Re: wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-30 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:45 PM, John Gilmore g...@toad.com wrote: I talked with one of the 802.11 experts I know. He's quite sure that there should be no problem on Atheros hardware at least. He has no problem transmitting arbitrary packets at arbitrary times and no problem receiving packets

Re: wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/10/26 Albert Cahalan acaha...@gmail.com: The issue is that A and B are both hosting their own networks, they are both beacon masters, spewing beacons based off their own clocks. How is this any different than the mesh

Re: wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: 2009/10/23 Albert Cahalan acaha...@gmail.com: Thus, properly done, the XO labled C might have either of: a. wlan0 to reach A, and wlan1 to reach B (same hardware) b. wlan0, from which wlan0_0 and wlan0_1 are instantiated

wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)

2009-10-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
Daniel Drake writes: Another laptop C comes along A C -- B This laptop can see both of these independent laptops (each having its independent network). It can join one or the other. It cannot join both. Hence this XO can only communicate with A or B, but not both (even

Re: Disk layout for XO-1.5

2009-08-05 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Martin Langhoffmartin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Albert Cahalanacaha...@gmail.com wrote: First partition: FAT16 with 4 KB clusters Second partition: LVM with ext4 Gentlemen, before LVM can be considered, we need - fs resize

Re: Disk layout for XO-1.5

2009-08-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
First partition: FAT16 with 4 KB clusters Second partition: LVM with ext4 In the LVM, filesystems should be 50% to 80% full. This leaves some extra space unused. As filesystems fill up, the filesystems can be expanded to use the extra space. Don't shrink filesystems unless they drop down to 15%

Re: is anyone actually doing Windows on XO work here?

2009-07-22 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu wrote: This is largely because you aren't doing normal Linux development. Normal. Now there's a term that's relative. Is GNOME normal? Or is it KDE? Or XFCE, LXDE? Enlightenment, maybe? For this purpose: all of the above plus FVWM

Re: is anyone actually doing Windows on XO work here?

2009-07-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
Ed McNierney writes: We've tried many times to make the very simple story about Windows support on the XO clear. The conspiracy theorists don't really care. If you don't live in a fact-based universe, facts are irrelevant. Mitch is quite right, but we've said just about all of that before to

user-space XO hardware detection

2009-07-10 Thread Albert Cahalan
It's getting more and more important to be able to detect XO hardware from userspace. One can no longer assume that Sugar implies XO because Sugar runs elsewhere and because non-Sugar is getting common on the XO. Considering the 1.5 hardware, assuming that Geode implies XO is not going to be

Re: user-space XO hardware detection

2009-07-10 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Albert Cahalanacaha...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose the real needs are: 1. detect that the screen has XO-like blur 2. detect that the keyboard has XO-style keys 2a. detect that there

Re: Browse.xo performance resolution - Hulahop 200dpi vs Browse 134dpi

2009-05-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
Martin Langhoff writes: The short version of it is that canvas (and image rendering in general) is hurting lots due to the dpi being hardcoded to 134 which forces Gecko into image scaling games. Just setting layout.css.dpi to 96 makes Browse much snappier in general, and incredibly faster in

Re: [Server-devel] Questions

2009-05-09 Thread Albert Cahalan
Martin Langhoff writes: 2009/5/9 david david at leeming-consulting.com: They have better luck (maybe my fingers are sweaty more than most) and I have noticed students often wrapping cloth around their finger to use the touch pad. It remains a real problem, but people do get by. The devel@

Re: I2C bus assignments

2009-05-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
I have a bad feeling about swiping the CRT I2C. It kind of leaves a needless landmine for video driver authors who would prefer to unify their code (XO and non-XO hardware) as much as possible. Suppose a video driver attempts E-DDC. Is it going to confuse some non-compliant I2C device or actually

Re: 3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
Hal Murray writes: I've always thought of slide into view as annoying. I have to wait around for the thing I want to look at to finish dancing. Me too, which is why I specified fast and rapid. Animations commonly suffer from various problems: a. You really do have to wait, because the

Re: CL1B power distribution

2009-04-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
John Watlington writes: - The SD slot and USB ports may be powered in suspend This is just in case some SD cards or USB devices don't handle being suspended aggressively. We will support laptop wakeup on interrupt from any of these ports (SD or USB). Under software control

3D engine uses in a no-nonsense GUI (was: XO Gen 1.5)

2009-04-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
Christoph Derndorfer writes: I honestly can't think of a use-case for including any sort of 3D acceleration into the basic Sugar and activities. There's about a million significantly more important things that people should be working on before even thinking about 3D (IMHO). One can use a 3D

Re: Check this out

2009-04-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
Aaron Konstam writes: Unfortunately, currently it seems to be only able to translate whole pages not words or paragraphs. The more you have, the better you can translate: I offered several different types of foods. They liked a banana more than onions, roast beef, garlic, or beets. In

Re: announce: alternate power management

2009-03-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
pgf writes: so: i've packaged a new version of powerd. the big change is that it now allows for the two modes of operation i mentioned last week on the list: dim sleep, screen on sleep, screen off shutdown or:

Re: OLPC upgrades

2009-02-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
Bobby Powers writes: 2009/2/2 Tiago Marques tiagomnm at gmail.com: Python is killing the XO, what's being done in that regard? The $100 laptop will always be hardware limited, how can python be a benefit and not a *huge* burden? I for one can't get my head around that. The idea is to give

for those recently laid off...

2009-01-07 Thread Albert Cahalan
In case any low-level hackers are included in the layoffs, note that my employer can hire a good number of them. (if US citizen) In case you know somebody appropriate who no longer reads devel, please let him know. People might unsubscribe when laid off, or might have been subscribed via a

Re: Why not use swfdec-mozilla?

2009-01-04 Thread Albert Cahalan
Peter Robinson writes: I've found it very cpu intensive on Fedora 9 and 10 with a penryn dual core processor. It basically pins one of the cores to 100% CPU That could be good. 70% would be more worrisome, because we'd have to assume the CPU was really doing the rendering. At 100%, it becomes

Re: No surprise on memory

2008-12-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
[multiple people] I recently learned a few very important things about Linux memory management (I'm speaking about how its supposed to work, irrespective of any bugs). Operating systems experts already know all of this, but I did not. This is a good reminder for those of us who tend to

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-11-02 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Cahalan wrote: Memory reservations are a different beast entirely. Running out of memory becomes approximately impossible because the user is blocked from starting too many activities. This seems like

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-11-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Cahalan wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could the oom-killer have a hook to enable this functionality to be invoked instead of simply killing the application

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-10-31 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you continue down this path (auto-saving application state to NAND when we run out of memory)? How tenable is the idea of saving application state to NAND on our system? Could the oom-killer have a hook to enable

Re: Sugar unusable as an e-book reader

2008-10-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
S Page writes: HTML in Browse integrates cleanly with the library/home page, can use advanced CSS for attractive layout, takes you from a link to a document without the download-Journal-Read steps, avoids PDF's fundamental broken-ness rendering a paper page on a screen, has JavaScript to add

Re: The XO laptop gets a Windows makeover

2008-10-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was a very poor experiment and the article had a number of items of misinformation. The author of the article did not take advantage of the fact that she had 2 XOs . She did not boot both in Sugar to observe the collaboration capabilities of Sugar and

Re: The XO laptop gets a Windows makeover

2008-10-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: File sharing is not an active real time collaboration tool by any means. Right. Active real-time collaboration is nice, and I wish my own editor had it, but I think you're overvaluing it greatly. In sugar multiple

Re: journal is hard + sugar and the digital age

2008-10-09 Thread Albert Cahalan
Edward Cherlin writes: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Carlos Nazareno object404 at gmail.com wrote: 3) Basically - The journal is really hard for people/ kids to use over a longer period of time. Kids and teachers can't find things that they did unless it was done within the last 30

Re: Filesystem path ordering overrated.

2008-10-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
C. Scott Ananian writes: The response usually is that additional context is sufficient to disambiguate tag sets, you don't actually need ordering. That is, it's okay if a/b is indistinguishable from b/a -- in practice one will really be c/a/b and the other will be b/a/d or whatever, and you

Re: idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Jim Gettys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that more current Linux kernels, such as that in 8.2, are much better at being able to account for what process is using what memory. It's probably worth a little experimentation after 8.2 ships to see if the original

Re: [IAEP] Coloring books on the XO?

2008-09-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
C. Scott Ananian writes: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Samuel Klein sj at laptop.org wrote: Coloring something certainly helps remember it. And changing the colors of shapes/objects in a drawing or scene or skin is one of the simple pleasures in life. A simple implementation of coloring

idea for running out of RAM

2008-09-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
For the zillionth time, my kids brought my XO to a halt. They started up two copies of Tux Paint and two copies of Colors! (BTW, boy do I hate names with built-in sentence-ending punctuation) The end result is that the activities die (unacceptable), usually via power button. There are a number of

Re: G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
Here is a list, most important first: Journal required Browse needed for tech support XoIRC needed for tech support Terminalneeded for tech support Record kids love taking pictures DOOMkids love shooting monsters SimCity kids like destroying cities Ruler

Re: [sugar] Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

2008-09-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:01 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 1:41 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The case of b/a being distinct from a/b is necessary. You may call it a necessary evil, but in any case is is necessary. Surprisingly, it's

Re: [sugar] Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

2008-09-19 Thread Albert Cahalan
Eben Eliason writes: On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Eduardo H. Silva hoboprimate at gmail.com wrote: 2008/9/19 C. Scott Ananian cscott at laptop.org: Eben, Eduardo, and I have been chatting about this some over IRC. What I find most interesting here is how *filesystem paths* (well, URL

Re: CIFS will be strategic in some settings, but not included in kernel

2008-08-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
Martin Langhoff writes: In that sense, it is very simple - as a programmer, if I am going to spend significant time working on a feature like this I want it to 1 - work for the deployments - this is the most important thing! 2 - work for G1G1 users too - they are the donors and enthusiasts!

Re: The tedium of erasing journal entries

2008-08-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
Aaron Konstam writes: Someone in a recent message suggested that people should learn to routinely erase Journal entries to prevent the NAND from filling up. Unless I have missed something that is a very tedious task to lay on someone using the current GUI interface for erasing journal

Re: The tedium of erasing journal entries

2008-08-03 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3 Aug 2008, at 23:03, Albert Cahalan wrote: This is rather unfair. I take it you've just filled up all available space and jffs2 is now thrashing (as would happen on almost any file system)? df -m . reports 1024 blocks

Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list

2008-08-02 Thread Albert Cahalan
Morgan Collett writes: We didn't get to discuss this activity developers' mailing list at the Sugar meetings. However I've had no negative feedback. If anyone is opposed to this list, please speak up quickly and loudly. Otherwise I will get it created in the next week, publicize it and

Re: Terminals

2008-08-02 Thread Albert Cahalan
Look, there is no reason to care about hashes. What is the fear here, that the jffs2 filesystem will fail? We have pathnames. Permissions are granted by the user. The only exception is when the OS is initially installed, or when the whole OS is upgraded. Permissions are tied to an inode. Since

Re: video bleeds through somewhat between sessions

2008-08-01 Thread Albert Cahalan
Jordan Crouse writes: Video is muxed to the visible screen through the use of a color key - given a rectangle of some size, the hardware compares all of the pixels in that rectangle against a set color - if they match, then a pixel of the video frame is shown, otherwise not. That should have

Re: Terminals

2008-07-31 Thread Albert Cahalan
Michael Stone writes: One of our present security difficulties is that the Terminal activity is not isolated. It is de-isolated so that it can serve the dual role of root terminal and 'general exploration' terminal. Perhaps reviving the Quake Terminal for the root-terminal role and isolating

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Michael Stone writes: On the other hand, it would be rather trivial for activities which cared to check their dependencies in a adhoc fashion (by running rpm themselves if they wish) and by reporting errors if necessary dependencies are unsatisfied. This is far from trivial. Sure, I could do

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Mikus Grinbergs writes: There are people like me who like TuxPaint better than Oficina. However, to run TuxPaint, users of current Joyride need to re-install SDL_mixer and libmikmod. I hope you've filed a bug to request that those libraries be put back. I could use libpaper as well; the

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Daniel Drake writes: I'll look into why SDL_mixer went away, and what it is used for... It's for audio. Reasons for use include: * Nicely compatible with other SDL stuff * Cross-platform (BeOS, MacOS X, Win95, Vista...) * Easy support for stereo positioning * Handles *.ogg files * Good enough

Re: Tuxpaint activity is bloated

2008-07-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
FYI, the Tux Paint port is mine. I have CVS commit rights to the main Tux Paint code base. Probably 5% to 10% of the code is mine. Mitch Bradley writes: The filesystem layout for the tuxpaint activity has a lot of boilerplate that contributes to it taking up a lot of space on NAND. In some

Re: Parallel desktops

2008-06-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: There have been periodic suggestions, including some by potential OLPC buyers, that they would be more interested if the project offered a GUI that more closely resembled the environments to which they are accustomed. ~ I strongly disagree with these people,

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-27 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Smalltalk community is puzzled that anybody would prefer to work on Smalltalk in something other than Smalltalk. Unless you want to rewrite

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:13 PM, K. K. Subramaniam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 25 Jun 2008 12:08:44 am Albert Cahalan wrote: *All the source code* for *every* piece of byte code in the image is available, and not only that, we even *ship* it No. This is not true. You ship

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 3:02 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before drifting to a new topic, let me make sure one thing; did you get convinced that FSF's definition of software freedom doesn't contradict with a binary image file with right tools to fully

Re: SuperUser permission for the Driver??

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
Benjamin M. Schwartz writes: There is a planned design to allow the user to grant extra privileges to different Activities, but those privileges will probably never extend to loading arbitrary kernel modules. VMWare-1.xo It's the only way to get usable performance on a system that doesn't

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 26.06.2008 um 10:53 schrieb Albert Cahalan: This idea of applying patch collections is disturbing. It reminds me of the terrible mess that Minix was back in 1991, when the license permitted people to share patches

Re: Running regular X11 apps

2008-06-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I gathered from my experiments, I think it makes sense for us to go with Metacity + maximus. That would require no code changes in metacity and minor changes in sugar. If we want to support activity icons

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
I'm glad that Debian didn't break the rules for etoys. You're claiming to be open source, yet you've LOST the source code decades ago. Hacking up binary images is shockingly horrible software non-engineering. You've no justification for taking shots at gcc, which is entirely capable of being

fixing etoys

2008-06-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
Here are some ideas that might help you fix some of the problems with start-up performance, shut-down performance, open source, and software engineering practices. You're trying to do a persistant system image on an OS that wasn't really designed for it. If you were on an exotic system with a

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 24.06.2008 um 20:04 schrieb Albert Cahalan: I'm glad that Debian didn't break the rules for etoys. You're claiming to be open source, yet you've LOST the source code decades ago. Hacking up binary images

Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-30 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do believe that, practically speaking, all of this is moot. Windows uses both SD card storage and the NAND flash storage. (NAND storage being

Re: [OLPC Security] Bitfrost and dual-boot

2008-05-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:39 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Windows runs from an SD card, but there is not much space left on that SD card to store user files. User files are stored in NAND at the

Re: XO-2

2008-05-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
John Watlington writes: The loss of a keyboard is mourned. But so much of the activities the young kids that OLPC is targetting do are more manual and direct. Kids too young for a keyboard? That would be below school age. The desire to maximize display area (but clam-shell, not tablet, for

Re: [IAEP] [sugar] OLPC's bizarre behaviors

2008-05-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
Note that we *cannot* share much of the information about the possible alternatives we are examining for Gen-2 hardware until decisions are final; it is the basis of serious negotiations among competing parties, under non-disclosure agreements. Lest rumors of more OLPC secrets get started,

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Alex Belits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eben Eliason wrote: For what it's worth, I would be careful to portray the low-achievers and the brightest as opposites. As I note below, I frequently find that some of the brightest are also some of the low-achievers, due

Re: Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-19 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, people can't learn Constructionism simply by reading

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view

2008-05-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reason: it's not at all related to laptop computers Fact: it's not universally valued by teachers This *is* a project pushing the envelope

Re: Constructionism (was Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view)

2008-05-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stop here, and please _read_ on constructionism. (Hint: most

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view

2008-05-17 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Cahalan wrote: Watch the video. XP boots fast, What does a fast boot up have to do with the overall usability and productivity of a system? You can always show a boot screen early in the process and say its boots

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view

2008-05-17 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need computers for constructionism. If pushing educational theories of questionable value is your thing, Can we stop beating

Re: c preprocessor.

2008-05-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
This is good, not bad. Adding glibc-headers is the proper response. The XO is really really close to having normal and standard tools for software development. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: [sugar] Microsoft

2008-05-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just look at the deal. Dual-boot costs $7 extra. Governments will not pay the extra $7 to allow dual-boot. No, Windows costs about $7 extra

Re: XP on OLPC - a contrarian view

2008-05-16 Thread Albert Cahalan
Robert Myers writes: The folks that are buying them, Ministries of Education, governments, charities all have their own agendas. They do not necessarily line up with the agendas of our real customers - children and educators, or our own. If we have to give them some of what they want, so that

Re: Microsoft

2008-05-15 Thread Albert Cahalan
Seth Woodworth writes: So as a fair practice I think it's clear that no special actions can ethically be made to prevent Windows or any other OS from running on the machine. So a Windows port for the XO isn't something that could have been preventative. Wrong. It's called tit-for-tat,

Re: [Its.an.education.project] Sugar on the EEE PC

2008-05-08 Thread Albert Cahalan
Bernie Innocenti writes: Wow, there are way more than I thought, already. And they missed this one: http://www.one2onemate.com/ This is optimized for teacher thinking. They win. :-( There is a cart, for moving the laptops to and from classrooms. It has shaped holes for the laptops. It

CIPA done (was: OLPC Project suggestions.)

2008-05-07 Thread Albert Cahalan
Child-safe web filtering on XO Regardless of its merits, CIPA requires it for XO deployments in US schools: Here are the requirements: http://ifea.net/cipa.pdf The easy way out is child ownership. The requirements only apply to computers which are owned by schools and libraries. Probably

Re: CIPA done (was: OLPC Project suggestions.)

2008-05-07 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Joshua N Pritikin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is totally half-assed. As a parent, I would be pissed off when I became aware of the quality of such an OLPC web filtering solution. How about if we place a DansGuardian transparent proxy on a public IP

Sugar\Windows won't ship

2008-04-26 Thread Albert Cahalan
Let's imagine this several ways, and see why it won't happen. First consider what a faithful Sugar\Windows system would be like. a. the familiar Start menu is gone b. regular Windows programs like Word can't run c. OS config GUI stuff is (must be) rewritten from scratch I doubt anybody wants

Re: [sugar] Mini-Conference Proposal: Toolbars Tabs (or lack thereof)

2008-03-25 Thread Albert Cahalan
Eben Eliason writes: 1. Toolbar buttons use icons instead of text as an identifier. Beyond the icon, we depend on the content of the toolbar to help define the tab, with a textual name being superfluous. This makes localization easier (well, free) and prevents text from being cut off in due

Re: UI responsiveness

2008-03-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
Mikus Grinbergs writes: ... Performance, or for us, UI responsiveness, the most visible and painful issue being start up time of applications is paramount. I'm impressed by the start up time of the (giant) TuxPaint activity. From the time I click on its icon in the Frame, it takes about

free usb8388.bin

2008-02-14 Thread Albert Cahalan
We have free firmware now: git clone git://dev.laptop.org/users/albert/usb8388 I admit that it has some... bugs. The mesh doesn't work. Power management doesn't work. Heck, it won't send/receive packets and it knows nothing of this USB thing. However, we have a blinkenlight. Ship it! BTW, what

Re: free usb8388.bin

2008-02-14 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:24 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 3:26 AM, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, what is killing my blinkenlight? I realize that it wouldn't do to hang the boot forever because of some missing firmware features

Re: How to create a new MIME type for a Sugar activity?

2008-02-09 Thread Albert Cahalan
James Simmons writes: I agree I have no business inventing my own MIME type. Yes you do, and you should ignore the x- disaster. Pick something sane, descriptive but not too generic, and be done with it. (If you use x-, then you **still** face any collision problems and you're expected to

Re: free firmware for 88W8388

2008-01-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
Dan Williams writes: No, you can't. One team reverse engineers the hardware and creates a specifications document, the second team implements (from scratch or from unencumbered FOSS sources) the firmware The only unencumbered FOSS sources are public domain. Creating BSD code from GPL code is

Re: free firmware for 88W8388

2008-01-23 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 23, 2008 6:22 PM, Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 21:03 +0100, Rózsás Gödény wrote: I hope you can make options to start with any of the 3 firmwares. Perhaps I wish to try writing a boot1 or boot2. Um, Boot1 is burned into ROM on

MIDI does support non-Western music (was: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO)

2008-01-22 Thread Albert Cahalan
imm ian writes: On 22 Jan 2008, at 4:11, Albert Cahalan wrote: You don't need to abuse pitch bends. MIDI lets you redefine the pitches of the notes. You can redefine middle C to be 1234 Hz if you like. Mmm, well, yes, but... No but. You can redefine at will, for individual notes. If you

Re: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO

2008-01-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 21, 2008 12:27 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (b) as has been pointed out repeatedly, CSound is an open standard (which incidentally predates the MIDI standard). It may be open, but it isn't much of a standard. I've only found one implementation, csound itself. There are no

Re: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO

2008-01-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 21, 2008 1:31 PM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Cahalan wrote: On Jan 21, 2008 12:27 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (b) as has been pointed out repeatedly, CSound is an open standard (which incidentally predates the MIDI standard). It may be open

Re: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO

2008-01-21 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 21, 2008 10:43 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. MIDI is limited but more or less universally spoken. Serious algocompsynth *must* involve support of MIDI. CSound recognized this years ago. I think that means file storage, input, output, etc. The keyboard produces

Re: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO

2008-01-20 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 20, 2008 3:27 AM, victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you say does not make any sense to me. The MIDI standard is *one* of many, and in fact the poorest of them all. Besides Csound is probably the most used computer music language with composers of Computer Music and its score an

Re: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO

2008-01-19 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 19, 2008 4:33 PM, victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't speak for TamTam because I am not involved in their design details, but I can say this, Csound's standard score preceeds MIDI by at least a decade (or two if you consider where it came from). It is much more flexible to convey

Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page

2008-01-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 18, 2008 4:06 AM, Antoine van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Cahalan wrote: Sorry to hear about your war. Attitudes such as this sir, is the reason that America is viewed by many nations as a belligerent and imperialistic monster. I'm sure you misinterpreted me. Maybe you

Re: Why can't i access /dev/dsp or /dev/snd on my XO

2008-01-18 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 18, 2008 11:27 PM, Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Cahalan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: You can read Hannu's take on the matter in his blog. This entry is particularly informative, but note that the code has since been released under the GPL. http://4front-tech.com

Re: Violent games on the OLPC Activities page

2008-01-17 Thread Albert Cahalan
Bryan Berry writes: I feel very strongly that violent games should not be associated with OLPC. Albert Cahalan points out that games like Doom can teach geometry and other skills. There are ways to teach those skills w/out involving violence. I work in Nepal, a country recovering from an 11

Re: font size in console

2008-01-17 Thread Albert Cahalan
Michael Stone writes: I assume you're talking about the virtual terminal here; not the Terminal activity. As root, you my try a command like: setfont sun12x22 Many people report that that font is also too small. You can try my 15x30 font, which many people love. It's attached to this

Re: font size in console

2008-01-17 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 17, 2008 11:24 PM, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Cahalan wrote: Many people report that that font is also too small. You can try my 15x30 font, which many people love. It's attached to this email. It's already the second time you attach your font. It's only 4

Re: Marvell microkernel replacement

2008-01-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Jan 13, 2008 6:42 AM, David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 02:30 -0500, Albert Cahalan wrote: David Woodhouse writes: http://www.csr.com/products/unifirange.htm They claim that that is a 1-chip solution. Is it really? I have no reason to believe otherwise

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-01-13 Thread Albert Cahalan
Bernardo Innocenti writes: Albert Cahalan wrote: Bernardo Innocenti writes: What we're actually doing is just to disable them in the default installation so that malicious activities cannot login as root or olpc and basically own the system. This is NOT needed at all. I wrote and tested

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-01-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger writes: On 13.01.2008 01:45, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: Typical Linux practice is the following: 1. One *never* allows remote shell login as root -- *ever* -- even behind a firewall. One allows only *one* user in the wheel group to log in to a shell account, and

Re: disabling root and olpc passwords

2008-01-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
Bernardo Innocenti writes: What we're actually doing is just to disable them in the default installation so that malicious activities cannot login as root or olpc and basically own the system. This is NOT needed at all. I wrote and tested an /etc/pam.d/su modification that will prohibit all

Re: Marvell

2008-01-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
Alex Gibson writes: Need internetworking support (mixing of arm and thumb code). Does gcc support that? I won't worry if not though. With a good compiler and good hackers, plain ARM will fit just fine. Alternately, one can easily switch modes by hand. For toolchains there are a few options

Re: Marvell microkernel replacement

2008-01-12 Thread Albert Cahalan
David Woodhouse writes: http://www.csr.com/products/unifirange.htm They claim that that is a 1-chip solution. Is it really? Marvell uses a 2-chip solution. If a 2-chip solution is OK, then one could start with a 1-chip softmac solution and add any arbitrary processor. That CPU could be ARM,

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