github can be used as yum repo

2016-05-31 Thread Martin Langhoff
This might be of interest. OLPC has for a long time maintained sizable git repos to support OOB. For an unrelated project, I have just tested that the same thing can be achieved with github. For example, this repo: https://github.com/martin-langhoff/testfoo can be used as a yum repo with

Re: [UKids] re:new member

2016-04-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
As Sam says xo-1 screens will work on xo-4 touch units. Disassembly and reassembly of xo4 touch around the screen is delicate, careful with the touchscreen data cable. Over time we made small changes to the LCD screen but they don't make a big difference. They all fit all production units. hth,

Re: low battery shutdown

2016-02-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 9:12 AM, wrote: > When my XO 1.5 shows about 33% charge, the system shuts > down with no warning. This is normal behaviour? Not normal behaviour. It is consistent with a battery that has reached the end of its usable/reliable life _or_ a battery that has unbalanced cell

Re: [Server-devel] [support-gang] jffs2 vs ubifs vs ext4 space-efficiency question

2015-12-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 4:28 PM, James Cameron wrote: > Yes, jffs2 compresses data. That's why it is so slow. That's why SD > card is faster than it should be otherwise. +1 on James reply. Also a quick note: AIUI, jffs2 gets much of its storage advantage from better packing of directory structu

Re: [support-gang] [Sugar-devel] how to remove WiFi credential/history from Sugar?

2015-09-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
NM has this info somewhere. Play with nmcli to try find it, manipulate it. m On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > >> try: >> cd /etc >> sudo grep -R . >> > > It responds, as expected: > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/

Marco

2015-05-27 Thread Martin Langhoff
These lists are very quiet lately. But I know many of Marco's friends and acquaintances are still around. I read these sad news this morning: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2015-May/msg00027.html I am so sad. Somehow, having heard of his illness very long ago, I had thought or

Re: Touch Pad Double tap to select not working

2015-05-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
Then maybe this is a new variant of Sentelic board which only works partially with the driver in this kernel. This looks like a deep rabbit hole :-/ m On May 20, 2015 6:36 PM, "James Cameron" wrote: > Martin Langhoff wrote: > > James Cameron wrote: > > > It is eith

Re: Touch Pad Double tap to select not working

2015-05-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:04 AM, James Cameron wrote: > It is either new touchpad firmware, or newer touchpad than previous > touchpad. > > Or a new kernel. Is the protocol in use FSPPS/2 ? If not, kernel may be missing FSP support, and reverting to "classic" compat protocol. cheers, martin -

Re: Xubuntu on OLPC X-1

2014-06-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Hellaino, that is a fairly complex path, there are a few dozen important tweaks and configurations you need for it to run well. You can probably get Fedora with XFCE, which will be very similar for end users, by using OLPC's OS Builder (OOB) -- http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder If you real

Re: New camera sensor SIV121C

2014-06-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:38 PM, James Cameron wrote: > We have begun qualification of a new camera sensor SIV121C for > production of the XO-1.75 and XO-4 laptops. ... > The new sensor does a little bit better at low light levels, as a > result of a different analog to digital conversion method.

Minor changes to olpc-kbdshim and olpc-powerd

2014-05-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
>From bz traffic, I think these packages are in the process of changing to no longer auto-activate systemd services. Not sure which Fedora versions these updates will land in. olpc-os-builder should learn to activate them. I don't think F20 images work completely these days, I just wanted to menti

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:01 AM, John Watlington wrote: > The basic problem is that you need to be able to quickly modify the code > and test again. It is hard to beat an interactive language at doing that. Just got word from u-boot folks and Bunnie -- apparently the Novena board can boot off US

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:25 PM, John Watlington wrote: > > On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Jon Nettleton wrote: > >> Otherwise you really need a jtag debugger. > > Or Open Firmware --- by far the nicest bringup > tool I've ever had the pleasure to use. Yup. I'm learning OFW love alright with the k

Re: EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Mitch Bradley wrote: > That early work is very detailed and very specific to grotty details Fantastic info -- thanks! Part of the story I am exploring is of why someone would want an EC and a tiny early interactive runtime for debugging (i.e. during bring up). I

EC, CForth exploratory commands?

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi folks! Yesterday I ran a workshop covering some topics about hw development and mfg. Using a lot of material from Bunnie's blog, as well as from my time in the trenches. As part of it I tried -- and mostly failed -- to give folks a tour of early boot, using some old boards I have stashed. Here

Re: /proc/mounts missing on an XO-4 when using mock

2014-02-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 11:15 PM, James Cameron wrote: > Mock fails with an error; it cannot find /proc/mounts, presumably in > the chroot it has created. Using os.system('bash)' on the line above > the failure [2], I've proved that /proc is present but contains nothing, > and can't be mounted (-

Re: [Server-devel] Upgrade many machines

2014-01-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 7:33 PM, James Cameron wrote: > No reason, thanks for reminding me. I guess xs-rsync on the local > server? yep - oatslite to send the upgrade msg - XOs need to be registered - xs-rsync to host the new img There are several possible gotchas I have not thought through,

Re: [Server-devel] Upgrade many machines

2014-01-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 2:06 AM, James Cameron wrote: > Summary: use a few USB drives or NANDblaster, not the server. Note that if preserving user data and apps is desired, USB drives / NANDBlaster isn't that good. Any reason you are not mentioning the olpc-update path? m -- martin.langh...

Re: The mouse touch pad doesn't work on XO4

2013-12-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Basanta Shrestha wrote: > yes it works! But the value goes back to original ie. '1' after reboot and > /etc/rc.local doesn't work here. It works, but it will get overridden by olpc-configure which runs later. Change olpc-configure, or run your fixup after olpc-co

Re: [Sugar-devel] Private vs Public conversations.

2013-10-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM, David Farning wrote: > I would like to thank everyone who has provided valuable feedback by > participating on this thread. Ahem. You are casting fugly accusations, you can't stand back and thank everyone for their valuable feedback. > 2. Martin's point about th

Re: [Sugar-devel] Private vs Public conversations.

2013-10-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:14 PM, David Farning wrote: > In a private conversation with an Association employee they told me > that they conciser Activity Central a competitor because Activity > Central increased deployments expectations. Their strategy with regard > to Activity Central was to _not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Private vs Public conversations.

2013-10-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM, David Farning > wrote: >> I just wanted to bump this line of questions as, it is the critical > > I don't speak on behalf of the Association, but I think your positions > are overstated. As far as I know, t

Re: Android on the XO-4

2013-10-09 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:08 PM, John Watlington wrote: > It is I who need to apologize. This information was first communicated > to me around a week ago and I hadn't shared it properly. It's great news. > On a more promising note, Jon Nettleton reported on IRC that he > made progress in getti

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Central's Sugar related priorities.

2013-10-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM, David Farning wrote: > As a more incremental approach, Activity Central will continue our > deployment-centric work by porting Dextrose to Ubuntu. >From a "deploy to XOs PoV" that sounds like a ton of work. You'll grind against a lot of little problems. Fedora is

Re: flash/marvell-ipp

2013-09-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote: > I have never been in any conversations with anyone that new the actual > licensing for the Adobe Flash binary. (Note: I am no longer affiliated w OLPC in any way.) -- if you want to distribute Flash binaries, Adobe has a series of forms on t

Re: olpc-os-builder

2013-08-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM, James Cameron wrote: >> Yes. I would prefer if olpc-os-builder could operate in two modes; >> one where it did all the downloads, and a separate one where it can be >> used offline. This is what I did for mk

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable

2013-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > Good to hear from you Martin. Just to finish this thread off, I was not able > to reproduce this behavior with the XO-1s that I have. This appears to > affect Anna's machines only. Thanks for the hints to what might be the root > cause. Thanks

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [XSCE] Re: Client side Moodle transparent auth broken in 13.2.0 stable

2013-08-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > This behavior was noted with XO-1s only, all others(1.5,1.75,4) appear work > fine in testing. That is _very_ weird. Does the affected unit have any problem reading its own serial number or uuid? Does the Sugar Control Panel show the serial num

Re: XO-1(.75)

2013-07-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:10 PM, James Cameron wrote: > versions, the comparison is uninteresting. +1 -- we got some performance gains in drivers... and we lost some performance in the GTK3 PyGI battle. So it is paramount to compare matched sw versions. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com - ask

Re: resurrected XO-1.5, died again

2013-07-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote: >> Yes. ;-) >> > Oh, good. That clears it then. > Thanks for the insight :-P Perhaps repeated torsion on the board is one of the factors at play. You may get a longer life out of it by ensuring that the unit is tightly assembled (speci

Re: Aggressive screen blanking with 13.1.0 build 35

2013-04-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:22 AM, Tom Parker wrote: > Do you have an early prototype XO-1.75 with no DCON memory? We have at least > one of these and the normal automatic power management is very disruptive as > you loose the display (the backlight remains on however). Good spotting. I bet that's

Re: OS Builder output img ?

2013-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Lionel, your questions in recent emails lack some background -- specifically, on how the XOs are configured. Without that info, we can give you many different answers because it all depends on how the XOs are configured. Can you tell us the output of .mfg-data for the laptops you are targettin

Re: Customize default language with OS Builder

2013-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Lionel, the right way for this is to have the correct language set in the manufacturing data in the XO laptops. If you have this set right (and you probably do already), then just include french in the build, and on first boot the laptop will pick up the right default. Boot one of your XOs, pr

Re: minimizing footprint

2013-03-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Paul, On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > but when systemd falls out of favor in a year or two we'll just have > to change things again -- either to something new, or back to cron Not sure whether you're stating that straight or facetiously. Systemd has some shortcomings, but

Re: Changing track

2013-03-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
ew life and sail! IF you are in this side of the worldfor > holiday/work do contact me! > > Cheers > > > --- > From: Martin Langhoff > To: Devel List > Subject: Changing track > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >

Changing track

2013-03-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hello devel! I haven't been posting here often enough. After a year of enormous effort, we are approaching start of mass production with XO-4. It is time for me to announce my departure from OLPC. My work at OLPC has been a demanding one and I have given it all my energy. But I have a young famil

Re: Playing video on Sugar startup with VMETA

2013-02-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan > wrote: >> We're trying to make XO-1.75s play quality video on Sugar startup. Our >> solution involves installing the VMETA software on 12.1.0 and then >&g

Re: Playing video on Sugar startup with VMETA

2013-02-26 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > We're trying to make XO-1.75s play quality video on Sugar startup. Our > solution involves installing the VMETA software on 12.1.0 and then > loading the video in Totem using the Welcome activity hook in Sugar. Calling in Totem seems li

Re: Query regarding "xorg-x11-drv-dove" package, on XO-4

2013-02-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Thanks for the report! Jon Nettlelton is working on that particular driver, and there was a big overhaul that landed in OS29. Could you create a ticket on dev.laptop.org, against 13.1.0? This has nothing to do with Sugar itself... thanks! m On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Ajay Garg wrote:

Re: 13.1.0 build 29 for XO-4 released

2013-02-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Gary Martin wrote: >> This is a known issue. Next release will have a better fix. > > Does this fix also resolve the small random graphic corruptions to the first > boot welcome content? AIUI, Jon is working on sorting all the corruption fixes he can, so the answ

Re: OOB + signature

2013-02-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Rafael Ortiz wrote: > and how its resulting files are signed (for instance the content manifest > file, specifically for the upgrade files), OOB uses some method when the > signature module is activated ?, you have to sing them in an special way?. If you have the s

Re: What I have to do for the same?

2013-02-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
If you are using Sugar, you can also disable power management from the control panel. cheers, m On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, wrote: > Hi, > I have a simple question: > when I use my XO-1, if I do nothing, after 15 sec, it changes to a > middle-suspend : only the screen isn't off. > So wha

Re: XO-4 teardown

2013-02-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > Now that the XO-4 was featured at CES, is it ok to post teardown > photos? Is anyone else planning to do this? Sure, go for it. :-D m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questio

Re: XO-4 not resuming after suspend

2013-02-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
at 11:33 AM, Emiliano Pastorino wrote: > It does have an 8686. > I've "rmmod'ed" libertas_sdio and libertas. It seems to be doing fine now. > I've already resumed several times after suspend, no more hangs. > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Martin Lang

Re: XO-4 not resuming after suspend

2013-02-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
Does it have an 8686 (loads libertas driver) or an 8787 (loads mwifiex* drivers). Does it get better if you blacklist the wlan drivers, ensuring they don't get loaded? You won't have wlan, of course... At this point, XO-4 with 8787 is very stable for us, so if it has 8787, your report is a surpri

Re: Cameras not working on XO-1s

2013-01-31 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:39 PM, John Watlington wrote: > in 2010 (IIRC) to fix this, and there is a simple preventative measure to > prevent it from happening > on older machines (adding two pieces of cellulose tape to the right place on > the motherboard.) > Details and the fix are at http://d

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

2013-01-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > Write does not know what is the ebook switch state, that logic is in the > osk. And that's correct. ebook mode is one reason to show the OSK. There are other reasons -- for example, - accesibility - typing in a different language from

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking onto the "appearing" and "hiding" of OSK

2013-01-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Paul Fox wrote: > i believe sugar already has code to detect the two modes, since > that's how it knows whether to present the OSK or not. Yep. Ajay, I think Write shows you the way :-) m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect

Re: 13.1.0 release candidate 3 (build 22) released

2013-01-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: > $ sudo yum install git > Error: cannot retrive metalink for repository: fedora/18/armfp. Please > verify its path and try again these are transient errors with Fedora's mirroring system. Earlier today I installed a bunch of stuff on a fresh

Re: [TRANSIENT] Peer XOs NOT shown in Neighborhood view when Power Management is enabled

2012-12-19 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Jerry Vonau wrote: > Think I found the problem, in powerd we're setting WOL based on this > string: > > if grep -qi ": :14B2" /proc/net/tcp > > but that string is not present in /proc/net/tcp so WOL is not set > according to ethtool, but that string can be

Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)

2012-12-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
: > Thanks, Martin. Btw, where did you deduce the name "Rajiv" from? :) > > RJv > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> >> Implement a shell -- replacing the standard Android shell -- that >> has the main features of Sugar sh

Re: Porting Sugar on Android (Ice cream sandwich)

2012-12-11 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Rajiv, your plan seems to have good goals, but is missing some understanding of what you can and cannot do. You cannot run Sugar (a Python-based window manager, based on traditional Linux sw stack) on the Android stack. Way too different. To reach your goals, however, you could try something

Re: Will the XO-4 need nonfree firmware

2012-12-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Richard! On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > They would need to get an external USB network device. Are there completely free USB network devices, from your PoV? > If someone sells them without the card (NOT with the card separately > packaged), under another name, and

Re: Major bugs for "Software-Update"

2012-11-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Ajay Garg wrote: > http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4274 > http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4275 Looks like I can play this game too :-/ # 4281 - Activity updater - crashes updating activity m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Archite

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote: >> is there a way to block suspend when a class of USB device is plugged? > > This will be very important.. Disable the "automatic power-save" (AKA power > off usb..) It is already done in many cases. > if one device is using the u

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:40 AM, James Cameron wrote: >> I don't think having an end-user with no experience with USB IDs add >> an entry to the usb-inhibits file, or having to remember to turn off >> a major feature is the correct long term solution IMHO. You guys are driving OOB, so you short-t

Re: [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised

2012-11-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
Ajay, folks, please indicate OS version, XO model, steps to repro (even if intermittent), and collect kernel logs so we can see WTH is going on. Otherwise we can only say "maybe" and speculate -- good stuff for idle converstation at a bar, but not productive if you want to see the problem diagnos

Boot cycle systemd service

2012-11-19 Thread Martin Langhoff
adding "sleep 10; reboot" at the end of local.rc doesn't work anymore in this brave new systemd world. http://bec-systems.com/site/942/running-a-reboot-cycle-test-shell-script-with-systemd m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted

Re: Renaming the Telescope activity to Scope

2012-11-19 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Chris Leonard wrote: > As I recall, this activity was already renamed once from xoscope after > it became clear it was colliding in name space with an oscilloscpe > activity. Renames are a pain in infrastructure, and in upgrade handling for users. I would say pr

Re: [FEATURE-BROKEN] "Send to Friend" feature not working in os11

2012-11-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
How about filing a bug? :-) m On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Ajay Garg wrote: > Hi all. > > On XO-1.75s, os11 image, the "Send to Friend" feature isn't working. > > Is it a known issue? > Doing a simple textual "send to" search on bugs.sugarlabs.org did not yield > anything useful. > > > Reg

Re: [Sugar-devel] Multi-touch test activity

2012-11-06 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > Ah, thanks. I wasn't even going to file a bug report about the aliasing > because that is a limitation inherent to the kind of sensor we have. There are of course limitations, but we are in the process of tuning and tightening things on t

Re: OwNet

2012-11-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Martin Lipták wrote: > We are a group of students from the Slovak University of Technology. Last > year we took part in an international competition called Imagine Cup. We > created an application, called OwNet, that enables users with poor Internet > connection bro

Re: XO-1.5's sudden death - oven resurrected!

2012-10-17 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:59 AM, wrote: > I've given multiple machines to anna to 'bake'. To add a colorful note here, the oven where the motherboards are baked in at production have a lot in common with the ovens at fast-food pizzerias I have seen in the US. A conveyor belt, a long oven with g

Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

2012-10-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> Also, if you find you have no disk space free, please make yourself >> heard at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12150 > > Martin was this still an issue on os5? Yes. But it's hit and miss, and still unclear to me whether it's more likely on sp

Re: Testing XO-4

2012-10-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 7:12 PM, S. Daniel Francis wrote: > 2012/10/12 S. Daniel Francis : >> Some notes and bugs. I'll not classify them: > - [Critical] The light which indicates the computer is turned on doesn't > shine. Interesting! If you remove the power plug, remove the battery and then pu

Re: 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

2012-10-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > The "ball? What ball?" release. > > THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE Users on XO-4 need to be aware of lots of limitations -- no suspend/resume, no audio, etc. We need a quick status page for this :-/ Also, if you find you have no disk space f

Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

2012-10-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Gary Martin wrote: > Armenia has been raised as one possible extra, but not yet confirmed. We definitely have a deployment in Armenia, and it is bilingual Armenian and Russian. Physical keyboard layout is Armenian, IIRC. I'd liketo have both langs. > Perhaps once

Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

2012-10-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > Not yet, all the layouts are in and gtk2 works now Installed, quick test. You're right, the ebook trigger isn't happening. And I cannot type with it -- Write won't show input from the OSK, home view search box won't show input from OSK. The

Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

2012-10-07 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > #12082 Maliit on-screen keyboard Yay!!! Is the evdev trickery all hooked up? Does ebook mode DTRT? cheers, m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - w

Re: Linux 3.7 Kernel To Support Multiple ARM Platforms - Slashdot

2012-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > It supports basically 3 usable platforms at the moment, and likely not In summary... first step in a longish road. All ARM SoCs are quirky and non-discoverable (no PnP-style bus architecture). The path leads to a generic kernel that can read

Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 4 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

2012-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > This is the first release adding support for the XO-4 On XO-4, I found that the resize process does not complete, so installing stuff is... awkward. Seems to hit 100% of the time for me. A quick workaround is to reboot and run resize2fs /

Re: qemu & wine experiments on ARM

2012-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote: > This can't be that difficult will just take some more poking I think Maybe, and maybe not. The comments in this thread http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.qemu/113828 and discussion in https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/668799

Re: qemu & wine experiments on ARM

2012-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Jon Nettleton wrote: > I have tested that patch already and it does not fix it with the current > codebase. I believe you need to get qemu 0.14.1 to use that patch for > success. Oh, grumble -- the discussion around it in the ml was not encouraging. It's not the

Re: qemu & wine experiments on ARM

2012-10-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > [reuben@koji3 ~]$ proot -Q wine/qemu-i386 mock/ > proot info: started > sh-4.2$ ls > sh: fork: Invalid argument > sh-4.2$ ok, so that's the fork . Avenues I can suggest. - The proot folks have their own (old) qemu-user rpms. Maybe there's

Re: qemu & wine experiments on ARM

2012-10-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Qemu's "user-mode" is a lot more practical. We would need a minimal > fedora x86 chroot that has wine, and use qemu over that. After a bit > of googling, I found PRoot, which seems to provide the right glue to

qemu & wine experiments on ARM

2012-10-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
Just a quick outline of one experiment to see if simple Win32 "content-ware" apps can be run. Commands may be missing switches, options and steps. Caveat reader. BYO smarts. On x87 host F17 - install livecd-tools spin-kickstarts - copy fedora-live-mini.ks, add wine -- remove some stuff - sudo s

Re: Query regarding "bootfw.zip" for upgrading-firmware on XO-1.75

2012-10-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Ajay Garg wrote: > As per http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Upgrading_firmware, we need the bootfw.zip > for upgrading firmware (for XO-1.75 too I guess). > However, when I look into the links (for eg. > http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q4d18/), I do not see any bootfw.zi

Re: upowerd mystery of the day

2012-10-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > I don't know anything that would have changed this. But I do remember > checking this when I saw the bug roll by, and I couldn't see the > issue. I thought I might have been looking at the wrong log or > something. I've just checked with 1.5 a

upowerd mystery of the day

2012-10-03 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Daniel, folks, weird question of the day -- in the 12.1.0 series, have we fixed anything that should affect how upower works indirectly? While I was looking at our battery icon in Gnome, ~4 months ago, I spotted upower spamming our logs because it could not find /proc/timer_stats, with 6 messa

Re: OLPC build creation failed

2012-10-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Jose Prous wrote: > Now the problem is signing the build. But it looks like bios-crypto doesn't > work with arm. It does work on ARM. There's one for soft FP (if you are building 11.3.x from a F14 system) here http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/bios-crypto-v0.5-44-g89dd

Re: Full-Duplex-(Sound)-mode in XO-1.75

2012-10-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:04 AM, Ajay Garg wrote: > However, when I repeat the process on an XO-1.75, I do not hear back any > sound. This is a current limitation of XO-1.75 audio drivers. We are working hard to address it. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software

Re: Fixing GNOME3 "regressions" in 13.1.0

2012-09-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: > Two things that came to mind were: The missing "Switch to Sugar" icon > on the Desktop (as in GNOME 2). Even when saving files to Desktop, > these don't show up in GNOME 3 Desktop. Yep, that's what this request is about. > The other is the d

Re: Fixing GNOME3 "regressions" in 13.1.0

2012-09-22 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Martin Langhoff > wrote: >> Yes, that's what I am proposing, and yes, I think we want it. > > Ok, please write a bit of justification/reasoning on the ticket and > I'll go ahe

Re: Fixing GNOME3 "regressions" in 13.1.0

2012-09-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > Its not really clear what they want on that ticket. If they just want > the nautilus-driven desktop back, its easily doable. I believe that that's what they want. Others have definitely complained about the regressions (or "lockdown") of our

Fixing GNOME3 "regressions" in 13.1.0

2012-09-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Last week, we heard feedback on 12.1.0 from a deployment, asking "why did you lock down GNOME so much? it's unusable!". Today, I see this bug report, essentially pointing out 'regressions' in our GNOME desktop - http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12118 I am planning to install gnome-tweak-tool, see wha

Re: Jabber 2.1.5 on Debian6 and OS885

2012-09-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Franco Miceli wrote: > I've been trying to get ejabberd 2.1.5 to work with some XOs with OLPC OS855 > image. > > I have followed the instructions on > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Installing_ejabberd/deb, configured the DN on the > XOs but they keep talking salut (ol

Re: OLPC build creation failed

2012-09-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Martin Abente wrote: > Have anyone actually tried to emulate? Not that I know. But I would expect it to be ~10x slower than on an XO-1.75. And better hw should be available in the coming months, and affordable (<$200). m -- mar...@laptop.org -- Software Archi

Re: OLPC build creation failed

2012-09-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:51 PM, John Gilmore wrote: > Instead, you should fix OOB so it works to cross-compile. Unfortunately, OOB is just a nice wrapper around anaconda and rpm. You cannot cross-build because - The anaconda toolchain does not have a good separation of environment arch vs targ

Re: OLPC build creation failed

2012-09-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Jose Prous wrote: > Yes it's a x86 machine, I guess that is the problem. Thanks. Glad that we found the reason. We should add an explicit check in OOB that gives you a more useful error msg. Compared with x86 builders, an XO-1.75 is fairly slow, and getting fast

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem downloading a lease.sig file on an XO

2012-09-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: >> 1. Is there a security problem/concern with having our project's lease.sig >> file publicly available? (we only generate activations for non-stolen XOs) Should be ok, as long as you're comfortable with the validity period (ie: not too lo

Re: OLPC build creation failed

2012-09-13 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Jose Prous wrote: > Hello, I'm José Prous from Paraguay Educa. > > I'm trying compile an OLPC build for the XO 1.75. > > I followed the instructions in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder What is your build host machine? Is it an XO-1.75, or otherwise an ARM comp

Re: Backporting 3.6 USB/EHCI fixes for XO-1

2012-09-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > Anyway, a load of work landed in Linux 3.6 to address this, to make > the EHCI driver more resilient to odd hardware. Backporting to 3.3 is > very simple, and fixes the problem. The commits in question are: +1, though IANAKD so dilute it appr

Re: Shipping bigger fonts by default for greater glyph coverage

2012-09-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: >> This will increase the base uncompressed OS size by about 6mb. > IMHO, this is tiny compared to the tradeoff at hand. I mean tiny compared to the benefit. The tradeoff is completely desirable... m -- martin.langh...@gmail

Re: Shipping bigger fonts by default for greater glyph coverage

2012-09-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > So we're planning to ship the full DejaVu font set by default on all Yes please! I made a half-hearted attempt at pushing for this in 12.1.0 cycle, and dropped the ball halfway. > This will increase the base uncompressed OS size by about 6mb.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems starting the XO

2012-09-04 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Ajay Garg wrote: > May be this could be improved sometime in the future :) Fix the packaging, and don't use --force. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny s

Re: Announcing OLPC OS 12.1.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-09-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > We're pleased to announce the release of OLPC OS 12.1.0 for XO-1, > XO-1.5 and XO-1.75. Details of new features, known issues, and how to Congrats to all the team! Good press coverage at http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/02/olpc-delivers-big-os

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems starting the XO

2012-09-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Ajay Garg wrote: > Thanks Chris and Mikus for the replies. Hi Ajay, please ansert cjb's question. It has a good chance of leading to your answer. What deps are you ignoring? Why --force? Also -- /var/log/olpc-dm* logs are likely to have important info. Please pos

Re: First pass at DT-probed mmp-camera

2012-08-29 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > In the end it turns out it does make sense for the sensor (accessible > under /camera-i2c) and the camera (/camera) to be separate. > But Mitch identified the optimal DT layout where the sensor is defined > in the DT at /camera-i2c/image-senso

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > You are correct, the switch to systemd means we no longer sync from > system clock to hw clock. I spotted that early, and documented it in > the release notes: > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/12.1.0#Base_system I&

Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?

2012-08-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > qu...@laptop.org said: >> "date" followed by a successful normal shutdown should work, because a >> normal shutdown runs hwclock ... but "hwclock --systohc" is handy in case >> you aren't sure that a normal shutdown will happen next. > > It used

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