Re: Inappropriate use of private meetings & lists. (reply to).

2008-07-02 Thread John Watlington
As not everyone has admin access on mailman.laptop.org, here is the text to which JG linked: reply_goes_to_list (general): Where are replies to list messages directed? Poster is strongly recommended for most mailing lists. This option controls what Mailman does to the Reply-To: header in m

Re: [Server-devel] Issue with 2 B4s and a C2

2008-07-02 Thread John Watlington
David, Please send us the tarball generated by olpc-netlog, as well as the /var/log/messages from the school server. I'm cc'ing Michail, as this appears to be a networking problem. wad On Jul 2, 2008, at 5:41 AM, David Leeming wrote: > I am still having problems getting three XOs working

Re: How USB's are enumerated on the XO

2008-06-23 Thread John Watlington
My experience is that you have to find a USB device parameter (serial number, MAC address, etc.) that is different between the two USB devices for this to ever work reliably. wad On Jun 23, 2008, at 10:37 AM, shivaprasad javali wrote: > I was trying to use the port no to which the usb device is

Re: [Server-devel] /tmp, /var/tmp and tmpfs (was: Re: [PATCH] ds_backup - major rework)

2008-06-18 Thread John Watlington
These comment apply equally to school server developers and laptop developers, as we hope to start supporting school servers with 1GB Flash drives for the / and boot partitions, and disk partitions (e.g. /library/) for supported services. The goal is to support OS, networking, and critical

Manufacturing tags

2008-06-17 Thread John Watlington
As replacing the SPI flash becomes a more regular occurence, reinstalling the manufacturing tags is becoming a problem. What tags are absolutely essential for our software to operate ? These are: SN (serial number) U# (uuid) What about these ?: LO (C locale) KL (keyboard layout) LA (cou

Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method

2008-06-16 Thread John Watlington
On Jun 14, 2008, at 6:09 AM, David Leeming wrote: > Hi John, > > To see if we could duplicate our problem, we tried with another AP: > We have > a VSAT set up near the village where we are deploying a trial with 50 > children in PNG. It has a reliable wireless AP and you can > associate both

Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method

2008-06-16 Thread John Watlington
I'm glad you found a solution. Can you provide more information (such as exactly what model of AP are you using ? Which versions of firmware worked/didn't work.) I can't follow the link you provided, it returns: "No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administra

Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method

2008-06-13 Thread John Watlington
On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:45 PM, David Leeming wrote: > Thanks John, but I did realise that simple fact. The APs do have > DHCP server > set up. They still move on. BTW, not so simple. I've done tests with APs and without a DHCP server. I didn't see the problem you are referring to... wad __

Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method

2008-06-13 Thread John Watlington
realise that simple fact. The APs do have > DHCP server > set up. They still move on. > > David Leeming > Technical Advisor, People First Network > Tel: +677 76396(m) 24419(h) 26358 (w) > www.leeming-consulting.com > > -Original Message- > From: John Watling

Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method

2008-06-13 Thread John Watlington
On Jun 12, 2008, at 5:10 PM, David Leeming wrote: > Thanks - solved. It's all there on the wiki, yes (blush). We have a > lot of > time pressures imposed by the political realities here, with 20+ > countries > each with their own government and process to go through, etc. I do > appreciate yo

Re: Peru Upgrade process.

2008-06-07 Thread John Watlington
On Jun 7, 2008, at 12:13 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:44 AM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Look, the reality on the ground is that Peru has at least 15K >> laptops in >> the field running 651/653/656 that need upgradi

Re: Peru Upgrade process.

2008-06-07 Thread John Watlington
On Jun 7, 2008, at 1:16 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As Wad discussed today, the new upgrade process is a step backwards >> from what we had before. Specifically, it will wipe activation keys >> and homedirs. >> >

Re: New, more realistic multi-hop network testbed

2008-06-07 Thread John Watlington
On Jun 7, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: > C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> Last I checked, Poly wasn't an employee of OLPC. > I don't think this is a valid argument either: > > Not being an employee of OLPC does not mean I 'm willing to waste > my time on something OLPC has no

Re: New, more realistic multi-hop network testbed

2008-06-06 Thread John Watlington
Poly, In theory, your suggestion sounds good. In practice, I think it is advanced research winning out over fixing real problems. In the spirit of testing realistic scenarios where we are currently deployed and failing, I would instead strongly urge concentrating on testing 70 laptops

Re: iwconfig msh0 channel x broken in joyride 2009?

2008-06-04 Thread John Watlington
That is known not to work. General rule of thumb: ALL radio commands (iwconfig) should be issued to the ethX interface. The only commands issued to the mshX interface are those related to assigning it an IP address. I've been pretty successful when following those rules. Cheers, wad On Jun 4

Re: Autoreinstallation image is not signed.

2008-06-03 Thread John Watlington
On Jun 3, 2008, at 11:53 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:28 AM, ffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> C. Scott Ananian-3 wrote: >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Olpc-update#USB_upgrade >> This will not work if the OS is not bootable and no alt-os image >> is on the >> disk. > >

[Server-devel] uruguay server hardware

2008-06-03 Thread John Watlington
There has been some questions about what hardware Uruguay is using for school servers. They are placing a second tender right now, but the first batch of servers were: (An IBM x3105) 1.6 - 1.8 GHz AMD processor 2 GB RAM 160 GB disk (two drives, in RAID 1) three NICs (one WAN, and two LAN)

Re: [PATCH] libertas: add sysfs hooks to update boot2 and persistent firmware

2008-06-03 Thread John Watlington
On Jun 3, 2008, at 11:08 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 11:03 -0400, John Watlington wrote: >> >> My bad. This is now Trac #7170 >> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7170 >> >> All of the information in this ticket comes from email exchanged wi

Re: [PATCH] libertas: add sysfs hooks to update boot2 and persistent firmware

2008-06-03 Thread John Watlington
My bad. This is now Trac #7170 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7170 All of the information in this ticket comes from email exchanged with dcbw and dwmw2 when I first discovered it. wad On Jun 3, 2008, at 10:49 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 11:44 -0300, Ricardo Carrano wrote

Re: pls checkout new project management site for E-Paath activities

2008-06-02 Thread John Watlington
Brian, Every country will need their own problem tracking and resolution system (probably more like RT than Trac). This is due to a number of reasons: language, country specific activities and content, the specific software release being used by the country, etc. The place to push issues from

Re: Troubleshooting the XO

2008-05-28 Thread John Watlington
On May 28, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > I would be most pleased to contribute to this guide. Please send a > link to the starting point. That would help, wouldn't it ? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Troubleshooting_Guide > John Watlington wrote: >> >> As

Troubleshooting the XO

2008-05-28 Thread John Watlington
As countries look for repair solutions, they are requesting a troubleshooting guide to the laptop. I have made a first pass at generating stubs for such a guide, and am in the process of filling it out. Given that you have debugged a number of laptops, can you please take a look and add/modify ?

Re: XO-2

2008-05-22 Thread John Watlington
On May 22, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Joshua N Pritikin wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 02:14:05PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On Thu, 22 May 2008, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >>> All this is just to say that "ease of typing English" and "keyfeel >>> like a Remington typewriter" are not the only items

Re: XO-2

2008-05-22 Thread John Watlington
On May 22, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > On 22.05.2008 17:01, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> On 5/22/08, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> h) hardware-protected RTC (bitfrost desiderata) >>> I'd be very interested in the reasons for that. P_THEFT is stil

Re: XO-2

2008-05-22 Thread John Watlington
On May 22, 2008, at 11:01 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On 5/22/08, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is not only a cost problem, but also a big power drain problem. >> Besides that, GPS and GALILEO are similar enough that some >> manufacturers >> claim they can suppor

Re: [IAEP] Converting xol files???

2008-05-21 Thread John Watlington
On May 21, 2008, at 10:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I downloaded a file that has the curriculum of the Peruvian Primary > Schools. > > Once I unzip (unrar?) I have found the "xol" files. Since I don't > have a XO in my hands...is it possible to tranform the "xol" format > t

Re: Datastore & backup - request for help

2008-05-21 Thread John Watlington
On May 21, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Bert Freudenberg >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now, is there a reasonable way to check for whether we are in a sch

Re: [Server-devel] XS software compatibility question

2008-05-19 Thread John Watlington
Can you try installing stock Fedora 7 on them ? I suspect that the disk drive controllers are too new for Fedora7... wad On May 19, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Berkowitz Andrew (Project Connect) wrote: > We received the new servers for the pilot school. > > However, I think there may be a compatibility

Re: School mesh config

2008-05-16 Thread John Watlington
On May 15, 2008, at 5:51 PM, Bill Mccormick wrote: > Ok. I found 4 networking scenarios on the wiki at this link: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Networking_scenarios > > I was a little surprised not to see a scenario where a mesh network > connects via a mesh portal without a school server.

Re: Firmware change (Re: Microsoft)

2008-05-15 Thread John Watlington
On May 15, 2008, at 10:39 PM, Korakurider wrote: > On 5/16/08, Nicholas Negroponte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Open Firmware V2, the free and open source BIOS, is now capable of >> running Linux, Microsoft Windows XP and other operating systems, >> and was >> developed by Firmworks with suppo

Re: VGA external on OLPC

2008-05-13 Thread John Watlington
On May 13, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > Did you try the binaries? > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Remote_display#Binaries > > - Bert - Can you be more specific as to what USB video adapters this might work with ? wad ___ Devel mailing l

Re: VGA external on OLPC

2008-05-13 Thread John Watlington
On May 13, 2008, at 2:29 AM, Dietmar Stölting wrote: Hi all, after reading http://www.whyxo.com/2008/01/08/external-monitor-or-projector-for- the-xo/ I am sure, that it is possible to integrate a VGA external connector for the OLPC. On the Prototype-A motherboard layout there was such an

Re: 65-node simple mesh test (and counting... ;-)

2008-05-13 Thread John Watlington
On May 12, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Ricardo Carrano wrote: > > > How does the collision model/scheme change between AP mode and > > ad-hoc/mesh modes? > > As far as I can tell, it doesn't. 802.11s is interoperable with > 802.11abg, which means that the same media access algorithms are used. > At least

Re: School server stuff

2008-05-12 Thread John Watlington
On May 12, 2008, at 8:46 PM, Marcus Leech wrote: > A few questions: > > What driver is required on an ordinary Linux system for the active > antennae? > [I ask because plugging one in to a hot-off-the-presses F9 system > causes said system to freeze instantly :-( ] > The stock upstream liberta

Re: CIPA done

2008-05-08 Thread John Watlington
On May 8, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 04:06:03PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: >> [. . .] >> It is sufficient if we clearly obey the law, and don't seek >> to go beyond it. > > Any lawyers around? "go beyond" implies "interpret" -- the only > safe course is t

Re: CIPA done

2008-05-08 Thread John Watlington
On May 7, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Joshua N Pritikin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 04:17:04PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: >>> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Joshua N Pritikin >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That

Re: An OLPC Development Model

2008-05-07 Thread John Watlington
On May 7, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: >> Dammit, why are we having the discussion again! >> >> We do not *ship* any image or machine with no activities installed. >> End of story. > > I thought that was exactly what we were doing, and that the only way > to have activities wind up on

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-06 Thread John Watlington
The XO has a good reason for existance (MLJ's display, and attention to low power design). Ignoring the fact that most of the new "low-cost" laptops require much more power --- a serious problem in the most underserved areas --- the price trend is for the second generation of the "low cost

Re: Overloaded Networks, was Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread John Watlington
. > if they point to schoolserver for jabber server, then there is no > problem Great. Jabber is the hard part! It sounds like the problem is a missing identity manager. > On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 01:25 -0400, John Watlington wrote: >> This probably means you don't have the school ser

Re: Overloaded Networks, was Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread John Watlington
This probably means you don't have the school server set up properly somehow. You need the identity manager running on a machine which is discoverable by the laptop at schoolserver in the default DNS domain returned by the DHCP server. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_Identity_Manager When

Re: Overloaded Networks, was Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread John Watlington
On May 2, 2008, at 12:50 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: > >> For any number of laptops greater than 20, we recommend that they >> be registered with a school (presence) server, so that they don't use >> salut (clique). This is REALLY true when using active antennas, but >> still true when using access

Overloaded Networks, was Re: Signed Build for Italy

2008-05-01 Thread John Watlington
> On May 2, 2008, at 12:24 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: >> I have an unproven theory that the __LINK-LOCAL__ XMPP traffic >> (clique) can >> disable networking on XO's when you get more than 40 XO's in a small >> space and using AP's. This is just from anecdotal experience not >> serious >> researc

Re: Activation problems

2008-04-28 Thread John Watlington
I owe everyone a beer/coffee when I get back to 1CC for troubling you with my senility. wad On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:07 PM, John Watlington wrote: > RTFM. > > It looks like most of the problem was not deleting the boot > directory on the key. Why this worked for 3 of five laptop

Re: Activation problems

2008-04-28 Thread John Watlington
RTFM. It looks like most of the problem was not deleting the boot directory on the key. Why this worked for 3 of five laptops, but not these last two, I don't know... On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:02 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:53 PM, John Watlington <[EMAI

Re: Activation problems

2008-04-28 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 28, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:16 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>>> You can try to search the SN of the laptops you're trying to >>>> a

Re: Activation problems

2008-04-28 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 28, 2008, at 2:37 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:16 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>> You can try to search the SN of the laptops you're trying to >>> activate in >> the lease.sig file to see if t

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2008-04-28 Thread John Watlington
reless? Which build are you using? > You can try to search the SN of the laptops you're trying to > activate in the lease.sig file to see if they're there... > > Emiliano > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 3:04 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > &g

Re: Activation problems

2008-04-28 Thread John Watlington
of the laptops you're trying to > activate in the lease.sig file to see if they're there... The activation leases in the lease.sig file seem fine. And I'm using a collector key to get the serial number/UUID, so I don't expect that it is a modified UUID causing the problem. &g

Activation problems

2008-04-28 Thread John Watlington
I have two laptops here in Peru that refuse to activate. I have generated leases for (increasingly) 7 days, 3000 days, and 7999 days, and none work. I activated three other laptops using the same key/activation request and they work fine. They boot up and don't give any error messages. They

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-26 Thread John Watlington
Ivan was not the only one fighting this battle, and I think he quite overstates his role... On Apr 26, 2008, at 7:33 PM, Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Apr 26, 2008, at 7:20 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: >> I do recall your earlier statement that the XO would not suffer >> Windows lock-in on your watch. >

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2008-04-25 Thread John Watlington
The question has come up from Peruvians who bought G1G1 machines: how can we get Sugar to use Spanish, while keeping an English keymap (because G1G1 machines have english keyboards) ? Please pardon my ignorance... wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.

Re: Auto backlight management?

2008-04-25 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > On 25.04.2008 06:25, Ivan Krstić wrote: >> On Apr 24, 2008, at 10:39 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: >> >>> Opportunistic use of the on-board camera and the time-of-day clock >>> could yield such heuristics. >>> >> >> >> The camera lights u

Re: Auto backlight management?

2008-04-24 Thread John Watlington
Bert misread the spec. When the backlight is switched off, the screen automatically switches to B&W mode. Why would you want to take that out of the control of the user ? wad On Apr 24, 2008, at 10:39 PM, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> [...] The

Re: A technical assessment of porting "Sugar" to Windows.

2008-04-24 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 24, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > On 24.04.2008 20:32, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> 11. Bitfrost: initial activation security. >> ... >> For completeness, I will note that although passive and active kill >> theft-deterrence systems have been implemented on Sugar/GNU/Linu

Joyride

2008-04-23 Thread John Watlington
Can anybody suggest a relatively functional Joyride with the new UI ? I'm at the end of a think pipe, and probably won't have time to download a second image if the first is marginal... 1896 ? wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http:/

Re: Ad-hoc Networking

2008-04-23 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 23, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > John Gilmore wrote: > | The presence implementation only works on access points and on > meshes -- > | but not on non-meshed, ad-hoc 802.11. The vast majority of > computers > | wit

FAQ software

2008-04-23 Thread John Watlington
Any recommendations for software for Peru to build an FAQ site ? Yes, there are Wikis. Votes for the easiest to install and maintain ? Is there anything better out there ? wad ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listi

Re: What about Sugar? (Was: Mtg with Nicholas at 3pm on Thursday)

2008-04-18 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 18, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:48 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 8:04 AM, John Watlington <[EM

Re: Do we ever want to bind more than 8 multicast MAC addresses?

2008-04-17 Thread John Watlington
Yes, this is a problem for us. We need to request that 16 be allocated. wad On Apr 17, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > Ashish comments on #6869: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9 as follows: > > Currently firmware 5.110.22.p8/9 does not support more than 8 > multicast > mac addresses.

Re: Severe new bug in firmware Q2D13?

2008-04-16 Thread John Watlington
That voltage has to be read with DC power and the main battery removed to be meaningful. There is a trickle charging circuit in play if there is any other source of power. wad On Apr 17, 2008, at 1:02 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >> I have been told that the Uruguay machi

Re: PEAP Configuration on OLPC

2008-04-14 Thread John Watlington
efs.js (note the > use of pref there instead of user_pref). > > Marco > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:55 AM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Is this really the best answer we can come up with ? >> I was serious about having to do this to

Re: PEAP Configuration on OLPC

2008-04-14 Thread John Watlington
org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#Proxy_Settings > > Best, > Simon > > John Watlington wrote: >> Does anybody know the answer to "Where >> does gecko keep its configuration files ?" >> Thanks, >> wad >> Begin forwarded message: >>> From: M

Tickets for mesh problems

2008-04-11 Thread John Watlington
I'm trying to put together a list of open tickets relating to mesh behavior. Here is the list I think is mostly complete. Does anyone have a favorite mesh problem ticket that I missed ? Cheers, wad Mesh transport problems directly suspected as cause: 4153 - Connect to linklocal instead of

Re: #6869 HIGH Never A: Firmware release - 5.110.22.p9

2008-04-10 Thread John Watlington
Yeah, in testing today, 22.p8 was failing amazingly in school mesh mode. I'm writing up and posting the logs/traces. I'll announce them when done. wad On Apr 10, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Ricardo Carrano wrote: > M, > Release 22p6 is not affected. > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM, <[EMAIL PROT

Re: "Chilling Effects" paper at USENIX UPSEC

2008-04-10 Thread John Watlington
The most represive school systems we have been talking to have been the ones in the U.S.They even claim that they have a legal obligation to break internet access on the laptop everywhere but the school, to ensure compliance with "the law". I personally configured the server to not log IP add

Re: PEAP Configuration on OLPC

2008-04-08 Thread John Watlington
We need to do this to 1500 machines. I'm not about to go to about:config on each one... wad On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > You can use about:config in recent builds: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Wifi_Connectivity#Proxy_Settings > > Best, >Simon

Fwd: PEAP Configuration on OLPC

2008-04-08 Thread John Watlington
Does anybody know the answer to "Where does gecko keep its configuration files ?" Thanks, wad Begin forwarded message: > From: Motaib Abdel > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 11:34 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Cc: Bentahar Latif; Kerner Marty > Subject: RE: PEAP Configuratio

Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-04 Thread John Watlington
A guiding design principle for any XO activity is that it be designed to work without a school server. Learning doesn't stop at the school gate! The only thing special about an XS (or any access point) is that we can know (absolutely) where it is. Whatever system is designed should allow arbi

Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 2, 2008, at 5:05 PM, John Watlington wrote: > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> the problem with trying to use sound is that it requres a clear >>> p

Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-02 Thread John Watlington
On Apr 2, 2008, at 4:00 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> the problem with trying to use sound is that it requres a clear >> path from >> the servers to the laptops, something I would not expect to see >> very much. >> it's also very

Re: Wireless Congestion Management Option

2008-04-02 Thread John Watlington
Meshes of access points don't tend to change topology over time. The laptop mesh very well might. The need to handle this is one of the problems causing congestion. Anybody find new algorithms for mobile meshes ? John On Apr 2, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) wrote: > Hi All, > > FY

Re: increase-mcast-rate script

2008-03-31 Thread John Watlington
I see this script in build 703. But when I ask the driver what it's bcastr rate is, it returns 4. What triggers the running of the increase-mcast-rate script ? wad On Feb 14, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Ricardo Carrano wrote: > Two comments on the "/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/increase- > mc

Re: [Server-devel] Reg: Google summer of Code under OLPC

2008-03-28 Thread John Watlington
Cross-posting to devel, as I believe there are other people and projects around blogging/wiki on the XO/XS. On Mar 28, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Greg Smith (gregmsmi) wrote: > Hi Martin, > > Great advice, thanks! > > We're not tied to Google blogger at all. Just want to have an > option to > shout o

Re: Monday's Testing

2008-03-27 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Ricardo Carrano wrote: > (Time to stop using active antennas for packet capture ?) > > Please check with another sniffer if you can still listen to > beacons from this active antenna. If so, please stop using it as a > sniffer. Please take a look at #6709. I al

Re: any drawbacks to using copy-nand and save-nand to install XO images

2008-03-27 Thread John Watlington
No damage to the hardware, but we have seen a number of weird problems in the past from this method of building an image. It is not recommended. wad On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: > Other than the fact that the firmware security has to be left disabled > to use these command

Re: Monday's Testing

2008-03-26 Thread John Watlington
ugh I have caught one beacon packet from a neighbor at least 300m away, when the laptops are all off. > So, I really don't see such a big pathology (some, maybe) in the > protocol decisions. Burstiness caused by path discovery traffic > seems much more scary to me. Can this algorithm

Re: Sharing behavior in the core Read activity

2008-03-21 Thread John Watlington
It is a known problem that the Read activity doesn't automatically store a copy of the shared document in the Journal. Read has bigger problems. I haven't been able to get it to share the document properly in test after test. wad On Mar 21, 2008, at 10:54 AM, James Simmons wrote: > I am tryin

Collaboration and Networking Testbed

2008-03-18 Thread John Watlington
Over the weekend, Giannis, Kim, and number of volunteers set up a collaboration and networking testbed in an RF quiet area near Boston. We intend on using this testbed to measure performance of the system under a variety of networking conditions. I will be putting up test results at: http://wiki.

Re: [Server-devel] XS-160 - need to run ./olpc-install?

2008-03-17 Thread John Watlington
OLPC_XS_160.iso now installs automatically. OLPC_XS_160_noauto.iso is the same bits, but still requires the manual installation step. The noauto builds will probably not be generated in the future unless there is a specific demand. John On Mar 16, 2008, at 3:27 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: > Hey

Re: Google is now IPv6-reachable --- almost.

2008-03-14 Thread John Watlington
The night the IETF turned off IPv4 http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/ietf-ipv6-switchoff.ars On Mar 14, 2008, at 3:42 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > It's a step in the right direction, at least: http://ipv6.google.com > > They really need to install records for google.com, but we're >

Re: New update.1 build 699

2008-03-14 Thread John Watlington
That is sleep, not suspend. On Mar 14, 2008, at 8:18 AM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > Chris answered: >>> what does inhibit-idle-suspend do? >> >> It allows you to disable automatic idle suspend while keeping enabled >> the explicit suspend on power button press or lid close. Previously, >> there w

Re: Problems with build 699, .i18n locale, and customization key

2008-03-13 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 14, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: > I have two problems related to the customization key and build 699. > > 1. Reflashing w/ customization key and os699 will wipe out .i18n > > As far as I can tell no way to customize the locale using the > Customization key. The XO's that have arr

XO activities

2008-03-12 Thread John Watlington
As we move from a model of preinstalled activities to one where an installer contains a core OS and a number of activities to be installed, the Activities page on the Wiki is sadly lacking. I didn't find .xo bundles for: Calculate Turtle Art Record Can the authors place recent bundles t

Re: mesh with ejabberd

2008-03-11 Thread John Watlington
daf gave a good summary. A few more details about the process are at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Schoolserver_Testing#Laptop_Registration and more gory details are available at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_Identity_Manager John On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:49 PM, sulochan acharya wrote: > Hey

Re: Raise the level of the Hardware specifications... or let's do some field tests!

2008-03-11 Thread John Watlington
I understand your concern. I requested that the laptops be tested to at least 15,000 ft operationally, but was ignored. I will inquire into the reasons. John On Mar 10, 2008, at 3:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to pass this info to some "hardware" development >

Re: [offtopic] Fwd: [Comp] Recuperar arquivos ext3

2008-03-07 Thread John Watlington
Es muy dificil. Los métodos que usamos con ext2 no van a trabajar: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/FAQs/ext3-faq.html On Mar 6, 2008, at 2:06 PM, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício wrote: > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Fernando Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, Mar 6

Re: default jabber server?

2008-03-05 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 4, 2008, at 10:05 PM, Wilson Farrell wrote: > Following the new and the old yields the same result for me, but > the new page required less trial and error. The new page was much > easier to follow. Thanks! In the old instructions the setup of > the shared roster were not correct

Re: default jabber server?

2008-03-04 Thread John Watlington
Morgan, Did you follow the thread last week where using the instructions you put into the Wiki didn't work ? Using the old instructions did. At this point, I've set up over a half dozen ejabberd servers using the old directions, and collaboration works. wad On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:20 PM, Mor

Re: Serious problems with "rescan networks on wakeup" feature.

2008-03-02 Thread John Watlington
On Mar 2, 2008, at 7:49 PM, Thomas Tuttle wrote: > Hi. > > I just upgraded to joyride-1738, and the new feature that rescans for > networks when the laptop wakes up is causing a lot of trouble for > me. I > often leave long-running connections such as IMAP or IRC open. Before > the change, th

Re: Today's mesh testing.

2008-03-02 Thread John Watlington
Thanks for the info ! This is good news, as it means that schools up to a hundred students should work right now, given a school server and three active antennas... wad On Mar 2, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > > Daf and I got the school server jabberd/shared roster working today.

Re: questions about using Wireshark to monitor the Mesh

2008-03-02 Thread John Watlington
all of Wireshark or does this > version > not yet display the juicy bits? > > >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:37 AM, John Watlington > wrote: >>> >>> A version of wireshark which is patched to monitor the new mesh >>> protocol is available at: >>

Re: WDS problems observed in today's testing

2008-03-01 Thread John Watlington
I was told that 17 laptops were associated on Friday, w. lots of bandwidth left over. Question 1: What is "lots of bandwidth" ? CSMC networks don't work well past around 50 - 60% of available bandwidth... Question 2: Did this bandwidth measurement include the relayed WDS frames ? wad

Re: WDS problems observed in today's testing

2008-03-01 Thread John Watlington
Yeah, but unfortunately, we (me and Ricardo) couldn't get DD-WRT to work on the WRT-54Gs on Thursday. It installed fine, but configuring it to just be a bridged access point (and not a gateway) wasn't happening.It is going to be a problem in the field asking "lightly trained" users to

School Server Architect

2008-02-27 Thread John Watlington
renew our efforts to provide low power, environmentally robust servers for rural schools. It is also time to begin work on the next generation of laptop hardware. John Watlington Hardware Architect ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.lapto

Re: Jabber server issues

2008-02-27 Thread John Watlington
Either you are using a jabber server or you aren't. After setting the server name using the sugar-control-panel, you probably have to reboot for the sugar presence service to actually register with the server. Once registered with the server, a laptop will use the server for presence if found.

Re: Wireshark

2008-02-25 Thread John Watlington
On Feb 21, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Javier Cardona wrote: > On 2/21/08, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the reply. What is your estimate of the difficulty >> in supporting the new mesh format ? >> >> We were really hoping to examin

Re: Salut and Suspend/Resume issues

2008-02-19 Thread John Watlington
The partitioning we made between the network processor and the main processor was pretty clean. Unfortunately, it doesn't support low power operation. I suggest rethinking the partition for Gen2. wad On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:04 AM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi Ricardo, > >> A mesh will always rely t

Re: Salut and Suspend/Resume issues

2008-02-19 Thread John Watlington
We ALWAYS have multicast traffic. Blindly waking on each received multicast packet will ensure that we only sleep for milliseconds. wad On Feb 19, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > >> It does feel like we should turn off suspend for some of our >> testing. I've experienced similar

Re: [Server-devel] Active Antenna woes

2008-02-15 Thread John Watlington
Those messages are certainly from the driver, but it has been tested and works fine with multiple antenna. The most likely source of this problem is old firmware in the second antenna. Please take a look at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Active_Antenna_Reprogramming and ensure that the antenna is

Re: Serious side effect of #6299 (silencing salut so gabble can connect)

2008-02-14 Thread John Watlington
etwork will be > naturally salut free. > > Maybe we don't need to turn salut off while trying to connect to > gabble. > > > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:19 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Feb 14, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Jim Ge

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