On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 06:02:49PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:20 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2008-08-13 a
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:53 AM, Brian Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I solved the problem for my own XO by adding the missing links, but that
> won't work for a project distributed to the kiddies. Can someone tell me
> the right way to solve this problem? Thanks.
I don't really know, but:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Zarro Boogs per Child
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #7426: Journal in f7 disappears after olpc-update to f9
> -+--
> Reporter: mikus | Owner: tomeu
> Type: defect |
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John Maloney (scratch developer) is aware of both issues. He is
> considering making Scratch use the journal in future, but this is a
> large amount of work.
May not be so much work? I would love to discuss this and help
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Follow up on Cmap tools
Looks quite interesting, where can we get more details?
Regards,
Tomeu
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On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> C. Scott Ananian wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> The bad:
>>> - Bounce (aka 3Dpong) has become completely unplayable. The screen
>>> update is very jerky.
>>>
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
>
> Anyway, since it really targets the high-end (each tab running its own
> process with own virtual machine for JS etc.)
> I doubt it will run nicely on the XO.
> The renderer is based on Web
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Am 04.09.2008 um 01:06 schrieb Michael Stone:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 05:33:28PM -0400, Greg Smith wrote:
>>> Has anyone tried making the activity which is X-windows and inside
>>> which
>>> other activities can ru
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> * We need to find out why the oom-killer is not killing things fast
>enough. Based on our results, we might consider configuring
>/proc/$pid/oom_adj to preferentially kill some processes (e.g., the
>foreground
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote:
>> I filed #8128 to address the memory usage that seems excessive.
>>
>> I have also disabled cerebro from start-up while this is being
>> investigated and the issue with bl
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:39 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> * We need to find
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:13 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i wrote:
> >
> > i think there's definitely a sugar shell leak. here's some
> > partial data, gathered from a few machines on my desk right now.
> >
> > (be careful with the column headings -- i rearranged partway through
> > to g
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:24 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> tomeu wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:13 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > (there are a lot of variables in play here -- the main thing is
> > > that something's certainly leaking.)
> >
> > The shell shouldn't be doing anyth
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:53 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It may be possible and useful to store some commonly used executables
> and shared libraries as uncompressed files in jffs2, making them much
> faster to page back in from Flash. Nobody has tried doing this, as
> far as
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> * We need to check carefully for memory-leaks. Three mechanisms which
>occur to me include:
Looks like we have regressed on http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5532 .
Just entered http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8394 because m
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had a few hours look at the second largest process, the journal
> activity, on Joyride 2412.
>
> Then I used gdb to generate-core-file and wander through the heap memory
> to get an idea of what it might contain. I did n
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 08:18 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> tomeu wrote:
>> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Has anyone got an idea of how to measure the hea
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:30 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> But I did notice one odd thin
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:51 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 5:30 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Firstly, insofar as the hierarchical filesystem is a worldwide standard
> for human-computer interface, it is something which is useful to teach
> students. So it seems like a very useful activity.
AFAIK, kids have been
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, it is also my impression. I have heard similarly
> from virtually all technically-oriented parties involved. I have heard
> echos of this from less technical users (e.g. teachers who are confused
>
Hi all,
have given one more push to my DS clone [0] and have reached the point
where it is plug'n'play compatible with the old one except in the two
following aspects:
1.- has no support for removable devices,
2.- all metadata properties are just strings.
Regarding 1, I really hope we move that
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> | 2.- all metadata properties are just strings.
>
> I think this is a good decision (especially since by strings you mean
> "byte arrays"). However, it's n
2008/9/16 Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi All,
>
> We need to characterize the performance and support of Flash in release 8.2.
>
> Technical people in Uruguay did a tests a while ago on the Flash games at
> this web site: http://www.minijuegos.com/
>
> They used the Gnash shipped with 656 (0.
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> | 2.- all metadata properties are just strings.
>
> I think this is a good decision (especially since by stri
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:27 PM, NoiseEHC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> The Datastore can then provide two accessor functions:
>>> get_by_value(key) and get_by_reference(key). get_by_value() returns the
>>> contents of the file as a bytestring in memory. get_by_reference()
>>> returns the pat
Ooops. cc'ing to some other people/list in the hope someone more
knowledgeable than me will comment.
Thanks,
Tomeu
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Riccardo Lucchese
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 12:43 +0200, Riccardo Lucchese wrote:
>> * build 703, xorg driver = amd, redra
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Bernie Innocenti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Riccardo Lucchese wrote:
>>
>> I haven't tried to run oprofile on the xo yet (it is on my todo list).
>
> Be careful, there's a catch with jffs2: it does not support the writable
> shared mmap that oprofiled needs. This
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 26 Sep 2008, at 19:31, Arjun Sarwal wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2008/9/26 Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Here's a set of basic Activity test results for build 8.2-763, hope
>>> the ASCI
>>> art doesn't get too mangled
2008/9/29 Erik Blankinship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:02 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > On 26 Sep 2008, at 19:31, Arjun Sarwal wrote:
>> >
>> >> 2008/9/26 Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >>>
>> >>> Here's a set of basic Activity test results for
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So UI changes that help make this clearer will probably be a good idea
>> for a 9.1 ... :-/
>
> There was an early sketch of a mechanism similar to the old Home View
> circle, where there was a space allocated to each open
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Erik Blankinship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Do you need to do that for each window? Why don't you just listen for
>> that signal in just the main activity window and stop everything when
>> gtk.gdk.VISIBILITY_FULLY_OBSCURED and resume when otherwise?
>
>
> Full
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:13 AM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On September 8th, Michael Stone wrote:
>> Kim, Greg, and I have concluded that the instability we experience under
>> memory-pressure in 8.2-759 and similar is the single "hard" issue that
>> we wish to _attempt_ to address before
and 656 (Uruguay image) if the instructions are different for
> each.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg S
>
> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>
>> 2008/9/16 Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> We need to characterize the performance and
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I just checked Flash10 with 8.2-765.
>
> The results are the same as with earlier versions of Flash:
The flash games in the ceibal tests are still unplayable, but their
performance is greatly improved, just go back to
ROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM, John Watlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> The video in "Hulk Central Smashdown" shows only two
>>>&
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Applications which I intend to use in the near future I keep
> "resident" (Sugar Activities in /home/olpc/Activities, Linux
> applications on my "permanent" SD card). Those I access rarely I
> keep on a removable storage
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> is joyride open for 9.1 development now?
Also, should we start work on rebasing on F10?
Regards,
Tomeu
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On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 12:50 PM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
>> Read has serious memory problems because renders whole pages
>> into memory, regardless of what is the viewed area. Any chance the
>> first pages of the PDF you opened contai
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > When I was in Uruguay more teachers
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:14:13PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:17:16AM +0200, Tomeu V
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 11:20:04AM -0400, elana langer wrote:
>> Hey Tech Community-
>>
>> I just wanted to give y'all some feedback from my experience in
>> Mongolia. Feel free to contact me with any questions. Please excus
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The laptops feature the latest release of the Sugar window manager, ...
I think we should be able to find a better term than "window manager",
Matchbox is the window manager used in 8.2 and it hasn't been modified
by OLPC
"environment"; the
> latter actually sounds a little friendlier, to me.)
I guess in platform Sugar would be supporting learning, where in
environment Sugar would be where learning happens. I would vote for
platform, as the learning really happens inside the user.
Regards,
Tomeu
> -
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Ed McNierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul -
>
> Thanks very much for this help. I've been wanting to be a "real user" of my
> XO more and this all helps me get pointed in the right direction. I'm also
> hoping the two hours I spend each day working on my XO on
Hi Elana,
you have brought a very needed point of view to this list. Let me try
to start the process of translating your experience to actionable
items.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, elana langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 1) Computers are slow - So I was in a Ger in the west part of Mongol
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, elana langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 2) Can't save files - this should probably be the first item on my
> list. It drives teachers and students crazy. They make something in an
> application, take some pictures or write something and then have to go
> thr
Hi Elana,
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:48 PM, elana langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> d) Although I think building a tagging tool around kids natural ways
> of thinking is really exciting, most teachers/schools/gov'ts are
> really concerned that this OS isn't preparing kids for the digital age
> p
Hi,
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, elana langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 3) Basically - The journal is really hard for people/ kids to use over
> a longer period of time. Kids and teachers can't find things that they
> did unless it was done within the last 30 minutes.
Could you please ela
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:40 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> (I don't think this says negative things about OLPC at all; children
>> don't resist learning in this way.)
>
> Yet those Largo workers did somehow
2008/10/10 Deniz Kural <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> This whole "why would you need a USB in mongolia?" conversation shows how
> out of touch some people on this list are with the people the project is
> trying to reach.
Deniz,
this list if composed by people from all around the world, some of
which ha
it's why everyone wants to save on a USB right away.
Record creates several entries in the journal: one per video, one per
photo, one per audio recording and one to tie them all together. Maybe
this is confusing users?
Thanks,
Tomeu
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:07 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL
> I don't have enough
> data from kids trying to do the same yet but hopefully I will see what
> they do in the next weeks.
Awesome, look forward for more feedback from you.
Thanks,
Tomeu
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
a
> list of "dream field feedback" or something I can try to make that all
> happen.
Thanks, will keep asking questions.
Tomeu
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Elana,
>>
>> you have brought a very neede
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Deepak Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have created an initial UBIFS 8.2 image that can be used for testing
> and playing with.
Tried it here on a B3.
> * UBI is taking an extremely long time (~50s) to attach to the MTD
> device on the XO I
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 9:33 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Just to clarify: like our "mini-conferences" in the past, the plan is
>>> to have at least three days full of talks and hacking, so t
2008/10/9 Carol Hussein Lerche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I think a lot of the frustration around the journal could be abated by
> publishing a roadmap with actual projected times when each feature is
> planned to be available for testing in a joyride and then projected release
> number. Many of the e
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:13:02PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hi Tomeu. Some personal feedback:
>> >
>> >> 3) Basically - The journal is rea
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Tomeu. Some personal feedback:
>
>> 3) Basically - The journal is really hard for people/ kids to use over
>> a longer period of time. Kids and teachers can't find things that they
>> did unless it was done within the l
Hi Chris and Deepak,
in Ubifs, I have tried unsetting the compression xattr on files, but
reads were equally slow so I guess the contents weren't actually
uncompressed. Even tried dd'ing to an empty existing file without the
c attribute, but the result was the same. Any idea what I'm doing
wrong?
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Deepak Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 13 2008, at 14:59, Tomeu Vizoso was caught saying:
>> Hi Chris and Deepak,
>>
>> in Ubifs, I have tried unsetting the compression xattr on files, but
>> reads were equally slo
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Jeremy Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:34 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
>>> do we plan to rebase to F10 for 9.1.0? I'm ask
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Jeremy Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 13:34 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
>> do we plan to rebase to F10 for 9.1.0? I'm asking because I'd need to
>> know if I can depend on gtk 2.14...
>
> If not, then you're going to be basing on a Fe
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:09 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 2:41 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'll be giving a demo of some next-generation journal ideas (and code)
>> at noon Wednesday at OLPC's 1cc offices. I'll make sure to have i
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am 15.10.2008 um 01:19 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
>> the distro landscape has changed a bit in the last few years, is it
>> worth
>> considering a jump to Ubuntu if it has a better fit for your release
>> cycle? at th
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Deepak Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 10 2008, at 11:44, Tomeu Vizoso was caught saying:
>> - when the filesystem gets less empty, the jffs2 gc thread has to work
>> a lot and steals a considerable amount of cpu to the rest of
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:30 AM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:57:45AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> Ubuntu also seems a much better fit in spirit than RedHat.
>
> Agreed. xodist could easily be used, and the OLPC specific RPMs could
> be converted to .
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>* Persistent activity storage
What does this mean?
Thanks,
Tomeu
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On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Robert Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Peter Krenesky (CC'd) from the Open Source Lab at Oregon State has
>> discussed some printing basics with me, and may have already begun
>> further research in this area. There is some info in the wiki on the
>> subject: h
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I searched trac and googled a little for this, so sorry if this is a known
> issue.
>
> This is on build 765. When I try to download an attachment that has a
> filename with accents Browse does nothing and I get t
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:53 AM, elana langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey there-
>
> I was at a school yesterday and it seemed like the three major
> problems they faced were:
>
> 1) computer freezing constantly
> 2) computers were missing their journal or the journal disappeared
> 3) slownes
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tomeu,
>
> On Mar, 21 de Octubre de 2008, 5:46 am, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I s
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Svetlana Senajova
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Right now we are half way through setting up an open source localisation
> team for Afghanistan and building the open source community. For those of
> you who are more interested in remote contributions to Afghanistan
Hi,
I think that with a small effort, we could implement something much
better than what we have today.
We have glorious plans for the view source key, but as no resources
have been devoted to them, perhaps we should scale back and make sure
that we provide the best we can today. And let the futu
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:05 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:56 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> * Activity startup is ridiculously slow.
>>
>> Design an API incompatible Activity class. Start from a very basic
>> window and ad
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Marco,
>>
>> I did some basic profiling of my new rainbow code last night and
>> discovered that, in the best case with the current codebase
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:19 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:33 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> sure, that's fine. but i think we need to keep thinking about
>> how to support of non-, or not-fully-sugarized applications with
>> every new feature we d
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Mitch Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Stone wrote:
>> I did some basic profiling of my new rainbow code last night and
>> discovered that, in the best case with the current codebase on XO, it
>> costs about 0.5s/"1 exec(python)". Approximately 80% of th
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:06 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Ed McNierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 – 21 is being postponed
>> until January, 2009. The Fedora FUDCON conference is in Boston o
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:30 PM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Simon Schampijer wrote:
>> This is our first Development Release in the 0.84 cycle. The code base
>> has seen many refactoring efforts to improve the platform.
>
> Will OLPC joyride builds pick up the new Sucrose?
Sure. Hopefully
Dear Masters of Joyride,
have built updated sugar rpms and they seem to work fine on last joyrides.
Built locally these rpms. Anybody sees any problem if I build them in
the OLPC-3 branch? Or should be in F9? Or F10 if we intend to switch
soon? What if we decide to do a 8.2.1 release?
sugar-0.83
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Masters of Joyride,
>
> have built updated sugar rpms and they seem to work fine on last joyrides.
Marco pointed me out in #sugar that "work fine" may need some
clarification. In fact, the f
ounds good?
If there's any problem with this, please explain.
Thanks,
Tomeu
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Masters of Joyride,
>
> have built updated sugar rpms and they seem to work fine on last joyrides.
>
> Built locally
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Ed McNierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This certainly seems like a reasonable solution.
Awesome, how much time would it take to get implemented?
Thanks,
Tomeu
> On Nov 6, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Chris Ball wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Hi again, I'm thinking that perhaps
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A new version of the XO-LiveCD is available.
Thanks Wolfgang, I have updated
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Supported_systems#Starch with this new
release. Could you please check that you agree with it?
Note that I had to remove the pub segme
Hi Scott,
do you have any news for us about the work on your journal+datastore
replacement?
Thanks,
Tomeu
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On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> We're mid-way through the upgrade to sugar-0.83. And even when that's
>> done, there will be mucho breakage (see Tomeu's earlier post).
>
> Any chance latest Gnash can be integrated?
Well, Gnash in this case is at the s
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:10 AM, genesee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Daniel Drake-5 wrote:
>>
>> We're mid-way through the upgrade to sugar-0.83. And even when that's
>> done, there will be mucho breakage (see Tomeu's earlier post).
>>
>> I think joyride will break often over the course of t
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Martin Langhoff
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>
> - Right now, the jffs2 fs can outstore the backup storage on highly
> compressible content. Not a good look, and leading to all sorts of bad
> scenarios.
I would get a real journal and check for real which is the
comp
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would get a real journal and check for real which is the
>> compressibility of the data that is actually there.
&
Hi all,
I'm having some trouble updating the telepathy packages in joyride,
which is a prerequisite for updating sugar.
My plan was to update the telepathy* packages in F9 to the sources of
those packages in F10, but I'm having some trouble in getting commit
permissions to do that.
Perhaps that'
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Morgan Collett
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:29, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm having some trouble updating the telepathy packages in joyride,
>> which is a prereq
in that case, keep trying explosive stuff ;)
Joyride will be really broken for at least a couple of days, but soon
(I hope) it will be usable by curious people who want to see where
development is heading. Though will keep eating people's files and
failing to do basic stuff for several months ;)
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shoebot, a free-software version of the awesome Mac program DrawBot
> (which relies heavily Cocoa), is finished. Thanks to David Crossland
> who tipped me off to this.
> http://www.tinkerhouse.net/shoebot/
> http://tinke
th
my suggestion of letting Sugar people to manage the builds, but I
still cannot push to pilgrim, so I'm still blocking more often than
the minimum necessary.
Thanks,
Tomeu
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From: Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Tomeu,
>
> > Looks like Dennis has put pilgrim to build from F10, but we are now
> > failing because our sugar-evince requires a libpoppler older than what
> > is in F10.
>
> Thanks to Dennis!
>
> > I would like to
2008/11/9 i i <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I am developing an activity using glade ,any method to load widget tree
> instead of widgets in sugar activity bundle
Hi,
we don't have any special support for glade in Sugar, but it should
work in the same way as in non-sugar apps.
I think you can find some
Hi,
this build is known not to work:
(06:30:54 PM) marcopg_: X does not seem to start
(06:31:00 PM) marcopg_: and I cannot login
(06:31:25 PM) marcopg_: it asks for a password
Regards,
Tomeu
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Build Announcer v2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://xs-dev.laptop.o
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> -sugar 0.82.9-1.fc10
>> +sugar 0.83.2-1.olpc4
>> -sugar-artwork 0.82.3-1.fc10
>> +sugar-artwork 0.83.1-1.olpc4
>> -sugar-base 0.82.2-1.fc10
>> +sugar-base 0.83.1-1.olpc4
>> -sugar-datastore 0.8.3-2.fc10
>> +sugar-datastor
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is there a reason the new sugar can't go upstream into F-10?
>>>
>>> It's very unstable code and contains several big regressions, as of today.
>>>
>>> F-10 being on feature freeze, I guess it won't be allowed in.
>>
>>
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