Re: Google Gears included?

2007-06-04 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Stephen Thorne wrote: On 6/4/07, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know it's way too early to ask about GG on OLPC :-) But -- speaking from the POV of a web-based tool dev (such as moodle) it'd be _great_ to have GG or something similar embedded in the Sugarised webbrowser,

Re: Test Group release notes, build 466

2007-06-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, some notes about the notes... * Search and resume works in sugar-jhbuild. 466 does not have the latest code so let's reevaluate with the next image. * Journal can't be closed anymore, I checked in a fix for that. * I sent a separate mail about Paint, we need to figure out what to do

Re: [sugar] Current state of Trial-2 builds. (and checkin process).

2007-07-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 7/14/07, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) if you have a package/bundle that should go in the build, please include a change log with references to each bug you are fixing. Include it directly in trac; having to excavate your change log out of a rpm or bundle is a bit too painful. 2)

Re: Trial-2 pushing out bugs...

2007-07-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 7/18/07, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could each of you working on Trial-2 please go over your assigned track bugs and reply to this mail categorizing *all* of your bugs into four bins, by Friday? 1) bugs that you believe absolutely must get fixed for Trial-2 2) bugs that you believe

Re: More 16 vs 24 bpp profiling

2007-09-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 9/12/07, Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 14:19 -0400, Bernardo Innocenti wrote: On 09/11/2007 01:32 PM, Bernardo Innocenti wrote: The 16bpp codepath has to be broken somewhere if it takes twice the time to copy half the bits :-) It strikes me that we

Re: More 16 vs 24 bpp profiling

2007-09-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 9/12/07, Jordan Crouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/09/07 17:21 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On 9/12/07, Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 14:19 -0400, Bernardo Innocenti wrote: On 09/11/2007 01:32 PM, Bernardo Innocenti wrote: The 16bpp

Re: #3469 HIGH Trial-3: Human readable file names in the journal

2007-09-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 9/18/07, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we have another solution for being able to find a file after the journal has saved it to the school server? How are backups to the school server going to be handled for trial-3? It think the proper long term solution the remote datastore stuff

Re: The gecko engine on the XO

2007-09-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Browser example here: https://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/hulahop;a=blob;f=tests/test-web-view.py;h=63ede6b7e100a4c3dc40c434997a05fa9f7bae64;hb=HEAD Easier way to build it on your box is sugar-jhbuild: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar_with_sugar-jhbuild You can probably just build xulrunner

Re: The gecko engine on the XO

2007-09-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 9/18/07, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easier way to build it on your box is sugar-jhbuild: Or, if you have Fedora 7, you can also just install the olpc xulrunner/hulahop rpms on it. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel

Re: #3655 HIGH Trial-3: Specify the order of the Activity taskbar icons

2007-09-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 9/20/07, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree we'll want some level of customization for the order, but it is a low priority. A high priority to ensure that we have the core activities: explore, express, communicate on the primary taskbar. Having to scroll to discover Write or

Re: [sugar] Monday Ship Message, 2007-09-24

2007-09-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 9/24/07, Kim Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FRS schedule is right on the tail of this Trial-3 release. People who are not working on the few critical bugs left in trial-3, please start in on the bugs that have been moved into FRS. These fixes will need to be checked into a different

Re: funny behaviour gtk+python

2007-10-04 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
') _ http://jeanpiche.com On 4-Oct-07, at 9:49 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote: Yes setting LANG=C at the console solves the problem. Would you care to explain why? Victor At 13:15 04/10/2007, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On 10/4/07, Victor Lazzarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (OLPC build 602

Re: [sugar] Joyride package log

2007-10-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 10/19/07, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This now shows the latest changelog entry for rpms in the joyride repo, too: http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs Unfortunately, sugar rpms do not have sensible change log entries. Enjoy anyway. I can fix the scripts to put

Re: Pilgrim patch to remove sugar tmp repo

2007-10-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 10/20/07, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, sorry, I read too fast the first time. Your patch also removes the tmp repo from the yum config written to the XO; I suppose we'll have to point the XO's yum at the public joyride repo, but we could wait to do that until joyride

Re: new FRS blocker 4418 - no sound in tamtam

2007-10-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 10/24/07, Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed this as well; note that the MIC LED comes on *after* X starts, while sugar is being initialized. We also see the following message on the console: [ 91.166430] snd-malloc: invalid device type 0 I'm not sure what userspace

Re: [sugar] CODE FREEZE COMING!

2007-10-27 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello I just created a branch in the sugar git repository for the xmas milestone. The name is xm. Please check in code in this branch only when you have approval, as specified by Jim email. Feel free to branch other git components as appropriate. As usual be careful and follow the git tips on

Re: list of rouge packages

2007-10-29 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 10/29/07, John (J5) Palmieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Avahi smcv is ontop of this owner: dcbw (Dan Williams) tmprepo: avahi-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-autoipd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-compat-libdns_sd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-dnsconfd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-30 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 10/30/07, Sjoerd Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 01:18:17PM -0400, Michail Bletsas wrote: At this point in time, having as much debug info available in the developer console without having to remember which command-line tool provides what, is crucial for

Re: ip4-address buddy property - still needed?

2007-10-30 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 10/30/07, Erik Blankinship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I welcome the new activities and think it is great to integrate them into sugar, can we reconsider completely doing away with the dev console? It is /very/ useful to have the console open on an xo while the activity you are debugging

Re: log-collect / log-send

2007-10-31 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 10/31/07, Pascal Scheffers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any chance that either or both of our console scripts make it to MP? Or has that time passed? I got the impression last sunday that that is what we were trying to shoot for... Code freeze is this Friday... Hurry up! :) Marco

Re: [Localization] New localisation workflow: Overview and status

2007-10-31 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 10/31/07, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Current Status ** Most of the scripts, etc are ready, and we are quite satisfied with the results of what we have seen so far using local repositories. The only major blocker issue that is left to be resolved is the question of GIT

Re: [Localization] New localisation workflow: Overview and status

2007-11-01 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On 11/1/07, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/31/07, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/31/07, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Current Status ** Most of the scripts, etc are ready, and we are quite satisfied

Re: [sugar] i18n, olpc-configure and xorg.conf changes

2007-11-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Bernardo, thanks for the exhaustive explanation... What's the quick recipe to turn on debug logging in the latest joyride? Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [sugar] secure /tmp and /var/tmp

2007-11-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Nov 8, 2007 5:20 PM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bitfrost is not a general Linux distribution security mechanism. Sugar is not a general Linux desktop environment. These things are designed with different goals in mind, for a different purpose, and behave differently than the

Re: [sugar] secure /tmp and /var/tmp

2007-11-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Nov 8, 2007 6:11 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 8, 2007, at 18:09 , Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Though applications backwards compatibility just doesn't make sense in this context. We consciously broke it with the high level design, both of the user experience

Re: Notes on joyride-258 and 630

2007-11-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Nov 12, 2007 7:53 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) When you attempt to join a shared activity, does it work? Does anything funky happen? The answers to (1) and (2) are supposed to be 'yes' and 'yes'. If they aren't, I'd really like to know about it. I'm expecting the

Re: News Reader hosting application

2007-11-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Nov 15, 2007 10:32 PM, Owen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10. Shell accounts don't need You need a shell account if you plan to get the .xo in joyride... Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: New joyride build 328

2007-11-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Nov 23, 2007 7:15 PM, Build Announcer Script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +Web-70.xo -Web-74.xo Looks like we reverted to Web-70. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: New joyride build 340

2007-11-26 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Ooops, looks like all my rpms was reverted... I had made ~/public_rpms/joyride a symlink, maybe that confuses the build system. I changed it back to a real directory, let's see if that works. Please ignore this build. Marco On Nov 27, 2007 1:30 AM, Build Announcer Script [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Joyride

2007-12-01 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, joyride does not seem to be building hourly any more. Intentional? Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Bundling Python extensions that depend on C libraries

2007-12-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 8, 2007 9:59 AM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2007, at 1:15 , Asheesh Laroia wrote: I'd like to bundle a Python C extension and use it from my activity. This requires Python to dlopen() a shared library whose path can change depending on where the activity

Re: WPA - testing

2007-12-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 12, 2007 11:38 PM, Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco, Could you tell us, what is broken? To make it short, wpa_passphrase is not executed correctly, so we don't write a proper .cfg. The fix was available when Ship.2 was released but we (me + Jim) decided to not land it

Re: xpcom and javascript

2007-12-13 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 13, 2007 11:13 AM, Christian Reichlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i just like to call javascript functions in general. i checked in an example: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/comic-maker;a=blob_plain;f=comicmakeractivity.py;hb=HEAD Give a try to web_view.evaluate_script('hello()')

Re: WPA - testing

2007-12-13 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Some people are experiencing problems with the latest joyride, looking like a firmware/kernel regression. See #5485. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: WPA - testing

2007-12-13 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 13, 2007 9:50 PM, Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim asked me to post this here. Here is the idea for today's build. Based on 650 + (1) whatever was fixed to make WPA work in UI (2) p47 libertas fw. Premises: - 657: Is not in good shape (confimed by Alex Latham) - 650:

Re: WPA - testing

2007-12-13 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 13, 2007 10:24 PM, Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 15:14 -0500, Michail Bletsas wrote: Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/13/2007 02:54:11 PM: - Whatever changed between 1407 and 1416 seem to have really crashed WPA support, I

Re: New joyride build 1419

2007-12-13 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 14, 2007 1:45 AM, Build Announcer Script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1419/ +sugar-datastore.noarch 0:0.5-0.8.gite23a6f66eb -sugar-datastore.noarch 0:0.7.0-1 +sugar.i386 0:0.75.0-0.9.git5e942edddc -sugar.i386 0:0.75.3-1 Dennis,

Re: New joyride build 1420

2007-12-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 14, 2007 9:39 AM, Jani Monoses [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Build Announcer Script wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1420/ -sugar-datastore.noarch 0:0.5-0.8.gite23a6f66eb +sugar-datastore.noarch 0:0.7.0-1 Where is the version number 0.7 taken from? In

Enable security in Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, we need to enable security in the Update.1 images, since the plan is to ship with it enabled. Looks like it's turned off in pilgrim at the moment. 463 echo - turning off security by default 464 rm -f $INSTALL_ROOT/etc/olpc-security Dennis, we are planning to request approval for a

Update.1 builds

2007-12-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
The location of the Update.1 builds has changed: http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/ I'm not sure if it's the final location but it would be to update the Changelog to point to it. http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-pkgs.html Marco

Re: Builds and release process ( was Re: Update.1 schedule and code freeze...)

2007-12-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 15, 2007 3:14 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 15, 2007 7:35 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 14, 2007 11:01 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Declaring code freeze for Update.1 today would not see a rational resolution

Re: Builds and release process ( was Re: Update.1 schedule and code freeze...)

2007-12-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 15, 2007 3:54 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C. Scott Ananian wrote: My personal feeling is that we created update.1 too soon. IMO development should have been occurring in the joyride builds up until code freeze (yesterday, or a week from yesterday). There's no

Re: Builds and release process

2007-12-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 15, 2007 5:27 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've started building my own images a few weeks ago and found that it is not at all difficult. All I had to do was really cloning the pilgrim repo and changing the build name from joyride to xtest. A build generally takes 10

Re: jhbuild failure: evince-olpc -- evince

2007-12-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
We need to submit patches upstream at some point after Update.1. Marco On Dec 19, 2007 3:44 PM, Reinier Heeres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jani, That would be awesome, and in fact we were hoping that something like this was possible. I made only minor adjustments to the latest source. The

Re: New joyride build 1450

2007-12-19 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 20, 2007 1:05 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 4:00 PM, Build Announcer Script [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build1450/ --- Journal-82 --- * #2545 Correctly unmount the device from the DS when it is

Re: [sugar] Hippo Canvas

2007-12-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 20, 2007 7:16 PM, Gonzalo Odiard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its planned adopt goocanvas or another canvas? I want to stick with upstream here (gtk). The main reason gtk doesn't ship a canvas is that there are not really good candidates. (goocanvas is basically unmaintained, for example).

Re: Status of SVG rendering on the XO

2007-12-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
We ship xulrunner on the builds, I'm not sure what kind of performance we get out of SVG right now, though. Marco On Dec 20, 2007 9:06 PM, Jake B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I am expecting to get my XO laptop in the mail any day now. I was hoping someone could tell me, does the XO

Re: Status of SVG rendering on the XO

2007-12-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 20, 2007 9:30 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen some examples of this working, though none of them complex enough to really test performance. The core problem when I used it was that the coordinate system for the mouse events didn't map correctly to the display, due to

Re: Status of SVG rendering on the XO

2007-12-20 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 20, 2007 9:31 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 20, 2007 9:30 PM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen some examples of this working, though none of them complex enough to really test performance. The core problem when I used

Re: Status of SVG rendering on the XO

2007-12-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 21, 2007 4:49 PM, Ed Trager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A question to ask might be, when will the XO get updated to use FF3's new rendering engine? The new engine is supposed to be faster, although I have not found that to really be the case on our machines. We are currently using the

Code freeze

2007-12-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, according to the roadmap we are now in code freeze for Update.1. I went through the Sugar core tickets and assigned to Retriage those I don't think it's worth or possible to fix for Update.1. Here are the remaining issues:

Re: [sugar] Update.1 schedule trac usage... ***Please Read**

2007-12-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 27, 2007 5:02 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Predictably, lots of people are on vacation, making the following problem critical, as it is difficult for me to query people individually on status as it might be at other times: Trac's (current) workflow is poor: we've had no good

Re: [sugar] Update.1 schedule trac usage... ***Please Read**

2007-12-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 28, 2007 4:14 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess there may have been misunderstanding: since the beginning of December (or maybe before), only things intended for Update.1 and issues approved for fixing in Update.1 needing testing were supposed to be loaded into joyride.

Re: [sugar] Update.1 schedule trac usage... ***Please Read**

2007-12-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Dec 28, 2007 5:12 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd recommend not closing the bugs until you ask for approval for update (are finished with the set of bugs), rather than doing so immediately on each bug. Perfect, that's what I was asking for. But waiting to close until after

Re: huge init footprint

2008-01-29 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Jan 29, 2008 11:20 AM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: a similar issue is that olpc-hardware-manager costs about 4MB. All it does is being a dbus service for writing a few sysfs files. It could be rewritten in C very quickly and even folded into ohm.

Re: splitting djvulibre

2008-01-30 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Jan 30, 2008 1:38 AM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 09:15 +0100, Reinier Heeres wrote: What's dragging in djvulibre, desktop-file-utils and xdg-utils? djvulibre is dragged in by Read, which in the current joyride also supports

Re: prevent data loss in running activities

2008-02-04 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Looks like the new gnome-session is a good candidate: http://live.gnome.org/SessionManagement/NewGnomeSession http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-session/branches/new-gnome-session/ We can use EggSMClient for activities, it's planned to go in gtk when it's ready. The dependencies of the server

Joyride and Update.2

2008-02-06 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello, is joyride open for Update.2 development? If not when do we plan to reopen it? Thanks, Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Association test

2008-02-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
This might be useful: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/NetworkManager/branches/nm-0-6-olpc/docs/NetworkManager%20DBUS%20API.txt?revision=2474view=markup Marco 2008/2/7 Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As part of the wireless test suite, I am writing a test script for the association process.

Re: Association test

2008-02-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Feb 8, 2008 11:30 AM, Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco, Thank you for the message. This seems to be the same we find at: http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/NetworkManager%20DBUS%20API.txt It does not seems updated or complete. I know, from a Dan Williams email,

Re: RPM packages for Sugar and activities and LiveCD

2008-02-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Alexander Todorov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I apologize if that's been asked before. I couldn't find RPM packages for Sugar or activities except a few made for personal use and hosted on the Internet. My intention is to create rpm package for

Re: RPM packages for Sugar and activities and LiveCD

2008-02-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Alexander Todorov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool, I've added some comments there. Can you please create a list of all packages/activities so we can keep track which of them have rpms and which don't? Commented on the ticket about that. If you feel like

Re: running commands on stop

2008-03-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Jerry Dunmire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to run commands when the Stop button on the ToolBar is pressed? I am working on an activity that starts a co-process and I want to terminate the co-process when the activity is stopped. Since I am new to

Re: Left Hand activity

2008-03-08 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/3/9 Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Charles - This sounds like a chunk of code that would fit nicely in the forthcoming Sugar Control Panel, which Simon (erikos) has recently started work on. I don't know the details, but I assume the control panel will be able to transparently assume

Re: Speech Synthesis Integration - User Interfaces and other Implementation Considerations

2008-03-09 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Hemant Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was thinking while the packaging of speech dispatcher continues I could finalize certain UI considerations for speech synthesis. I had a word with Tomeu and he advised me to write all the points in a mail to the list.

Re: Opening Browse programatically

2008-03-09 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Launching activities from another activity is currently not supported. There are security concerns which will have to be addressed. I hope to find time to look into this for Update.2. Marco On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Joshua Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to make a button in my

Re: Update.1 build status

2008-03-12 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/3/12 Dennis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There will not be a new build tonight. I need to know what sugar build we need pulled in. We need to have at least a patch applied for http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6671 and http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5933 I would be really nice to also have

Re: drawing, structured graphics

2008-03-13 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sayamindu, I think Victor is asking for something at a higher level of abstraction; particularly what goes by the name of a canvas in various toolkits. I thought we were using goocanvas, or something like that on top of

Re: lbgnomevfs warning

2008-03-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Victor Lazzarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, on launching an activity, say a bare one with just the activity toolbox and nothing else, I get these warnings in the log libgnomvfs-WARNING **: unable to create ~/.gnome2 directory ... I realise this

Re: who sets SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT?

2008-03-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM, Victor Lazzarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to work out how to access the correct directories for writing and I see that SUGAR_ACTIVITY_ROOT is supposedly where to look. However is it up to the activity to set this variable? I see that the

Re: Browse Preferences

2008-03-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Jacob Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know people are busy with Update.1, so forgive the random question. I would like to set up and use Tiddlywiki as my homepage on the OLPC. It is a Javascript-only wiki program. I am writing to ask about

Re: Browse Preferences

2008-03-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Jacob Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked at about:config, but did not see the setting. admittedly i have never used about:config, so i, just now, read up on it. used a version of portable firefox here on my computer to test how to add in this preference

Re: State of Update.1 on March 20, 2008

2008-03-21 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:39 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #6170 ???uwog(shared write crashes) #6407 ???marco (Write crashes when sharing and add an image) #6407 is probably a dup of #6170. #6170 should be PKG. uwog is going to build rpms. Marco

Re: Call for Papers/Talks/Ideas!

2008-03-22 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 8:32 AM, John R. Hogerhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on observing my daughter, it's not much of an issue with a USB mouse. But that's not the usual mode she works with the laptop. She pulls it off her shelf and sits on the couch with it on her lap. A mouse

Mini-Conference Proposal: desktop applications

2008-03-22 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Sugar breaks with the standard desktop metaphor by design and doing so it introduces incompatibilities at several levels. The barrier between activities and standard applications proved to be a critical problem in practice. Fortunately most of the current code base is using GNOME and freedesktop

Re: JS-Python Communication using PyXPCom

2008-03-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
There are also dbus bindings for javascript which are being developed, those would be very useful to integrate with the Sugar services. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Writing data on the XO

2008-03-29 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Urko Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've filled the application to host the project on the olpc git server a few days ago but didn't receive any response, shall I write another application or just wait? Cheers. I think it usually takes a few days for

Re: update.1 breaking wrapped activities?

2008-04-02 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Paul Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in a description of how non-sugar apps need some help to run properly under sugar, the current front page of OLPC News contains the following quote: ... there is some discussion that Update 1, a forthcoming upgrade

Re: [PATCH] Remove Ctrl-O (the letter oh) keyboard shortcut to fix #4646

2008-04-03 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Eben are you ok with this? On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- src/view/keyhandler.py |1 - 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/src/view/keyhandler.py b/src/view/keyhandler.py index

Re: RPMs and Activity bundles

2008-04-09 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
It depends on the contents of the rpm. In some cases you would need to rebuild... Marco On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am trying to construct an activity that is simple, but depends on a Fedora

Re: RPMs and Activity bundles

2008-04-09 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: | It depends on the contents of the rpm. In some cases you would need to | rebuild... | OK, how about instructions starting

Re: Notes from a Planning Session

2008-04-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/4/11 Carol Lerche [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thank you for sharing this discussion. Upon reading it I had two questions. Sugar. I have seen offers on this list from a class ofuniversity graduate students to do usability testing. Maybe someone responded to them privately. (That would have

Re: Usability testing

2008-04-11 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Carol Lerche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your reference argues not to start with usability tests before doing a design. This is not what I suggested, since sugar as a design is largely complete at this point. The article also. dismisses usability testing as

Re: PEAP Configuration on OLPC

2008-04-14 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
In Update.1 the user.js is inside rainbow managed directories and afaik he path is not predictable. You could add the proxy prefs to /usr/share/hulahop/prefs.js (note the use of pref there instead of user_pref). Marco On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:55 AM, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Battery life estimation considered impossible?

2008-04-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can anyone opine as to whether it's possible/feasible right now to estimate number of minutes of battery power remaining? You could look at gnome-power-manager, which performs a principled estimation -- a

Re: Battery life estimation considered impossible?

2008-04-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I *think* Richard mentioned that he planned to move the gnome-power-manager logic to OHM at some point. That would be excellent! I was going to look at g-p-m as Chris mentioned, on the off (ok, non-existent)

Re: More Planning Thoughts

2008-04-16 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Michael, In recognition of our limited measurement and release resources, we should concentrate our efforts on two minimally coupled topics... This seems pretty arbitrary and I'm not sure how you are coming to that conclusion. I think Greg provides great suggestions on how to reach consensus

Re: [PATCH] support battery-charge-state-dependent battery frame icon

2008-04-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I'm not the authoritative source on this, but I'll toss in my thoughts... Now... this is getting out of control... designer doing reviews... !?! :P (Thanks Eben) Marco ___

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Available at a wiki near you: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Plan_of_Record-2008/Draft_2 Making quick progresses, yay! A couple of thoughts about the release process: * Reducing the scope of the releases is a reasonable

Re: New Planning Thoughts draft.

2008-04-17 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see this too as a hard problem and don't really have experience neither. What I would expect is that working on frequent time-based releases with features slipping as needed works best for projects like linux distros,

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in fact there was a post within the last week claiming that it would be a bad idea to make sugar able to use unmodified linux software becouse that would mean that the educational software and activities being written for sugar

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody who implemented Sugar in the early days clearly didn't understand the X11 networked graphics model -- or didn't mind breaking it for expediency -- but they only broke it in small ways, which are pretty easily

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone would like to go ahead and try replacing matchbox with metacity, would be great ;) And I'd be happy to help out whoever attempts it both on the Sugar and on the wm/X side... :) Marco

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect we're using dbus in some places where we should just be using the normal ICCCM/EWMH conventions. Activities/applications can run fine without DBus right now. The main problem are a couple of non standard X

Re: [sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-28 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that this work (should be) the same, no matter what window manager we end up using. Window managers have been pretty interchangeable throughout X's history. That's what the ICCCM/EWMH's documents are all about. If

Re: What's up with sugar-jhbuild?

2008-05-05 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi James, did you update sugar-jhbuild itself (git pull)? There were some changes http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-April/005215.html That's not necessary, actually. sugar-jhbuild update itself on build.

Re: What's up with sugar-jhbuild?

2008-05-05 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Please open tickets about bugs you find... On mailing lists they will most likely ignored or forgot. Marco On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Urko Fernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With latest sugar-jhbuild, I can't download files with browser activity. This is what the logfile shows:

Re: Browser on the XO

2008-05-06 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/5/6 Ankita Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Tomeu, I am using fedora 7, and I don't want the sugar environment. I meant the firefox browser which is there on the XO. I want to ensure that the browser on my machine( i am developing an app with an embedded browser) is exactly th same as the

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ls ~/.sugar/default/datastore2/01/012beac5-9d4e-477e-848d-d7ef6a731fca/extra_metadata/ preview Are there still good reasons to keep the preview separate? If I remember correctly the main reason to

Re: very simple datastore reimplementation

2008-05-07 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Delta compression and version tracking. I think it would be interesting to have an estimate of the work/complexity involved in this. In particular I'd like to understand how it will affect activities. Do you think it would

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