Re: 13.1.0 build 29 for XO-4 released

2013-02-12 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 02/11/2013 08:59 PM, Daniel Drake wrote:

Hi,

Another XO-4 only build for 13.1.0:
http://download.laptop.org/xo-4/os/candidate/13.1.0-29/

Changes are:
  - Improved power saving in graphics and other areas
  - Latest wake-on-WLAN developments
  - A potential fix for loss of mouse on boot (#12101)
  - Latest EC code
  - Wikipedia works when offline (#12479)

Thanks
Daniel


The most obvious issue I saw after booting the machine was that the 
Sugar cursor was corrupted. At the left side there was some artifact. 
After reboot the cursor was fine. A known issue?


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Re: Renaming the Telescope activity to Scope

2012-11-19 Thread Simon Schampijer


Am 20.11.2012 um 06:23 schrieb Martin Langhoff :

> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Chris Leonard
>  wrote:
>> As I recall, this activity was already renamed once from xoscope after
>> it became clear it was colliding in name space with an oscilloscpe
>> activity.
> 
> Renames are a pain in infrastructure, and in upgrade handling for users.
> 
> I would say prefer to retain the current name until there's an
> overwhelming case for change.
> 

Agreed. A rename should be well thought through. If you do it, agreed with what 
Chris said, please use a cerb.

Thanks,
   Simon


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Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 development build 11 released

2012-11-12 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 11/11/2012 11:18 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

A new 13.1.0 development build is available.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0
http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os11/

Changes:
- The latest sugar component versions that were released on Thursday


Actually, the package list [1] shows that Saturday's releases went in as 
well. Thanks a lot for that!


Cheers,
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[1] http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os11/xo-4/31011o4.packages.txt


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Re: [Testing] 13.1.0 development build 8 released

2012-10-26 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 10/26/2012 07:15 AM, Manuel Quiñones wrote:

2012/10/25 Daniel Drake :

Hi,

A new 13.1.0 development build is available:

http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os8
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0

- The latest Sugar release including various fixes, and some activity
updates too
- XO-4 kernel work for 8787/mwifiex wireless plus a touchscreen
behaviour improvement.
- Fixed a crash in plugin display in the browser (#12162)



Interesting first boot of XO-4: some icons are not visible.

- activity icons in frame top side
- activity startup animation
- activity icon in the activity main toolbar


This got introduced with pygobject3-3.4.1.1-1.fc18.armv7hl, if you 'yum 
downgrade' to  pygobject3-3.3.91 the icons are back.


Tracked at: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4102

Another show stopper for the XO-4 build is that all space is used. First 
thing I had to do was to remove Wikipedia-* to get some space, oh well a 
good candidate to test the no space left alert :) The 1.75 build has a 
bit of space left.


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Re: [FATAL] No popup appears, to ask for secrets when connecting to Wifi-Network in Neighborhood-View

2012-10-09 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 10/09/2012 07:52 AM, Ajay Garg wrote:

Seems that the same issue happens on XO-1 as well, as reported at
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-October/040173.html


Likely fixed with 
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2012-October/040187.html


Will be in next build. If you do a test before, would be as well 
appreciated.


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Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-03-29 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 03/29/2012 02:58 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Gary Martin  wrote:

On 26 Mar 2012, at 17:30, Gary Martin wrote:


On 26 Mar 2012, at 16:24, Daniel Drake  wrote:


On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Peter Robinson  wrote:

The release is our first combined 12.1.0 / Fedora 17 release, such a
small release but represents so much time by so many people in both
OLPC and Fedora in the ARM side of things to get a "hardfp" ARM
release.


Thanks everyone for all the feedback so far!


Just noticed that on the XO-1, the laptop power button doesn't trigger the 
usual sleep/shutdown full screen UI. Works fine on the XO-1.75.


Sorry, just one more heads-up, while I bump into it (please shout if there's 
more appropriate channel than this mail thread):

The XO-1.75 test unit I have here with the touch screen layer is no longer 
responding to screen touch input with the 12.1.0 dev build 5, it works fine on 
11.3.1 build 31. Have been looking into the on-screen keyboard overlay, added 
to GNOME 3.2 [1] (originally a GSoC 2011 project by Nohemi Fernandez, mentored 
by Dan Winship), to see if it's an option we can adapt for Sugar.


It should be fixed in the next release which will be out in the next
couple of days or you can grab the latest rpm of olpc-kbd from arm
koji [1]

Peter

[1] 
http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/olpc-kbdshim/25/1.fc17/armv7hl/olpc-kbdshim-25-1.fc17.armv7hl.rpm


Ahh, thanks - I was looking fr that rpm myself today, forgot about the 
arm.koji one. Great, installed it, but touchscreen input is still not 
working. Seem to be something else missing.


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Re: [OLPC Engineering] [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-03-26 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 03/25/2012 09:25 PM, Jon Nettleton wrote:

On Mar 25, 2012 9:15 PM, "Simon Schampijer"  wrote:


On 03/25/2012 08:45 PM, Chris Ball wrote:


Hi,

On Sun, Mar 25 2012, Simon Schampijer wrote:


Yeah, flashed now another 1.75 machine (1C2 4GB) and the first boot
when I did not sit next to the machine it came up the same as my 1B1
with a non usable keyboard and trackpad. I rebooted and directly
entered a name and could use than the machine.

Things I came across from a first quick look:
- the trackpad was not as good responsible
- the neighborhood view had no APs listed
- Paint did not start due to missing binaries (does start on the 1.5)



It might have crashed on its way into idle suspend (probably due to the
libertas bugs) leading to an apparant symptom of no keyboard/trackpad.
I stopped powerd straight away to avoid that.

- Chris.



Yeah, that is what I did, now I don't get hangs anymore at least. The

trackpad is still not as responsible, though.


I filed a few more activity bugs on the sugarlabs tracker verifying the

bugs we already found in os4 [1], marked them with the keyword '12.1.0'.


Regards,
   Simon

[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Erikos/Testing/os4
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I would recommend disabling render acceleration in the xorg.conf of the
1.75 it seems to be very crashy.

Jon


On os5 "RenderAccel" is set to false already to workaround #11256 and 
#11237.


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Re: [OLPC Engineering] [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-03-25 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 03/25/2012 08:45 PM, Chris Ball wrote:

Hi,

On Sun, Mar 25 2012, Simon Schampijer wrote:

Yeah, flashed now another 1.75 machine (1C2 4GB) and the first boot
when I did not sit next to the machine it came up the same as my 1B1
with a non usable keyboard and trackpad. I rebooted and directly
entered a name and could use than the machine.

Things I came across from a first quick look:
- the trackpad was not as good responsible
- the neighborhood view had no APs listed
- Paint did not start due to missing binaries (does start on the 1.5)


It might have crashed on its way into idle suspend (probably due to the
libertas bugs) leading to an apparant symptom of no keyboard/trackpad.
I stopped powerd straight away to avoid that.

- Chris.


Yeah, that is what I did, now I don't get hangs anymore at least. The 
trackpad is still not as responsible, though.


I filed a few more activity bugs on the sugarlabs tracker verifying the 
bugs we already found in os4 [1], marked them with the keyword '12.1.0'.


Regards,
   Simon

[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Erikos/Testing/os4
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Re: [OLPC Engineering] [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-03-25 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 03/25/2012 07:59 PM, Chris Ball wrote:

Hi,

On Sun, Mar 25 2012, Simon Schampijer wrote:

I have filed the Browse related tickets 11716, 11718 testing on the
XO-1.5. My 1.75 does boot until the naming screen but I can not use
the trackpad or the keyboard. This is a 1.75 1B1 with 4GB.


Keyboard/trackpad both work here on 1.75 1C2 8GB.  Constant libertas
timeouts, though.

- Chris.


Yeah, flashed now another 1.75 machine (1C2 4GB) and the first boot when 
I did not sit next to the machine it came up the same as my 1B1 with a 
non usable keyboard and trackpad. I rebooted and directly entered a name 
and could use than the machine.


Things I came across from a first quick look:
- the trackpad was not as good responsible
- the neighborhood view had no APs listed
- Paint did not start due to missing binaries (does start on the 1.5)

Regards,
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Re: 12.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2012-03-25 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 03/24/2012 11:56 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

The "We are the Knights who say... NI." release.

THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE

The release is our first combined 12.1.0 / Fedora 17 release, such a
small release but represents so much time by so many people in both
OLPC and Fedora in the ARM side of things to get a "hardfp" ARM
release.

This is post alpha F-17 so the major churn for Fedora development is
now closed. Also note this release has the "usr move" too. The major
features destined for Fedora 17 can be found here [1]. This is the
first release using the new file naming scheme, details can be found
here [2], it will allow an easier means of identifying builds, in
particular makes it easy to differ a x86/arm build :)

Some of the notable details of this release are:
- First 12.1.0 combined release for all devices :-)
- Fedora 17 devel release [1]
- ARM hardfp release for the XO 1.75 (note old F-14 armv5tel binaries won't run)
- Latest Sugar 0.95.x devel releases
- gnome 3.4 RC
- gtk3 3.3.20 with multitouch!
- xorg-x11-server 1.12 with XInput 2.2 (Mutlitouch).
- plymouth pretty and fast boot
- 3.3 based kernel for x86 XOs
- 3.0 based kernel for ARM XOs
- The latest firmwares
- only 4Gb images, for 8Gb expand the FS, we need to review dependencies for 2Gb
- a lot of various improvements

Download from:
http://build.laptop.org/12.1.0/os5/

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/FeatureList
[2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_Process#Version_numbering


Great stuff!

I have filed the Browse related tickets 11716, 11718 testing on the 
XO-1.5. My 1.75 does boot until the naming screen but I can not use the 
trackpad or the keyboard. This is a 1.75 1B1 with 4GB.


Regards,
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Re: [Techteam] 11.3.1 development build 31 for XO-1.75

2012-03-22 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 03/21/2012 05:09 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:

On 03/21/2012 01:38 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote:

"Are we there yet?"

This build brings fixes for two critical camera and Sugar crash bugs.

Updatable via olpc-update -- try the cmdline below.

Notes:

- Building the first ARM RC in a couple of hours, based on this build.

- Building XO-1 and XO-1.5 OS31 builds for testing tomorrow.

- The getty on the serial port is _disabled_ by default now (that's
the workaround). It gets enabled when you hold the "check" game key
during boot (for verbose boot).

Upgrade online with:

olpc-update 11.3.1_xo1.75-31


The update mechanism did work fine for me as well.

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Re: [Techteam] 11.3.1 development build 31 for XO-1.75

2012-03-21 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 03/21/2012 01:38 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote:

"Are we there yet?"

This build brings fixes for two critical camera and Sugar crash bugs.

Updatable via olpc-update -- try the cmdline below.

Notes:

  - Building the first ARM RC in a couple of hours, based on this build.

  - Building XO-1 and XO-1.5 OS31 builds for testing tomorrow.

  - The getty on the serial port is _disabled_ by default now (that's
the workaround). It gets enabled when you hold the "check" game key
during boot (for verbose boot).

Upgrade online with:

   olpc-update 11.3.1_xo1.75-31

Download from:

   http://build.laptop.org/11.3.1/os31/

Fixes (please help us confirm):

#11657 XO-1.75 "Kernel panic- not syncing" while using Record
#11698 Python segfault / error 4 in libglib-2.0.so


This one is fixed and verified, see #11698.

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Re: 12.1.0 trac milestone organisation

2012-03-16 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 03/15/2012 05:15 PM, Daniel Drake wrote:

Hi,

In recent release cycles, the trac milestone on http://dev.laptop.org
for each release has been disorganised and (for that reason) of
limited use - many more tickets in the milestone that the team would
have time to attack. In the 11.3.0 cycle I saw that I was not the only
one affected by this - it makes things especially hard for those who
don't spend as many hours tracking the release progress as the rest of
us.

So for 12.1.0 I would like to change this by myself dedicating more
time to keeping things clean and managed within the 12.1.0 milestone.
I'm proposing that we experiment with the following, which is what I
wrote at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/12.1.0/Release_plan  :



In recent release cycles, the release milestone in trac has become a
bit of a dumping ground for ideas-of-the-minute and miscellaneous bugs
(e.g. bugs not related to current development efforts). As such the
milestone's bug listing has been of limited value and hard to utilise
by those who do not work on the release specifics every day. In this
release cycle, the release manager will attempt to improve on this
situation with the following measures:

- All bugs in the milestone will have a correct and accurate assignee
who understands the responsibility to work on the issue according to
the schedule in this release plan.
- The release manager will triage incoming bugs roughly according to
the following criteria:
  - - Regressions caused by work in this release cycle will be included
in the milestone and assigned accordingly
  - - All other tickets will be triaged into Future Release (for things
we want, but will not necessarily commit to working on it immediately)
and Opportunity (for nice-to-haves).
  - - All tickets triaged to Future Release and Opportunity will have
at least 1 core release team member as assignee or CC. This way, any
bad triaging decisions can be raised and discussed in the weekly
release meeting.
  - Developers are welcome to take tickets from Future Release and
Opportunity milestones and move them into the release milestone, as
and when they have time available to dedicate to such work.
  - The resultant succinct, clean ticket listing in the milsetone will
be useful for release management, allowing for early identification of
release blockers, easy progress tracking, and lets us easily see that
nobody is overloaded with work.

Daniel


Hi Daniel,

I like your proposal and see the potential. Looks really good. I can not 
even come up with good nitpicks :) Thanks for attacking such a hard nut, 
and thanks for being our release manager for another round!


Regards,
   Simon


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ConsoleKit Removal

2012-03-02 Thread Simon Schampijer

Hi,

Fedora is switching away from ConsoleKit and is using systemd instead 
[1]. Looks like olpc-utils needs to be updated to reflect that. We seem 
to open/close a ConsoleKit session in olpc-dm.c.


Regards,
   Simon

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval
[2] http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-utils/tree/src/olpc-dm.c#n229
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Re: [Techteam] The Fedora Fifteen Franken ARM hardfp build 1 for XO 1.75

2012-01-03 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 03/01/12 14:03, Peter Robinson wrote:

The "This sonic transducer, it is I suppose some kind of
audio-vibratory-physio-molecular transport device?" release.

THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE AIMED AT CORE OS/HW DEVELOPERS

This is a hard floating point Franken release for development and
testing of the hardfp on the XO 1.75. Its very incomplete and has a
number of things that don't work. This is expected and its a release
only really intended for people that understandard what hardfp is and
the significance of it and wish to test and develop further for this
fairly major feature both for upstream Fedora and the XO releases.

This isn't a release that shouldn't have bug reports against it.

So what are the known issues, and what works?

- X works using fbdev. There's an issue with resolution. Fix this by
removing the "Virtual" line from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/xo1.75.conf
- No accelerated X
- Sugar and GNOME do work quite well
- Networking seems to work OK
- Firefox DOESN'T work. Known issue, hopefully should be fixed before long
- Midori for GNOME, Surf for Sugar included as browsers.

I've been working to get this to a reasonable testing state for a
while and finally all the bits fell into place. There's quite a bit of
change going on in the ARM Fedora 15 world. I would suggest regular
"yum update" to get the latest builds. I'm not expecting to do regular
builds of this, but will happily cut more builds if people think a new
one would be useful.

Download from:
http://build.laptop.org/F15-arm/os1/

For those interested in hardfp stuff enjoy :-)

Peter


For booting I had to use the 'checker'-key (the right one of the game 
keys), otherwise I had a white screen after booting. (I think I had this 
with one of Daniel's early F16 builds, he might know how to fix this).


Removing the 'Virtual' line as indicated above fixed the resolution fine 
for me.


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Re: Announcing OLPC OS 11.3.0 for XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75

2011-11-10 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 11/09/2011 11:47 PM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote:

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:



(1) In Record 93's preview image (both small and full-sized) the lowest

rows of pixels constantly flickers between green and white.



Please fill a ticket.



Done. http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3230



(2) While playing around with the Journal I ran into an odd situation

where a photo I had taken didn't display in the right chronological order
in the Journal (please see the attached screenshot).



I think there a ticket about this, but I can't find it.



Okay, I did a quick search again and also couldn't find anything...


Maybe it is the same root cause as: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10905 ?

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Re: Announcing the development of OLPC OS 11.3.1

2011-11-06 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 11/04/2011 09:45 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

Martin,
In 11.3.0 a few activities didn't include translations because of problems
with packaging of the activities.
Probably will be a good idea update these activities.
I can prepare a list of recommended activities if you want.

Gonzalo


Are those really critical items?  I would only do the really really must 
do changes besides any 1.75 bug fixes. Because (a) this release should 
be only about bug fixes in my opinion and (b) preparing/testing/shipping 
this takes time away from our new dev cycle.


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Re: Browse-129 PDF fork for 11.3.0

2011-10-05 Thread Simon Schampijer

Tested as well under 11.2.0 to determine if we regressed:


- I can use the 'save to Journal' option and reveal them using the Read
activity ([1] does show a strange title though 'Document:", the log do
not show why), enhancement: would be nice to add here the download link
in the description field like we do for other downloads


Same in 11.2.0, title is 'Document:'.


- I can share a link using the session bookmarks (machine A), however on
B when clicking on the link we try to download the pdf instead of
showing it in Browse


This does work actually as expected in 11.2.0. If I click on the shared 
bookmark it is opened in Browse. So a regression.



- there is a funny drawing error when you switch to another view while
the pdf is loading (see screenshot where the status alert is drawn in
the neighborhood view) (os8 on a 1.5)


Same in 11.2.0.

Even with the regression above I would go that path forward. But would 
be great to diagnose the issue.


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Re: Browse-129 PDF fork for 11.3.0

2011-10-05 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 10/05/2011 11:20 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Simon Schampijer  wrote:

Thanks Daniel for working on this!

A few notes from my testing:


Thanks for testing on this.
What's your opinion on the path forward?

Pretty sure all of the noted issues will have been present on 11.2.0 as well.

If we do ship it, I'd rather not make changes to it at this stage (but
can relnote the issues you and Manuel have found).

Daniel


Yes, would be great to verify the issues found against 11.2.0. But yes, 
the path forward looks good to me.


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Re: [Localization] [ANNOUNCE] 0.94 schedule update: still on track

2011-09-14 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 09/13/2011 11:03 PM, Markus Schlager wrote:

Hi Simon,


Thanks Markus for the feedback,


On Thu, 8 Sep 2011, Simon Schampijer wrote:


There have been one interesting string change in the last week: there
are two entries in the sugar.po that translate the same string
('Remove') but where the context is different. This has been marked
now using pgettext. Chris has pulled that change to Pootle and all
langs sugar.po have been refreshed. An example can be seen at [3][4].
Please give feedback if that addition was helpful to do a better
translation or if anything can be improved.


Context-information is great for translation. In this example, 'volume'
as hint was not particularly helpful to me, since this has at least two
very different meanings in German. 'clipboard' on the other hand was
clear anyway since the source-hint says something about clipboard-menu.


Maybe the text should be more verbose. How about: 'remove item from 
clipboard' and 'eject the external device'



One type of content-information I'd appreciate a lot would be about the
function/type of text this is: Is it e.g. a button lable, a menu entry,
a help text, ...


How would that be done, as well with msgctxt using pgettext? Or are 
there other ways? In general that would be a bigger effort and would 
need to define a few guidelines for that but can be done of course if 
the translator community thinks this would help a lot.


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Re: 11.3.0 build 4 released, for *XO-1.75*, XO-1.5 and XO-1

2011-09-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi,
 
we are seeing here quite a lot of hangs when using os4. Easily reproducible with
Browse. Might have been introduced by the new video driver...?
 
Regards,
   Simon
 
PS: there seem to be some 'redraw-corruptions' after mouse movement as well
 

Daniel Drake  hat am 10. September 2011 um 01:18 geschrieben:

> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/11.3.0
>
> http://build.laptop.org/11.3.0/os4
>
> XO-1.75 support has been added. Woohoo!
> By bringing XO-1.75 into 11.3.0 and with some related efforts, loads
> of stuff has got fixed.
> Peter Robinson has full release notes, he'll post them later.
> This also includes Jon Nettleton's brand new XO-1.75 video driver.
>
> The old F14-arm stream is now obsolete in favour of XO-1.75 builds
> that will appear under the 11.3.0 title.
>
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[ANNOUNCE] 0.94 schedule update: still on track

2011-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer

Hi,

we are still on track in our 0.94 development cycle [1]. The release is 
three weeks away from now, we plan to release the 28th of September!


We have been entering string freeze now, which means: "No string changes 
may be made without confirmation from the localization team and 
notification to the release team" [2]. This freeze is meant to help the 
translators finish their work and to not provide them with a moving 
target. Now is the time we will see a lot of commits from our great 
translators community, Activity developers please watch out for those 
and do make releases to make that work available.


There have been one interesting string change in the last week: there 
are two entries in the sugar.po that translate the same string 
('Remove') but where the context is different. This has been marked now 
using pgettext. Chris has pulled that change to Pootle and all langs 
sugar.po have been refreshed. An example can be seen at [3][4]. Please 
give feedback if that addition was helpful to do a better translation or 
if anything can be improved.


Manuel is currently working on polishing up the tabbing experience in 
Browse. There is one string change and a significant UI change [5]. Both 
need to be discussed following the exception process [6].


So what's left to be done besides translating?

Right, bug fixing and testing!

I have been listing Features and changes on the pre-release-notes [7] 
which should give a good sense of the bigger changes that needs testing. 
General functionality testing like (networking, saving etc) are of 
course welcome. I will add a list as well of the bugs we fixed so 
potential regressions in those areas can be identified. Watch out for 
more details here. There are instructions on the page as well how to 
test and where to file bugs.


Three more weeks to go, let's make this a rock-solid, innovative and 
fun-to-use release.


Regards,
   Simon

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.94/Roadmap#Schedule
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release#String_Freeze
[3] Remove - clipboard 
http://translate.sugarlabs.org/es/glucose/sugar.po?item=247&view_mode=translate
[4] Remove - volume 
http://translate.sugarlabs.org/es/glucose/sugar.po?item=369&view_mode=translate
[5] 
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2011-September/033229.html
[6] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release#UI_Freeze and 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release#String_Freeze

[7] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.94/Notes
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Gtk3 Hackfest, Praha 2011, news updates

2011-09-02 Thread Simon Schampijer

Hi,

two major changes have recently occurred in Sugar's underlying 
technologies. Firstly, GTK+ 2 has been obsoleted by GTK+ 3, and GNOME is 
now based on GTK+ 3. Secondly, PyGTK, the underlying Python library that 
Sugar uses to call into GTK+, has been deprecated in favor of PyGObject 
Introspection (hereafter "PyGI"). More background info can be found at 
Features/GTK3 [1]. Goal of this hackfest is to remove the biggest 
blockers before we can start the porting and potentially start porting 
over.


== Sponsoring regional trips ==
This Hackfest is sponsored by the OLPC Foundation. If you need help for 
funding your travel, please send an email to simon AT laptop DOT org 
before the 8th of October 2011. OLPCF won't be able to refund more than 
150 USD per trip, and we will fund regional (european) travels in 
priority [2].


Regards,
   Simon

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/GTK3
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/Gtk3_Hackfest_2011
[3] http://brmlab.cz/|
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Re: Lost "activity failed to launch" smarts in Sugar launch splash

2011-08-31 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 08/31/2011 03:25 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Martin Langhoff  wrote:


Hi Gonzalo,

on os41, if you launch Maze, it fails to start (that's logged
already)... and the launcher fails to register the failure, which I
don't think has been discussed.

shell.log says "ERROR root: Cannot send NotifyLaunchFailure to the
shell" -- could this be related to the new activity startup splash? Is
this otherwise known?



No, is not related.
Maze is really broken, but one of the problems (already solved in git)
is the configuration in the activity.info file and sugar can start the
activity.
(the line exec should be "exec = sugar-activity activity.MazeActivity)
If you want try, must restart sugar after editing the file because are
cached.

Gonzalo


Yes, the 'activity failed to launch' screen is still there. You can test 
with Browse in os41 easily ;p


Regards,
   Simon
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Help testing Sugar 0.93.x

2011-08-31 Thread Simon Schampijer

Hi,

we have been landing the features targeted at 0.94 and are currently in 
the phase of fixing bugs related to those features and other changes 
introduced by recent code changes [1]. I have been starting to create 
notes about the Features and changes that have been made [2]. Those will 
evolve over time but should give you a good first impression about the 
recent additions and changes.


There are two olpc builds that contain the latest changes os3 [3] for 
the i686 architecture (XO 1 and XO 1.5) and os41 [4] for the new ARM 
hardware.


It would be great if people with those hardware (or sugar-jhbuild or 
Fedora 16) could help testing so that we are able to fix bugs in time. 
Bugs related to Sugar and activities should be filed under [5], bugs 
that are related to the new 1.75 hardware (or that are specific to the 
XO hardware) should be filed at [6]. Please make sure to note as well 
the build version and hardware you are using for testing in the bug report.


Please stay tuned for new builds that will be announced on those lists.

Regards,
   Simon

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.94/Roadmap#Schedule
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.94/Notes
[3] http://build.laptop.org/11.3.0/os3/
[4] http://build.laptop.org/F14-arm/os41/
[5] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/
[6] http://dev.laptop.org/
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Re: New F14-arm build os40 - Are we there yet? I'm hungry!

2011-08-27 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 08/27/2011 10:23 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Simon Schampijer  wrote:

On 08/26/2011 07:02 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:


The are we there yet? I'm hungry release

Lots of change this release... again! So I'll just get to the raw
details...


Wonderful! Congrats.

Smoketest:

fixed: #11161: Cant alt tab between activities
fixed: #11174: Wlan&FW version no information under "my computer".

Sugar* 0.93.3 made it successfully into the build.

Note: there is no activity updater (Control Panel) in this build. We have
patched the aslo-based one out of Sugar and the wikipage-based one has not
been added yet.

Like in 11.2.0 the keyboards section in the CP is removed as well.


Simon,

Can you have a look a Browse, it seems to have startup issues :-/

Peter


Yes, this is known. I already asked Rafael for a new bundle as it is 
fixed in master.


Simon
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Re: New F14-arm build os40 - Are we there yet? I'm hungry!

2011-08-27 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 08/26/2011 07:02 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

The are we there yet? I'm hungry release

Lots of change this release... again! So I'll just get to the raw details...


Wonderful! Congrats.

Smoketest:

fixed: #11161: Cant alt tab between activities
fixed: #11174: Wlan&FW version no information under "my computer".

Sugar* 0.93.3 made it successfully into the build.

Note: there is no activity updater (Control Panel) in this build. We 
have patched the aslo-based one out of Sugar and the wikipage-based one 
has not been added yet.


Like in 11.2.0 the keyboards section in the CP is removed as well.

Regards,
   Simon
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Re: New F14-arm build os40 - Almost in sync with x86!

2011-08-23 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 08/23/2011 12:54 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Simon Schampijer  wrote:

Hi Peter,

thanks for the new build! First of all, it does boot fine.


Thanks for confirmation, was racing out the door!


On 08/23/2011 09:28 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:


The please just exit the building already release!

There's been quite a bit of churn since the last release so its likely
possible I've missed some bits. I plan to cut another release Friday
morning so let me know what I need to ensure is pulled in soon.

Download from:

  http://build.laptop.org/F14-arm/os40/

Changes and notes from Martin's OS36 (including some from my OS1 test):
- sugar 0.92.4


As we can not push 0.94 to F14 in Fedora I will do F14 builds for our builds
and put them into my public repo.


OK, please use Fedora spec files or rebase OLPC's on them as there's a
number of bugs I've seen in the olpc ones that have long since been
fixed.


Yes, will do.


- abiword and pyabiword with network support


works now indeed.


- pybox2d distro package included so Physics should work


Physics is actually missing in the build (see activities diff below)


Weird. Its using the same Activity bits and URLs etc that are in
mainline OOB now so it should have been the same. I'll have time to
poke more at OOB this week in time for the next build on Friday.


 From my list:

sugar-presence-service is now the latest package and fixes [1].


Awesome.


"hostname set too late; upsets avahi" [2]: this does not seem to have been
fixed. Even though a new olpc-utils version based on olpc-utils 1.3.0 has
been pulled in the hostname is not set correctly, it is set to localhost.
Hmmm...


There's an issue with avahi builds in the builder due to bloody gtk3
which I need to take a closer look at, I wonder if there's a fix in
that?


avahi-0.6.27-2.fc14.i686 is what we have in the i686 builds
, and building that for ARM failed as I see in the koji logs. 27-1 is 
what we have in our ARM builds at the moment, 27-2 was a python 2.7 mass 
rebuild it looks like - not sure it has an effect on the above.


Maybe Daniel has a clue what causes the error as he has been doing the 
hostname fix?


Regards,
   Simon


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Re: New F14-arm build os40 - Almost in sync with x86!

2011-08-23 Thread Simon Schampijer

Hi Peter,

thanks for the new build! First of all, it does boot fine.

On 08/23/2011 09:28 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:

The please just exit the building already release!

There's been quite a bit of churn since the last release so its likely
possible I've missed some bits. I plan to cut another release Friday
morning so let me know what I need to ensure is pulled in soon.

Download from:

  http://build.laptop.org/F14-arm/os40/

Changes and notes from Martin's OS36 (including some from my OS1 test):
- sugar 0.92.4


As we can not push 0.94 to F14 in Fedora I will do F14 builds for our 
builds and put them into my public repo.



- abiword and pyabiword with network support


works now indeed.


- pybox2d distro package included so Physics should work


Physics is actually missing in the build (see activities diff below)

From my list:

sugar-presence-service is now the latest package and fixes [1].

"hostname set too late; upsets avahi" [2]: this does not seem to have 
been fixed. Even though a new olpc-utils version based on olpc-utils 
1.3.0 has been pulled in the hostname is not set correctly, it is set to 
localhost. Hmmm...


Regards,
   Simon

[1] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11139
[2] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11141
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Re: New F14-arm build os1 - Fedora mirror plus more!

2011-08-14 Thread Simon Schampijer

On 08/14/2011 03:14 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

The Peter's first release with Fedora Secondary Mirrors goodness plus
much more release!

Download from:

   http://build.laptop.org/~pbrobinson/f14-arm/os1/

Changes and notes from Martin's OS36:

- All of sugar 0.92.4 release
- abiword and pyabiword with network support
- pybox2d distro package included so Physics should work


I have opened a discussion to add pybox2d to the Sugar platform [1].


- gnash / gnash-plugin
- PolicyKit-olpc
- Temporarily removed pygame and totem due to dep issues


That is why Physics does still not start even though pybox2d is present :)

Your build does include the latest sugar-presence-service package and 
therefore fixes [2]. These builds are becoming the new build stream and 
we can close the ticket then - is this correct?


Regards,
   Simon

[1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2011-August/032798.html
[2] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11139
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Re: stop sharing an activity

2011-05-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/30/2011 07:36 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote:
>
> --- On Sun, 5/29/11, James Cameron  wrote:
>
>> I don't know where that discussion might be, but the
>> concept follows the
>> maxim that once information is released there's no going
>> back.
>>
>
> Thanks for the detailed info.
> For sure once information is released there is no going back,
> but I do not think activity sharing/collaboration is anything close to that 
> as a concept or practice.
> Today other collaboration tools allow not only collaboration to stop but also 
> who and how to collaborate.
> I can see many scenarios in and out of a class that may need that feature and 
> I'm actually surprised is not(?) brought up by any deployment yet.

Actually, I happened to think about it yesterday.

Of course the 'unshare' functionality this adds a bit more complexity to 
the issue, which I think is the main reason why it is not handled as of 
today. At the moment, what you do when you want to stop a shared session 
is that you close the activity.

So activities at the moment have to be aware of that fact and should be 
able to handle those cases cleanly (person who joined/the person who 
started the shared session are leaving). However, for 'unshare' you have 
to handle as well this case, the activity state change, in your activity 
and this might be a bit trickier, or at least adds more complex code.

Regards,
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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/20/2011 10:15 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 09:38:12AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>> On 05/20/2011 12:29 AM, James Cameron wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 06:54:54PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>>>> Hmm, the representation of the missing blocks and the 'Warning' at the
>>>> end that not all blocks have been written put me off. It looked to me
>>>> as if there was an error. Maybe we can represent that better?
>>>
>>> No, just put it in the release notes.
>>>
>>> I presume you used an old firmware version to do the fs-update.  Exactly
>>> which version did you use?  This is important to know.  For those
>>> updating from the latest stable 10.1.3 which has Q3A62, we expect no
>>> warning.  For those updating using a firmware version after Q3A62, and
>>> before Q3A65 or Q3B04, a warning may appear.
>>
>> I did update from dx2. I guess one can live with the missing blocks
>> if the warning is not displayed at the end.
>
> Do you know what firmware you used to do the fs-update?  This is
> displayed just before the ok prompt.  It may have changed since, of
> course.
>

Now is Q3B03, but afaik it got updated. I could not find out easily 
which firmware version dx 2 from Paraguay had.

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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/20/2011 12:29 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 06:54:54PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>> Hmm, the representation of the missing blocks and the 'Warning' at the
>> end that not all blocks have been written put me off. It looked to me
>> as if there was an error. Maybe we can represent that better?
>
> No, just put it in the release notes.
>
> I presume you used an old firmware version to do the fs-update.  Exactly
> which version did you use?  This is important to know.  For those
> updating from the latest stable 10.1.3 which has Q3A62, we expect no
> warning.  For those updating using a firmware version after Q3A62, and
> before Q3A65 or Q3B04, a warning may appear.

I did update from dx2. I guess one can live with the missing blocks if 
the warning is not displayed at the end.

Regards,
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Re: 11.2.0 development build 19 released

2011-05-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/14/2011 01:46 PM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/11.2.0
>
> http://build.laptop.org/11.2.0/os19
>
> Notable changes:
> XO-1.5 zd images are now sparse, meaning fs-update writes only to
> certain parts of the disk and the flash process is much quicker

Hmm, the representation of the missing blocks and the 'Warning' at the 
end that not all blocks have been written put me off. It looked to me as 
if there was an error. Maybe we can represent that better?

Regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Anybody has a Go Go board?

2011-03-08 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 03/07/2011 04:39 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> -- if you can connect your sexy gogo board to your friendly linux
> machine and type
>
> sudo lsusb -v>  gogo-info.txt
>
> and email that txt file to me.
>
> thanks!
>
>
>
> m

Done.

Regards,
Simon
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Re: Require ".olpc" in rpms in ~/public_rpms/F14?

2011-02-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 02/28/2011 02:37 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> to ensure we keep track (and limit) of what non-Fedora rpms make it to
> the builds, should the "rpm collection" step... ?
>
>   - only grab rpms that say .olpc
>   - complain about rpms that don't...
>
> This would mean that in the package listing, it's non-ambiguous what
> packages we're "carrying".
>
> cheers,
>
>
> m

What would be the preferred place to put 'olpc' in the rpm name? Between 
the distribution version and the 'arch'? Like:

Version: 0.92.0
Release: 1%{?dist}.olpc

sugar-0.92.0-1.fc14.olpc.noarch.rpm

And another check could be to make sure there is a srpm available for 
each package.

Regards,
Simon
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Re: Activity crashes when using libsugarize.so

2011-02-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 02/10/2011 11:55 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Martin Langhoff
>   wrote:
>> Indeed. At this point, we think the crash comes not so much from
>> libsugarize but from changing windows very quickly during startup.
>
> Wrtiteup of my diagnosis and patches at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10683
>
> Note that the patches only shrink the window. Combine them, and the
> crash (with this specific program, this hw, this load profile) goes
> away. Mostly :-)
>
> Not sure if there's a way to ask gtk.gdk&  wnck to query a window in a
> sane manner. Maybe this race is bad API in those bindings, maybe it's
> just an X11 protocol gotcha.
>
> Where's jg when we need him? ;-)
>
>
> m

For reference: We just found that master has a catch for that issue:
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1123

http://git.sugarlabs.org/sugar-toolkit/mainline/commit/d304f72872fa346dd2c3cedd1d3e508a3aeb5107

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Re: Language support for 11.2.0

2011-02-09 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 02/06/2011 07:51 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On 6 February 2011 12:36, Daniel Drake  wrote:
>> Does anyone know what the difference between "ht" and "ht_HT" is?
>> I see that SKU24 does set the system locale to ht_HT. But does that
>> mean we should include ht *and* ht_HT? Just ht_HT? Or ...?
>
> I think I figured it out: "ht" doesn't exist as a locale, but what
> "ht" means in this context is to include all avaliable locales which
> start with "ht_".

Yes that is how I understand it as well.

Having "pt,pt_BR" in the olpc-os-builder config file seem to be not 
needed then - 'pt' would be enough.

> According to "locale -a" output on 11.2.0-7, ht_HT is already
> available, and it seems to work (not many strings are available, but
> according to kreyol.com the offered translation of Write as Ekri is
> accurate). So I think we may have misdiagnosed (or mis-guessed) the
> problem in 10.1.3 with Kreyol translations in that other thread, as
> ht_HT should also be included there.

You are right on that one. ht was included in the build all the time. So 
I think just the CP command line command did choke when setting.

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Re: Language support for 11.2.0

2011-02-09 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 02/06/2011 07:36 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On 4 February 2011 13:00, Simon Schampijer  wrote:
>> I request German for inclusion! At least I use it in my small
>> 'deployment' of 5 machines :) I remember as well a class in Austria that
>> used the builds, Christoph (in cc) will know better. Sebastian had as
>> well a class set delivered to Hannover - not sure what the status is
>> there. Bert might have other examples...
>
> Whats the locale that needs adding then? de? de_DE?

I did build my builds with including 'de' - there exist de_AT (Austria) 
and de_DE (Germany) and a few more de_* - as Austria and Germany have 
requested inclusion you could just include those.

Thanks,
Simon

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Re: Sugar on arm

2011-02-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 02/07/2011 11:41 AM, ismael schinca wrote:
> Hello everyone. I'm trying to run Fedora 12 on a Beagleboard xm and running
> sugar on it.
>
> However, when I try to install the sugar package via yum I get some
> dependencies problem. Specifically, the xapian-bindings-python package is
> missing (apparently sugar-datastore requires it). This package is not
> available for ARM architecture.
>
> So I downloaded and compiled the latest xapian bindings for python manually.
> However, after succesfully installing this, the dependencies problem still
> remains. I suppose it just checks for the package.
>
> Any suggestions? I'm no expert so maybe it's something quite simple (yum
> skip-broken does not do the trick).

If the package is not available, it should be build for arm. I think 
F13-arm is close [1] - you might find it more complete.

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM
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Re: F15 glibc again fails on AMD Geode LX

2011-02-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 02/04/2011 12:43 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM, John Gilmore  wrote:
>> FYI: Early Fedora 15 builds don't run on the Geode, again.  This time,
>> people seem to be on the issue, and may resolve it without much work
>> from OLPC.  But I think it would be worth spending some testing time
>> to make sure it's really resolved, so the final F15 can be used as
>> a basis for an OLPC release for the XO-1.
>
> Yes, thanks for the heads up on this, the XO-1 rawhide testing was on
> my todo list prior to the alpha release. I've added it as a blocker
> for the alpha release so we should get it fixed before then. After the
> last flame war over it there was an official decision by the powers
> that be (can't remember whether it was the Board or FESCo) that the
> XO-1 platform was something they wanted to support and as a result of
> that it should block the release.
>
> Peter

Oups! Thanks Peter for taking action.

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Re: Language support for 11.2.0

2011-02-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 02/04/2011 07:16 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Currently we are including the following languages and locales in
> 11.2.0 official builds:
>
> en_US
> es
> ar
> pt
> pt_BR
> fr
> ht
> mn
> mr_IN
> am_ET
> km_KH
> ne_NP
> ur_PK
> rw
> ps
> fa_AF
> si
> zh_CN
>
> We can extend that list if there are active deployments (of really any
> size) that use locales not covered by the list above. Requests can be
> made on this mailing list.

I request German for inclusion! At least I use it in my small 
'deployment' of 5 machines :) I remember as well a class in Austria that 
used the builds, Christoph (in cc) will know better. Sebastian had as 
well a class set delivered to Hannover - not sure what the status is 
there. Bert might have other examples...

> One area we need to investigate is Haiti in light of a recent
> discussion here; ht is included but perhaps we also need ht_HT?

Yes, ht_HT is what I included in the builds I made for Haiti. That had 
the locale we were looking for.

Regards,
Simon
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Re: [IAEP] !! in 10.1.3, setting "languages" property clears all activities

2011-01-31 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/30/2011 06:55 PM, si...@schampijer.de wrote:
>   Hi Timothy,
>
> so the issue you are seeing is twofold:
>
> a) the command you are using "sugar-control-panel -s language Kreyol/Haiti" 
> will
> write a faulty locale. Can be seen in /home/olpc/.i18n That is why your 
> activity
> icons are gone. It should be something similar to this:
>
> LANG="ht_HT.utf8"
> LANGUAGE="ht_HT.utf8"
>
> b) The Haiti translations are not included in the build (this has been due to
> space constraints). The quickest solution would be to build a new image - as
> Daniel stated if we do it here you would have to download it.
>
> I am building a new image at the moment to get you one option - I will let you
> know how it goes.
>
> Regards,
> Simon

Ok, I have rebuilt the 860 (10.1.3) build with the Haiti translations 
included. Since downloading here at FUDCon takes a while I have not been 
able to test them yet (verification welcome). Don't worry the numbering 
- just wanted to have it being different than the official signed build. 
And yes, like said by Daniel - those builds are not signed by OLPC.

http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os361-haiti/
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os361-haiti/

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[ANNOUNCE] OLPC OS 10.1.3 final release

2011-01-16 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear olpc community,

we are very pleased to announce build os860 as the final 10.1.3 release 
build for XO-1 and XO-1.5 laptops!

This is an update to software release 10.1.2 that fixes important bugs 
and includes some new improvements (listed at the bottom of this mail). 
The release is based on Fedora 11 and contains the latest Sugar 0.84 and 
the GNOME desktop.

The full release notes can be found at [1]. Instructions for installing 
the release on an XO can be found at [2].

Many thanks to everyone -- testers, translators, documenters,
developers and others -- who contributed to this release!

On behalf of the OLPCA-team,
Simon

[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.3
[2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.3#Installation



==New features==

===Collaboration "under a tree" on XO-1.5===
We have significantly improved collaboration when XO-1.5 is used with no 
Access Points available ("under a tree"). The Neighborhood View now 
shows three default Ad-hoc networks (for channels 1, 6, and 11) in 
user-friendly icons, and XOs will auto-connect without user 
intervention. This behavior is similar to the "mesh" behavior on XO-1.

===Sharing/Backup Journal entries using a mass storage device===
You may now share Journal entries with another learner using a [[USB 
drive]] or SD card. The user experience is: Martin wants to give a 
picture he has been drawing to Simon. He plugs in his USB drive and 
copies the Journal entry on the drive. Simon plugs in Martin's drive in 
his laptop. The entry will be shown with Martin's XO color on the drive. 
Simon copies Martin's entry into his Journal.

You can use this feature to backup Journal entries to a USB drive or SD 
card.

===Connect your XO to external projectors and monitors===
We have added support for USB2VGA adapters. You can now connect an XO to 
a projector over a USB2VGA adapter and project what is on your XO screen 
onto a screen or for many people to see.

===Screen Rotation on XO-1.5===
On XO-1.5 it is now possible to rotate the screen using the 'rotate' 
button. This allows learners to use the XO in ebook mode.

===Protected Activities Support===
In this build certain activities are protected from being deleted by 
accident. In the activity list in the home view the erase option is 
disabled for those. Protected activities are: Browse, Terminal, Log, 
Write, ImageViewer and Record.

===Better interaction between GNOME and Sugar===
Switching between Sugar and GNOME user interfaces is smoother. Changes 
of settings in GNOME now do not affect Sugar, and vice-versa.

The ~/Activities directory is now hidden from the user in GNOME, to 
prevent accidental deletions that could harm Sugar. The networking 
settings are now synchronized so enabling/disabling networking is unified.

Users can now change GNOME panels and fonts without risk of breaking 
GNOME -- invalid settings are reset on restart.

The dialog to set a GNOME keyring password when connecting to a secure 
wireless network has been disabled.

===Browse===
A home button has been added into the Browse toolbar. The button returns 
to the home page, where important links are.

A busy cursor has been added for when a page is loading. This was 
present in 8.2.1 but missing from 10.1.2.

Finally, previews for downloaded images have been added, so that the 
Journal will show appropriate thumbnails of downloaded images.

===Paint===
The Paint activity has been improved a lot:

* The cursor has been enhanced and realigned,
* Text tool has been improved
* New filters: invert colors and mirror effects
* Tool size and shape are shown
* Improvements to copy and paste

===Read===
Scrolling has been improved.  The up and down directional keypad to the 
left of the XO display will now scroll, which is especially useful if 
the laptop is in ebook mode. Using the fn key with the up and down arrow 
keys will now scroll by page.

===Write===
You can now paste images into Write. Images can be copied from Browse, 
Paint or Write. You can now put images into tables and export to PDF.

The style list has been reordered to place paragraph text styles before 
heading styles.

===Wikipedia===
Page loading has been sped up and several smaller fixes made.

===Scratch===
A new camera plugin adds importing from camera on XO-1.

===Activity Updates===
We included the latest versions of Calculate, Colors, Distance, Etoys, 
Help, InfoSlicer, Jukebox, Labyrinth, Memorize, Physics, Pippy, Turtle 
Art and Typing Turtle.

===System Lid Behavior===
When the lid is closed on the XO, the laptop will suspend its operations 
and turn off the screen.  Historically re-opening the lid has turned on 
the screen and woken up the laptop for normal use.  In order to avoid a 
problem where stacked XO units may accidentally turn each other back on, 
this wake-up behavior has been disabled.  To wake up the laptop from 
suspend press the power button once.
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10.1.3 Release Candidate --- build os860 for XO-1 and XO-1.5 (Signed by OLPC)

2011-01-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
OLPC build 10.1.3 - 860
=

The '¿Habla español?' build.


=Builds=
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os860
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os860


=General Information=
This is the first release candidate in the 10.1.3 cycle. The final build 
is scheduled for the end of next week (14th of January).

This build is a signed one (by OLPC), meaning that you can install it on 
a secured XO without the need to unsecure it with a developer key [1].

For a list of improvements and fixes in the 10.1.3 build please have a 
look at [2] (this page is still work in progress). Please record your 
testing results at [3], or file bugs directly at [4].

[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activation_and_developer_keys
[2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.3
[3] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/10.1.3/Testing
[4] http://dev.laptop.org/


=Description of changes in this build=

==Updated Spanish translations==
* sugar
* Browse
* Calculate
* Paint
* Colors
* InfoSlicer
* Labyrinth
* Memorize
* Physics
* TypingTurtle

==Activities removed from Build==
* Analyze
* Ruler
* SocialCalcActivity

==Read==
* Regression fix: Scrolling does not work for epub files in Read 
activity #10494


=Package changes since build 360=
--- os360/os360.packages.txt2010-12-22 16:08:22.0 -0500
+++ os860/os860.packages.txt2011-01-06 16:46:04.0 -0500
@@ -605,7 +605,7 @@
  strace-4.5.19-1.fc11.i586
  stunnel-4.26-3.i586
  sudo-1.7.2p6-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-0.84.29-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-0.84.31-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-artwork-0.84.4-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-base-0.84.2-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-datastore-0.84.1-1.fc11.i586


=Activity changes since build 360=
== XO-1 ==
--- os360/os360.activities.txt  2010-12-22 16:08:06.0 -0500
+++ os860/os860.activities.txt  2011-01-06 16:45:48.0 -0500
@@ -1,18 +1,20 @@
-Browse-108.2
-Calculate-34
+Browse-108.4
+Calculate-35
  Chat-65
  Distance-21
  Etoys-115
  Help-12
+ImageViewer-8
  Implode-9
+Jukebox-20
  Log-20
  Maze-6
  Measure-31
-Memorize-35
+Memorize-36
  Moon-11
-Paint-30
+Paint-31
  Pippy-38
-Read-87.1
+Read-87.2
  Record-86
  Scratch-17
  Speak-18

== XO-1.5==
--- os360/os360.activities.txt  2010-12-21 03:18:36.0 -0500
+++ os860/os860.activities.txt  2011-01-06 16:00:53.0 -0500
@@ -1,8 +1,7 @@
-Analyze-8
-Browse-108.2
-Calculate-34
+Browse-108.4
+Calculate-35
  Chat-65
-Colors-15
+Colors-15.1
  Distance-21
  Etoys-115
  Finance-3
@@ -10,22 +9,20 @@
  Help-12
  ImageViewer-8
  Implode-9
-InfoSlicer-8
+InfoSlicer-8.1
  Jukebox-20
-Labyrinth-9
+Labyrinth-11
  Log-20
  Maze-6
  Measure-31
-Memorize-35
+Memorize-36
  Moon-11
-Paint-30
-Physics-7
+Paint-31
+Physics-8
  Pippy-38
-Read-87.1
+Read-87.2
  Record-86
-Ruler-3
  Scratch-17
-SocialCalcActivity-5
  Speak-18
  StopWatch-4
  TamTamEdit-53
@@ -34,7 +31,7 @@
  TamTamSynthLab-53
  Terminal-31
  TurtleArt-104
-TypingTurtle-26
+TypingTurtle-26.2
  Wikipedia-23
  WikipediaEN-23
  Words-4
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Re: Will 10.1.3 become 11.1.1?

2011-01-03 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/03/2011 05:19 PM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 00:31 -0800, Sameer Verma wrote:
>> Given that 10.1.3 is still beta and we are now in 2011, will it become 
>> 11.1.1?
>
> No, because 10.1.3 is a point release in the 10.1 series. Similarly,
> 8.2.1 was released in 2009.
>
> Daniel

Yes, like Daniel said, we stick to the naming as 10.1.3 even if the 
final release build will be in 2011.

Regards,
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[Testing] New 10.1.3 build os359 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-12-16 Thread Simon Schampijer
OLPC build 10.1.3 - 359
=

The 'stick all the fixes in olpc-utils' build.

=Builds=
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os359
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os359


=Description of changes in this build=

==build==
* Add the content bundles to the XO-1 builds #10537
* In the XO-1.5 build we have a new Wikipedia-22 and a new 
WikipediaEN-22 activity.

==sugar==
* Sync networking state between Sugar and GNOME #10532
* Expand size of version field in activity list #10523
* Make scanning of storage devices more robust OLPC #10140
* Journal: display entries that have no title on storage devices #10533
* Protected Activities Support #10415
* bundlebuilder: move the mime type installation in a separate method, 
part of #10427

==olpc-utils==
* olpc-session: check/fix gnome panel and fonts dlo#10539
* olpc-session: disable rfkill, but keep wlan down for gnome #10532
* olpc-configure: bump ALSA master for XO-1.5 to -10dB #10235
* force capture mixer control to 100% #10234
* Create a default unencrypted keyring #10290
* Protect ~/Activities when starting non-Sugar shells #10531

==Write==
* Change the signal used to update the color #10488
* Change the order in the options in the style combo #3913
* Add Separators to Style combo #3913

==Paint==
Change the signal used to get the color update #10488
Fix invert colors in F11 #2495
Implement change the size, font and attributes in the Text Tool. #2501 
and #3707
Change the color of the TextView control - fix OLPC #3708 and #10447
Shape merged cursor icons have active cursor point not at the tip of the 
cursor SL #2337
Section shapes - the cursor looks like a house for an hexagon #10446
Add binaries to python 2.7 in 64bits arch SL 2417 and SL 2464
Add binary files to different architectures and python versions
Fixed aspect ratio mode for Shape tools #3705


=Package changes since build 357=
--- os357/os357.packages.txt 2010-12-09 03:51:42.0 -0500
+++ os359/os359.packages.txt 2010-12-16 06:06:40.0 -0500
@@ -483,7 +483,7 @@
  olpc-powerd-dbus-32-1.fc11.i586
  olpc-switch-desktop-0.7-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-update-2.23-1.fc11.noarch
-olpc-utils-1.0.31-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-utils-1.0.36-1.fc11.i586
  OpenEXR-libs-1.6.1-8.fc11.i586
  openjpeg-libs-1.3-5.fc11.i586
  openldap-2.4.15-7.fc11.i586
@@ -605,12 +605,12 @@
  strace-4.5.19-1.fc11.i586
  stunnel-4.26-3.i586
  sudo-1.7.2p6-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-0.84.26-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-0.84.29-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-artwork-0.84.4-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-base-0.84.2-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-datastore-0.84.1-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-presence-service-0.84.3-1.fc11.noarch
-sugar-toolkit-0.84.15-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-toolkit-0.84.16-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-update-control-0.23-2.fc11.noarch
  symlinks-1.4-2.fc11.i586
  system-config-firewall-tui-1.2.16-3.fc11.noarch


=Activity changes since build 357=
--- os357/os357.activities.txt  2010-12-09 05:05:41.0 -0500
+++ os359/os360.activities.txt  2010-12-16 07:32:09.0 -0500
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
  Measure-31
  Memorize-35
  Moon-11
-Paint-29
+Paint-30
  Physics-7
  Pippy-38
  Read-87.1
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@
  Terminal-31
  TurtleArt-104
  TypingTurtle-26
-Wikipedia-20
-WikipediaEN-21
+Wikipedia-22
+WikipediaEN-22
  Words-4
-Write-63.3
+Write-63.4
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Re: 10.1.3 release date

2010-12-16 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 12/16/2010 07:18 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> We are working hard hard on it. It's a bit delayed because getting
> rotate running well has been much more complex than expected -- Jon
> Nettleton and James Cameron have just now -- 5 minutes ago -- found
> the root cause of a glitch that was holding us up.
>
> So we are on the final stretch - won't promise a date yet, but you're
> welcome to make your test builds from our 10.1.3 repos, so you can be
> checking in parallel that there are no conflicts / issues and then
> spin your build soon after we release.
>
> Your test reports will also be welcome!
>
> cheers -
>
>
> m

Hi Sridhar,

would be great if you could contribute to these testing efforts [1]. We 
are particularly interested in possible regressions at this stage and 
testing of the new Features etc.

I am also working on the release notes in the next days, so you know 
what to expect [2].

Thanks,
Simon

[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/10.1.3/Testing
[2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.3
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10.1.3 Testing page available

2010-12-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi,

we have a page [1] available where you are invited to gather your
10.1.3 testing results. We hope to find out more quickly possibly
introduced regressions and get a sense of what works well. There are
some tests where details about the hardware you used are of interest to
us (e.g. Internet connection, USB2VGA). And of course, we hope it is fun 
for you to see a page like this grow!

Each 10.1.3 Feature has a section where you can comment. There are as
well some more generic tests like connecting to the Internet and
backwards compatibility tests. The last section has a list of bugs that
we think are important to test.

The current build available as of today is os358. All of the tests in
the page works as well with os357 if you have already downloaded that
one. The difference between os357 and os358 is *only* a new WikipediaEN, 
WikipediaES and a new Write and Paint activity.

Looking forward to the results,
 Simon

[1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/10.1.3/Testing
[2] http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/
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Re: USB to VGA

2010-12-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 12/09/2010 02:28 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Kevin Gordon  wrote:
>> Both 1.5's with both Startechs, with both monitors:  If the monitor is
>> already turned on, and already plugged into the USB port on the XO 1.5
>> before cold boot, the external monitor becomes active and looks fantastice,
>> every time.  This works on both the Sugar and Gnome boots.  System doesnt
>> seem to care if anyting else has been plugged into the USB port between
>> boots, still comes up first time every time.
>
> Great. Besides looking fantastic, does it work well? ;-)
>
>> Both 1.0's with both Startechs with both monitors:  If the monitor is
>> already turned on, and already plugged into the USB port on the XO 1.0
>> before cold boot, the external monitor becomes active and looks fantastic,
>> most the time.  This is the case on both the Sugar and Gnome boots.  The
>> most the time comes from :  If I have plugged a different USB device into
>> the port between boots, the XO 1.0 stalls at the 'third dot around the
>> circle' during boot and flashes the external monitor.
>
> That is very strange. Can you elaborate on the "a different usb
> device"? Can you give us exact steps to repro?
>
>> I have had absolutely no success in plugging any adapter with any monitor
>> into any of the XO's after XO is up.  LSUSB recognizes the adapter, but
>> doesn't activate the external monitor.
>
> Correct. We cannot reconfigure while running. You can in some cases
> where the 2 video ports are on the same card and you have recent
> drivers. But not inserting a new video device as we do in this case.
>
>> I have had no success in unplugging the adapter while the external monitor
>> is active.  The internal XO display does not come back active, and
>> replugging the external adapter does not bring the external monitor back
>> active.  Oops, now need to Power off again.
>
> Please try this again -- the external monitor will take a few seconds
> but in my testing it does come back.
>
>> Another little note, when the external becomes active when booting the Sugar
>> desktop, the internal display goes blank, once the External goes active.
>> When booting on the Gnome side, the internal display continues to display a
>> sort of console output, but it remains static.
>
> Minor oddity I guess.
>
> thanks for the testing!
>
>
>
> m

Hi Kevin,

thanks for testing. You might as well like to log your findings here: 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/10.1.3/Testing#USB2VGA_Adapter_usage

Thanks,
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Re: New 10.1.3 build os357 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-12-09 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 12/09/2010 03:10 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:43 AM, Simon Schampijer  wrote:
>> =Builds=
>> http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os357
>> http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os357
>
> Yay for another build. Getting closer.
>
> Testers note - there's a mis-step I think on the Wikipedia side --
> WikipediaEN-21 has a few issues, so it's not really The Real Deal, I'm
> cooking a WikipediaEN-22 today.
>
> What is ready and in good shape is Wikipedia Spanish (Wikipedia-22) --
> grab it from http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/wikipedia_es/ -- be aware
> that to test it you must *remove* WikipediaEN before installation.
>
> (There's a "duelling Wikipedias" bug in recent Sugar builds,
> activities with very similar names get mixed up internally. We're
> fixing that so both Wikipedias can coexist.)
>
>> -xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc11.i586
>> +xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-2.fc11.i586
>
> What's this? Is it the boot-time "don't unfreeze dcon" fix?
>

* Add getcrtc and freezedcon patches, avoids #10196

Adjusted the log.

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New 10.1.3 build os357 for XO-1 and XO-1.5 (was: New 10.1.3 build os355 for XO-1 and XO-1.5)

2010-12-09 Thread Simon Schampijer
OLPC build 10.1.3 - 357
=

The 'no excuse' or 
read-my-homework-I-made-with-0.82-and-stored-on-my-usb-stick build.


=Builds=
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os357
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os357


=Description of changes in this build=

==sugar==
* Convert Journal entries that have been saved to a storage device in 
0.82 #9658
* Possibility to share Journal entry using a storage device #9657
* Adjust copyright in Control Panel #10273
* Journal bundle removal won't remove installed activity #10486

==etoys==
* added translation: hi, ta
* update translations: de, mn, vi
* use compressed sources file (EtoysV4.stc) To take up less space on 
machines with a non-compressing file system (i.e., about anything except 
XO-1, but in particular the XO-1.5) this version uses a compressed 
sources file (before: 18 MB, now: 4.5 MB).

==olpc-powerd==
* better power logging

==sratch==
* new camera plugin 0.8, fixes import from camera on XO-1 #10413

==WikipediaEN== (only available on the XO-1.5)
* Faster page loading #10147


=Package changes since build 355=
--- os355/os355.packages.txt 2010-11-25 11:30:37.0 -0500
+++ os357/os357.packages.txt 2010-12-09 03:51:42.0 -0500
@@ -106,7 +106,7 @@
  eog-2.26.3-1.fc11.i586
  espeak-1.40.02-2.fc11.i586
  ethtool-6-4.20090306git.fc11.i586
-etoys-4.0.2339-1.fc11.noarch
+etoys-4.0.2340-2.noarch
  evince-2.26.2-1.fc11.i586
  evince-djvu-2.26.2-1.fc11.i586
  evolution-data-server-2.26.3-2.fc11.i586
@@ -479,8 +479,8 @@
  olpc-kbdshim-15-1.fc11.i586
  olpc-library-2.0.4-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-netutils-0.8-1.fc11.noarch
-olpc-powerd-31-1.fc11.i586
-olpc-powerd-dbus-31-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-powerd-32-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-powerd-dbus-32-1.fc11.i586
  olpc-switch-desktop-0.7-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-update-2.23-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-utils-1.0.31-1.fc11.i586
@@ -605,7 +605,7 @@
  strace-4.5.19-1.fc11.i586
  stunnel-4.26-3.i586
  sudo-1.7.2p6-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-0.84.25-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-0.84.26-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-artwork-0.84.4-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-base-0.84.2-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-datastore-0.84.1-1.fc11.i586
@@ -677,7 +677,7 @@
  xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.2.0-6.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.2.6-1.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-0.4.0-4.fc11.i586
-xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc11.i586
+xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-2.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.3.2-3.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-mouse-1.4.0-2.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-sisusb-0.9.1-2.fc11.i586


=Activity changes since build 355=
--- os355/os355.activities.txt2010-11-26 05:20:16.0 -0500
+++ os357/os357.activities.txt2010-12-09 05:05:41.0 -0500
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
  Chat-65
  Colors-15
  Distance-21
-Etoys-113
+Etoys-115
  Finance-3
  GetBooks-5
  Help-12
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
  Read-87.1
  Record-86
  Ruler-3
-Scratch-16
+Scratch-17
  SocialCalcActivity-5
  Speak-18
  StopWatch-4
@@ -36,6 +36,6 @@
  TurtleArt-104
  TypingTurtle-26
  Wikipedia-20
-WikipediaEN-20
+WikipediaEN-21
  Words-4
  Write-63.3
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New 10.1.3 build os355 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-12-09 Thread Simon Schampijer
OLPC build 10.1.3 - 357
=

The 'no excuse' or 
read-my-homework-I-made-with-0.82-and-stored-on-my-usb-stick build.


=Builds=
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os357
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os357


=Description of changes in this build=

==sugar==
* Convert Journal entries that have been saved to a storage device in 
0.82 #9658
* Possibility to share Journal entry using a storage device #9657
* Adjust copyright in Control Panel #10273
* Journal bundle removal won't remove installed activity #10486

==etoys==
* added translation: hi, ta
* update translations: de, mn, vi
* use compressed sources file (EtoysV4.stc) To take up less space on 
machines with a non-compressing file system (i.e., about anything except 
XO-1, but in particular the XO-1.5) this version uses a compressed 
sources file (before: 18 MB, now: 4.5 MB).

==olpc-powerd==
* better power logging

==sratch==
* new camera plugin 0.8, fixes import from camera on XO-1 #10413

==WikipediaEN== (only available on the XO-1.5)
* Faster page loading #10147


=Package changes since build 355=
--- os355/os355.packages.txt 2010-11-25 11:30:37.0 -0500
+++ os357/os357.packages.txt 2010-12-09 03:51:42.0 -0500
@@ -106,7 +106,7 @@
  eog-2.26.3-1.fc11.i586
  espeak-1.40.02-2.fc11.i586
  ethtool-6-4.20090306git.fc11.i586
-etoys-4.0.2339-1.fc11.noarch
+etoys-4.0.2340-2.noarch
  evince-2.26.2-1.fc11.i586
  evince-djvu-2.26.2-1.fc11.i586
  evolution-data-server-2.26.3-2.fc11.i586
@@ -479,8 +479,8 @@
  olpc-kbdshim-15-1.fc11.i586
  olpc-library-2.0.4-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-netutils-0.8-1.fc11.noarch
-olpc-powerd-31-1.fc11.i586
-olpc-powerd-dbus-31-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-powerd-32-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-powerd-dbus-32-1.fc11.i586
  olpc-switch-desktop-0.7-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-update-2.23-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-utils-1.0.31-1.fc11.i586
@@ -605,7 +605,7 @@
  strace-4.5.19-1.fc11.i586
  stunnel-4.26-3.i586
  sudo-1.7.2p6-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-0.84.25-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-0.84.26-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-artwork-0.84.4-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-base-0.84.2-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-datastore-0.84.1-1.fc11.i586
@@ -677,7 +677,7 @@
  xorg-x11-drv-cirrus-1.2.0-6.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.2.6-1.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-fbdev-0.4.0-4.fc11.i586
-xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc11.i586
+xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-2.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-keyboard-1.3.2-3.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-mouse-1.4.0-2.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-sisusb-0.9.1-2.fc11.i586


=Activity changes since build 355=
--- os355/os355.activities.txt  2010-11-26 05:20:16.0 -0500
+++ os357/os357.activities.txt  2010-12-09 05:05:41.0 -0500
@@ -4,7 +4,7 @@
  Chat-65
  Colors-15
  Distance-21
-Etoys-113
+Etoys-115
  Finance-3
  GetBooks-5
  Help-12
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
  Read-87.1
  Record-86
  Ruler-3
-Scratch-16
+Scratch-17
  SocialCalcActivity-5
  Speak-18
  StopWatch-4
@@ -36,6 +36,6 @@
  TurtleArt-104
  TypingTurtle-26
  Wikipedia-20
-WikipediaEN-20
+WikipediaEN-21
  Words-4
  Write-63.3
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Re: XO1 new builds

2010-11-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/27/2010 05:20 PM, Kevin Gordon wrote:
> Resolved ...thanks for the quick response. I now have a 1.0 F14,a 1.0 os355,
> a 1.5 F14 and a 1.5 355 to use for A-B testing.  I may actually finish
> testing the USB microscopes before noon!

If your usb microscopes have been affected by 
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10378 you might want to report back here.

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New 10.1.3 build os355 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi,

a new build in our 10.1.3 cycle is available!

This fixes the activity updater where a regression was introduced due to 
switching to the new dotted activity scheme. Please test this thoroughly.

If you have a USB-VGA converter you might want to use the XO to run a 
presentation. Martin has made several fixes in this area.

Last but not least, we have updated certain activities. The new versions 
of Browse and Write fixes two regressions (good that we have Sam to find 
these). TurtleArt contain the most changes, feedback is highly 
appreciated here. From the extra activities that are available on the 
XO-1.5 Jukebox and Physics contain now the latest versions.

Thanks for these new versions to our activity heros, and Mister activity 
himself - Gonzalo!

Regards,
Simon


OLPC build 10.1.3 - 355 (XO-1)
=

The activity updater build.


=Builds=
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os355
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os355


=Description of changes in this build=

==olpc-utils==
* Fixes for "Make SISUSBVGA devices trivial to use" #10210
** XO-1 and XO-1.5 now only run the external screen, disabling the 
internal display. No mirroring. This is significantly faster, and 
removes various bugs and issues -- for example keyboard mappings.
** DPMS is off
** Xephyr is no longer needed (should not get dragged into the build)
** We use 16-bit on XO-1.5

==Browse==
* Fixed regression in: Browse fails to download some files with 
non-ascii characters #8857

==Write==
* Fixed regression in: Add the option to export to PDF #10442

==bitfrost==
* Fixed regression in: New activity version support #10379

==sugar-toolkit==
* bundlebuilder: install mimetypes.xml and associated icon #10427
* Apply new version scheme as well to content bundles #10379

=Package changes since build 354=
-- os354/os354.packages.txt  2010-11-22 04:03:24.0 -0500
+++ os355/os355.packages.txt 2010-11-25 11:30:37.0 -0500
@@ -30,7 +30,7 @@
  bind-libs-9.6.2-3.P1.fc11.i586
  bind-utils-9.6.2-3.P1.fc11.i586
  binutils-2.19.51.0.14-3.fc11.i586
-bitfrost-1.0.10-2.fc11.i586
+bitfrost-1.0.10-3.fc11.i586
  bluecurve-cursor-theme-8.0.2-3.fc11.noarch
  boost-1.37.0-9.fc11.i586
  bootfw-q2e45-1.olpc2.unsigned.i386
@@ -483,7 +483,7 @@
  olpc-powerd-dbus-31-1.fc11.i586
  olpc-switch-desktop-0.7-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-update-2.23-1.fc11.noarch
-olpc-utils-1.0.30-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-utils-1.0.31-1.fc11.i586
  OpenEXR-libs-1.6.1-8.fc11.i586
  openjpeg-libs-1.3-5.fc11.i586
  openldap-2.4.15-7.fc11.i586
@@ -610,7 +610,7 @@
  sugar-base-0.84.2-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-datastore-0.84.1-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-presence-service-0.84.3-1.fc11.noarch
-sugar-toolkit-0.84.14-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-toolkit-0.84.15-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-update-control-0.23-2.fc11.noarch
  symlinks-1.4-2.fc11.i586
  system-config-firewall-tui-1.2.16-3.fc11.noarch
@@ -687,7 +687,6 @@
  xorg-x11-font-utils-7.2-7.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-server-common-1.6.4-0.3.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-server-utils-7.4-7.1.fc11.i586
-xorg-x11-server-Xephyr-1.6.4-0.3.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.4-0.3.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-utils-7.4-4.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-xauth-1.0.2-6.fc11.i586

=Activity changes since build 354=
--- os354/os354.activities.txt  2010-11-22 04:03:12.0 -0500
+++ os355/os355.activities.txt  2010-11-25 11:30:17.0 -0500
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-Browse-108.1
+Browse-108.2
  Calculate-30
  Chat-65
  Distance-21
@@ -21,5 +21,5 @@
  TamTamMini-52
  TamTamSynthLab-53
  Terminal-31
-TurtleArt-88
-Write-63.2
+TurtleArt-104
+Write-63.3




OLPC build 10.1.3 - 355 (XO 1.5)
=

The activity updater build.


=Builds=
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os355
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os355


=Description of changes in this build=

==olpc-utils==
* Fixes for "Make SISUSBVGA devices trivial to use" #10210
** XO-1 and XO-1.5 now only run the external screen, disabling the 
internal display. No mirroring. This is significantly faster, and 
removes various bugs and issues -- for example keyboard mappings.
** DPMS is off
** Xephyr is no longer needed (should not get dragged into the build)
** We use 16-bit on XO-1.5

==Browse==
* Fixed regression in: Browse fails to download some files with 
non-ascii characters #8857

==Write==
* Fixed regression in: Add the option to export to PDF #10442

==bitfrost==
* Fixed regression in: New activity version support #10379

==sugar-toolkit==
* bundlebuilder: install mimetypes.xml and associated icon #10427
* Apply new version scheme as well to content bundles #10379

==Physics==
* Fix for cpu idling events when in background special case for Sugar 0.84.
* Physics now idles when in the background to free up the cpu and save 
power.
* Saves thumbnail image of simulation for details view in Journal.
* Better behaviour when attempting to create minimum sized triangles, 
boxes, and circles (SL#1249).
* Fixed new toolbars expanding separator f

New 10.1.3 build os354 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
OLPC build 10.1.3 - 354
=

The wake up on multicast packages build.


=Builds=
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os354
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os354


=Description of changes in this build=

==olpc-powerd==
* Better collaboration support when idle suspend is enabled #9535
* Do not wake up on lid open on XO-1 #10424

==kernel==
* Support for uvcvideo #10378
* Lid wakeups on XO-1 are now implemented via new /sys/power/wake-on-lid 
node #10398, #10399, #10424

==sugar-update-control and bitfrost==
* Add new activity numbering scheme to the activity updater #10397

==squeak-vm==
* Remove MySqueak option from GNOME #9785

==Write==
* Don't set the activity metadata property when save PDF file
because Write can save PDF files but can't open them #10442
* The mime types from files rtf and html have text/plain in mime_parents.
We need to modify the criteria to open them like rich text #8972

==Read==
* Fix Epub support (regression introduced in 353, packaging issue, there 
is no new activity version) #1045


=Package changes since build 353=
--- os353/os353.packages.txt 2010-11-15 07:49:24.0 -0500
+++ os354/os354.packages.txt 2010-11-22 04:03:24.0 -0500
@@ -30,7 +30,7 @@
  bind-libs-9.6.2-3.P1.fc11.i586
  bind-utils-9.6.2-3.P1.fc11.i586
  binutils-2.19.51.0.14-3.fc11.i586
-bitfrost-1.0.10-1.fc11.i586
+bitfrost-1.0.10-2.fc11.i586
  bluecurve-cursor-theme-8.0.2-3.fc11.noarch
  boost-1.37.0-9.fc11.i586
  bootfw-q2e45-1.olpc2.unsigned.i386
@@ -250,8 +250,8 @@
  jwhois-4.0-14.fc11.i586
  kacst-fonts-2.0-2.fc11.noarch
  kbd-1.15-7.fc11.i586
-kernel-2.6.31_xo1-20100823.1641.1.olpc.12d64069981699a.i586
-kernel-firmware-2.6.31_xo1-20100823.1641.1.olpc.12d64069981699a.i586
+kernel-2.6.31_xo1-20101119.1249.1.olpc.3781c4e5eac361a.i586
+kernel-firmware-2.6.31_xo1-20101119.1249.1.olpc.3781c4e5eac361a.i58
  keyutils-libs-1.2-5.fc11.i586
  khmeros-base-fonts-5.0-6.fc11.noarch
  khmeros-fonts-common-5.0-6.fc11.noarch
@@ -479,8 +479,8 @@
  olpc-kbdshim-15-1.fc11.i586
  olpc-library-2.0.4-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-netutils-0.8-1.fc11.noarch
-olpc-powerd-29-1.fc11.i586
-olpc-powerd-dbus-29-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-powerd-31-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-powerd-dbus-31-1.fc11.i586
  olpc-switch-desktop-0.7-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-update-2.23-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-utils-1.0.30-1.fc11.i586
@@ -599,7 +599,7 @@
  soundtouch-1.4.0-2.fc11.i586
  speex-1.2-0.11.rc1.fc11.i586
  sqlite-3.6.20-1.fc11.i586
-squeak-vm-3.10.5-3.fc11.i586
+squeak-vm-3.10.5-4.fc11.i586
  ssmtp-2.61-11.9.fc11.i586
  startup-notification-0.9-6.fc11.i586
  strace-4.5.19-1.fc11.i586
@@ -611,7 +611,7 @@
  sugar-datastore-0.84.1-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-presence-service-0.84.3-1.fc11.noarch
  sugar-toolkit-0.84.14-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-update-control-0.23-1.fc11.noarch
+sugar-update-control-0.23-2.fc11.noarch
  symlinks-1.4-2.fc11.i586
  system-config-firewall-tui-1.2.16-3.fc11.noarch
  system-config-network-tui-1.5.97-1.fc11.noarch


=Activity changes since build 352=
--- os353/os353.activities.txt  2010-11-15 07:49:09.0 -0500
+++ os354/os354.activities.txt  2010-11-22 04:03:12.0 -0500
@@ -22,4 +22,4 @@
  TamTamSynthLab-53
  Terminal-31
  TurtleArt-88
-Write-63.1
+Write-63.2
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Re: F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/22/2010 11:55 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 09:03:28AM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>> I think we should add a Version field for F14 (e.g. 1.5/1.0 software
>> Build F14).
>
> I disagree.  The version field is for formal releases.  The reporter of
> a bug may use "Development build as of this date" for the current F14
> builds.  Identify the build version in the keywords field.  This has
> been our practice for the past year.

"Development build as of this date" is ambiguous as we have the 10.1.3 
stream and the F14 stream :/

> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:36:03AM +, Daniel Drake wrote:
>> You could even simplify it a step further: just put all of them in the
>> F14 milestone without thought. As the scope of the release is not yet
>> defined it's not really possible to do a "real" triage. And knowing
>> what bugs are there could also help us define that scope.
>
> I agree, just throw them into the F14 milestone.
>
> trac does not allow us to easily manage tickets for multiple release
> engineering streams.  If you sense a fight over which milestone a ticket
> should be in (10.1.3 vs F14), then I suggest opening a new ticket.

Yeah, I guess I have to do that then. The bad thing is that I have to 
touch tickets then and can not pass that to the reporter by indicating 
the version number. For anyone working on the F14 builds please make 
sure to set the milestone then accordingly on the tickets you are touching.

At least I could stop the initial request from a reporter setting 
milestones ;p

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Re: F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/22/2010 10:59 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On 22 November 2010 09:24, Simon Schampijer  wrote:
>> We have to do that at some point when we want to do a "serious" release. In
>> any case, I think reporters should indicate a version. We should not abuse
>> the milestone field to get that information.
>
> If someone is doing that already for 10.1.3 (you? Sam?) could we
> additionally ask them to do triage for F14? I guess they are already
> having to look at all the bugs anyway just in case they are
> 10.1.3-related.
>
> Daniel

Yes, we do triage bugs for 10.1.3. Until 10.1.3 is out in mid December I 
don't want to get into F14 triaging. However as I have to read all the 
bugs anyhow, as you mentioned, I can make sure the version field is set 
correctly in new incoming bugs (and if I am sure it is a blocker for a 
F14 release I can set the milestone as well). That should be good enough 
for now to know what bugs one wants to work on for F14. Is that a good 
compromise?

(The Milestone field I really see as a way to manage the work.)
Regards,
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Re: F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/22/2010 10:08 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On 22 November 2010 08:03, Simon Schampijer  wrote:
>> I think we should add a Version field for F14 (e.g. 1.5/1.0 software Build
>> F14). That field is set by the reporter of an issue. The milestone is set by
>> the development team/maintainer to triage his work, when he thinks that
>> issue can/will be handled.
>
> Sounds good as long as someone is going to offer to triage all new
> incoming bugs..?
>
> Daniel
>

We have to do that at some point when we want to do a "serious" release. 
In any case, I think reporters should indicate a version. We should not 
abuse the milestone field to get that information.

Regards,
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Re: F14 os2 testing images available for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/21/2010 08:54 PM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Simon has built new Fedora 14 images for XO-1 and XO-1.5, available here:
> http://build.laptop.org/F14/os2/
>
> These efforts are now official so we'll step towards making this into
> a proper release. There are still some pretty obvious issues though,
> which we'll be working through.
>
> Bug reports are now accepted, please put them in the "F14" milestone
> on http://dev.laptop.org.

I think we should add a Version field for F14 (e.g. 1.5/1.0 software 
Build F14). That field is set by the reporter of an issue. The milestone 
is set by the development team/maintainer to triage his work, when he 
thinks that issue can/will be handled.

Regards,
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Re: Upgrading a _very_ old OLPC

2010-11-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/17/2010 06:53 PM, Sameer Verma wrote:
> Krishnan is local to SF. We'll help him get upgraded.
>
> Sameer

Depending on the data you want to save, you might just save the content 
of home (Jounal) and reflash the machine with the current stable build 
(and then copy that stuff back in).

Cheers,
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New 10.1.3 build os353 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
OLPC build 10.1.3 - 353
=

The dotted activity version build.

=Builds=
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os353
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os353


=Description of changes in this build=

==General==
We do have 8g builds now for the XO-1.5.

==sugar==
* Adapt bundle registry to use the new activity version scheme #10379
* Sugar Ad-hoc icons show in search results when connect/disconnect to 
AP OLPC #10412

==sugar-toolkit==
* Add new activity numbering scheme #10379

==Browse==
* Web activity uses gettext on file name #6874
* History not right when resuming activity #10437
* Add Home Button in Browse #10364
* Browse fails to download some files with non-ascii characters #8857
* Can not save pictures from the olpc library with Browse to Journal #10365
* Palettes in Browse do not always go away #10407

==Distance==
* Changes ringdown values for more stable measures (part of #10122)

==Paint==
* Use new color chooser (still use ColorSelector for <= 0.82) #1015
* Fixed aspect ratio mode for Shape tools #3705
* New suggestion for arrow drawing in Paint #4170
* Changes made to save the last added text item #5917
* Paint - Rect. Marquee icon changes erratically #5882
* Implemented Mirroring Effect in Paint Activity - SL#2463
* Added Invert Color Effect to Paint Activity - OLPC #2495
* Title for 'Rectangular Marquee' tool changed to 'Select Area' - SL #2266
* Paint starts with a random color selected SL #2053
* Paste images from clipboard - SL #813, #9022
* paint overwrites file type instead of creating new file - SL #1771
* Slider bar should change brush and line width - #8865
* Tools & Shapes would be a radio button set - #3695 and #3694
* Active point of Paint pointers should be at tip of pencil, brush, drip 
on fill bucket, etc - SL #296
* The free form polygon tool should be in the shapes toolbar - OLPC #3693
* turn off activity sharing - SL #1863
* Make "keep aspect ratio" selection visible in the UI. - SL #931
* Under tools tab, pencil size functionality is not working - SL #1902
* Change in the icon activity to avoid errors in new librsvg
* Clean up cursors
* Add binary files to python 2.7

==Write==
* Change the default method to insert images #3066 and #7405. This adds 
a checkbox to enable the user to select the method
* Preserve the mime type when reading and saving files. Related to 
tickets #8972, #5291, #1925 and SL #2127.
* Add option to export to PDF - SL #1458
* Paste images in write #2507 and #7186. Now you can copy an image from 
Paint, Browse or Write and paste in Write.

==Read==
* Add scrolling options for PDFs #10396

==Help==
* Fix permissions for HTML pages: use 0644
* Fix icon for F13 changes in rendering #8513
* Use go-home icon #8575, #10267
* Add view toolbar, with zoom in, zoom out and full screen buttons
* Remove width from content section in css to improve screen usage
* Merge with latest XO 1.5 branch

==Pippy==
* Cannot start "Thanks" example #10384
* Add EditToolbar & modify toolbars for <=0.84 compatibility #10395
* Fix svg icons for Pippy
* Remove the 'dobject'/groupthink sub-module
* Switch activity.info from class to exec


=Package changes since build 352=

--- os352/os352.packages.txt 2010-11-05 10:05:47.0 -0400
+++ os353/os353.packages.txt 2010-11-15 03:19:59.0 -0500
@@ -608,12 +608,12 @@
  strace-4.5.19-1.fc11.i586
  stunnel-4.26-3.i586
  sudo-1.7.2p6-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-0.84.24-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-0.84.25-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-artwork-0.84.4-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-base-0.84.2-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-datastore-0.84.1-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-presence-service-0.84.3-1.fc11.noarch
-sugar-toolkit-0.84.13-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-toolkit-0.84.14-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-update-control-0.23-1.fc11.noarch
  symlinks-1.4-2.fc11.i586


=Activity changes since build 352=

--- os352/os352.activities.txt  2010-11-04 06:15:13.0 -0400
+++ os353/os353.activities.txt  2010-11-15 07:49:09.0 -0500
@@ -1,18 +1,18 @@
-Browse-108
+Browse-108.1
  Calculate-30
  Chat-65
-Distance-20
+Distance-21
  Etoys-113
-Help-11
+Help-12
  Implode-9
  Log-20
  Maze-6
  Measure-31
  Memorize-35
  Moon-11
-Paint-27
-Pippy-35
-Read-86
+Paint-29
+Pippy-38
+Read-87.1
  Record-86
  Scratch-16
  Speak-18
@@ -22,4 +22,4 @@
  TamTamSynthLab-53
  Terminal-31
  TurtleArt-88
-Write-63
+Write-63.1
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New 10.1.3 build os352 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
OLPC build 10.1.3 - 352
=

The "happy rotate" build.

=Builds=
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os352
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os352


=Description of changes in this build=

=olpc-utils==
* add config for screen rotation (part of #9350)
* Enable SiSUSB support (part of #10210)

==xorg-x11-drv-sisusb==
* Make SISUSBVGA devices trivial to use #10210

==xulrunner==
* Firefox does not start in GNOME #10425 (regression from 351)


=Package changes since build 351=

--- os351/os351.packages.txt2010-10-28 08:47:58.0 -0400
+++ os352/os352.packages.txt2010-11-04 08:48:33.0 -0400
@@ -486,7 +486,7 @@
  olpc-runin-tests-0.9.20-1.noarch
  olpc-switch-desktop-0.7-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-update-2.23-1.fc11.noarch
-olpc-utils-1.0.28-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-utils-1.0.30-1.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.990-1.fc11.i586
+xorg-x11-drv-sisusb-0.9.1-2.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.2.0-3.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-void-1.2.0-1.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-filesystem-7.3-4.fc11.noarch
  xorg-x11-font-utils-7.2-7.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-server-common-1.6.4-0.3.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-server-utils-7.4-7.1.fc11.i586
+xorg-x11-server-Xephyr-1.6.4-0.3.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.4-0.3.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-utils-7.4-4.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-xauth-1.0.2-6.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-9.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-xkb-utils-7.2-8.fc11.i586
  xterm-242-3.fc11.i586
-xulrunner-1.9.1.10-2.fc11.i586
-xulrunner-python-1.9.1.10-2.fc11.i586
+xulrunner-1.9.1.9-2.fc11.i586
+xulrunner-python-1.9.1.9-2.fc11.i586
  xz-4.999.9-0.1.beta.20091007git.fc11.i586
  xz-libs-4.999.9-0.1.beta.20091007git.fc11.i586
  xz-lzma-compat-4.999.9-0.1.beta.20091007git.fc11.i586
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Re: customizing olpc-os-builder image

2010-11-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/04/2010 06:36 AM, Mike Dawson wrote:
> Well one choice as discussed before would be to use the modules I
> already wrote that do exactly that:
>
> OS Builder Module: www.paiwastoon.af/otherdownloads/afcustomization.tar.gz
> www.paiwastoon.af/otherdownloads/f11-xo1-g4.ini
>
> Unfortunately I don't think modifying ksmain will be enough because
> olpc-configure will come along and change whatever was there in the
> first place, unless one modifies it. olpc-configure changes it
> according to the hardware info / SKU.  For Afghanistan this is set to
> be a Dari keyboard AFAIK.  The afcustomization script depends on a
> bundle - that can be uploaded this evening.  Just more practical here
> than telling it download locations such as the way that activities
> module works.

Yeah, bumped into that the other day, too. I think it would be great to 
have an option in the builder for the language the image should come up 
with.

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Re: [Dextrose] New 10.1.3 build os351 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-03 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/04/2010 04:50 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 14:11 -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Daniel Castelo
>>   wrote:
>>> With this steps If I press the rotate button the screen changes, but the
>>> behavior is not appropriate.
>>
>> Grab latest olpc-utils rpm from
>> http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/public_rpms/10.1.3/ , reboot and retry.
>>
>> If you still see problems, you gotta tell us more detail.
>
> Can you drop this new package in your public_rpms on dev.laptop.org? So
> it will appear in the repo from which dextrose pulls.
>

It is now:

http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~dsd/repos/f11/

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Re: New 10.1.3 build os351 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-11-03 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 11/03/2010 01:18 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Daniel Castelo
>   wrote:
>> Can I install this 2 GB image in a XO with 8 GB for test purpose?
>
> Yes. And if you can put the SD card on a different machine you can use
> resize2fs on it.
>
>
>
> m

Yeah - I have only build the 2GB images for now due to size constraints 
on the build machine. Yes, you can install it on a machine with 2GB. 
There will be 8GB images soon, too.

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New 10.1.3 build os351 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-10-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
OLPC build 10.1.3 - 351
=

The "rotation" build.

=Builds=
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os351
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os351

=Description of changes in this build=

==sugar*==
* Disable start option for entries that can't be opened #8733 (Mukul 
Gupta)
* Cleanup temporary files on startup #10301 (Simon Schampijer) 

* restore sugar-launch by bundle id substring, fixes #9189 (James Cameron)
* New go-home icon, needed by Browse #10364 (Gary C Martin)
* Remove shared activity from the neighborhood view when no members left 
#10308 (Simon Schampijer)
* Deal with unicode nick names #889 (moved patch from rpm into 
repository) (Simon Schampijer)

==olpc-kbdshim==
* dpad rotates wrong #10380

==olpc-powerd==
* avoids resume from suspend when lid opens #10402

==xorg-x11-drv-openchrome==
* Screen rotation support for XO-1.5 #9350

==memorize==
* Game not transferred when loading a created game #10302


=Package changes since build 351=

-olpc-kbdshim-14-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-kbdshim-15-1.fc11.i586
  olpc-library-2.0.4-1.fc11.noarch
  olpc-netutils-0.8-1.fc11.noarch
-olpc-powerd-26-1.fc11.i586
-olpc-powerd-dbus-26-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-powerd-29-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-powerd-dbus-29-1.fc11.i586
  sudo-1.7.2p6-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-0.84.23-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-artwork-0.84.3-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-0.84.24-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-artwork-0.84.4-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-base-0.84.2-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-datastore-0.84.1-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-presence-service-0.84.2-1.fc11.noarch
+sugar-presence-service-0.84.3-1.fc11.noarch
  sugar-toolkit-0.84.13-1.fc11.i586
-xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-6.3.fc11.i586
+xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.990-1.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-vesa-2.2.0-3.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-drv-void-1.2.0-1.fc11.i586
  xorg-x11-filesystem-7.3-4.fc11.noarch
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Re: New 10.1.3 build os350 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-10-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/25/2010 01:48 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi,
>
> >  Is olpc-update of this build available?
>
> That requires me to tell updates.laptop.org about the new build
> stream, which I'll do when I have more free time/return from Taipei.
>
> Thanks,

Ok, thanks. I did not tested that obviously.

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New 10.1.3 build os350 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-10-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
OLPC build 10.1.3 - 350
=

The "busy cursor" build.

=Builds=
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1/os350
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/xo-1.5/os350

=Description of changes in this build=

==Sugar==
* Journal: Show alert when error occurs while writing to external 
devices #10312
* AP: separate signal strength from status #10347
* Add default Ad-hoc networks #9845
* Connect to gabble immediately when possible #10350
* Unable to register a laptop after trying on the wrong network #6857
* Feedback when deleting files on an external device #10351
* Do not break if the string contains no conversion specifier #10372
* Save title when closing #10346

==Browse (xulrunner)==
* Browse has no "busy" indication #10383

=Package changes since build 852=

-sugar-0.84.22-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-artwork-0.84.2-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-0.84.23-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-artwork-0.84.3-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-base-0.84.2-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-datastore-0.84.1-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-presence-service-0.84.1-1.fc11.noarch
-sugar-toolkit-0.84.12-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-presence-service-0.84.2-1.fc11.noarch
+sugar-toolkit-0.84.13-1.fc11.i586
  sugar-update-control-0.23-1.fc11.noarch
  xorg-x11-xkb-utils-7.2-8.fc11.i586
-xulrunner-1.9.1.9-1.fc11.i586
-xulrunner-python-1.9.1.9-1.fc11.i586
+xulrunner-1.9.1.10-2.fc11.i586
+xulrunner-python-1.9.1.10-2.fc11.i586
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Re: Where should I put my public_rpms for 10.1.3 ?

2010-10-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/21/2010 02:35 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>
> On 20.10.2010, at 23:44, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>
>> On 10/20/2010 07:10 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>>> Hi Simon,
>>>
>>> as in the past, should it be ~/public_rpms/10.1.3 ? Will that work?
>>
>> Yes, using the public_rpms will work. They will end up under the name of
>> dsd then [1]. Mind that you have to use ~martin/public_rpms and not
>> ~martin/public_html/public_rpms but I am sure you know this already :)
>>
>>> Hello list -- did I forget to mention this? Simon is build-master for
>>> 10.1.3 . Release manager. Culprit-in-chief.
>>>
>>> Mbwa-ha-ha-ha-ha. Little does he know the trouble he's in... ;-)
>>
>> Thanks for the introduction :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Simon
>>
>> [1] http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~dsd/repos/f11/filelist.txt
>
> Awesome news :)
>
> What's the schedule?
>
> - Bert -

We plan to have a release candidate the first of December and release 
the 15th of December.

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Re: Where should I put my public_rpms for 10.1.3 ?

2010-10-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/20/2010 07:10 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> as in the past, should it be ~/public_rpms/10.1.3 ? Will that work?

Yes, using the public_rpms will work. They will end up under the name of 
dsd then [1]. Mind that you have to use ~martin/public_rpms and not 
~martin/public_html/public_rpms but I am sure you know this already :)

> Hello list -- did I forget to mention this? Simon is build-master for
> 10.1.3 . Release manager. Culprit-in-chief.
>
> Mbwa-ha-ha-ha-ha. Little does he know the trouble he's in... ;-)

Thanks for the introduction :)

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~dsd/repos/f11/filelist.txt
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Re: Test request time

2010-10-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/14/2010 11:20 AM, Tabitha Roder wrote:
> Hello world
>
> It is late Thursday night here in NZ so it is the time of the week I start
> looking for what we should download Friday and test in NZ on Saturday
> morning.  Are there any test requests from anyone out there?
>
> I am assuming we are starting with a Sugar 0.90 test of some sort...
> I see some new releases - Sliderule-22, Physics-7, Turtle Blocks-100,
> Jukebox-20 and Numbers-3. Should we test these and is there anything in
> particular (other than the changes described in the release notes) you are
> looking for feedback on? I was hoping that Wordgroupz would be ready for
> testing but I haven't seen that yet.
> We still have to try out creating our own images for Visual Match, and test
> eToys on Sugar 0.90 too.
> The Australians have a new XO-1.5 build they want tested...
>
> Anything else?
>
> Thanks world
>
> Tabitha
> olpc NZ volunteer

Hi Tabitha,

thanks very much for asking. Of course it would be great if you could 
give 0.90 another go. I am updating and uploading new images for testing 
on the XO-1 and XO-1.5 [1]. I would as well like to give you a list of 
fixes that went in the packages you could verify and of course I am 
looking for any other feedback you have.

We will do new Sugar tarballs today (then it takes some hours for the 
rpms, some for new builds...). Until when do you need the builds and the 
instructions?

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://bugs.laptop.org/~erikos/F14_builds/
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Re: #10363 NORM 10.1.3: Auto-Suspend gets in the way when sharing over Salut

2010-10-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/13/2010 12:14 PM, James Cameron wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:47:07AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>> On 10/13/2010 12:29 AM, James Cameron wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 05:27:27PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>>>> For 0.84 we can do what powerd offers, creating a file based on the pid
>>>> in /var/run/powerd-inhibit-suspend/ (those are removed by powerd when it
>>>> goes into suspend the next time).
>>>
>>> If I understand correctly, these are only removed if the process with
>>> the pid no longer exists.  We can rely on /var/run being empty on boot,
>>> since it is a tmpfs.
>>>
>>
>> Right, so in the case of an activity that inhibit suspend because it is
>> shared you have to close the activity in order to get out of that state.
>> There is currently no way to 'un-share' an activity.
>
> That appears to be a Sugar design feature.
>
>> So, in order for powerd to kick in the activity has to be closed and
>> therefore it will remove the file.
>
> powerd will not idle suspend while that file and the matching process is
> present on the system.  If either are not present, powerd may idle
> suspend subject to other data.
>
>> Or do I oversee something why we can not rely on my assumption?
>
> I don't understand this question, sorry.
>
> My reply was specifically aimed at your statement that the files "are
> removed by powerd when it goes into suspend the next time".

Ok, my point was that I do not have to unlink the files in Sugar, since 
powerd takes care of that. I guess we both have the same understanding 
of what powerd does just that we describe it differently. No need to 
discuss here further from my side.

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Re: #10363 NORM 10.1.3: Auto-Suspend gets in the way when sharing over Salut

2010-10-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/13/2010 12:29 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 05:27:27PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>> For 0.84 we can do what powerd offers, creating a file based on the pid
>> in /var/run/powerd-inhibit-suspend/ (those are removed by powerd when it
>> goes into suspend the next time).
>
> If I understand correctly, these are only removed if the process with
> the pid no longer exists.  We can rely on /var/run being empty on boot,
> since it is a tmpfs.
>

Right, so in the case of an activity that inhibit suspend because it is 
shared you have to close the activity in order to get out of that state. 
There is currently no way to 'un-share' an activity. So, in order for 
powerd to kick in the activity has to be closed and therefore it will 
remove the file. Or do I oversee something why we can not rely on my 
assumption?

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Re: #10363 NORM 10.1.3: Auto-Suspend gets in the way when sharing over Salut

2010-10-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/29/2010 08:31 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 21:43, Gonzalo Odiard  wrote:
>> We have this code in many places, I found it in the Distance activity and
>> bitfrost updater.
>> May be is a good idea inhibit suspend when is displayed the neighborhood
>> view also.
>> Can we have a unique class like PowerManager or anything like that?
>
> Good with me if that's the way to go from the POV of the systems
> people, would be great if it could be implemented in Sugar in terms of
> org.freedesktop.UPower, so we don't need to maintain two or more
> backends.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu

So the GNOME hook for inhibiting suspend seems to be in gnome-session 
[1][2]. For 0.92 we can look into possibilities on using that. As we 
already include parts of the gnome session manager code to handle 
shutdown etc we might be able to switch to the gnome session manager 
completely.

For 0.84 we can do what powerd offers, creating a file based on the pid 
in /var/run/powerd-inhibit-suspend/ (those are removed by powerd when it 
goes into suspend the next time). I modified James's example to handle 
the share and join case (in the base activity class). Quite good results 
here in terms of usability.

I guess one wants to inhibit as well when one invite someone to an 
activity. Not sure we need to inhibit suspend when we display the 
neighborhood view. The presence (buddies and activities) should be 
synced when we come out of suspend (Upower+Aavahi [3]). Not sure we need 
as well to inhibit here then.

Regards,
Simon

[1] 
http://people.gnome.org/~mccann/gnome-session/docs/gnome-session.html#org.gnome.SessionManager.Inhibit
[2] 
http://live.gnome.org/GnomePowerManager/FAQ#How_do_I_make_my_application_stop_the_computer_auto-suspending.3F
[3] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/avahi/2010-October/001939.html
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[ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.90 Final Release

2010-10-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sugar community,

Sucrose 0.90 is the latest version of the Sugar learning platform: Sugar 
promotes collaborative learning through Sugar Activities that encourage 
critical thinking, the heart of a quality education. Designed from the 
ground up especially for children, Sugar offers an alternative to 
traditional “office-desktop” software. Furthermore it provides a 
flexible and powerful platform for activity developers.

Sugar is Free and Open Source Software and consists of Glucose, the base 
system environment; and Fructose, a set of demonstration activities. 
This new release contains many new features, performance and code 
improvements, bug fixes, and translations.

Full release notes can be found at:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Notes

Thanks everyone for your great contributions!

On behalf of the Sugar community,
 Your Release Team

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Re: Testing 0.90 on an XO

2010-10-05 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/04/2010 05:22 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been doing 0.90-F14 builds for the XO-1 and XO-1.5. You can grab
> the latest build from [1].
>
> I provide these builds that people that do have XO-hardware can start
> helping testing 0.90. So far, we did not have much testing yet. We just
> released 0.90.0 and want to do a bug fix release at the end of the month
> [2]. So testing and filing good bug reports is highly welcome.
>
> Please use these builds only for reporting back 0.90 issues. There are
> surely issues that are due to integration issues. Leave them for now.
>
> When you report bugs at [3] with these builds please set the Version to
> 0.90 and add the keyword olpc-0.90 to be able differentiate those bugs.
>
> A good first start would be to test the Features [4] that have landed in
> 0.90. Each page does contain a test case. As well the release notes at
> [5] might be of help. And of course, testing different languages and
> smoke tests of all different fashions are welcome.
>
> Regards,
>  Simon


I added the olpc-0.90 keyword to all the bugs that are present in the 
builds [1]. Thanks to Tony Forster a few new ones could be identified.

If you have an XO one can can make sure that the latest 
xorg-x11-drv-geode package does work fine for you and indicate that in 
bodhi [2] that would be great - so the driver will get into the stable 
repository.

The Final Change Deadline for Fedora 14 is the 18th of October [3]. 
Would be great to get as many bugs as possible present in Sugar 0.90 on 
F14 fixed and pushed until then.

Thanks,
Simon


[1] 
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&col=component&keywords=~olpc-0.90

[2] 
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/xorg-x11-drv-geode-2.11.9-1.fc14?_csrf_token=fa12d11a38d93c2c6c1c817bd4390413b87db316

[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/14/Schedule
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Testing 0.90 on an XO

2010-10-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi,

I have been doing 0.90-F14 builds for the XO-1 and XO-1.5. You can grab 
the latest build from [1].

I provide these builds that people that do have XO-hardware can start 
helping testing 0.90. So far, we did not have much testing yet. We just 
released 0.90.0 and want to do a bug fix release at the end of the month 
[2]. So testing and filing good bug reports is highly welcome.

Please use these builds only for reporting back 0.90 issues. There are 
surely issues that are due to integration issues. Leave them for now.

When you report bugs at [3] with these builds please set the Version to 
0.90 and add the keyword olpc-0.90 to be able differentiate those bugs.

A good first start would be to test the Features [4] that have landed in 
0.90. Each page does contain a test case. As well the release notes at 
[5] might be of help. And of course, testing different languages and 
smoke tests of all different fashions are welcome.

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/F14_builds/
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Roadmap#Schedule
[3] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org
[4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Feature_List
[5] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Notes


=== Known Issues ===
Here is a list of current Issues in the builds I have found so far:

- Gnome keyring pops up at first start:
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2339
 ---> At least a new behavior, if not fixable it should be documented
what to do.

- Physics crashes: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2363
 ---> We had a similar issue in Sugar, the same fix can be applied 
here. Gary is working on it as I am writing those lines...

- Calculate does not start: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2245
 ---> Version 34 fixes it, will be in a next build

- Terminal: Can not scroll when using less: "Warning Terminal is not
fully functional". On the XO builds I could not edit files with Vi
neither which works here ok. There was a new version of VTE in
updates-testing (0.26.0-1) but that one did not fix that issue.
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2394
 ---> We have a hint already.

- Activity icon not disappearing from the neighborhood view
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2389
 ---> Tomeu has a fix in Gabble and is verifying now if that happens
on Salut as well.

- Sharing button not updated when resuming a previously-shared activity
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2390
  ---> Tomeu is on that one as well.
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Re: Empty list view

2010-09-29 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/29/2010 01:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:03, javed khan  wrote:
>> here is the log
>
> Seems to be an issue with localization:
>
> /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sugar/util.py in
> timestamp_to_elapsed_string(timestamp=dbus.Double(1285751109.0,
> variant_level=1), max_levels=2)
>  226
>  227 time_period += _ngettext(name_singular, name_plural,
> -->  228  elapsed_units) % elapsed_units
>  elapsed_units = 1
>  229
>  230 elapsed_seconds -= elapsed_units * factor
>
> TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting
>
> Simon and the rest of the Sugar OLPC team are aware of the issue and
> have a fix coming, though not sure if for 0.82.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu

Hi Javed,

funny, how things turn up at the same time. We just worked on that issue 
a a few days ago and have a fix for 0.84 [1].

About a fix for 0.82 - I am not sure about that as I am only involved in 
the 0.84 builds, maybe someone else can comment.

There might be other issues in Arabic languages in 0.84. If you (or 
someone from your team) as a knowledgeable person can have a look at the 
latest builds in [2] and check the latest Arabic localization that would 
be highly appreciated. You can comment your findings at [3] or here on list.

Thanks,
Simon

[1] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10372
[2] http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/official/latest/ or
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1.5/os/official/latest/
[3] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6808
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Introduction

2010-09-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Steven,

On 09/28/2010 01:00 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:46, Steven Parrish  wrote:
>> Some of you may have already heard that I have accepted a position
>> with ActivityCentral to be the project manager for Dextrose.  It feels
>> like I have come full circle as I started out as a volunteer
>> maintaining the "F11 for the XO-1" builds for the past 18 months.
>> That work was very rewarding and I was glad to see OLPC step in and
>> release official builds based on my work.  The "F11 for the XO-1" was
>> also a starting point for the original Dextrose system, which Bernie
>> Innocenti brought to fruition.
>>
>> Now we will be taking the original Dextrose and expanding upon it.
>> Dextrose2 will be the result.  Based on Fedora11 and Sugar 0.88 it
>> will strive for stability, while providing deployments with a
>> customizable product.  I have already started creating builds for the
>> new system with additional language support, and they can be found at
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Dextrose .  The builds will be for both
>> the XO-1 and XO-1.5 and will be available both with Gnome and without.
>>
>> We have a team of developers at SEETA who will be working on this with
>> us.  Many of them are already known to the community and more will
>> become known as they join the effort.
>>
>> I have already started going over the outstanding issues and know that
>> with everyone's help we can make Dextrose the Premier system for XO
>> deployments.
>>
>> The issues that need to be worked on can be found at:
>>
>> http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&col=component&keywords=$love
>>
>> and
>>
>> http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?status=accepted&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&order=priority&col=id&col=summary&col=component&col=status&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&keywords=$extrose
>>
>> If you are already working on any of these tickets please send me a
>> quick note as to which tickets you are working on and what the status
>> is.
>>
>> I look forward to working with everyone.
>
> I'm very happy to read this, look forward to work further with you.
>
> It would be very helpful if any new contributors could take the time
> to present themselves and their plans as you have done.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu

Thanks for your great introduction. It is a good habit to present 
oneself and his role to the community. I would like to encourage others 
to do so as well.

Looking forward to work with you,
Simon



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Re: #10363 NORM 10.1.3: Auto-Suspend gets in the way when sharing over Salut

2010-09-24 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/23/2010 03:55 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 15:30, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:56, Paul Fox  wrote:
>>> tomeu wrote:
>>>   >  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 23:38, Martin Langhoff
>>>   >wrote:
>>>   >  >  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Tomeu 
>>> Vizoso  wrote:
>>>   >  >>  So the problem is that if you had to resync all state for each 
>>> machine
>>>   >  >>  every time they wake up, you would use lots of bandwidth with the
>>>   >  >  (...)
>>>   >  >>  Another issue with this is that you not only want to resync 
>>> presence,
>>>   >  >>  but shared activities also would need to resync their state.
>>>   >  >
>>>   >  >  Correct. My notes on the bug are probably unreadable -- it was late
>>>   >  >  last night, apologies.
>>>   >  >
>>>   >  >  What I mean to say is that we could
>>>   >  >
>>>   >  >  1 - explore the interaction between sleep timeouts and Salut resync
>>>   >  >  frequency for presence
>>>   >  >
>>>   >  >  2 - hack the Tubes/Telepathy stack to _prevent sleep_ while an 
>>> actual
>>>   >  >  collaboration session is running
>>>   >  >
>>>   >  >  I think #1 needs to be done regardless, as it'll improve behaviour
>>>   >  >  even if/when we our networking/suspend issues sorted. And some of 
>>> the
>>>   >  >  issues in network/suspend interaction won't be easy to resolve.
>>>   >
>>>   >  I doubt there's much that can be done in Salut about it, should be
>>>   >  instead done inside Avahi. I would see how mDNS works, then look for
>>>   >  opportunities of tuning knobs in Avahi to speed up rediscovery:
>>>   >
>>>   >  http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsext-mdns-47
>>>   >
>>>   >  I'm going to ask around in case somebody has already thought of it and
>>>   >  can provide a shortcut.
>>>
>>> the laptop knows how long it was suspended, and this information could
>>> be made available to a resume hook (which almost exists, but not
>>> quite, in powerd) if it would be useful.  i.e., a a post-resume script
>>> could decide whether to kick the protocols to do something differently,
>>> if that was needed.
>>
>> Paul, what do you think about powerd implementing org.freedesktop.UPower ?
>>
>> http://upower.freedesktop.org/docs/UPower.html
>
> If so, Lennart could be interested in accepting a patch that makes
> Avahi listen for Resuming() and that implements the wake-up behavior
> as specified in
> http://files.multicastdns.org/draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns.txt .

Thanks for that pointer and contacting Lennart. The funny part is: the 
draft expired yesterday :)

> After a quick read, looks like it would involve querying the network
> with the QU bit set so the other nodes can send unicast replies
> instead of multicast, thus saving bandwidth.

Yes the draft talks in section "5.5 Questions Requesting Unicast 
Responses" the case when using unicast responses instead of multicast 
responses in the resume case. The document states that after the first 
query multicast responses should be used. "Appendix D" contains some 
interesting points why using multicast responses is not inefficient.

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Re: #10363 NORM 10.1.3: Auto-Suspend gets in the way when sharing over Salut

2010-09-24 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/23/2010 03:30 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:56, Paul Fox  wrote:
>> tomeu wrote:
>>   >  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 23:38, Martin Langhoff
>>   >wrote:
>>   >  >  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Tomeu Vizoso 
>>  wrote:
>>   >  >>  So the problem is that if you had to resync all state for each 
>> machine
>>   >  >>  every time they wake up, you would use lots of bandwidth with the
>>   >  >  (...)
>>   >  >>  Another issue with this is that you not only want to resync 
>> presence,
>>   >  >>  but shared activities also would need to resync their state.
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  Correct. My notes on the bug are probably unreadable -- it was late
>>   >  >  last night, apologies.
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  What I mean to say is that we could
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  1 - explore the interaction between sleep timeouts and Salut resync
>>   >  >  frequency for presence
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  2 - hack the Tubes/Telepathy stack to _prevent sleep_ while an actual
>>   >  >  collaboration session is running
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  I think #1 needs to be done regardless, as it'll improve behaviour
>>   >  >  even if/when we our networking/suspend issues sorted. And some of the
>>   >  >  issues in network/suspend interaction won't be easy to resolve.
>>   >
>>   >  I doubt there's much that can be done in Salut about it, should be
>>   >  instead done inside Avahi. I would see how mDNS works, then look for
>>   >  opportunities of tuning knobs in Avahi to speed up rediscovery:
>>   >
>>   >  http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsext-mdns-47
>>   >
>>   >  I'm going to ask around in case somebody has already thought of it and
>>   >  can provide a shortcut.
>>
>> the laptop knows how long it was suspended, and this information could
>> be made available to a resume hook (which almost exists, but not
>> quite, in powerd) if it would be useful.  i.e., a a post-resume script
>> could decide whether to kick the protocols to do something differently,
>> if that was needed.
>
> Paul, what do you think about powerd implementing org.freedesktop.UPower ?
>
> http://upower.freedesktop.org/docs/UPower.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu

UPower is available in Fedora >= 13 AFAIK. We are still stuck at the 
moment with F11. So, that road is meant as Future possibilities, right?

Regards,
Simon
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Re: Updating with olpc-update command

2010-09-23 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/21/2010 04:16 PM, Narendra Sisodiya wrote:
> Dear all, I have two question
>
> 1) I am using virtual environment to booting up fedora-sugar. Can I use
> olpc-update command for update purpose ? When I try the command, it give me
> error that developer key is not present.
> 2) Is this command arch-dependent ? because I am using
> fedora-12-arm repository. Fedora 12 ARM  repo support upto - *Sugar 0.86.3*,
> If I want to update it to the latest one (
> http://build.laptop.org/10.2.0/os206/ )
> am i missing something ?

Hi Narendra,

if I understand correctly you are using Sugar on Fedora and not an OLPC 
build. The olpc-update command is meant to update olpc-images for the 
XO. For updating your configuration you need to use the distribution 
specific means.

Fedora 12 has Sugar 0.86.x which as actually a newer version than what 
you would get in http://build.laptop.org/10.2.0/os206/ which is Sugar 
0.84.x.

I guess F12 is the latest arm version you get for Fedora [1]. Otherwise 
Sugar 0.88 is packaged in Fedora 13 and 0.90 is in F14.

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM
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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/02/2010 07:43 PM, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
>>> In Terminal, cursor movement keys don't work.  [I also saw interference
>>> to Terminal (white background) from dmesg? lines (black background),
>>> after each boot -- but these would go away if I just restarted Sugar.]
>>
>> This could be X using the xfree86 keycodes instead of the evdev ones.
>> What does "setxkbmap -v" say?
>
>0 [olpc]# setxkbmap -v
>Trying to build keymap using the following components:
>keycodes:   evdev+aliases(qwerty)
>types:  complete
>compat: complete
>symbols:pc+us(olpc)+inet(evdev)+terminate(ctrl_alt_bksp)
>geometry:   pc(pc104)
>0 [olpc]#
>
> By the way, in Terminal 'vi' appears to be placing the text it shows
> onto a NON-EMPTY screen - there is present background text from what had
> in the past been shown on the Terminal screen.  If I want to look at
> something, I now use 'cat' (which has blank background) instead of 'vi'.
>
>>> Among the non-starters were Chat and TamTam.
>>
>> Could you determine why?
>
> Activity output logs attached.
> Chat fails because no attribute _pservice.

This has been fixed in git:

http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/chat/repos/mainline/commits/997ca380edbc59bbae1da9950369d3f50ffa6991

Aleksey will do a new release.

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Simon

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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/11/2010 04:20 PM, Jon Nettleton wrote:
>> The XO-1.5 build does not boot for me, I get the following after
>> flashing the image:
>>
>> Boot device: /wlan Argumenst:
>> Scan for: OLPCOFW not found
>> Scan for: school-mesh-0 not found
>> Scan for: school-mesh-1 not found
>> Scan for: school-mesh-2 not found
>> :0:
>> Can't open boot device
>>
>> Anyone else booted the XO-1.5 image already?
>
> I have booted the XO-1.5 image but did not use OFW to install it.
> Since I am running it from an SDHC card I manually extracted the
> filesystems onto the card.  I have an updated kernel rpm that fixes a
> few of initial bugs that needed squashing with the XO 1.5.  I can post
> that if people want to do extended testing.

Sure! Keep it rolling :)

> That error looks like OFW is not finding a bootable device.  What
> output do you get if you do dir int:\boot\ from the OFW prompt?
>
> -Jon

Thanks Jon for following up and sharing the command. It helped to find 
out that the bootfw package was missing. Daniel will do a new build.

Regards,
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Re: Initial F14 developers-only release for XO and XO-1.5

2010-09-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/01/2010 07:22 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Hi,

Hi Daniel,

first of all - thanks for your excellent work!

> After seeing the community help significantly with F11-on-XO
> development, I'm wondering if we can do something similar for a future
> release. So, I've taken the first few steps in getting OLPC's
> technologies rebased on Fedora 14 and Linux v2.6.35.
>
> The result has lots of problems, but I figure that publishing the work
> so far is the first step in getting things fixed.
>
> Things are in such an early stage that I'm labelling this as a
> developers-only release. To name a few: Sugar crashes all the time,
> the XO-1.5 camera doesn't work, there are some funky graphics bugs on
> XO-1, no power management, DCON doesn't work right on either laptop,
> desktop switching lands you at a blank screen.
>
> For now, please don't file bugs unless you include patches. And, to
> take 1 bite at a time out of this huge task, lets ignore all but the
> biggest sugar issues for now because there is plenty of OS work to be
> done first. (or alternatively lets take sugar issues directly to SL
> trac)
>
> And the links:
> 2.6.35 kernel is in git://dev.laptop.org/olpc-2.6 branch olpc-2.6.35
> OS build is done from 'f14' branch of olpc-os-builder
> First released images are at http://build.laptop.org/F14/os1/
> Trac is at http://dev.laptop.org/milestone/F14 (basically my immediate
> TODO), please don't file tickets unless you include patches in these
> early days
>
> Note: I haven't tested those exact images (since Chris @ OLPC built
> them), so boot-testing them can be the first task for someone. I have
> been working from the same codebases making local images successfully,
> so they will probably work (to the extent that things are working).

The XO-1.0 build does boot fine here. After installing the latest sugar 
package [1] I get quite good results. This is very promising. Yay!!!

The XO-1.5 build does not boot for me, I get the following after 
flashing the image:

Boot device: /wlan Argumenst:
Scan for: OLPCOFW not found
Scan for: school-mesh-0 not found
Scan for: school-mesh-1 not found
Scan for: school-mesh-2 not found
:0:
Can't open boot device

Anyone else booted the XO-1.5 image already?

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=193501

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Re: OS Builder: Missing dependency mtd-utils

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/07/2010 01:54 PM, Esteban Bordon wrote:
>   In Dextrose page [1] we can find this information:
>
> - Install dependencies
>
>   yum upgrade
>   yum install libtomcrypt-devel bitfrost make gcc mtd-utils
> python-imgcreate zip unzip
>
> I don't know if os-builder used to build Dextrose have any difference with
> this.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Esteban.
>
> [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Dextrose/Build_System

Yeah, I had the information for the dependency from the README in the 
tarball I did download [1]. We should just add it as well there.

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-os-builder/tree/doc/README
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Enhancing Sugar to support multiple users

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/07/2010 01:33 AM, Hal Murray wrote:
>
> d...@laptop.org said:
>> When we discussed this while I was in Peru, one requirement they identified
>> is that the kid would log onto an XO one day and do some work, and then log
>> onto another XO the following week and continue the same work.
>
>> Assuming this still stands, this strongly calls for a network-based home
>> directory system with some kind of network login service (but someone with
>> experience in such areas should comment). This would require a number of
>> changes at the OS level and server level, but Sugar would be left untouched,
>> as far as I can think.
>
> I think there are two approaches.
>
> One is for /home to live on the file server and XOs to access their files via
> NFS.  There may be interesting alternatives to NFS, but I'm not familiar with
> any of them.
>
> The other is to have a working copy of files on the local machine and
> manually slosh files back and forth, probably using a program to automate
> things.
>
> I don't think either would be great, but both could probably be made to work.
>
> Both depend on reasonable network support.  Somebody would have to do some
> experimenting to see how many users the typical WiFi setup can support.
>
> [...]
>
> Here is another alternative...  Give each child their own SD card.  Patch
> Sugar to look there.  Or patch the system to mount /home/olpc there.  ...

 From my experience in class, handing out cards/usb sticks to kids is 
very delicate for the reasons of loosing them or forgetting them at 
home. Of course you can organize for them to leave them in the school or 
with the teachers, I just would not let the kids take them home... :)

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Enhancing Sugar to support multiple users

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/06/2010 03:40 PM, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Daniel Drake  wrote:
>> On 5 September 2010 13:57, Christoph Derndorfer
>>   wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just created a new ticket (http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2292) to get
>>> some discussions started on what changes need to be made to Sugar to work
>>> well in an environment where multiple users will work on the same machine
>>> (which is how Peru's next 300,000 XOs will be used:
>>> http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/peru/peru_between_one_laptop_per_child_and_seven_children_per_laptop.html).
>>>
>>> Obviously this touches upon a lot of areas from simple naming of the
>>> machine, over the Journal, backups and probably a whole host of other issues
>>> that I haven't though of yet.
>>
>> When we discussed this while I was in Peru, one requirement they
>> identified is that the kid would log onto an XO one day and do some
>> work, and then log onto another XO the following week and continue the
>> same work.
>>
>> Assuming this still stands, this strongly calls for a network-based
>> home directory system with some kind of network login service (but
>> someone with experience in such areas should comment). This would
>> require a number of changes at the OS level and server level, but
>> Sugar would be left untouched, as far as I can think.
>
> The standard way of doing this in unix is to use nfs and automount
> with NIS/LDAP authentication. This would mount the users home
> directory on login. There's a number of issues that come up with this
> implementation for the XOs in that wireless would need to connect
> prior to this and NFS over wifi would be interesting at best due to
> wifi dropouts. To mitigate that problem you'd probably have to wedge
> some of the caching filesystems that are being developed to allow the
> home directory to be cached. Suddenly your getting a very complex
> solution to fix the problem.

Yes, this is true. I obviously used wired connections when using 
LDAP/NFS. In a lap with fixed equipment this is an easy setup. For the 
XOs, I agree this could lead to frustration. (even in my case kids very 
confused because someone has pulled the cables)

> The other possible alternative to this would be to use something like
> couchdb to store the contents of the journal and associated config
> files where you can have a local couchdb that replicates to a remote
> service. This might be the simpler solution but would obviously
> require development.
>
> Peter

Interesting. A solution where you only need to sync twice (start/stop) 
might be better in the wifi environment.

Regards,
Simon


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Enhancing Sugar to support multiple users

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 09/06/2010 03:05 PM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On 5 September 2010 13:57, Christoph Derndorfer
>   wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just created a new ticket (http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2292) to get
>> some discussions started on what changes need to be made to Sugar to work
>> well in an environment where multiple users will work on the same machine
>> (which is how Peru's next 300,000 XOs will be used:
>> http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/peru/peru_between_one_laptop_per_child_and_seven_children_per_laptop.html).
>>
>> Obviously this touches upon a lot of areas from simple naming of the
>> machine, over the Journal, backups and probably a whole host of other issues
>> that I haven't though of yet.
>
> When we discussed this while I was in Peru, one requirement they
> identified is that the kid would log onto an XO one day and do some
> work, and then log onto another XO the following week and continue the
> same work.
>
> Assuming this still stands, this strongly calls for a network-based
> home directory system with some kind of network login service (but
> someone with experience in such areas should comment). This would
> require a number of changes at the OS level and server level, but
> Sugar would be left untouched, as far as I can think.
>
> Daniel

So this is basically what I did in my pilot [1]. I used F11, 0.84 on 
regular laptops and an Xserve that was already handling LDAP and NFS. 
The changes you need to make on the machines to point to the Server are 
minimal, Sugar itself stays untouched. And yes you need some login manager.

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Planetarium/en

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OS Builder: Missing dependency mtd-utils

2010-09-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi,

I had to build a localized german image for my pilot [1] last night and 
gave the OS Builder [1] a go. It worked out really well. Thanks for 
sharing the tool!

During the process mkfs.jffs2 could not be located. The package 
mtd-utils was missing. I think we should add it as a dependency.

(There was no component in dev.l.o, hence I note it here).

Regards,
Simon


[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Planetarium/en
[2] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OS_Builder
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[ANNOUNCE] 0.90 Schedule

2010-07-05 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi,

I have filled out the missing pieces in the 0.90 development cycle [1]. 
I want to highlight some important dates:

* 16th August: Feature Freeze

* 29th September: The final, new stable release

* 27th October: Bug fix release

The Sugar 0.89.x schedule is based on the GNOME 2.31.x development cycle 
[2]. One reason is that Sugar as based on the GNOME stack. Another 
reason is that GNOME makes sure that their release will be able to be 
shipped by the major distributions. The dates of the release are made 
accordingly to the GNOME schedule.

As there is not much time left for 0.90 we will focus on stabilizing and 
landing the features that were left over from the last release. As well 
as landing all the patches that are currently pending. New Features are 
handled by the Feature process, as it has been the case in the past [3]. 
Make sure to read the policy what needs to be done in order that your 
feature can be accepted [4]. It is a sanity check, so don't be too 
worried. It is there to help the submitter and maintainer in order to 
get input from the community and the release manager to track features 
and their status. The actual code gets reviewed by the module maintainer.

If there are any questions, about the policy or the schedule, please ask.

Regards,
Simon

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.90/Roadmap#Schedule
[2] http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointThirtyone
[3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Policy
[4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Policy#Acceptance_of_a_feature
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Keep confusion -- round N+1

2010-06-24 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/23/2010 10:49 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
[...]
> It probably needs to be complemented by an option in the Journal to
> add a "duplicate this document", and Home View changes to make it
> clearer/easier to open a new activity without reopening the last
> document.

We actually did a lot of work on this in the last release cycle with the 
design team on making a better separation between resume and start new 
in the Journal. After making tests [1] in deployments for "start new" 
vs. "resume" we concluded that the way activity starting works on the 
iPhone would probably work well in Sugar, too [2].

In any case, we have been working on this topic so hard during the last 
release cycle, would be great it we conclude something from that 
discussion at make it an action item.

Regards,
Simon

[1] 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/0.88_Meeting#Resume.2FStart_new_on_the_Home_View
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Sugar_resume_vs_start_new.jpg
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Keep confusion -- round N+1

2010-06-24 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/24/2010 01:07 AM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On 23 June 2010 15:49, Martin Langhoff  wrote:
>> Continuing on the tradition of "Keep confusion, yet again" thread
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2010-April/023440.html
>>
>> I was yesterday in a conf call with the Perú team, who had been
>> working with teachers and were reporting a "keep" bug on F11/S0.84
>> images.
>>
>> What was very clear was that both technical team and teachers were
>> confused about the keep button; and they were seeing a bug that
>> increased their confusion.
>
> Yep, I'm here in peru and they are facing the same confusion as i've
> seen all over the world.
> This button needs to go away.

Yes, same observation here in the Planetarium deployment. The kids think 
that the keep button means 'saving' and they get confused when I say 
that Sugar saves automatically. +1 too for removing it.

> Here in Peru they are modifying all of the 30 activities on the laptop
> to remove the Keep button. (with a little care for the ones where it
> has alternative functions such as Write -- thats why you can't just
> take it out of the activity class altogether)

Maybe those activities that do need those exports options can move them 
into another category/subtab. TurtleArt is a good example for solving that.

Regards,
Simon
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Re: multicast route missing on ad-hoc+mesh

2010-06-23 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/23/2010 03:59 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Simon Schampijer  wrote:
>> Btw, the multicast route has been added to NM, there is an rpm in
>> F11-testing. Would be nice if some people test it too, so it gets
>> included in the stable branch and does land in F11.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Simon
>>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.7.2.997-2.git20100609.fc11?_csrf_token=683e354aa38a8ba7478fb4a53de40df43e1241dd
>
> Yay. Hopefully it'll get into the next spin of F11/XO-1 and F11/XO-1.5 !
>
> Chris,
>
> with this and http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1610 I think we'll have
> mich improved networking for XO-1.5 and XO-1.

Yes, #1610 contains the default adhoc networks. I asked our #1 reviewer 
Tomeu to have a look. The mesh-code did land already. When r+ed we just 
need to package it up and include it in Chris' build.

>   - The ad-hoc UI and interaction model is now similar to what we had
> on F9/0.82 with mesh for "under a tree" scenarios.
>
>   - The code detects whether msh0 is present, and will present the mesh
> UI; or fall back to ad-hoc. (This means it supports XO-1 but will also
> work on XO-1.5 once the thinfirm is ready and working with
> open80211s.)
>
>   - Even when msh0 is present and it's in "mesh" mode, if it spots a
> running ad-hoc network, it can join it; so mesh-enabled XOs can talk
> with non-mesh-enabled XOs.

Right, I have been doing testing here with my XO1.0s and XO1.5s and I am 
quite happy with the results. As Martin said the XO1.0 can share with 
the XO1.5 and there is an easy way to collaborate without having 
infrastructure for the XO1.5s.

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Re: multicast route missing on ad-hoc+mesh

2010-06-23 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/01/2010 03:32 PM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On 1 June 2010 02:55, Sascha Silbe
>   wrote:
>> Excerpts from James Cameron's message of Tue Jun 01 00:42:38 + 2010:
>>> Yep, that's it.  Sugar is entirely relying on the existence of this
>>> multicast route, and it is not present on os240py.
>>>
>>> It can temporarily be added after mesh is started:
>>>
>>>  ip route add 224.0.0.0/4 dev msh0
>> [...]
>>> Bernie, modules/base/kspost.10.core.inc in olpc-os-builder handles this
>>> for ad-hoc.  Presumably it needs a similar thing for mesh.
>>
>> What's the upstream ticket for this bug (the multicast route being missing)?
>> This might explain quite a bit of the trouble I had with collaboration
>> (though not all of it).
>
> You can find the discussion on the NetworkManager list. It wasn't
> concluded, Dan Williams needs to be prodded more so that we can come
> up with a solution.
>
> Daniel

Btw, the multicast route has been added to NM, there is an rpm in 
F11-testing. Would be nice if some people test it too, so it gets 
included in the stable branch and does land in F11.

Thanks,
Simon

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/NetworkManager-0.7.2.997-2.git20100609.fc11?_csrf_token=683e354aa38a8ba7478fb4a53de40df43e1241dd
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Re: multicast route missing on ad-hoc+mesh

2010-06-01 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/01/2010 03:32 PM, Daniel Drake wrote:
> On 1 June 2010 02:55, Sascha Silbe
>   wrote:
>> Excerpts from James Cameron's message of Tue Jun 01 00:42:38 + 2010:
>>> Yep, that's it.  Sugar is entirely relying on the existence of this
>>> multicast route, and it is not present on os240py.
>>>
>>> It can temporarily be added after mesh is started:
>>>
>>>  ip route add 224.0.0.0/4 dev msh0
>> [...]
>>> Bernie, modules/base/kspost.10.core.inc in olpc-os-builder handles this
>>> for ad-hoc.  Presumably it needs a similar thing for mesh.
>>
>> What's the upstream ticket for this bug (the multicast route being missing)?
>> This might explain quite a bit of the trouble I had with collaboration
>> (though not all of it).
>
> You can find the discussion on the NetworkManager list. It wasn't
> concluded, Dan Williams needs to be prodded more so that we can come
> up with a solution.
>
> Daniel

Ok, testing with setting the route helped here, too. For some reason, it 
took a while until I could share.

Daniel, I searched a bit on the NM-list but could not find that previous 
discussion, can you point me to it?

Thanks,
Simon

PS: as mesh support will land in 0.84 soon, we want to set our system up 
for that http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2015.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] ANNOUNCE: Sugar 0.88 for the XO-1

2010-05-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/25/2010 08:16 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Bernie Innocenti  wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> we've just started a new development cycle aimed at providing Sugar 0.88
>> for the XO-1. Our focus is stability and usability for deployments,
>> although we're also attempting to merge a couple of low-risk features
>> developed in Uruguay.
>>
>> Full details are here:
>>
>>   http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Sugar-0.88_Notes
>>
>> The current image, os140py, is an alpha quality build with a few known
>> regressions.
>>
>> Please, help us make this release as polished as possible. For the
>> occasion, it would be great if someone volunteered to revive the Sugar
>> Labs Bug Squad. We're going to coordinate with the fledgling Deployment
>> Team to gather feedback directly from the field.
>
> Is F-11 still the base OS for this?
>
> Peter

I am interested in that one, too. Are there any plans to move on? As F11 
is EOL soon...

Regards,
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"Sugar: Wireless scan is slow to happen after sleep with wireless off" - first test results

2010-04-29 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi,

I tested today if the Sugar reconnection to the wireless network is as 
fast as the one in GNOME. That for I used two XO 1.5, one running Sugar 
and one running GNOME,  and connected them to the same AP. I suspended 
both machines by closing the lid.

After I reopened the lid both machines connected to the previously 
connected AP at the same speed. It was easy to verify by eye. I repeated 
that test a few times and always had the same result.

I conclude, that the Sugar-NM implementation is not slower in 
reconnecting to the previously connected network than the GNOME one. 
Happy to hear about 'contraire' test results, of course ;)

Regards,
Simon
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Re: Alternative to Create a new wireless network

2010-04-26 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 04/26/2010 06:01 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> What do you do with scan results that show an ad-hoc network is
> available with the same name?  Pick one:
>
> 1.  show an access point icon for it (the current behaviour in os121),
>
> 2.  show an ad-hoc mesh icon for it, with a badge showing that it is
> active.
>
> This might reduce the need to communicate the chosen channel between
> users in a class.
>

The code does only display the three icons for channel 1, 6, 11. You 
click on the icon and join the network or create it. The code is the 
same for both cases, this is a general 'feature' of ad-hoc networks. One 
could show a badge for 'active' networks indeed, at the moment I filter 
those cases out, to not display 'doubles'.

Regards,
Simon

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