hings stand (it would probably be
nice to have approximate figures on the front page of the wiki for
bragging purposes as well)
the ideal would be # purchased(contracted for) plus number physically
shipped.
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th xandros too, so I dont see why it wouldnt work with an
xo. (not that I'm comparing the 2) Anyway I'd imagine using the
instructions found here and following the fedora core 3 guidelines
should get you up and running:
http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/index.php/howto/main
Kind Regards,
So, what about meeting for having some food and drinks somewhere not
> far from Davis Square?
>
> My plane is scheduled to arrive at 21.45, so I would go directly to
> wherever people choose.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu
Sounds good.
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> por una parte, y los desarroladores en Paris, por si alguien necesita.
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> Bests, saludos
>
Great work Samy!
Your project embodies what I hope is becoming the development for
Sugar Labs. Bringing together smart and passionate people to work on
interest
te releases? or should some
of them been batched up a bit?
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ntil the screen scrolls
this box let me start terminal, but starting browse fails
there ia an error on the console about Server is already active for
display 0
when reverting this back to 767 it would not boot (traceback error) I
will try and send a picture of the screen as a reply to this messa
t the terminal
the display doesn't show full characters until the screen scrolls
I noticed that recently (I think with 767) the micraphone is activated for
several seconds during boot. on this joyride (and on debxo) the mic stays
on all the time.
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Build Announcer v2 wrote:
I tried to install this, but after the install it hangs when tring to
start init (init: invalid option '--init' try init --help for more
information)
upgrading from 767 with firmware 18
from the above schedule. Oh, and we'll do
> our best to get all of these talks recorded, digitized, and posted for
> anyone not present (or enjoying an overly-leisurely lunch, say).
> --scott
>
scott
It looks like Bernie start a on-line schedule at
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sug
seeing this where nothing else is running on the
machine.
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On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:31 PM, David Farning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Do you think xs will be stable enough to do a server related book sprint
> at
> > Fedora/OLPC/Sugar (FOS)co
peatable event
> - Browse.xo using our poxy proxy explicitly
> - Browse.xo doing automagic authentication with XS
> - multicast XS-to-XO NAND flashing (but Mitch is not here :-/)
>
> There is a lot we can do for the XO but most of it we can achieve
> without explicit changes
4
thanks, that looks like exactly the type of thing I was looking for.
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ed (translated set 2, code 0x65 on
> isa0060/serio0).
> [ 832.420977] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 65 ' to make it known.
I hadn't been checking in the logs.
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On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, Mitch Bradley wrote:
> David Lang wrote:
>> ideally I want to figure out how to get these keys into the kernel, at
>> that point any userspace can deal with them.
>
> The game keys produce scancodes that are folded into the keyboard data
> strea
features ... like setting up /etc/modules, xorg.conf, and so forth.
>>
>> I'm actually not happy with how the OLPC currently handles these things,
>> they are too X (and sugar) specific. we need to get a layer lower if we
>> can.
>
> Good. But the general purpose s
The younger kids
> who had not used computers much before certainly selected the G1G1
> units. The older kids and adults who have used computers extensively
> found the KDE builds more fascinating. It's what they knew.
interesting.
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eck the suspend/resume support for all the hardware and
make sure it's in the upstream kernel (and test it regularly so that they
don't make a change that breaks it)?
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and right hand buttons, and the four game keys
on the right all produce keycodes, but the rotate key, game direction pad,
the key next to the frame key, the key between escape and F1 do not
produce any output.
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On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> mic input (kmix sees the sound device, including DC input mode, which I
> didn't expect, but I haven't sucessfully recorded anything yet)
I found that I had the mic muted. once that was changed I got feedback :-)
everthing seems to be supported by t
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > > i suggest searching olpcnews.com/forum for things like this -- last year's
> > > g1g1 users have done a lot of work supporting the XO h/w under non-sugary
> > > envi
n device? (it would be handy if at least the
development builds of the kernel enabled /proc/config.gz for all xo
distros (including the OLPC builds) it costs about 10k
compressed, 40k raw)
things that probably work, but I'm not doing something right
the camera is showing up, but I'
twork running, and the brower wouldn't come up.
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This sounds very interesting and useful. A nice breadth of projects to keep
things interesting and cross pollinate ideas between groups that might not
interact frequently.
thanks
david
2008/11/1 LASKE, Lionel (C2S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> OLPC France is
t.
>
> Actually, for a variety of reasons, I'm working quite hard to make
> rainbow usable on stock linux machines like those represented by
> Debian and Fedora chroots.
>
Michael,
Could you provide a high level comment on the feasibility of running rainbow
as a security mechanism
ds to
directly access the filesystem on the nand, it could be that the file
access is done through FUSE so that additional metadata can be stored
along with the file. they key is that it needs to be transparent to the
software so that existing software doesn't need to change.
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:06 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Ed McNierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> The OLPC XOCamp event being planned for November 17 – 21 is be
FWIW. I have had a number of high school teacher and university
instructors ask about using the xo as a language learning appliance. The
two reoccurring themes have been:XO as a portable language lab.Ability to
develop a language learning activity which could tailor itself to the needs of
an
eleted by the system greatly limits their value.
>
> Only if they don't get used.
don't get used or don't get updated?
if I'm viewing a document why would it move in the journal?
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; importance of the Journal in tying the whole system together. By
> putting the help manual at the top, I believe the discoverability of
> many features/activities would be greatly increased.
the fact that they will quickly disappear off the screen, and may be
auto-deleted by the system greatly
hose 'tabs' could even be seperate screens and work without requiring
multiple copies of the browser to run.
this was done in the name of 'simplifying' the system (along with
eliminating popups and modal interfaces)
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> 2008/10/29 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
&
is out was that when I ran the python
indexer manually it reported a error that gave me enough hints to go
looking for category.
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anced" behavior?
the right fix for this is to speed up the starting, not to force someone
to 'unlock' their system to view two web pages.
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I think we should not run the activity if it
ry
schools around the world.
I'm *very* interested in following up on what the current crop of LMSs
are missing, could do different, etc.
Apologies -- I didn't know you used moodle -- I had asked David
Cavallo and Carla and neither had knowledge of Moodle, which to me was
a surpris
and is editable. Even for this, though, if you want to edit other Chat
files, you have to navigate the filesystem.)
Potential solutions: Have them be the same view. Others?
they don't need to be exactly the same view, but if you know one you
should be able to track it down in the other.
focusing on the more complicated formats.
there is also the problem that since the journal doesn't let you specify
what program to use to open documents several of these formats will end up
beng handled by abiword (writer) instead.
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> The basic point is it is already able to support m
thing with the file.
I even tried setting it up to download it from a website and it's not
doing anything other than putting the file in the journal
even if I were able to get this functioning, it's still not really good
for reading as you need to click on links every chapter to get
ic subscriptions
to in the past, with mixed results (they are heavily column based), but
there the problems were clearly the fault of the document being read.
in this case I had book 7 of a sci-fi series that I had just finished
reading the first 6 books of over the weekend and I wanted to just
urnal, I get to all
> my pdfs by initially just typing pdf so I only have a couple of pages of
> titles to look through.
changing their titles in the journal requires that I first figure out
which is which.
I was not having any sucess using the search. it may be that I only gave
it 5 min or so and it had not yet finished indexing everything on the USB
stick, so what I was searching for wasn't known yet.
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as unknown file types and hitting start
doesn't seem to do anything (other than triggering some disk I/O)
the script is below. it looks like it's doing the right thing. the
resulting zip file has the book + library.info contents.
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#!/bin/sh
## usage: xolbundle filename
filen
thread.
the page for read_etexts doesn't say what it does that makes it better
than the default read (other than being able to read zip files and
gutenberg formats)
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r directory within file:///media/MYDRIVE
> return error -2142109675 from XPCOM loadURI(). Is this an error from
> Bitfrost?
I'm not getting an error, but it's also not going into the direcory.
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you are trying to
read. I initially tried to put it on the right edge of the screen, but I
discovered that it's very easy to flex the case enough to click the mouse
butten when in tablet mode, which scrolls you to whereever the mouse
happens to be sitting on the scrollbar.
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vertically through the document works for many things, but not for
multi-column documents.
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>> opening the book in .pdf comes the closest to working. I was still
>> unable to copy the document, so I had to try and read with the USB
>> stick haning out of the machine. I could zoom so that the text is the
>> width of the screen, but after doing so I w
m reading that through the
browser.
for some reason it has a scrollbar on the bottom of the screen indicating
that it things that there is 10% or so off to the right.
I am happy to report problems like I have in this message, and am willing
to test
timestamps and then remember
'the one from today is .rtf, the one from yesterday is .pdf, the one from
the day before is .html, etc)
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de, where the CPU goes to
sleep fairly quickly (the faster the wake-up when a button is pressed the
more quickly it can go to sleep), but the screen doesn't change. only if
the system is idle for a long time (tens of min) should the cpu wake up
and decide to dim/blank the scree
to combine the common,
required libraries togeather into one?
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> I hope to dig deeper in the near future, but I am concerned at my lack
> of inspiration about how to deal with this problem. (Other than by
> rewriting into a different language.) I still do not consider the
> mod_p
ame, this won't matter. but for
someone studying some technical content this breaks their concentration
and hinders them.
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having the system suspend browse when you switch away from
it is doing exactly the wrong thing.
that being said, having some signal that means 'you don't have the users
eyeballs right now, don't waste time on animations/etc' could be useful,
the problem would be def
hought this was supposed to be
improved, but I saw the same thing when I upgraded to 767 a week ago.
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e on the concurrency
issues, then we could sensibly look at moving the actual TX handling
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7;ll have
> to put it on a thumb drive and take it to a Kinko's or an internet cafe'.
> Not at all sure how that will work out. Talk about your 'paperless office'!
while since you also don't have a printer this doesn't apply to you (o
we could in fact get some of your cycles; I'm
> just saying that the answer doesn't seem obvious and straightforward.)
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tion needs to happen on the client, but all the other things
that you list are server-side issues, aren't they?
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ough a browser, we have a browser, are we almost
> done yet? :-)
if we have the ability to send to a IPP server on a remote system, that
'remote system' can be a $49 ethernet to parallel/USB device (with the
driver in the laptop).
I also suspect that many of the
gt; not in client apps.
why not use DHCP to provide the lpr print server IP address and then use
that for the IPP printer with a default queue name? (or see if you can
abuse the DHCP option to provide a URL instead of just a list of servers)
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reated as a legacy
> capability, from where we sit.
good, I've tried configuring systems this way with CUPS and found it
extremely frustrating to work around CUPS to make get it working. I will
be very glad to see this in place.
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>- Jim
>
>
the specific printer
on the device initiating the print job.
the setup that we would want to use for the XO would be to have them all
create the job using a single definition (postscript would be traditional
for this sort of thing) and then have the server c
hat information is not available for the redhat family, but is
available for Ubuntu. That could be a significant difference.
> The wider Sugar and software appropriate for kids is available, the
> better we all are.
definantly.
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> - Jim
>
>
>
cle? at the very least it telegraphs the long-term support versions.
it's not like you really depend on the underlying distro for very much.
it's mostly a convienient codebase to start from in developing your own
distro.
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> -walter
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:06 PM,
ake simple decisions rather than definitively diagnose or assess patients.
the key thing to remember is that in many cases the alternative isn't a
in-person visit to the specialist, it's going without professional
diagnosis entirely.
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> Just food for thought. Best wishes
>
.
saying that it's no good for those cases if valid, but the way it is being
said implies that if it's not good enough for those cases it's completely
useless for all cases, and shouldn't be deployed.
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This is also a Sugar Labs branding issue. Sugar Learning Platform does a
better job of conveying we are not a stand alone solution. We are a common
point of collaboration on which educators and developers build solutions for
their own unique classrooms and situations.
thanks
david
On Wed, Oct
uding
the initial filesystem and the firmware checking the integrity of the
kernel partition (and the software there checks the integrity of the root
filesystem)
it works well for Tivo in the locked-down mode, and it's been easy for
people to hack it once the firmware check is disabled
David
ng to my measurements the GeodeLX can fetch a new cache line (32
> bytes) every 20-25 clocks.
> Unless you can do the hash <2 clocks/byte then you will only earn the looping
> time (assuming that the hashed blocks fit into the L1 cache).
is that spee
takes to do the hash calculation for
> security checking. That costs a couple of seconds. Ivan and I worked
> pretty hard to minimize that time, choosing one of the faster hash
> functions.
can you do the hash as you copy it? it should be pretty close to free at
that
stuff
in a filesystem image on your real filesystem (accessed via a loop mount
type of thing), similar code to what grub uses to find files on the system
could find the security filesystem. this would be more complicated then a
seperate partition, but has the advantage that you only loose the space
that you need for the security stuff.
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ter in the boot sequence
the default distro initrd images do a _lot_ of stuff that takes a
significant amount of time, but since the OLPC initrd is doing completely
different stuff it should not have the same problem, but that goes back to
'make it do as little as possible'
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of them at boot time (if there are no USB devices plugged in)
>
> As mentioned, our wireless module is on an internal USB port. To what extent
> does that complicate the situation?
it shouldn't.
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n't need modules to boot, why do you need initrd? you should be
able to just do everything from the main partition.
neither of these require any changes to the Fedora stuff (I do this on
every system that I run, have done so with many different distros, an
'typical' users are, but rather the
fact that the name can imply who 'should' be using it.
it may be best to just name it 'security bypass' key and then explain why
developers and testers may want to bypass security on their systems.
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Why not call it a "tester's key"? It is principally useful for testing
late-breaking versions.
tester key or experimenter key would be better (although experimenter key
may have implications that make it sound too attractive)
Davi
a couple of days (especially over
the weekend) it may not be possible to get keys for people who don't
already have them.
many people who would be good testers don't consider themselves
'developers' so would not get them on their own.
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activity that's
supported, even if all that the 'activity' consists of is a web page that
shows what the activity is and has a link to download it (useful for
activities that are otherwise too large or not appropriate for all ages)
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; is usually somewhere hidden in the menu. In some cases the close
> button may not be accessible at all (eg: a rogue popup in firefox
> which somehow circumvents the popup blocker and disables the menubar).
> Note that this is a problem with the existing Firefox activity as
>
s an article in there about managing large numbers
of APs to give optimal coverage in very dense environments
http://usenix.org/publications/login/2008-08/pdfs/murty.pdf
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> This also assumes that the APs, that the large schools have
> purchased, support WSD correctly.
>
>
formance
difference compared to ram such that you wouldn't want it in any case?
either way, the profiling it does of which pages are used (and how much)
could be useful in figuring out what binaries should be stored
uncompressed.
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Anyone here motivated to turn Chrome into an activity?
don't we need to wait until they have a linux version out? my
understanding is that the current release is windows only.
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device class. For a while during development, all three functions on the
chip had the same ID. We made them fix that fairly promptly, and we can
forget about it now.
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(C
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(Carried in git://git.infradead.org/~dwmw2/random-2.6.git)
drivers/mtd/nand/cafe_nand.c |6 +-
include/linux/pci_ids.h |1 +
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diff --git a/drivers/mtd/nand/cafe_na
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2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 del
On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 19:01 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote:
> Hi
>
> maybe this can be of interest,
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peripherals/Robots
>
> this is planned with open hardware.
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Open_Hardware.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Carl
an interesting idea...
I guess I shall try the reverse... install debian, then sugar and then
see if I can get collaboration working...
David
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:54 AM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 07:13:29PM +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
heys...
Anyone know if deb XO will work on the Eee? (old gen) and classmate (new gen)?
David Van Assche
2008/8/28 Christoph Derndorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:32 AM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Mitch Bradley wrote:
>
any different networks, with proxies, but not routing between the
networks. nowdays I just either use IP addresses or make sure that every
system/proxy in the path can resolve the name.
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;s possible to setup a fairly
complicated proxy setup where you use different proxies to get to
different destinations (google for proxy.pac) it's possible to write that
logic in a way that requires DNS lookups, I don't know if it's possible to
write it in a way
server when printing should make this strategy
very attractive.
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included a bunch
of extra functionality if you are root.
for example dbus may find a bunch more things that you can do if you are
root.
it would probably be worthwhile narrowing down which module(s) increase
their size if you are root.
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>
> Nothing specific to cerebro up to t
with you), but they didn't and this
is one of the things that can happen.
there is also information outside of this e-mail about what's going on
here. LWN has information up at http://lwn.net/Articles/295134/
your initial observation that this
ne
4. How do build numbers, stable/joyride, relate to OS versions?
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This is an excellent project that will certainly open up the xos to a
much wider audience... I for one, would love to test photoshop and
dreamweaver on it, since these apps seem to work great on wine
already...
Kind Regards,
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On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Chris Ball <[EM
The LTSP version of Fedora does automounting of drives (usb, floppy,
cd)... maybe take a look at the code used to implement it...
David
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Martin Langhoff
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> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Martin Langhoff
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Well dont know if this helps but I was playing with dovecot recently,
and remember reading this:
# Locking method for index files. Alternatives are fcntl, flock and dotlock.
# Dotlocking uses some tricks which may create more disk I/O than other locking
# methods. NFS users: flock doesn't work, re
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 18:08 +1200, Neil Graham wrote:
>
> With regards to using activities on the XO I've tried to be accepting of the
> sugar interface style, but this activity crystallizes things for me. I'm now
> prepared to move to the sugar-sucks camp. I've used many and written a few
>
and enter the command to get a developer key by switching
back and forth from Sugar (where browse is displaying it) to the console
(where you need to type it)
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> The idea was to understand what limits we'd face
> using the console for root access instead of a special terminal
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