the
> touchpad still works...
>
> If you omit the
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:04 AM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> (so that it never ends up in the journal) every 1100. The 1100ms value
> was chosen after some testing as the minimum value (or very near to it)
> at which both activities are able to completely redraw their windows on
> switc
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 20:21 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:19 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd like to have some files I uploaded at d.l.o accessible for downloads
> > for anybody so that I can include links to them in reports send to the
> >
Hi,
Problem: switching between activities is noticeably too slow.
Test-case: the test consist of starting Chat and Write and switching
between them for a sensible amount of time. All tests were run on a xo.
Switching was automated by patching sugar-shell to call
shell.activate_next_activity() or
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:19 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to have some files I uploaded at d.l.o accessible for downloads
> for anybody so that I can include links to them in reports send to the
> ml.
>
> How to do it ? ;)
>
> thanks,
> riccardo
>
Put the files in $HO
Hi,
I'd like to have some files I uploaded at d.l.o accessible for downloads
for anybody so that I can include links to them in reports send to the
ml.
How to do it ? ;)
thanks,
riccardo
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Absence of dissent does not mean agreement. It often means some people
are just tired of the topic and will find the topic frustrating to chime
in on; I know this to be true for some of us.
I must say I'm tired of us changing our naming scheme again and again.
We've gone from build numbers, to s
Hi Brian, Michael, et al,
Thanks for the notes.
On this:
* What build should you be testing / providing packages for?
8.2 stream has some divergence
http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/8.2-joyride.html
I'm still not sure which image to spend my time on and QA is asking the
same.
Can you pick the
Hello everyone,
It looks like F-9 ships xkeyboard-config-1.2, while the latest version
(version 1.3) has quite a few OLPC specific fixes and enhancements. In
such a situation do we backport the fixes to xkeyboard-config-1.2 and
ship the F-9 RPM, or do we create a new package with
xkeyboard-config-1
Hi Sayamindu and Localization Leads,
Thanks for following up on this.
I put "string freeze" for translation in the the Release Process at:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process_Home#String_Freeze
I don't know that the exact dates in the process will hold, but its a
start. There are a couple
+1 on Gary's comments! Hysterical and spot on. Please keep them coming
and let me know if I can help you with your project participation.
This is an important discussion about version numbers. The most
important part will be coming to a working assumption (albeit temporary
and subject to change
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2169
Changes in build 2169 from build: 2165
Size delta: 0.00M
-sugar-update-control 0.2-1
+sugar-update-control 0.3-1
--- Changes for sugar-update-control 0.3-1 from 0.2-1 ---
+ Support editing/reordering activity groups.
--
This
On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 11:47 +0200, riccardo wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 05:01 -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
> > description?
> >
> > It would be useful to see a comparison of build 656 v 703 v 708 v
> > latest
> > joyride. That's a lot so just 703 (last release image) vs latest
> > Joyride
> > wou
David, just tried what Dennis suggested and it just worked:
yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin
Please git it a try yourself and if it works, could you update the
wiki page and give some feedback on the trac tickets you mentioned?
Remember that this is in joyride, so perhaps different advice sh
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 4:58 AM, Edward Cherlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The range on our Pootle server is from 0% translated (Aymara, for
>> example) to 99% for German. Spanish, the most used, is at 69%, but
>> a
Here is a workaround: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7514#comment:7
Tomeu
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :(
>
> No network after loading this build.
>
> -walter
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http:/
:(
No network after loading this build.
-walter
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2165
>
> Changes in build 2165 from build: 2163
>
> Size delta: 0.00M
>
> -kernel 2.6.25-20080714.1.olpc.4fa
Le mardi 15 juillet 2008 à 19:39 -0400, Ricardo Carrano a écrit :
> Hey!
Hi,
> I am trying to install the Video Chat activity, in order to check #7511.
>
> Following instructions in:
> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html
>
> Fetching the rpms from:
> http://people.c
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Version (activity_version) is just some sortable entity to be agreed
>
> In other words, let us do the same thing that rpm and dpkg do.
>
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