Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable

2010-08-09 Thread Neil Graham
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 14:05 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote: > We do a ton of things in relationship with our 'community' (or perhaps > our different 'communities'). For example, we engage in this thread > with you. And yet, Developers on this list [olpc-devel] have complained when people have done th

Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable

2010-08-08 Thread Neil Graham
On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 19:55 -0400, John Watlington wrote: > On Aug 8, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Neil Graham wrote: > > > There is a small open handheld console. http://www.openpandora.org/ > > http://pandorapress.net/ The openness and friendliness of the community > > enviro

Re: [Sugar-devel] Making OLPC / Sugar Labs more approachable

2010-08-08 Thread Neil Graham
On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 18:02 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > > in general I think it's entirely appropriate to expect > > that people asking for help do so via the correct channels > > I believe that "asking for help" should not be the only supported > motivation for contacting developers. Along

Re: Adobe Flash 10.1 + AIR 2.0 on the XO

2010-03-25 Thread Neil Graham
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 11:42 -0300, Gabriel Eirea wrote: > My personal observation is that this came from a high demand on two > fronts: kids and teachers complaining about youtube and online games > on one side, and local companies used to develop web pages and such > that wanted to create content

UDE - environment Alpha.

2010-01-06 Thread Neil Graham
I've been working on this a while. I've got something for people to look at. It's Alpha with many broken parts, but there's enough to get the idea and, cross fingers, encourage others to contribute. http://screamingduck.com/ude/ It's an environment aiming to provide an alternative to Sugar or Gn

Re: "Noise" level on devel

2009-12-29 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 09:26 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote: > I regret that I must once again unsubscribe from devel, as the noise > level has gotten out of control. That 'noise' is engagement with the community. If you feel that olpc has the resources to provide a complete system through a cathedra

Re: Android, OLPC, and native hosting

2009-12-28 Thread Neil Graham
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 19:38 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: > emacs is what I am using on both XO-1 and XO-1.5 so pretty good going > ;-) (Along with vim! Peace!) > > Lots of people here want to claim we need Eclipse to have an "IDE". Of > all the developers involved in the whole Linux > kernel+Fedo

Re: XO-3 official

2009-12-23 Thread Neil Graham
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 18:33 -0800, John Gilmore wrote: > > I would take it all with a large dose of salt. > > Also, as usual, the left hand at OLPC doesn't know what the right hand > is doing. Actually I think the hands are all doing a very good job. It's the head that needs attention. One thin

Re: possible progress on XO-1 camera issues

2009-12-17 Thread Neil Graham
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 11:47 -0300, César D. Rodas wrote: > This probably reflects a bug in the program. > The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. I'm doing some work that uses xv on the XO. I found that this occurred for me when running X in 24bit, but 16bit was ok. I'

Re: 1.5 - gnome-packagekit?

2009-12-09 Thread Neil Graham
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 02:55 -0500, Walter Bender wrote: > Slightly off topic, but reading between the lines, it seems there is > something more fundamentally broken here. 5000 packages. The Apple app > store adds that many new "apps" every week it seems. Why aren't there > 5 million packages avail

Re: Swap to SD cards: performance and burnout test

2009-12-08 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 10:18 +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: > > I don't think it's terribly useful to test memory consuming > > non-interactive tasks. > The problem is that the only way to get _comparable_, _repeatable_ > numbers is to make the test non-interactive. Yup, but that's looking where you di

Re: 1.5 - gnome-packagekit?

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Graham
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 19:13 -0500, Reuben K. Caron wrote: > Since .XO and .XOL bundles were specifically designed to be "safe" for > installation and removal, I'm concerned the inclusion of gnome- > packagekit would allow one to more easily break their installation but > I also think it would

Re: Swap to SD cards: performance and burnout test

2009-12-07 Thread Neil Graham
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 19:16 +0100, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 03:41:10PM -0200, Emiliano Pastorino wrote: > > Does anyone come out with a possible test? > Compilation in general (e.g. Linux kernel or sugar-jhbuild) seems to be > quite stressful to SD cards and often consumes a

Re: os33 - video regression ?

2009-10-28 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 11:28 -0700, Jon Nettleton wrote: > > Xv can blit both YUV and RGB data to the overlay. I do not know why do > > not they support Xv but this cannot be the reason... > > http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2008/05/flash_uses_the_gpu.html > > Down under FAQ. > It may be th

Re: Mouse wrap-around in X?

2009-10-07 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 13:50 -0200, Emiliano Pastorino wrote: > Does anybody know if there's any configuration in X or package > which let you make the mouse pointer jump from one edge of the > screen to the opposite one? > > This is a very useful feature for accessibility. > While it's not its pr

Re: [Testing] New F11 for the XO-1 Build 7

2009-09-23 Thread Neil Graham
On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 10:13 +0800, Jerome Gotangco wrote: > Thanks for this! I've tried it on an XO-1 and it updates fine. Don't suppose you could run a few programs to show some info to help me to decide if I want to switch to this. Boot then open up a terminal in X and type free df xdpyinf

Re: Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-18 Thread Neil Graham
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 13:54 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Work on getting a top-notch polished $desktop on it, and continued > mantainership behind it, and it'll definitely be an option. It's > reasonably easy to get desktops "going", but good polish making it > suitable for end users takes a to

Re: Why not Xfce? (was: Re: The XO-1.5 software plan.)

2009-05-18 Thread Neil Graham
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 13:54 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Work on getting a top-notch polished $desktop on it, and continued > mantainership behind it, and it'll definitely be an option. It's > reasonably easy to get desktops "going", but good polish making it > suitable for end users takes a to

Re: XO Gen 1.5

2009-04-17 Thread Neil Graham
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 15:24 -0400, John Watlington wrote: > The design goal is to provide an overall update > of the system within the same ID and external appearance. > > In order to maximize compatibility with existing software, this > refresh will continue with an x86 processor, using a chipset

Re: performance work

2008-12-31 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 20:41 -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote: > > I'm curious as to why reads from video memory are so slow, On standard > > video cards it's slow because there is quite a division between the CPU > > and the video memory, but on the geode isn't the video memory shared in > > the same S

Re: performance work

2008-12-22 Thread Neil Graham
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 15:36 -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote: > You might want to re-acquire the numbers with wireless turned off and > the system in a very quiet state. If you want to be extra careful, you > can run the benchmarks in an empty X server (no sugar) and save the > results to a ramfs ba

Re: performance work

2008-12-17 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 16:23 -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote: > I recommend running the Cairo benchmarks on the XO again with > acceleration turned off in the X driver. This will give you a good > indication of which operations are being accelerated and which are not. Done. http://screamingduck.com

Re: performance work

2008-12-16 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 16:23 -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote: > I would start by establishing a 1:1 baseline - it is great to compare > against a 2Ghz Intel box, but that the differences between the two > platforms are just too extreme. No matter how good the graphics gets, > we are still constrain

Re: Sugar & XFCE

2008-12-05 Thread Neil Graham
On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 19:37 +0800, Carlos Nazareno wrote: > These days, 433MHz may seem unusable to the average Moore's > law-spoiled user, but it was more than enough for me who grew up on a > 4.77MHz 8088 as a kid (yeah, that's nothing to you guys over here who > are older :P), a Pentium 166 MMX

Another sugar rant (was: x2o physics problem solving game)

2008-08-05 Thread Neil Graham
On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:08:33 am Alex Levenson wrote: > I'm announcing x2o's first tentative release! x2o is a physics problem > solving game in which you create Rube Goldberg contraptions in order to get > the O to land on top of the X. Check it out at > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X2o, give i

Re: Parallel desktops

2008-06-26 Thread Neil Graham
On Friday 27 June 2008 1:59:16 pm Chris Ball wrote: > Instead of (or as well as) preparing a separate disk image, we could > prepare a Desktop activity which launches an Xfce session and includes > some office tools, the standard NetworkManager applet, a configurable > CUPS installation, and so on.

boot-anim

2008-06-13 Thread Neil Graham
As it stands now there seems to be no 100% reliable way to judge the compressed size of things on jffs2. I cast my eye to the boot-anim, uncompressed it comes to about 60 Meg, is there space being wasted there? http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/library/2007-July/70.html says > JFFS2 comp

Re: Frame Decision (was [sugar] OLPC priorities for Sugar in the August release)

2008-05-16 Thread Neil Graham
On Saturday 17 May 2008 5:26:06 pm John R.Hogerhuis wrote: > One possible idea: rather than popping up the frame when near the edge, pop > up a translucent overlay in key places that looks just like the keyboard > frame key. If the user clicks on it, then bring up the whole frame. I had been ponde

Re: View Source question

2008-05-16 Thread Neil Graham
On Saturday 17 May 2008 11:27:29 am Robert Myers wrote: > 'View Source' is touted as one of the user win features of the XO. There > doesn't seem to be much useful discussion of it on the wiki. > > What's the best path for making an activity 'view source' friendly? > Reverse engineering from Chat,

Re: c preprocessor.

2008-05-15 Thread Neil Graham
On Friday 16 May 2008 6:06:10 pm Martin Langhoff wrote: > What happens if we remove it? Well, it looks like Ubuntu tried, and > had to revert It looks like they just removed the dependency rather than a replacement. xrdb supports -cpp filename preprocessor to use [/usr/bin/cpp] so a sm

c preprocessor.

2008-05-15 Thread Neil Graham
I noticed today that my xo (newly 703) has cpp which while modest in size seems to launch /usr/libexec/gcc/i386-redhat-linux/4.1.2/cc1 which weighs in at 5.1Meg Anybody know what this is used for? would either TCC or mcpp be up to the same task? This work http://www.gnome.org/~lcolitti/gnome-s