Write Collaboration - what is known to work / what is not?

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
We've had a few attempts to share Write ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Write ) with the Wellington test crowd, and there are a number of cases that don't seem to work well, but I'm not sure what the state of things is, and what is expected to work. The Wiki page doesn't say much either on what aspects

Re: OFW vs. proprietary BIOS

2008-08-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote. >> I also want to see Open Firmware replace proprietary BIOSes everywhere. > > I'd like that too, but it won't happen. The market forces that drive > the computer business still favor proprietary thin

OFW vs. proprietary BIOS

2008-08-29 Thread Mitch Bradley
Edward Cherlin wrote. > I also want to see Open Firmware replace proprietary BIOSes everywhere. I'd like that too, but it won't happen. The market forces that drive the computer business still favor proprietary thinking, notwithstanding the many FOSS arguments to the contrary. Intel calls the

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 05:47:02PM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: > [tuxonice keep image mode pointers] So it appears I need to recompile and boot a tuxonice kernel to get an image[1]. In case anyone can steer me away from the wrong direction, I'm going to try: # kernel-foo 1) to compile the olp

Re: New joyride build

2008-08-29 Thread Bastien
Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't know what's wrong with rwh's announcer, but joyride builds are > working again: > > http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html And I've updated the easy-usb-install page: stable: build 711 latest: Joyride 2364 *test*: 8.2-75

How to get packages on the 8.2 branch?

2008-08-29 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
What do we need to do to get packages on the stable 8.2 branch? Thanks. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Martin Dengler wrote: > If there are any pearls of wisdom around (or prerequisites thereto) I > would try to help convert them into recipies. If it'd be helpful to > future G1G1 people even better. http://www.tuxonice.net/HOWTO Keep image mode. You will have to tweak some of the init sequence t

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Mitch Bradley
Jim Gettys wrote: > I will note that in January, no less than Gordon Bell congratulated us > on how fast our boot was (slow though we consider it...). > > While for developers making it go faster may be worth some effort just > to save developer time, It's not about saving developer time - it's ab

Re: Survey of activity authors

2008-08-29 Thread Brian Jordan
Hi Morgan, This is some great feedback and indicates that we (OLPC/Sugar) have both an interest in and a duty to more actively engage activity developers and provide them with the resources to properly create and maintain their activities. Some of this stuff I'd like to talk about during the Lear

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
On 29.08.2008 22:19, Edward Cherlin wrote: > I also want to see Open Firmware replace proprietary BIOSes > everywhere. In fact, I would like to see OFW-only embedded systems, > since FORTH is designed for that environment. (I am assuming that > Mitch can add real-time capabilities to OFW, and that

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 04:58:56PM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: > Martin Dengler wrote: > > >Could SD/USB key space be used instead of NAND? > > Yes. But then you have to ship one of those devices. Indeed. For G1G1 people like me an SD card that allowed me to boot super quickly, or even a few

Re: CSound server questions

2008-08-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 29.08.2008 um 23:10 schrieb John Maloney: > Thanks, Jim and Victor. > > Jim, your explanation makes sense. Good to know what the future > direction is for OLPC and CSound. > > If I have questions about making Scratch use CSound, who is the best > person to ask? If it still supports OSC you c

Re: CSound server questions

2008-08-29 Thread John Maloney
Thanks, Jim and Victor. Jim, your explanation makes sense. Good to know what the future direction is for OLPC and CSound. If I have questions about making Scratch use CSound, who is the best person to ask? -- John On Aug 28, 2008, at 12:31 PM, victor wrote: > I'd just like to corre

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Martin Dengler wrote: > Could SD/USB key space be used instead of NAND? Yes. But then you have to ship one of those devices. -- Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.o

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 04:51:23PM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: > Creating a initial suspend image that is loaded on boot [is] trivial > to setup. > > The reason we don't do it is because it burns up a 100 or so megs of > NAND space. Could SD/USB key space be used instead of NAND? Martin p

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > i can't resist pointing out that we could probably do that with > > > linux too, if we weren't committed to using an off-the-shelf desktop > > > distribution. This doesn't have anything to do with the fact that we use a off-the-shelf distro vs a custom embedded

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 29.08.2008 um 22:19 schrieb Edward Cherlin: > bert wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA >> >> Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with bootstrapping help from >> Mitch Bradley. > > Thanks, Mitch. Where can we get details and code? Its not released yet, but

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Dengler
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 04:03:53PM -0400, Jim Gettys wrote: > we should keep our eye on the prize of fast suspend/resume. We're > at 1.3 seconds; our hardware is good to .05 seconds (...and the crowd goes wild!) Amen. > - Jim Martin pgpaz8QVvoaqn.pgp Description:

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > pgf wrote: > >> bert wrote: >> > Am 29.08.2008 um 15:34 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> > >> > > bert wrote: >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA >> > >> >> > >> Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with b

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Jim Gettys
I will note that in January, no less than Gordon Bell congratulated us on how fast our boot was (slow though we consider it...). While for developers making it go faster may be worth some effort just to save developer time, (if the effort is small), we should keep our eye on the prize of fast susp

New joyride build

2008-08-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
I don't know what's wrong with rwh's announcer, but joyride builds are working again: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Blocks? and bug 8090

2008-08-29 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Eben, > > On 27 Aug 2008, at 15:52, Eben Eliason wrote: > >> It's not really an issue of speed. The launcher in current joyrides >> has a half-dozen serious behavioral bugs. I worked with Marco to >> create a patch for

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Mitch Bradley
pgf wrote: > bert wrote: > > Am 29.08.2008 um 15:34 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > > > bert wrote: > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA > > >> > > >> Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with bootstrapping help from > > >> Mitch Bradley. > > > > > > i can't resist pointin

q2e15 released

2008-08-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Q2e15 is up. If you are running current joyride(s) and doing auto-suspend/resume you need to upgrade. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e15 -- Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.o

Re: [Server-devel] School_server

2008-08-29 Thread John Watlington
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_server#Usage On Aug 29, 2008, at 4:30 AM, Eskender Andualem wrote: > Where to Start about the school server? > ___ > Server-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel ___

Survey of activity authors

2008-08-29 Thread Morgan Collett
I surveyed authors/maintainers of activities hosted in dev.laptop.org git over the past few weeks. The results are summarised at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Morgs/Activities_survey Comments welcome. Regards Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.l

Re: debxo 0.1 release

2008-08-29 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:45:14 +1000 James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recent changes: > > - addition of documentation, > - generate name.crc instead of name.img.crc, > - rename package list for gnome build, > - fix to gdm and kdm configuration to use correct username. > > Stability of th

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread pgf
bert wrote: > Am 29.08.2008 um 15:34 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > bert wrote: > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA > >> > >> Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with bootstrapping help from > >> Mitch > >> Bradley. > > > > i can't resist pointing out that we could probab

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 29.08.2008 um 15:34 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > bert wrote: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA >> >> Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with bootstrapping help from >> Mitch >> Bradley. > > i can't resist pointing out that we could probably do that with > linux too, if we weren't

Re: Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread pgf
bert wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA > > Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with bootstrapping help from Mitch > Bradley. i can't resist pointing out that we could probably do that with linux too, if we weren't committed to using an off-the-shelf desktop distribution.

Re: dev.laptop.org unplanned downtime

2008-08-29 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Dev.laptop.org was unavailable from 03:15 to 06:40 due to a network misconfiguration. It had been up for almost exactly half a year. --HH On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:01 AM, Henry Edward Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Dev.laptop.org went down at 03:14 this morning. The reason was I edited > the

Power-on to GUI in 20 seconds

2008-08-29 Thread Bert Freudenberg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0fAUGRUDVA Brought to you by Gerardo Richarte, with bootstrapping help from Mitch Bradley. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: debxo 0.1 release

2008-08-29 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:48:41AM +1000, James Cameron wrote: > % git clone http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/xodist.git While dev.laptop.org is down, I've placed a git repository on my own site: http://quozl.linux.org.au/git/xodist.git -- James Cameronmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://quozl.

Re: dev.laptop.org down or unreachable

2008-08-29 Thread James Cameron
dev.laptop.org confirmed down from my perspective too. Connection timed out. -- James Cameronmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

dev.laptop.org unplanned downtime

2008-08-29 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Dev.laptop.org went down at 03:14 this morning. The reason was I edited the network config of dev when I meant to be editing its mirror, owl in another window, and then rebooted it when I meant to reboot owl. This means that pootle, trac and git are unavailable at present. I will bring it back up

dev.laptop.org down or unreachable

2008-08-29 Thread Morgan Collett
dev.laptop.org is down or unreachable - could it be related to this MIT planned outage? On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 19:04, Henry Edward Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There may be some disruption of services at 1cc this week due to the > announced MIT Media Lab upgrades. At the moment we have no D

Re: OFW Q2E14 is available for testing

2008-08-29 Thread Morgan Collett
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 09:41, David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well my actual intention was to use the actual XOy stuff with the > eee... not just install debian on an eee... I thought testing > connecting to the ejabberd server for collaboration services and the > possibility for it

Re: OFW Q2E14 is available for testing

2008-08-29 Thread David Van Assche
Well my actual intention was to use the actual XOy stuff with the eee... not just install debian on an eee... I thought testing connecting to the ejabberd server for collaboration services and the possibility for it to recognize other laptops including xos as well as collaborate with them might be

olpc-update and staccatto connections

2008-08-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Scott, would it be possible to change olpc-update to use a single connection rather than connecting for each directory? Reasons for this - They lead to bad performance over high-latency links - like XOs in NZ, connecting over satellite or over a noisy RF. - On the XS, we are running rsync b

Re: ibus, a new input framework

2008-08-29 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Edward Cherlin wrote: > I'm on Debian Hardy. There's no such Debian release. I presume you mean Ubuntu Hardy. > I compiled and installed Ibus, ibus-pinyin and > Ibus-tables (apparently) but I'm having trouble with the others. I > can't make the ibus-Hangul engine, and I ca