Re: [support-gang] [ANNOUNCE] Sugar Labs Licensing Referendum (non-binding) results

2011-07-13 Thread Luke Faraone
On 07/10/2011 10:23 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
 I was surprised as I had no recollection at all of the original email
 (subscribed to way too many Sugar related lists), but after some
 digging found it had been clobbered as junk email, so not sure who
 else this may have hit, but thought it worth mentioning.

Odd. Did you at least get the mail from Selectricity?

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[ANNOUNCE] Sugar Labs Licensing Referendum (non-binding) results

2011-07-10 Thread Luke Faraone
On 06/14/2011 05:42 PM, Luke Faraone wrote:
 This is a vote to determine the suggested license for future releases
 of Sugar. This poll will run from right now until Wed Jun 29 2011 at 
 midnight UTC-4.

Sorry for the late update; the reporting mechanism for our voting
software temporarily broke.

Summary: the winner was **GNU GPL version 3, or any later version**.

## Results Details ##

55 out of 217 eligible members voted, or a little more than ¼.

The full results of this election ranked the candidates in order of
preference (from most preferred to least preferred):

 1. GNU GPL version 3, or any later version
 2. GNU GPL version 2, or any later version
 3. Don't know or don't care

Each number in the table below shows how many times the candidate on the
left beat the matching candidate on the top. The winner is on the top of
the left column.
v3  v2  DC
v3  --  34  37
v2  21  --  42
DC  18  13  --

Based on a sheer count of 1st place votes, v3 received 49% of the vote,
v2 received 29% of the vote, and the apathetic position received the
remaining 22% of the vote.

Full details (and alternative election method calculations) are visible
at the Selectricity page linked in the original voting ticket email.


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Re: [Testing] Initial tests of Activities, as shipped, on a New XO-1.5

2011-03-02 Thread Luke Faraone
On 03/02/2011 08:34 AM, Thomas C Gilliard wrote:
 The Control Panel/Software Updates worked and updated 3 activities.

So the activities weren't as shipped, right?

 Note: I tested all of the activities listed in sequence in the F3 list
 This almost borked the XO-1.5.
 the memory became almost full and responses became very lethargic.
 I had to go to the journal and delete each entry, one at a time. A very
 slow process.

Perhaps you left the activities open, rather than closing them? I don't
think having journal entries should slow down Sugar that much.

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Re: [support-gang] Questions Re: Skype on XO

2011-03-01 Thread Luke Faraone
I'm not sure this is an apt question for IAEP.

On 03/01/2011 09:24 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
 I need to be able to do a 2-way video chat.  I would like to know...
 1) How much memory does Skype take up?

Disk space: the RPM page is 18.7MiB, so I'd imagine it takes up a little
bit more than that on disk.

RAM: depends.

 2) Do the instructions on the wiki at apply to 860? 

I have not tested them, but they look like they should work.

 3) What is the difference in performance between the XO-1 and the XO-1.5?
 4) What is the reason for the difference, memory or speed or both?

Probably proportional to the processors of each.

Memory would only matter if Skype tried to use more than available.

 5) Will I need to delete Activities before installing Skype?

You need to have sufficient disk space.

 6) Does it run just in Terminal in Sugar, or is there a way to use it in 

It should be accessible from the Applications menu.

 7) Can it run a video chat along with the text chat window for sending links 

That's consistent with my experience of Skype on Linux, I'd imagine it
would work similarly on the XO.

 8 Do I have to have a PC to set it up?  I am a Mac person.

The instructions provided are run on your XO.

 10) What is gstfakevideo? Do I need it? Do I want it?

Hah, it has been ages since I wrote the video instructions. Those are
*definitely* out of date, and I would be very surprised if they worked.

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Re: [Testing] New 10.1.3 build os351 for XO-1 and XO-1.5

2010-10-28 Thread Luke Faraone
On 10/28/2010 12:43 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote:
 OLPC build 10.1.3 - 351

 The rotation build.

 Does this mean rotation works now on the 1.5?

This does:

 * Screen rotation support for XO-1.5 #9350

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Licensing of Firefox.activity

2010-08-27 Thread Luke Faraone
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Hi all,

I'm looking into packaging Firefox-6 for Debian and Ubuntu, and wasn't
clear on the package's license situation.

The application was written by C. Scott in 2008, while (IIRC) he was
still at OLPC. Therefore, I'm assuming that the work is © 2008 One
Laptop per Child.

Is this accurate? If so, is the package under the GPL?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] GNOME and protecting Sugar --

2010-06-16 Thread Luke Faraone
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On 06/16/2010 10:39 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 Yes, it's the individual applications, but it's hard for users to figure
 out why the disk became full after using Firefox, and how to solve the

Try if you want something
GUI-oriented that will show you what's using your disk.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] erasing the journal and config

2009-08-27 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 04:52, James Cameron wrote:

 I've tested this method only on unlocked laptops.  For locked laptops
 some similar method might be used.

For locked laptops you would *need* to get a developer key, or have OLPC
sign the file. The latter won't happen.

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XO plastics up for grabs

2009-06-29 Thread Luke Faraone

Hi all,

I have a mixed assortment of XO plastic bits that were a byproduct of the DC
Repair Center These include both
the bottom and upper plastic shells of XOs (not faceplates). As I don't have
a use for them, and they are unlikely to be in demand, I'm wondering whether
anybody on this mailing list would want them. In total, these are the shells
from about 15-20 XOs. Being made of o

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Re: [Mbc] Introducing the OLPC Multi-Battery Charger.

2009-03-25 Thread Luke Faraone
Luke Faraone, address is on file.
Part of the DC Learning Club and the
Arlington STEM academy

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.orgwrote:

 How many XO's do you have in your current deployment/pilot?

We're developers and enthusiasts, but in our community testbed we have about
30 XOs.  We use XOs in the classroom (high school) as development tools with
Sugar as the target platform.

Where is your deployment/pilot?

Washington, DC

What power source would you be using? AC or DC?


 What power source (AC or DC) do you see as most useful for your

AC, we're in an area of high power availability.

 Would you purchase extra batteries for use with the MBC?

No, we have plenty (about 20 batteries in the DC Repair Center stock).

 What time frame you would roll out MBC units.

How many MBC units do you think your deployment would need in the short
 and long term?

If we get a deployment off the ground we would probably need 2 to 4 units.
Until then, we need 1, and would just perform testing etc.
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Re: [support-gang] the keyhandler.ppy mystery

2009-03-20 Thread Luke Faraone
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 There is a file /usr/share/sugar/shell/view/ on the XO that
 presumably defines key use.

 Does anyone know if that file gets munged will installing another build
 replace it with a fresh copy?

Yes, it will.

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Re: [support-gang] the keyhandler.ppy mystery

2009-03-20 Thread Luke Faraone
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.comwrote:


 If you are talking about the developer key, mine has been through the
 installation of several builds will no problems.

No, he's talking about a python source file which had been modified.

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Re: [IAEP] DC Photo Jam 2 - New batch of photos of SoaS running onnetbooks

2009-03-17 Thread Luke Faraone
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.comwrote:

 I seem to recall this is one of those conversations that comes up
 periodically, and that once someone / people created a wiki page with
 thoughts on a partitioning layout design that could be of broad use.
 Does anyone know where that wiki page is?  I couldn't find it with
 some naive google searches...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] instructions for flashing SoaS on a XO

2009-03-06 Thread Luke Faraone
2009/3/6 Wade Brainerd

 Glad to hear it works, I'm going to try it this weekend on my XO.
 I wonder if we could get the release team to execute these steps
 automatically for each release, and then make .img files available on along with the .iso files?  That would skip a lot
 of potential mistakes that users might make, and would lower the barrier to
 entry (e.g. no Fedora or Ubuntu machine req).

I can probably have that done via a cron job on (running F9
currently) that scps the result to

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-02-11 Thread Luke Faraone
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:

 I like that part.  Are there criteria for removing someone's project
 if it's deemed inappropriate?

Not yet, but I assume if someone thinks that somebody else's use of SL
infrastrucutre is not under the project scope we'll discuss it on the
sugar-devel or IAEP mailing list.

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Re: [Testing] Notes from an impromptu 8.2.1 Release Mtg.

2009-01-26 Thread Luke Faraone
Try staging-11.


On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:33 PM, S Page wrote:

 Michael Stone wrote:
  ... how to push 8.2.1 a few inches closer to release.
  The main conclusion that we reached after we updated
  was that staging-9 [1] needs some testing! still points to staging-7
 and says The 8.2.1 build is currently identical to 8.2.0.  ??!

 The instructions in Friends in testing say Clean-install the #Build
 under test, but I tried olpc-update from 8.2.0 anyway.

 `sudo olpc-update staging-9` gives
 I don't think the requested build number exists.

 `sudo olpc-update -v -v -v -v -v --latest=staging` gives
 (that's all)

 Is olpc-update possible, or are the instructions correct? :)

 =S Page
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Downtime for

2009-01-23 Thread Luke Faraone
Hi All,

We'll be running some upgrades on teach.l.o tomorrow around 9AM. It's
unlikely that there will be any downtime, but we've backed up all user data
to crank.l.o and created a VM just in case the upgrade takes longer than

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration using qemu emulation

2008-12-13 Thread Luke Faraone
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:24, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote:

 Or run the school server on a spare machine or virtual machine. It has an
 ejabberd server as part of its yummy goodness.  Btw without offering offense
 to Qemu, vmware server is free as in beer on Windows, and its networking is
 very easy to configure

No offense to VMware, VirtualBox (OSE) is free as in freedom on
Windows/Linux/OSX/Solaris,  its networking is similarly easily configured,
and it's freely redistributable.

One only needs to sudo apt-get it on Ubuntu to install it.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Add Fedora logo to Sugar

2008-12-06 Thread Luke Faraone
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:26, Sebastian Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 2008/12/6 Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:05, Sebastian Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Uh, why?
  It is, after all, a installation of RedHat's _Fedora_ OS (albiet with

 To put it succinctly, actually, fedora is a distribution of GNU+Linux,
 a free operating system. Specifically, out of GNU+Linux, the Linux
 bit represents less than 1%.

This is more of a religious war as well as a matter of preference; RH has
chosen the Linux branding, while Debian (the only widely popular distro to
do so) uses the GNU/ prefix.

In a more reconciliatory note, perhaps a swarm of logos might emerge,
 as bemasc suggested to me on our XO Chat: GNU, Linux, fedora, python,
 and all the rest of the pack.

Hm... we could have a link in the about my XO section that opens up a page
in browse that describes all the components that make up the starch stack.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Add Fedora logo to Sugar

2008-12-06 Thread Luke Faraone
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:37, Simon Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 10:18:39 -0500
 Sebastian Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I was surprised that our main UI metaphor - a CHILD, the center of
  activities... a Symbol for Interacting and Sharing... would be
  restricted for our use as a community movement.

 Personally I am very supprised that the 'XO' child symbol would be limited
 in such a way. Do we have an offical word on this.

  But now we're expected to embed another Copyrighted, Trademarked logo,
  that carries no meaning or significance for our target audience, nor
  any possible use in the user interface.

 Any branding should be contained within optional packages (maybe which are
 distribution specific) so that they can be completely removed if need be.

It would be trivial to create a index page, similar to the existing library
indexer, which stitched together all of the component packages information.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Add Fedora logo to Sugar

2008-12-06 Thread Luke Faraone
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:45, Sebastian Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Hm... we could have a link in the about my XO section that opens up a
  in browse that describes all the components that make up the starch
 Sure, only I'm pretty sure this is not what RedHat had in mind.

Maybe not, but I am sure that we (or they) can produce something that
satisfies all interested parties, explaining how great the Fedora distro is
etc. while also giving credit to upstream.

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Re: [sugar] XO identity shared via Browse

2008-12-04 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 19:17, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm copying in Devel and will drop the sugar list on further replies
 (hope that's the right netiquette in this case...).

(note: I'm not on devel, so please keep me CC'd)

   security)   who are the principals?
 what are their goals?
 what attacks concern us?

 GS - In general I don't want any other devices to be able to appear to
 be the XO. We can assume that the XS - XO is a secure network not
 visible to the outside workd (whether that is true in practice is
 another story). So I moved the encryption and stringent security
 requirements to the optional case where the XO is talking to a non-XS

I'd rather not make that assumption. Some schools may not have a _local_
school server (even dispite our best wishes) or a student may want to access
the server from a non-local connection. The XS, IMHO, should support the
road warrior use case (at least for post-registration)

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Re: [support-gang] G1G1 upgrade question I've received

2008-11-28 Thread Luke Faraone
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:57, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:49:14AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 maybe.  but a README would be pretty easy.

 I like READMEs, but I don't want to be in the business of maintaining
 them. Unfortunately, I also don't really want to give the whole world
 shell access to download.l.o. Compromise suggestions?

  (e.g. boilerplate text, redirect-to-wiki, create restricted account,
  use a cronjob, ...)

You could do one of the following:

   - Have a script that pulls from a designated git branch every X hours
   - Give a maintainer a SFTP account restricted/chrooted to that directory.

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Re: debxo 0.3 release

2008-11-17 Thread Luke Faraone
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 15:04, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 01:42:17PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 2008-11-17, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I believe you can resolve these warnings by running the locale-gen
  I had already run that, and the discouraging results pasted in the top
  of the pastebin.

 The error message and its location in the source [1]:

  /* Map the header and all the administration data structures.  */
  p = mmap64 (NULL, total, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0);
  if (p == MAP_FAILED)
  int errval = errno;
  unlink (fname);
  error (EXIT_FAILURE, errval, _(cannot map archive header));

 ... suggest that the problem is that localegen is trying to do a shared
 writeable mmap.  These do not work on jffs2 [2].

 I don't know the best way to proceed, but it would appear we need to
 raise the issue with upstream.  It will not be fixed in jffs2.

 That said, I am running debxo 0.3 base and not seeing the same error
 messages.  (I see that the locale is set to POSIX immediately after

This is very odd.

I do not experience this problem right after install, but only after
updating, locale is set to a new version, which may be when this bug is

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Re: debxo 0.3 release

2008-11-15 Thread Luke Faraone

Andres Salomon-4 wrote:
  - A new 'base' desktop has been added.  This is a minimal install,
 with no graphics or X at all.  It's good for rescue situations, or
 where you have a local package mirror and don't want to waste bandwidth
 downloading a graphical desktop image.

Something strange when installing/removing packages under the base

This warning/error also occured when I was using the olpc-update debian

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Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Files

2008-10-29 Thread Luke Faraone
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 20:50, Bill Bogstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  the fact that they will quickly disappear off the screen, and may be
  auto-deleted by the system greatly limits their value.

 Only if they don't get used.  In which case, those entries should
 scroll off the bottom and get auto-deleted. The same way that email
 client users usually delete the 'welcome to the system' email that
 many systems generate.  Once a user learns the basics of the
 activities, they will spend less and less time consulting the manual
 and the screen real-estate it takes up in the Journal is better suited
 for other things.

Until they need to consult their manual, which sugar decided they didn't
need and expunged.

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Re: [sugar] frame gets in the way when alt-tabbing

2008-09-22 Thread Luke Faraone
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 16:58, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [Since there is a key dedicated
 to bringing up Journal when needed, I sometimes patch
 to not even show Journal during alt-tabbing.]

I was thinking about posting this even before I finished reading this.

+1 on both hide-the-frame and dont-alt-tab-to-journal.

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