Re: #1574 HIGH BTest-4: sugar activities not working well when low power

2007-05-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
You can downgrade the operating system without downgrading the firmware. Instructions: a) Download the 385 NAND image file from http://olpc.download.redhat.com/olpc/streams/development/build385/devel_jffs2/olpc-redhat-stream-development-build-385-20070406_2306-devel_jffs2.img b) Copy that file

System Software Teleconference Minutes, 2007-06-05

2007-06-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
System Software Teleconference Minutes, 2007-06-05 Mitch, Richard, Zephaniah, Jim, Jordan, Vance, David, Luna, Wad, Andres, Kim, ... http://dev.laptop.org/roadmap is now active - it is reachable from the front page of the wiki. Check it for current status on upcoming builds. This is now the ma

Software status teleconference meeting minutes

2007-06-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
System Software Telecon. 2007-06-12 Kim, Bryan, Vance, Luna, Richard, J5, Jim, Wad, Chris Ball SW for B4 build 406.10 - has everything but new AMD X driver - that will go in tomorrow (406.11) 406.11 will be the B4 production build. We must upgrade the software after B4 build but before the

Re: OLPC battery class

2007-06-20 Thread Mitch Bradley
David Woodhouse wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 16:57 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > Hmm. I'm not completely convinced (are there any ac adapters that report temperature current or voltage?) >>> I don't have any. They certainly exist in high-end machines though. And >>> e

Re: A different proposal for XO upgrade.

2007-06-26 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On 6/26/07, Mike C. Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You've just described BitTorrent, if I'm not missing something. It's >> > > Hmm, that is interesting. I hadn't made the connection. I don't > think bittorrent supports symlinks, hardlinks, permissions,

Re: Shutdown after resume using power button

2007-07-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
Jordan Crouse wrote: > >> Jordan, >> >> I remember you mentioned that reading PM1_STS might be unreliable... >> Can you shed more light into the issue? >> > > Hmm - I don't remember that. PM1_STS should be reliable at this point, > assuming nobody has touched it since we resumed. > I t

Re: cafe_ccic slowness in VIDIOC_S_FMT

2007-07-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
In the OFW CaFe camera driver's I2C code, there is a 1 ms delay after observing that one of bits 18,17,16 is set in the RAW IRQ Status Register (offset 0x28). Additionally, in the case of an I2C write, there is another 2 ms delay before beginning to pool those bits. I don't know how Lilian der

Re: cafe_ccic slowness in VIDIOC_S_FMT

2007-07-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
David Woodhouse wrote: > On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 15:04 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > >> David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Do we have a coherent explanation of these problems in the datasheet >>> and/or errata? Are they planned to be fixed in a future version of the >>> CA

Re: suspend-to-disk

2007-07-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
Andres Salomon wrote: > ... > > Implementation questions: > > I'm not going to concern myself with our B1s, for they have more ram > and less nand. Our B2s have 128MB of ram, and 512MB of nand; B3s and > up have 256MB of ram, and 1GB of nand. We need to figure out just > how much space we'd need

Re: suspend-to-disk

2007-07-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > Jordan Crouse wrote: > > >> I agree - the suspend to disk code in Linux is already quite mature and >> ready for use - it only saves the pages it needs to. The question here >> isn't so much how to implement STD, since the concepts are pretty well >> understood - but

Re: suspend-to-disk

2007-07-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > Mitch Bradley wrote: > >> We probably don't want to store the data in JFFS2. Better to >> partition the NAND FLASH. > > Partitioning makes things easier, but it's a big waste of space. > Ideally, one should be able to fill the flas

Re: Early boot, activation, upgrades

2007-07-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On 7/9/07, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I looked at those git trees and didn't see the python runtime stuff in >> the initramfs tree. How does it get included, and how big is it? >> > > Package

Re: Early boot, activation, upgrades

2007-07-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On 7/9/07, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> At that 3M size, I'm beginning to have second thoughts about the "one >> initrd for both activation and normal booting" idea. A busybox >> (statically linked with ucl

Re: Early boot, activation, upgrades

2007-07-10 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:46 AM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: >> Can't we just SHA1 the kernel+initrd bundle and sign the hash? SHA1 >> should be fast enough... > > The hashes we have available in OFW through the LTC code are Whirlpool > and SHA-512. It's non-trivial to amend the list

Re: Early boot, activation, upgrades

2007-07-10 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On 7/10/07, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In particular, the current code does: >> Hashes file data with whirlpool >> Hashes file data with SHA-512 >> Verifies RSA signature against whirlpool hash >> Verifies RSA sig

Re: Early boot, activation, upgrades

2007-07-10 Thread Mitch Bradley
Whirlpool takes 1.16 sec/MiB. SHA512 takes 0.42 sec/MiB (on a preB3, i.e. an LX CPU). ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Early boot, activation, upgrades

2007-07-10 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Jul 10, 2007, at 4:00 PM, NoiseEHC wrote: > >> There is an MMX WHIRLPOOL version in cripto++. Are you using that? >> > > We had to optimize for code size, and the only suitably licensed > library we could find that would let us squeeze all four primitives > into

Re: Early boot, activation, upgrades

2007-07-10 Thread Mitch Bradley
Complete timings for bios_crypto on LX: Whirlpool: 1.16 sec / MiB SHA512: 0.42 sec / MiB RSA verification: 0.025 sec / hash ECC verification: 1.13 sec / hash Combined time for verifying 1MiB firmware image is 1.16 + 0.42 + 2*0.025 + 2*1.13 ~= 3.9 sec. That is 2.3 sec fixed + 1.6 sec / MiB

Re: Early boot, activation, upgrades

2007-07-11 Thread Mitch Bradley
Timings for OFW access to JFFS2 files in NAND FLASH: First access (scanning NAND to create memory index of nodes): 7 seconds Subsequent accesses: 0.5 seconds fixed + 0.5 sec / MiB (approximately) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://l

Re: Early boot, activation, upgrades

2007-07-11 Thread Mitch Bradley
More benchmarks for bios_crypto on LX: Whirlpool: 1.16 sec / MiB SHA512: 0.42 sec / MiB SHA256: 0.28 sec / MiB <<--- New result (SHA256 is 1.5x the speed of SHA512) RSA verification: 0.025 sec / hash ECC521 verification: 1.13 sec / hash ECC256 verification: 0.31 sec / hash <<--- N

Diskless NAND and firmware updates

2007-07-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
Developers may find this useful: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Network_copy-nand ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

System software teleconference meeting minutes - 2007-07-17

2007-07-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
OLPC System Software Teleconference, 2007-07-17 Participants: wad, kim, wmb, jg, Victor, Scott, rsmith, richard, David Lin, shenki, cjb == Status == Kim, Wad, and Jim got shared chat, text editor, and games working via the mesh on the train. Mitch is close to having Forth running on the EC.

Re: System software teleconference meeting minutes - 2007-07-17

2007-07-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > Hi, > > On 18.07.2007 04:25, Mitch Bradley wrote: > >> OLPC System Software Teleconference, 2007-07-17 >> Mitch is close to having Forth running on the EC. >> > > Is this on the opensource EC code? > It is one pos

Re: Automated testing of activities

2007-07-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
Kent Quirk wrote: > Is automated testing intended for more than just battery life testing? > If not, is it really necessary for every activity to support it? If so, > what do you expect to accomplish? Will it actually save more than the > amount of time taken to implement it for a given activity

Re: "Could not activate this XO" error

2007-07-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
Kim Quirk wrote: > I don't recommend that your rename your nand to a higher build number > than it actually is just to avoid a downgrade. You may never be able > to catch up (or catch back down to the proper version). > Renaming the installation file does not change the version number that is a

Re: "Could not activate this XO" error

2007-07-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
olpc.fth . Be sure to respect the 8.3 limitation on the filename - nand6 will fail on a FAT filesystem. > > Thanks, > Kim > > On 7/22/07, *Mitch Bradley* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > wrote: > > Kim Quirk wrote: > >

Re: First impressions of a B4 machine

2007-07-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ivan Krstić wrote: > > There's a fastboot version of the firmware that can boot the machine > in 3-4 seconds. The boot time, as we get closer to production, will > start shrinking towards those numbers. > That counts only the time it takes for the firmware to load the Linux kernel into mem

Re: Location of Open Firmware BIOS Source code

2007-07-24 Thread Mitch Bradley
It's in Subversion at svn://openbios.org/openfirmware . Edward J. Krohne wrote: > > To All, > > Can anyone help me find the location of the OFW source code? The link > on the git page on the OLPC web site is empty (e.g. not committed). > > In the trac database, it is mentioned that the source /is

Re: Why need Q2C19 while upgrade build from 536 to 537

2007-07-27 Thread Mitch Bradley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, folks: > > While I upgrade build image from 536 to 537 using the > autoreinstallation procedure from USB key, > > I saw“ unmounting root(this will take a while, unless you've got > firmware Q2C19)”in the scrolling booting message, > > as the description said, it hal

Re: Game and Directional pad input question.

2007-08-10 Thread Mitch Bradley
Edward J. Krohne wrote: > > You folks have been very helpful before, so I have another question I > need answered as soon as possible. > > > > I have seen that the Game Pad and Directional Pad switches are scanned > and read by the EC. There appears to be a driver for the EC that > issues a co

Re: some first impressions

2007-08-11 Thread Mitch Bradley
Hal Murray wrote: >> - some parallel port (or similar) should be made available, for >> children to play with in physics. I remember playing with a PC >> parallel port with some simple software to turn leds on and off. When >> you are a kid, being able to send commands to projects you create is >>

Re: Create CRC file

2007-08-14 Thread Mitch Bradley
Juliano Bittencourt wrote: > Hi, > > I need some help to create the crc file of the OS image. I created a > customized image file for the trial school in Porto Alegre. But now I'm > having problems trying to figure out how to create the crc file. > Any help will be appreciated. >

Re: Draft manifest format specification.

2007-08-14 Thread Mitch Bradley
Albert Cahalan wrote: > > For linking > within a bundle, the easy answer is to STOP USING ZIP. At least > allow a standard Linux archiver (tar, cpio, or pax) as an alternative > to that crufty old DOS archiver. zip is younger than either tar or cpio, so "old" is an invalid criticism. And I rejec

Re: some first impressions

2007-08-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > Arjun, > > >> 1) eToys: >> It would be very nice to have support for Analog Input in eToys. >> >> You could use my code - >> >> See >> http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/measure;a=blob_plain;f=audioGrab.py;hb=HEAD >> (getting samples) >> >> and >> http://dev.laptop.o

Re: some first impressions

2007-08-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > Mitch, > > >>> Thank you. As I wrote on http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2800, what we >>> would like to have is C functions. Then, I can wrap them as Squeak >>> primitives. Probably I can just rip these functions from amixer, but >>> if you can tell me which, that wo

Re: some first impressions

2007-08-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
> It might be nice if there were a driver to access the GPIO, but I didn't > see one in a quick scan of the kernel source. > It turns out that there is a GPIO driver - the source is in char/drivers/cs5535_gpio.c - and it is available as a kernel module: modprobe cs5535_gpio However, nobod

Re: some first impressions

2007-08-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
iver support. >- Jim > > > On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 09:24 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote: > >> Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: >> >>> Mitch, >>> >>> >>> >>>>> Thank you. As I wrote on http://dev.laptop.org/tick

Re: some first impressions

2007-08-18 Thread Mitch Bradley
Yuan Chao wrote: > On 8/18/07, Guylhem Aznar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Jim said the SD port was not for removable media use - I fully >> But then the current slot is not fulfilling either goals. It's hard to >> use, and still open for the water to get it. Maybe the plastic could >>

Q2C24 bricks B2s

2007-08-19 Thread Mitch Bradley
Q2C24 bricks B2 machines. Don't use it. Q2C25 has been released, which fixes that problem. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2c25 Q2C24 has been removed from the download site, and the links to the version of olpc-auto.zip that contains Q2C24 have been broken - at least the ones I fou

System Software Teleconference Meeting Minutes - 2007-08-21

2007-08-21 Thread Mitch Bradley
OLPC System Software Teleconference, 2007-08-21 Participants: Jim, Mitch, Jordan, Chris Ball, Quanta, Andres, wad, J5, Noah, kim, Joel, richard == Status == Action items from last week: #1396 -- We're waiting on the problem with keyboard repeat events. * AI: Richard to get us a release firmwar

Re:

2007-08-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
Mike Usmar wrote: > OK, hopefully this is an easy question I want to upgrade to build 542, and > have the downloaded and un zipped to a UDB drive in boot the olpc-auto.zip, > and the latest OS image and .crc file, so in the boot directory I have 6 > files q2c24.rom; os542.img; os542.crc; usbupgos.

Re:

2007-08-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
In any case, the recipe to fix it is to do the firmware upgrade first, manually: ok flash /usb/disk:\boot\q2c25.rom After that you will have up-to-date firmware and the rest of the installation will probably go smoothly. Mike Usmar wrote: > OK, hopefully this is an easy question I want to up

Re: BIOS prompt at q2c25 + B2?

2007-08-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: > How do I enter the BIOS prompt on q2c25? > It seems I can no longer use ESC tryied other buttons too > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > http://wiki.lap

Re: Questions on LinuxBIOS and OpenFirmware

2007-08-24 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ivan Krstić wrote: > On Aug 24, 2007, at 7:25 AM, Kein Yuan wrote: > > >> So in short words, OLPC is using LinuxBIOS to do low level HW init, >> then transfer control to OFW, which also acting as boot loader to >> load Linux OS, right? >> > > Correct. > Sorry, not correct. LinuxBIOS

Re: Unable to update my machine

2007-08-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
The problem is ostensibly fixed in a new version of firmware that will be released in the next couple of days. The problem is actually a little more complicated than having a partition table or not. There was a situation where a disk could appear to both have a partition table, and also have a

Teleconference minutes

2007-09-04 Thread Mitch Bradley
OLPC System Software Teleconference, 2007-09-04 Participants: Jim, Mitch, Richard, Kim, Quanta, Bernie, J5, cjb, Michael == Status == Resume: cjb: wireless bug has been pushed to the back because of the power bug (1835). The current status of the power bug is that we see 8-bytes of instruction

Re: Pippy and Calculate

2007-09-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
> I don't think Python's evaluations are useful as a calculator to > a child, though. You would have to explain this: > > 2+2 > 4 > 3/4 > 0 > > When I was in elementary school, we first learned division with remainder, so the result of 3 / 4 is 0 r

Re: headtracker / mag lens / macro lens ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

2007-09-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I tried not to move my eyes but my head and looking to the four corners and > the center of the XO display. The display is very small so I moved my head > really not to much ... > > Maybe I have got a knot in my brain. > I'm pretty sure that if I had to keep my hea

Re: Could you teach me how fine the physcial addtess?

2007-09-06 Thread Mitch Bradley
Adding devel@ to the list because this is generally useful information Jordan Crouse wrote: > On 06/09/07 14:29 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > >> On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 20:57 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Could you teach me how find the DCOM register in CPU? >>> >>> For exampl

Re: Changing Name of Alsamixer controls 'Analog Input' and 'V_REFOUT'

2007-09-07 Thread Mitch Bradley
Arjun Sarwal wrote: > Hi, > > We are working on some audio driver issues. While we're at it, we also > thought about changing name of two Alsamixer controls for the purpose > of more clarity : > > > 1. There is a control 'Analog Input' which when enabled essentially > allows us to switch to a DC

Re: Pippy and Calculate - Evolution Solution

2007-09-07 Thread Mitch Bradley
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > > Remember the famous quote from Jerome Bruner: > > We begin with the hypothesis that any subject can be taught > effectively in some intellectually honest form to any child at any > stage of development. > Sounds more like a statement of faith than

Re: save-nand problem

2007-09-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
Yuan Chao wrote: > On 9/8/07, Juliano Bittencourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I'm having problems using the save-nand OFW command to created a >> customized version of the OS. In the near past I used this command >> > > >> 1. When I try to create the image file with the co

Re: Marvell

2007-09-10 Thread Mitch Bradley
It is unclear to me that RMS's influence extends to those areas where OLPC could use a boost. OLPC already has pretty good support from the Open Source community as a whole. I doubt that gaining his blessing will make a substantial difference there. I presume that the governments who make XO

Re: save-nand problem

2007-09-11 Thread Mitch Bradley
Kim Quirk wrote: > Hi Juliano, > I just went through this process myself last night. > > The first time I did a save-nand it took many minutes. Unfortunately I > had to do it again since I missed a few things. The second time it > took many hours. It did complete (which surprised me). I tried it

Re: B4 autoinstallation fails (gives a 'help' prompt)

2007-09-14 Thread Mitch Bradley
Asko Kauppi wrote: > Current firmware: Q2C25 > > Upgrading to: Q2C26, OS579 > What machine type? A-test? B1? B2-1? B2-2? B3? B4? C1? > > ** Trying with SD card ** (use of the microSD adapter is a BIIIG > mistake, came out half torn! :) > > Pressing 'X' and powering on takes me to: >

Re: Boot animation

2007-09-17 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > Mitch Bradley wrote: > > >> I would really like to reduce the time of this "2s to 10s" phase. The >> main component is JFFS2 scan time, which could be reduced to near 0 by >> partitioning the NAND FLASH. >> >

Announcing OFW q2c27

2007-09-19 Thread Mitch Bradley
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2c27 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: startup sound

2007-09-21 Thread Mitch Bradley
In recent (more recent than c27) test builds, you can adjust the volume of the startup sound using the keyboard keys for sound volume. The volume thus established persists across reboot. If you turn the volume down all the way, the sound will be disabled completely. __

Re: Performance tuning for the XO

2007-09-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > We make currently make heavy use of hashing in our upgrade & > verification infrastructure. I'd like to find the fastest possible > implementation of the SHA-256 and/or RIPEMD-160 algorithms. Can > anyone offer me advice on the proper compilation options and > strategies

Re: #3655 (Specify the order of the Activity taskbar icons)

2007-09-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
>> < I'd say... our priority (or our message) should be more on the >> "hard fun" items. >> >>> What do you think? >>> I think that children will do what they consider fun, regardless of our priorities or "message". It largely doesn't matter which particular activities are "emph

Re: Modification of Public OLPC Software

2007-09-24 Thread Mitch Bradley
OLPC does not have a conventional BIOS, so any software that depends on one will not work. big one wrote: > I often use Linux without any X-Windows, but only svgalib: mplayer, links 2.0 > browser, mp3blaster, etc. On FreeDOS (Free Disk Operating System), I can use > display, arachne, pppd etc.

Re: Console Mode, DOS Emulator on OLPC

2007-09-25 Thread Mitch Bradley
OLPC does not support VGA/EGA/CGA graphics, so the display code for all those old programs will not work. big one wrote: >> Booting to console mode / svgalib possible >> > > Can someone put a wiki / HOWTO about booting OLPC to console mode, setting up > svgalib, SDL, xinit command and xini

Re: [Devel-machines] Testing of firmware and base system on B2 and B1.

2007-09-28 Thread Mitch Bradley
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > On 27.09.2007 01:44, Jim Gettys wrote: > >> As we run up to mass production of systems, the team at OLPC must >> focus its efforts on testing and bug fixing on the mass-production >> hardware. >> >> To date, we've been careful to ensure that our firmware and softw

Re: [Devel-machines] Testing of firmware and base system on B2 and B1.

2007-09-28 Thread Mitch Bradley
Mitch Bradley wrote: > > > B3 and later machines are essentially identical as far as the firmware > is concerned. OFW senses the board revision and reports it in the > device tree, but does behave differently as a result of board revision > difference. > &g

Re: funny behaviour gtk+python

2007-10-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
Victor Lazzarini wrote: > yes, it's true, but at the moment, I can't > see a substitute for strtod(), and we can't > put a dependency on gtk or Python in the Csound > engine. I can't find an ascii_strtod(). Would > it work if we added a call to setlocale() just > before the call to strtod()? > P

Re: New manufacturing data flags for keyboards (2nd draft).

2007-10-06 Thread Mitch Bradley
Jim's proposal solves the X problem, and I think we should adopt it. We also have the problem of letting OFW and the Linux kernel know enough about the keyboard so developers can type US ASCII , which is the common subset that is sufficient for managing diagnostics, booting, and installation p

Re: New manufacturing data flags for keyboards (2nd draft).

2007-10-06 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > Mitch Bradley wrote: > > >> One solution would be to include a lot of keymaps in OFW and select one >> based on the new KL tag. However, I'm not keen on having to carry >> around a lot of keymaps in the ROM, and ex

Re: New manufacturing data flags for keyboards (2nd draft).

2007-10-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
The proposal for the ASCII keyboard map is detailed in: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Manufacturing_Data#Keyboard_ASCII_Map In the process, I extended the tag format in an upward-compatible fashion to allow value strings longer than 127 bytes: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Manufacturing_Data#Data_Forma

Re: New manufacturing data flags for keyboards (2nd draft).

2007-10-08 Thread Mitch Bradley
> > Kim > > > On 10/8/07, *Mitch Bradley* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > wrote: > > The proposal for the ASCII keyboard map is detailed in: > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Manufacturing_Data#Keyboard_ASCII_Map > > In the p

Re: keyboard symbols

2007-10-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On Oct 9, 2007, at 8:15 , Albert Cahalan wrote: > > >> I notice that some keyboards lack the multiplication >> and division symbols. Providing them for all kids >> would be good, even if they need to move elsewhere. >> > > Why those? They are not used universally.

Re: Where I can download source code of OFW for OLPC?

2007-10-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
svn://openbios.org/openfirmware Build by "make" in cpu/x86/pc/olpc/build Kein Yuan wrote: > Dear list, > > Can anybody here kindly let me know where I can download OFW > source code for OLPC? Under _ _http://dev.laptop.org/git there is > comments says "No commits". > > Thanks a lot,

Re: something went wrong in the file system

2007-10-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
This sounds a lot like a problem that I was working on yesterday. Can you go on IRC (freenode, #olpc) ? If so, I would like to work with you to see if my latest firmware works around your problem. Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > Hello, > > My B4 with 616 build went into some interesting state.

Re: B2-7 - best build and firmware version?

2007-10-14 Thread Mitch Bradley
Todd Kelsey wrote: > Hello - trying to get b2-7 working for demo of mesh between b2-7 and > b4 running 542- > > wondering what the best firmware/build combination would be. I believe > it has build 542 and q2c28 -- wasn't sure if it should have q2c26. > notes indicate 542 and firmware tested for

Re: slightly long and detailed proposal for documentation-translation workflow

2007-10-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
At the current rate of XO software churn, any printed book will be obsolete/inaccurate before the ink is dry. Todd Kelsey wrote: > I have been struggling with my literary agent and trying to knock > someone over the head with a wet noodle into realizing that there > *will* be a market for a boo

Announcing firmware Q2D01

2007-10-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2d01 This is the release for the mass production build. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Calibration of Software/Measure activity

2007-10-21 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ceramic resonators are less expensive than crystals. Their stability and accuracy is not as good as crystals, but is much better than RC oscillators. The waveform that comes from most oscillators is nominally a square wave, but when the frequency gets into the tens of megahertz range, it usua

Announcing firmware Q2D02

2007-10-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2d02 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [design] Lack of built-in serial and // port ?

2007-10-23 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ian Daniher wrote: > Samir, > IIRC, there *is* a serial port, but due to constraints I have not been > made aware of, It isn't exposed, instead it is buried inside the case. One primary constraint is that there is absolutely no room left for other connectors to come out. Yes, I know there are pl

Re: X won't come up on C2

2007-10-24 Thread Mitch Bradley
So far the new keyboard descriptions in the manufacturing data are a paper spec only. By that I mean that, as far as I know, the new tags are not present in the pre-build machines, and the OS doesn't look for them. (That is not quite true for OFW; it will use the new KA tag if it exists). One

Re: tunes for 11/2

2007-10-27 Thread Mitch Bradley
> > Quote of the Day: "Did Apple design this?" > - The first words uttered by Noura, a woman in her twenties, when she > saw the xo laptop for the first time on a recent plane flight. Fractured song lyric of the day: Jobs didn't make the little green laptops, and it don't rain in Indianapol

Re: New joyride build 131

2007-10-28 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bert Freudenberg wrote: > http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build131/devel_jffs2/ > > ! Build incomplete > This is starting to get a bit annoying. We need to do something to prevent hourly annoying messages. Perhaps we should reconsider the wisdom of hourly builds, or qui

Re: New joyride build 131

2007-10-28 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bernardo Innocenti wrote: > Mitch Bradley wrote: > > >> Perhaps we should reconsider the wisdom of hourly builds, or quit >> sending hourly change reports, or something. >> > > > ...or not running new builds unless the datestamps of the source >

Announcing q2d03

2007-10-29 Thread Mitch Bradley
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2d03 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

An opportunity to help - printer configuration

2007-10-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
The Give One, Get One program will put many XO laptops in situations unlike the design target. In particular, North American G1G1 purchasers won't be in clear school/village/community clusters. For the target country deployments, we have been assuming that printing will be done rarely (as pape

Re: Music on the XO

2007-10-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
Seth Woodworth wrote: > Slightly off of the conversational thread here but: Information on the > specific output spectrum capabilities might improve transcoding of > audio files into smaller file sizes. If there is no, or poor quality, > auditory response below or above a given threshold, it mi

System Software Meeting Minutes - 2007-10-30

2007-10-30 Thread Mitch Bradley
USB, DCON) going to suspend - Close as fixed 2401 Update.2 rsmith Wakeup event is repeated continuously (EC and kernel) - The recipe given by MitchCharity has been reproduced by Mitch Bradley - Not a show-stopper because the system recovers if you press the button again - We don't w

Re: Generating tones with computer sound card

2007-10-31 Thread Mitch Bradley
Arjun Sarwal wrote: > Hi, > > I need to do some testing (need sine waves of 50hz, 1khz, 10khz) and I > am unable to get hold of a function generator. I was thinking of using > my computer (PC) sound card to generate these tones. I am wondering if > anybody has done this - so that I may know how

Re: ICC profile of the XO display

2007-11-07 Thread Mitch Bradley
Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have produced an ICC profile of the XO display on a B4. That's right! This > means that Uruguayan 8-year-olds can finally do colorimetrically calibrated > prepress production, provided that they have all the other

Re: [sugar] secure /tmp and /var/tmp

2007-11-07 Thread Mitch Bradley
Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007 7:09 PM, Albert Cahalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 11/7/07, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 12:06:21PM -0500, Albert Cahalan wrote: >>> Next, bind-mount something appropriate onto /tmp a

Q2D04 available for testing

2007-11-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
The firmware release candidate for Update.1 is ready for testing http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2d04 The most significant improvements are in the firmware networking support. OFW wireless networking is completely broken in Q2D03 due to a problem with the firmware in the wireless modu

Re: [PyCON-Organizers] OLPCs not considerate wireless users

2007-11-12 Thread Mitch Bradley
Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves wrote: > I've noticed that mesh activity appears to be ALWAYS on. Even when > the laptop is not doing anything, as in not conected to a school/local > mesh and not sharing any activity. Sometimes even on Suspend mode I > see the Wireless activity light flashing. I'm sure th

Re: StopWatch activity

2007-11-14 Thread Mitch Bradley
Eben Eliason wrote: >> Is there a reason you haven't made the clock and the stopwatch different >> functions for a single activity? >> > > I second that. I think these could be integrated > While you're at it, how about integrating the camera activity with it, so it could be like Dick Tr

Re: StopWatch activity

2007-11-14 Thread Mitch Bradley
Eben Eliason wrote: > On Nov 14, 2007 4:07 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:36:08PM -0500, Eben Eliason wrote: >> >> >>> We still intend to incorporate that - the overhead of launching an >>> activity is silly. >>> >> More precision would m

Re: Telling time (was: StopWatch activity)

2007-11-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
This is a "Color of the Bikeshed" issue. Give it a rest. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Booting OLPC

2007-11-22 Thread Mitch Bradley
Richard Smith wrote: > Waqas Toor wrote: > > >> There is a startup sound when we turn OLPC B4 machine on. >> Is there any method to change or set this sound ... i was looking for >> it but couldnt find any way to identify >> > > No. Its not user changeable. Its built into the firmware. Yo

Re: WSJ

2007-11-25 Thread Mitch Bradley
Mike C. Fletcher wrote: > It's not About the Hardware: In principle, that is true. In practice, it is the hardware that has been responsible for all the attention. If the project had been just a software framework to support constructivist education, the worldwide response would have been "h

Announcing Q2D06 firmware

2007-12-04 Thread Mitch Bradley
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2d06 This firmware is for the Ship.2 software release set, fixing a critical bug that was found in q2d05 at the last minute. The bug caused the system not to boot correctly after an OS update in some (difficult to reproduce on demand) circumstances. It a

Re: OpenFirmware password

2007-12-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
ffm wrote: > I am not completely sure how to set it for the XO-1. I have followed > instructions for other implementations of OpenFirmware, but without > success. Password security is not enabled in the XO version of OFW. Most of the deployed systems will be in secure mode, in which you can't

Re: no serial number ?

2007-12-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
I wonder how the WP tag got set? Alexander M. Latham wrote: > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At powerup it says "S/N Unknown", then > > could not activate this XO > Serial number: SHF > > When I try the activative procedure, I instead get: > > No serial number in mfg data > No seri

Re: no serial number ?

2007-12-05 Thread Mitch Bradley
Is the "wp" manufacturing data tag set? If not, the systems should not go into secure mode, and should therefore be recoverable. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Alexander, > > > Unfortunately, it sounds like you have a bricked machine. > > oh well, them's the breaks :-) > > Is there a way we can te

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