Re: Announcing another early Android build for XO-4
Hi Installed c:geo (geocaching app) gps essentials and osmand (open street map). In all cases some or all of the screens display blank, all black. One thing they have in common is that they display maps. Another is that they use gps data when available, they should still work with no gps, I expect, because they will work on my phone with gps turned off. Tony An Android 4.3.1 (Jelly Bean) build for the XO-4 laptop. OLPC is preparing an Android, Sugar and Gnome dual-boot system for the XO-4. Our next development build is available, with the following changes: - fix a performance regression on 1 GB RAM laptops, - add support for Marvell 8686 wireless card, #12771, - add support for boot from external SD card slot, #12782, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Android http://build.laptop.org/android/2014-06-05/ Note: the .zd file has the same name as previous releases. The md5sum is ead265b913b0d9a469f546f5f59d2db3. Note: the Sugar and Gnome operating system build remains unchanged. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)
And finally a 1.75 image http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo1.75/1/ installed image ok Browse works downloaded and installed terminal and turtle blocks ok default font a bit big Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] XO on Fedora 20 (was Re: [GSoC] Porting To Python3)
And finally a 1.75 image http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo1.75/1/ installed image ok Browse works downloaded and installed terminal and turtle blocks ok default font a bit big A few things don't work, presumably just not included in the image: Gnome Write: import error abiword Speak: import error gst ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Multi-touch [ Devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 6]
No, don't have one. fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: part text/plain1115 Me: SHC23800033 Q7B37 I can't run or easily install most apps because of the unsupported wifi module have you tried a USB ethernet adapter? (hoping you have one to try.) i haven't tried one on XO-4 android, but have used one successfully on another android device. paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing another early Android build for XO-4
Hi I could not find Settings, Developer options but I did find Settings, System, Accessibility, Magnification gestures which by default is off. Turning it on enabled pan and zoom. Not sure but it seems that you need to tripletap first and then pan and zoom are available, pan seems to require two fingers. Works in home screen and browser. Tony On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 08:31:01AM -0400, Paul Fox wrote: in addition, if it's available on the XO-4, there's a developer-support feature that will highlight all the touches on the screen with little rings, tracking each finger as it moves. don't recall what it's called in the developer menu, but it was pretty obvious at the time. Settings, Developer options, Input, Show touches. It correctly shows one, two, or three touches. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Multi-touch [ Devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 6]
Additional speculation: testers may be also using the wrong gestures for this version of Android. On my Galaxy S3 smartphone, I do not need to triple tap to enable zoom and I can pan with one finger rather than two. These two speculations aside, the zooming seems unresponsive at times, even when I am careful not to cross on X or Y Tony Speculation: some of the tests fail because a tester is using gestures that have worked on a conventional touchscreen. The XO-4 has a tilted XY infrared touchscreen, and so certain gestures become ambiguous when the fingers cross on XY coordinates. If so, and the functions can be discovered, then a naive learner will rapidly figure out gestures which work reliably. The learned gestures will also work on a conventional touchscreen. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re:Multi-touch [ Devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 6]
Actually zoom, pinch, triple tap etc all work without turning magnification gestures on. Not for me. No zooming until I turn on magnification gestures and triple tap. I am testing on the home screen and browser. I cannot start google maps because I have the 8686 wifi module. Maybe you are testing on google maps and it behaves differently. Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Multi-touch [ Devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 6]
Me: SHC23800033 Q7B37 I can't run or easily install most apps because of the unsupported wifi module Tony Actually zoom, pinch, triple tap etc all work without turning magnification gestures on. Not for me. No zooming until I turn on magnification gestures and triple tap. I am testing on the home screen and browser. I cannot start google maps because I have the 8686 wifi module. Maybe you are testing on google maps and it behaves differently. I'm using the latest software and firmware version but works in Browser and browser-based apps (mail clients, news-readers etc) as well as Gallery and Adobe Acrobat. Skype is the only one that does not respond but I'm not sure if it should Maybe is a hardware difference. I have SHC31100017 Tony _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing another early Android build for XO-4
Thanks With 8686 wifi module, improved but still faulty. On initial boot, when it gets to wifi, cycles DLINK connecting, DLINK not in range. Later, when trying to turn on wifi, the slider to enable wifi is toggling between off and on status on about one second cycle. (DLINK is wifi point name). Tony An Android 4.3.1 (Jelly Bean) build for the XO-4 laptop. OLPC is preparing an Android, Sugar and Gnome dual-boot system for the XO-4. Our next development release of a dual boot build is available, with the following changes: - include Google services, - enable screen shot key combination, (press power, then X game key, hold both for a second, release), - camera preview and shot works, - software codecs fixed, The build is based on our arm-3.5 kernel, with changes which can be found in the arm-3.5-android branch of our olpc-kernel repository. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Android http://build.laptop.org/android/2014-04-07/ Note: the .zd file has the same name as previous releases. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing another early Android build for XO-4
mv8686 Thanks for testing. Which wireless card model? To find out, in Open Firmware, type: ok select /wlan:force unselect ok dev /wlan dev .. .properties dend The module-type will be mv8686 or mv8787. References: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware/Identifying_Wireless_LAN_Device -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Announcing another early Android build for XO-4
Hi I can't turn on the wifi in Android Sku292 Tony An Android 4.3.1 (Jelly Bean) build for the XO-4 laptop. OLPC is preparing an Android, Sugar and Gnome dual-boot system for the XO-4. Our next development release of a dual boot build is available. The build is based on our arm-3.5 kernel, with changes which can be found in the arm-3.5-android branch of our olpc-kernel repository. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Android http://build.laptop.org/android/2014-02-26/ -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: build an activity
2 more: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_tutorial http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_activity All conflicts must be eliminated. Let's hunt them down and edit them out of existence. On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 06:09:04PM -0500, Chris Leonard wrote: Many would tend to refer to refer you to http://www.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/ On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Tim Moody t...@timmoody.com wrote: There seem to be quite a few wiki pages on doing this and they sometimes conflict. What is the definitive page on building an activity and defining a bundle? Tim ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: editing a clone
Sameer In Terminal type gedit navigate to home/olpc/Activities/[laptopname]copy_of_Clock.activity edit the source note in Sugar 0.100 you have the permissions to access the Activities directory, in some old Sugars and maybe future Sugars you do not chmod 777 Activities sets read and write permissions Tony I installed Gonzalo's build for Sugar 0.100 on a XO-4 Touch. It runs quite well. I was checking out the source on the Clock activity, and sure enough view source shows the HTML and JavaScript source. I managed to create a copy of the activity to work with, but I'm unclear as to how I would edit/change this. The View Source action leads to a window with the source, but it's uneditable there. Any pointers? cheers, Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.2.0 development build 3 released
Hi olpc-update 13.2.0d_xo4-3 contents manifest failure at line453 it tries 3 times then fails Tony Hi, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.2.0 http://build.laptop.org/13.2.0/os3 Another XO-4 bad touchscreen/mouse input interaction was fixed (#12640). XO-4 cursor corruption after suspend should be fixed (#12556). An occasional XO-4 8787 wireless failure after wake-on-LAN should be fixed (#12573). Some 8787 command queueing bugs were fixed, fixing some occasional warnings on suspend (#12442). A libdconf crash preventing various things from working on XO-1 is fixed (#12639). XO-1.75 and XO-4 now longer present a harmless kernel panic at the final stage of power-down (#11785, #12100). XO-1.75 audio with the latest firmware is working again (#12637). wacom module is now included (#12642). Scratch updated to v24; fixes a failure to launch in previous builds. Latest packages including minor NetworkManager and gstreamer-1.0 updates. Thanks for testing! Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 13.2.0 development build 3 released
updating build2 to build3 [olpc@xo-92-f0-ca ~]$ sudo olpc-update 13.2.0d_xo4-3 Downloading contents of build 13.2.0d_xo4-3. Updating to version hash 41492c63f1bb3013b6b8582ac26057ad Trying irsync_pristine update from rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-13.2.0d_xo4-3 - Fetching contents. - Performing incremental rsync. - Cleaning up (trac #5051) Verifying update. Contents manifest failure at line 453 Last file examined: ping Trying irsync_dirty update from rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-13.2.0d_xo4-3 - Creating contents for existing tree. - Fetching contents. - Performing incremental rsync. - Cleaning up (trac #5051) Verifying update. Contents manifest failure at line 453 Last file examined: ping Trying rsync update from rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-13.2.0d_xo4-3 - Fetching contents. - Performing full rsync. - Cleaning up (trac #5051) Verifying update. Contents manifest failure at line 453 Last file examined: ping No more update methods to try. [olpc@xo-92-f0-ca ~]$ On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:10 AM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi olpc-update 13.2.0d_xo4-3 contents manifest failure at line453 Please share the full error message, and let us know which build you are updating from. Daniel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: on screen keyboard
Sound like http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4069 Tony On os36 in the 13.1 series on a XO4, when the XO is in the tablet mode, the on screen keyboard shows for login fields in Browse, but not for password fields. Tried with gmail, facebook and identi.ca Sameer On os36 in the 13.1 series on a XO4, when the XO is in the tablet mode, the on screen keyboard shows for login fields in Browse, but not for password fields. Tried with gmail, facebook and a href=http://identi.ca;identi.ca/abr clear=all divbr/divdivSameer/div ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
XO-4 not resuming after suspend
I have an XO-4 B1, OFW Q7B14, EC Firmware 0.3.10, os28. It won't resume after suspend, but sometimes it does. I couldn't reproduce the bug, but it happens most of the time. ... Anyone else seeing this? For me, OS28 XO-4 doesnt seem to be going into suspend, mostly. It did suspend once and when it resumed it did not load the cursor, just a square of noise like a QR code, a bug we had in the early XO-4 builds. It seems suspend has regressed from OS27. Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Olpc-indonesia] Information Requirement on OLPC laptop
Hi Who at OLPC should Danang talk to re purchase of XO laptops? Tony Hi Tony, Thanks for your reply. Do you have any contacts in OLPC USA that can help me with the purchase requirements? Well the second hand units seems to be in a good price, but I think it would be difficult to buy 100 XO laptops from Ebay.. Best Regards, Kleopas Danang On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:33 AM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Hi Danang You can buy XO laptops from OLPC in USA. They prefer to sell large quantities and deal at the government level. I am not sure what their minimum order is but its something in the order of 1,000 units. The cost is approximately US$200 each. There are some second hand units on Ebay around $100. For the Timor Leste deployment we bought 25 units through OLPC Australia, laptop.org.au, because the units were shipped via Australia they were a little more expensive, A$250 each. Tony Dear OLPC Indonesia, My name is Danang from Jakarta, Indonesia. I am a public relations consultant for an American firm based in Jakarta. I am currently handling an international airline operating to Jakarta that wish to conduct a CSR program by providing XO ($100) laptop to children in Jakarta. Through this e-mail, I am wondering whether the laptop are sold in Indonesia? otherwise maybe you can help me with some information if we want to buy the laptop and bring them to Indonesia? Your prompt reply are much appreciated. Thank you and best, Kleopas Danang Dear OLPC Indonesia,brbrbrMy name is Danang from Jakarta, Indonesia. I am a public relations consultant for an American firm based in Jakarta. I am currently handling an international airline operating to Jakarta that wish to conduct a CSR program by providing XO ($100) laptop to children in Jakarta. br brThrough this e-mail, I am wondering whether the laptop are sold in Indonesia? otherwise maybe you can help me with some information if we want to buy the laptop and bring them to Indonesia?brbr clear=allYour prompt reply are much appreciated.br brThank you and best,brbrbrKleopas Danangbr ___ Olpc-indonesia mailing list olpc-indone...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-indonesia -- Kleopas Danang Bintoro Yakti _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning Hi Tony,brbrThanks for your reply. brbrDo you have any contacts in OLPC USA that can help me with the purchase requirements? brWell the second hand units seems to be in a good price, but I think it would be difficult to buy 100 XO laptops from Ebay.. br brBest Regards,brbrbrKleopas Danangbrbrbrdiv class=gmail_quoteOn Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:33 AM, span dir=ltra href=mailto:fors...@ozonline.com.au; target=_blankfors...@ozonline.com.au/a/span wrote:br blockquote class=gmail_quote style=margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1exHi Danangbr br You can buy XO laptops from OLPC in USA. They prefer to sell large quantities and deal at the government level. I am not sure what their minimum order is but its something in the order of 1,000 units. The cost is approximately US$200 each.br br There are some second hand units on Ebay around $100.br br For the Timor Leste deployment we bought 25 units through OLPC Australia, a href=http://laptop.org.au; target=_blanklaptop.org.au/a, because the units were shipped via Australia they were a little more expensive, A$250 each.br br Tonybr divdiv class=h5br Dear OLPC Indonesia,br br br My name is Danang from Jakarta, Indonesia. I am a public relationsbr consultant for an American firm based in Jakarta. I am currently handlingbr an international airline operating to Jakarta that wish to conduct a CSRbr program by providing XO ($100) laptop to children in Jakarta.br br Through this e-mail, I am wondering whether the laptop are sold inbr Indonesia? otherwise maybe you can help me with some information if we wantbr to buy the laptop and bring them to Indonesia?br br Your prompt reply are much appreciated.br br Thank you and best,br br br Kleopas Danangbr /div/div Dear OLPC Indonesia,brbrbrMy name is Danang from Jakarta, Indonesia. I am a public relations consultant for an American firm based in Jakarta. I am currently handling an international airline operating to Jakarta that wish to conduct a CSR program by providing XO ($100) laptop to children in Jakarta. brbr brThrough this e-mail, I am wondering whether the laptop are sold in Indonesia? otherwise maybe you can help me with some information if we want to buy the laptop and bring them to Indonesia?brbr clear=allYour prompt reply are much appreciated.brbr brThank you and
Re: Re: 13.1.0 release candidate 4 (build 24) released
Also, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_4_Touch_Testing#Reprogramming_the_Neonode_Firmware is where we are keeping the documentation on this at the moment. I have added a brief note and link to this at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.1.0#XO-4 Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 build 25 released for XO-4
Thanks I can't olpc-update, maybe I am using the wrong syntax Tony Hi, Due to time reasons, and the fact that only one XO-4-specific change is involved, build 25 is a quick XO-4 only release. http://download.laptop.org/xo-4/os/candidate/13.1.0-25/xo-4/ The only change is a significant stability fix for suspend/resume on XO-4 systems that run at 1GHz. Your XO-4 runs at 1GHz if it is a B model, but not if it is a C1 (those run at 1.2GHz). Thanks for testing! Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 build 25 released for XO-4
Hi Still unable to olpc-update Tony $ sudo olpc-update 13.1.0c_xo4-25 Downloading contents of build 13.1.0c_xo4-25. @ERROR: unknown module 'build-13.1.0c_xo4-25': None rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1516) [Receiver=3.0.9] Could not download update contents file from: rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-13.1.0c_xo4-25/contents I don't think the requested build number exists. Hi, Due to time reasons, and the fact that only one XO-4-specific change is involved, build 25 is a quick XO-4 only release. http://download.laptop.org/xo-4/os/candidate/13.1.0-25/xo-4/ The only change is a significant stability fix for suspend/resume on XO-4 systems that run at 1GHz. Your XO-4 runs at 1GHz if it is a B model, but not if it is a C1 (those run at 1.2GHz). Thanks for testing! Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [support-gang] Off-topic (sorta) Need help opening Raspberry pi case
some Pi ideas
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plastic case I got for it. Ed and I have both tried toopen it with no luck.
We don't want to break it. If anyone on these lists has one, can you tell us
the secret?
Thanks!
Caryl
P.S. Has anyone tried to run Sugar on the Raspberry pi?
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Re: Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
USB flash drive On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 06:08:26PM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: I repeated these tests Thanks! XO-1.75 and XO-4 OS14 Huawei E160E modem Imation 8GB memory stick Is this actually a Memory Stick or do you mean a USB flash drive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick Ajay said pen-drive, and I took that to mean a USB flash drive. I was unable to replicate the fault described by Ajay, the modem appeared in the frame, both plugged in after boot and before boot but for both laptops In the first test, memory stick and modem plugged in after boot, the frame never got past displaying connecting, even though I could browse the net ok Yes, this is SL #4255. In the second test, memory stick and modem plugged in before boot, I got to the connected display in the frame but the upload and download kB counters never updated past 0 even though I was browsing, the connected time did update ok. Interesting, thanks. Updated SL #4255. I've never seen data counters in 13.1.0 builds. I did not try without the memory stick. I think your tests show that Ajay's problem is likely to be unique to the pen-drive in use. Thanks for that. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
Hi James, I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if power managament was enabled, The frame does work with the Power Management option unchecked. What does the frame icon for the modem mean? see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Gsm_share_state0.png which shows the icon for the modem being clicked ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
I repeated these tests XO-1.75 and XO-4 OS14 Huawei E160E modem Imation 8GB memory stick I was unable to replicate the fault described by Ajay, the modem appeared in the frame, both plugged in after boot and before boot but for both laptops In the first test, memory stick and modem plugged in after boot, the frame never got past displaying connecting, even though I could browse the net ok In the second test, memory stick and modem plugged in before boot, I got to the connected display in the frame but the upload and download kB counters never updated past 0 even though I was browsing, the connected time did update ok. I did not try without the memory stick. Tony I downloaded 13.1.0 os14 for XO-1.75 and tested for your problem about ten times, and it never happened. I don't know if there was a fix, or if your USB flash drive is somehow unique. I suggest you try testing os14, or dig deeper into why cdc_ether is not starting. On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:44:33PM +0530, Ajay Garg wrote: I just compared the case_*_messages files, and it seems that the reason of the modem not being listed/detected/appearing in case 1, is because the cdc_ether driver doesn't start upon boot. On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:31 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: That's very interesting. So it is the pen drive causing the problem. Does a pen drive of a different manufacturer also cause the problem? (I see a similar problem on XO-4 B1 with 13.1.0 os12, ... if any pen drive is attached the modem is detected by the kernel, not shown by frame, and not shown by nmcli dev, but as I know the USB host has power design problems, I'm not sure how reliable this fact is.) #12340 -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ Regards, Ajay Garg Dextrose Developer Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT ISSUE] 3G-Modem not being recognised
Ajay You do not say which OS you are using or whether its Sugar or Gnome desktop. For most of 13.1.0 the modem dongle has not been appearing in the Sugar frame. It was fixed at OS11 I think but I have not tested it a lot to see if its always there in the frame. Tony I have heard from other people who have faced issues that may be similar at root. I suggest that you deepen your investigation to determine the reaction of the kernel, and the ModemManager process, to the insertion of the device. Compare the reactions between working and non-working scenarios. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:03:49PM +0530, Ajay Garg wrote: Hi all. I have been facing transient issues in getting the 3G-Modem recognised (via the appearence of the corresponding icon in the bottom-tray). There really is no fixed pattern; sometimes the icon appears when the modem is inserted; sometimes not. Same is the case when the XO is rebooted, while the modem is inserted. Upon booting, sometimes the icon appears; sometimes not. I don't remember such issues in 12.1.0; there, the icon appeared whenever it ought to. Is someone else too facing such transient issues; or am I the only one hit? Regards, Ajay Garg Dextrose Developer Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
Hi I did olpc-update on XO-4 and now it boots to the OFW OK prompt Tony A new 13.1.0 development build is available. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0 http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os12 Changes: - Recent XO-4 suspend/resume work and misc fixes - yum doesn't complain about GPG keys any more (#12164) - GNOME shuts down quickly again (#12210) - XO-4 should reliably make all disk space available now (#12150) - etoys usage of gzip --rsyncable should be fixed (#12223) - A couple of activity updates Build 13 might also be quietly published tonight, for XO-4 only, just with one change: some kernel fixes aimed at helping our team who are currently at the factory preparing the C1 prototype build. Thanks for any testing and feedback! Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
Hi Further information on the failed olpc-update booting holding tick game key trying last boot\4.zip trying last boot\44.zip trying last boot\run444.zip ok A new 13.1.0 development build is available. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0 http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os12 Changes: - Recent XO-4 suspend/resume work and misc fixes - yum doesn't complain about GPG keys any more (#12164) - GNOME shuts down quickly again (#12210) - XO-4 should reliably make all disk space available now (#12150) - etoys usage of gzip --rsyncable should be fixed (#12223) - A couple of activity updates Build 13 might also be quietly published tonight, for XO-4 only, just with one change: some kernel fixes aimed at helping our team who are currently at the factory preparing the C1 prototype build. Thanks for any testing and feedback! Daniel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
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Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
John I think the problem is that olpc-update does not update the firmware, all updates have been with 2 sources of power, so the lesson is to occasionally do the full reflash (which uses a lot of bandwidth) or manually update the OFW Tony More importantly, occasionally boot with two sources of power (battery and DC). Q7B01 should have been replaced automatically a number of builds ago. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
So am I right in saying that olpc-update does not update OFW or is this the result of some temporary disabling? I edited http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0#Online_upgrade with a note that may not be correct. As I understand it, the auto-firmware reflash process was temporarily disabled to avoid an issue with XO-4 A2 prototypes. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 12 released
Thanks Can you please fix my edit to the wiki I am totally confused, all I know is that all my olpc-updates have been with 2 power sources and I don't remember ever seeing it do a OFW upgrade Not exactly wrong, but incomplete. olpc-update will potentially change /bootpart/boot/bootfw*.zip and as a consequence Open Firmware or olpc.fth may reflash to a later version of Open Firmware. I think you might change your wording on the Wiki page. There's also more than one firmware. There's Open Firmware, the touchscreen firmware, the embedded controller firmware, and the wireless firmware. ;-} On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:11:06AM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: So am I right in saying that olpc-update does not update OFW or is this the result of some temporary disabling? I edited http://wiki.laptop.org/go/13.1.0#Online_upgrade with a note that may not be correct. As I understand it, the auto-firmware reflash process was temporarily disabled to avoid an issue with XO-4 A2 prototypes. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: software update after olpc-update
sounds like http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12272 Updated an XO-1 and an XO-1.75 from os7 to os9 and would appear that the first reboot software update still has some issues. When the process is initiated as prompted at the 1st boot post-update, the progress bar stops after the first or second activity, and looks like froze though the process continues in the background. When after some time you click the OK button the control panel exits to a bank screen that has the home screen toolbar but no home screen icons. This behavior appears specific to the olpc-update process, as invoking software update at a later point behaves normally. The only problem software update has is that you can *not* omit any updates (there is no good reason for example to be forced to have both wikipediaEN and wikipediaES at 100MB each). Though I guess this is a Sugar issue. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Multi-touch test activity
See also http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12161 Tony Hi folks, I made a simple Sugar activity to test the XO-4's multi-touch screen: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4611/ It works fine most of the time. Sometimes the touch contact ends unexpectedly without lifting the finger. It also demonstrates that the Neonode sensor's two touch points are not independent: If you put down two fingers simultaneously, it does not know in which of the 4 possible positions the two fingers are (it only knows that 2 horizontal and 2 vertical beams got obstructed) and so it has to guess. Also, the tracking sometimes switches over, e.g. when doing a pinch-zoom using your right hand. For activity developers this means that pinch/zoom and rotation gestures will work fine, but we cannot rely on truly independent touch tracking. Also, two-finger sweeps are not always recognized as two fingers if they are held close together. Nonetheless, it is fun to play with if you happen to have an XO-4 Touch :) Source code: http://git.sugarlabs.org/testmultitouch/mainline Patches welcome, but I want to keep the source simple, this is not going to become another Paint activity. - Bert - PS: Could some admin please delete the accidental non-mainline repo in http://git.sugarlabs.org/testmultitouch/ ? Keep mainline, remove testmultitouch. Thanks. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Using the touchscreen
Hi I have an Activity which has: self.textview = gtk.TextView() self.textview.connect(key_press_event, self.keypress_cb) I am only getting key_press_event from the OSK from enter and backspace I only open the OSK when clicking in the textview if I have first clicked on the Activity title. How should I use the OSK? thanks Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Installing patch on XO-4
Hi I tried installing patch on a XO-4, sudo yum install patch I got a checksum error so I deleted /var/cache/yum/armhfp/18/fedora/packages/patch-2.6.1-13.fc18.armv7hl.rpm and tried again, it still fails Any suggestions? thanks Tony Total download size: 94 k Installed size: 174 k Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: warning: /var/cache/yum/armhfp/18/fedora/packages/patch-2.6.1-13.fc18.armv7hl.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID a4d647e9: NOKEY Public key for patch-2.6.1-13.fc18.armv7hl.rpm is not installed patch-2.6.1-13.fc18.armv7hl.rpm| 94 kB 00:04 Retrieving key from file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-armhfp Invalid GPG Key from file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-armhfp: bad checksum on pgp message ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Installing patch on XO-4
thanks Chris, Jerry James for your quick replies Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Regarding temporary ''pauses'', perhaps due to using an SD card with an XO
I too have noticed pauses on my 1.5 and they are worse than they used to be. The mouse cursor is still active during the pause. Tony I too have observed increasingly often pauses on my XO but have had no idea how or where to start to debug the problem. One thought I had is that the swap file on the SD card is the source of the problem (somehow) but I still have the pernicious/persistent hanging even without using the swapfile. I'll try with a brand new 16GB SD card to see if that helps. --Chris On 10/13/12, Mikus Grinbergs mi...@bga.com wrote: Lately there has been discussion about using an SD card to expand the storage capability of the XO. [For instance, discussion of when an XO functions as a server, having it keep its database on an SD card.] What I want to mention is that I experience occasional pauses on my XO systems (each has a permanent SD card, on which I keep Activities, Linux executables, etc.). I do not know what causes these pauses, but my best guess is the following (particularly since pauses often occur during a CLI command that is massively accessing the SD card). My guess: SD cards have an embedded chip which is responsible for wear levelling the electronic components used to keep the data. It does this by internally 'rearranging' which data block is physically kept where. I think this 'rearranging' action by the embedded chip gets launched (when some 'internal' SD card thresholds are met) during an I/O access by the (XO) host -- and this rearranging results in that host's I/O access being DELAYED until the embedded chip is done. I have not compared the performance (from the user's point of view) of running an Activity from the SD card vs. running it from the XO. But I do have the impression that the duration of the occasional pauses which I as a user notice while running with the SD card have gotten LONGER as my XOs have migrated to using ever-larger SD cards. mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 13.1.0 build 6 released
Hi Build 6 touchscreen has regressed wrt build 5. The touchscreen responds to clicks but not drags in F1, F2 and F3 screens. The new cursor position after the click only updates after the touchpad is used. Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Testing XO-4
Hi Tony, 12/10/2012 fors...@ozonline.com.au: The only time I have seen the keyboard is for Gnome Clock add location It works OK there I refer to the on-screen keyboard which appears by clicking a button in the frame. Thanks, I hadn't noticed that one. No mine doesnt seem to do anything Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Testing XO-4
Hi -The activities most integrated activities with the touch screen for my viewpoint are TurtleArt, Phisics and Calculate. Dimensions (Visual Match) works well too -[Critical] On screen keyboard doesn't work. I press the keys and nothing happens. The only time I have seen the keyboard is for Gnome Clock add location It works OK there - [Critical] The light which indicates the computer is turned on doesn't shine. Its working for me. Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 13.1.0 development build 2 released
Ticket #3908 (closed defect: notsugar) On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:51:25PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: Besides the Control Panel issues (missing or unwrapped text/Switch to GNOME crashes Sugar/etc.) ... That came up on #olpc the other day, is there a ticket for it? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Impossible to set date in 11.3.0?
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Sat, 2012-08-25 at 18:25 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: File a ticket and someone may jump in to tackle it. -walter see http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11004 Thx. That covers part of the issue, but not the Sugar control panel part. OK, now there is Sugarlabs #3829 as well Tony -walter On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:26 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: Surely we can distinguish secured from unsecured laptops and allow unsecured laptops to set the date? Sure. Nobody's done the UI work for that, Sugar-side. - In all builds, hwclock is available from cli - On 11.3.x and earler builds you can install the appropriate gnome control panel. - On 12.x.y builds, gnome control panels aren't so easy to make work, 'cause they need clutter. Also, we should run ntp by default, or at least ntpdate on an NM hook. We do that in Australia builds, need nptdate to be added to the image, setup /etc/sysconfig/ntpdate and the NM hook. # toggle setting the rtc sed -i -e s/SYNC_HWCLOCK=no/SYNC_HWCLOCK=yes/ /etc/sysconfig/ntpdate # call ntpdate when connected cat EOF /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/10-ntpdate #!/bin/sh if [ \$2 = up ]; then if [ ! -e /tmp/ntpdate ]; then touch /tmp/ntpdate /sbin/service ntpdate restart || : fi fi EOF chmod 755 /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/10-ntpdate Jerry -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage
We should test the calibration again. Walter, Guzman Testing with TA140 It looks like the 1.75 audio circuit was changed between the preproduction and the ramp unit 1.75's Testing on SKU199 and SKU204, the impedance has gone from 1k to 4k and the calibration is all wrong on 204 (TA calibration should be OK for the moment on preproduction SKU199) Can laptop.org please confirm that there was an audio redesign between SKU199 and SKU204? Is the SKU204 design now stable or can we expect further changes? Is the input protection the same as the 1.5: The XO-1.5 is protected by a resistor,(1/16W 470 ohm SMD0402) and a pair of diodes to ground and to +3.3V which should protect -6V to +9V continuously, and up to higher voltages for shorter periods of time. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors#Specifications Thanks Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage
Testing on SKU199 and SKU204, the impedance has gone from 1k to 4k and the calibration is all wrong on 204 Possibility of damage? How are you measuring this, so that I can reproduce on units that I believe are undamaged? Are you measuring DC impedance with laptop power off, or on? With the microphone bias off or on? With the DC mode off or on? Thanks James Testing is with Turtle Art V140, ie I am letting TA do the ALSA stuff, setting up bias, gain etc The turtle code is forever print voltage To check voltage calibration for +ve voltages and measure impedance I use the existing bias (however the turtle code and ALSA have set that up) and a variable resistor on the mic input. I estimate input impedance by setting the variable resistor that results in half voltage (1.5V) as measured with a multimeter. I check voltage calibration by measuring V across the variable resistor with the multimeter. I can see a possible error in my method, SKU204 OS12 may be changing the bias conditions briefly during the measurement. This does not have any effect however on the calibration for 0V which is changed - in this case the source impedance is zero. If the kernel is running, are you measuring with the same kernel? Quite possibly not. SKU199 is running OS32 and SKU204 is running OS12 which I think has kernel version issues. I updated OS12 with olpc-update, I presume that does the kernel too. There are some differences against 1.5, in that there are two channels, on the tip and ring of the connector respectively. Please make sure you are using a stereo plug with correct manufacturing tolerances. Test for shorting between the left and right channel pins after the plug is inserted. I thought the 1.5 was stereo too? Just the XO-1 mono? I am not getting channel shorting, different results on the 2 channels. After the socket, there is a 470 ohm series resistor on each channel. After that, reverse diodes to ground and +3.3. Thanks for confirming Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Re: Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage
Thanks The turtle code is forever print voltage Could you please explain how to do this? I've not used Turtle Art, so don't presume any foreknowledge. look at the blocks submenu, the 4th item from the left in the main menu look at the 'flow operators' pallette the 5th item in the submenu, icon is circular arrows drag 'forever' onto the canvas from the extras pallette, 9th in the submenu, icon is cog drag 'print' and dock it under the RHS of forever from the sensors pallette, 7th in the submenu, icon is plug drag 'voltage' and dock it to the right of print click on the forever block to run (I have just discovered a bug in the stereo channel selection, sometimes the left channel is voltage and the right voltage1, sometimes they swap) Or, could you use alsactl store in the test state, and provide the file it generates. I can then use it on alsactl restore and be sure of the same ALSA mixer configuration. is alsactl store fails, cannot open /etc/asound/state for writing: permission denied Okay, please compare with identical kernels. There has been a bit of change in the audio driver. Use uname -a to check the kernel revision. How do I interpret the output? Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Re: Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage
James I think I have eliminated software differences. Both laptops reflashed to OS8 (12.1.0) Turtle Blocks V141 ( a new version is just released) Phono plug with left-right-ground all shorted forever print voltage displays: 0VSKU199 -1.3V SKU204 Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Turtle Art sensor xo 1.75 range voltage
Wad, thanks, Tony On Jun 1, 2012, at 9:24 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: We should test the calibration again. Walter, Guzman Testing with TA140 It looks like the 1.75 audio circuit was changed between the preproduction and the ramp unit 1.75's Testing on SKU199 and SKU204, the impedance has gone from 1k to 4k and the calibration is all wrong on 204 (TA calibration should be OK for the moment on preproduction SKU199) Can laptop.org please confirm that there was an audio redesign between SKU199 and SKU204? Is the SKU204 design now stable or can we expect further changes? Yes, there was a redesign which increased the resistance between the Mic voltage source and the mic jack from roughly 1K to roughly 3K for improved microphone performance.All production XO-1.75s use the SKU204 circuitry. Is the input protection the same as the 1.5: The XO-1.5 is protected by a resistor,(1/16W 470 ohm SMD0402) and a pair of diodes to ground and to +3.3V which should protect -6V to +9V continuously, and up to higher voltages for shorter periods of time. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors#Specifications Yes, the protection circuitry is the same as used on 1.5. Chers, wad _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Browse crashes - os11 running on XO 1.75
Hi
Which XO hardware?
Which version OS?
What error message in Log?
I am aware of 3 faults on the 1.75
Segmentation fault - (I believe there is a fix coming)
or
raise TypeError('Cannot create a consistent method resolution '
TypeError: Cannot create a consistent method resolution order (MRO)
Ticket #3503
or
nonetype object has no attribute set_invoker.
Ticket #3503
The XO-1 and XO-1.5
fail
*** glibc detected *** python: corrupted double-linked list: 0x09a33f20 ***
Ticket #2431
Tony
Browse crashes very easily. For example opening http://html5test.com crashes
Browse.
(By the way Browse does get a nice score on the test).
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Re: Re: Downgrading XO-1.75
Thanks James It works Tony Ah, yes, known issue, it won't boot, because of a device-tree related change. The kernel for 11.3.0 won't know about it, and likely won't start. Please try this: - ensure 11.3.0 is installed, - get to the ok prompt and type false to use-fdt? boot - observe the boot process. If it boots fine, edit /bootpart/boot/olpc.fth add false to use-fdt? after the first line of the file. That should remove the need to use the command on every boot. If you don't get it working with this, we should next look at a serial console boot log. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Downgrading XO-1.75
Hi Are there any known issues downgrading XO-1.75 from Sugar 12.1.0 to 11.3.0 OS883? I tried 2 laptops and 2 OS's (OS883 and OS42) and they fail on the first boot dot. I was able to flash back to 12.1.0 OS8 OK OFW for one after flashing back to 12.1.0 OS8 is Q4D13 for the other Q4D09 before successful flashing and Q4D10 after I am presuming the images I am using are not corrupted because I have used them before. Sorry if I am doing something stupid. Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: os-9 testing
Tested the os9 build for a few basic tests, reports below: ... ? Pippy ? warnings in the terminal console before any example related text appears (annoying) ... See http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3492 Pippy -import pippy produces warnings Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 12.1.0 devel build 9 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
Thanks olpc-update appears to be OK, downloading now, it presumably needs less download. sudo olpc-update 12.1.0d_xo1.75-9 sudo olpc-update 12.1.0d_xo1.5-9 sudo olpc-update 12.1.0d_xo1-9 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/12.1.0#Online_upgrade Tony The Yes yes lets try that again..without the oops release. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE Fixed bugs: #11806Browse: step scroll with the XO arrow keys in hand-held mode #11766systemd doesn't remount / RO on shutdown #11815GNOME acts on power button and lid #11819sisusb support broken on 12.1.0/os8 #11714GNOME fails to start if the system time is off #11795Epiphany icons do not display #1179212.1.0 builds need USB Wedo rule #1179812.1.0, os8; touchpad does not rotate with screen #11286powerd should not suspend on open external serial devices #11610Time rollback disables powerd's power button control #11740powerd: usb-inhibits broken #11807powerd: convert xo-1 usage of /sys/power/wlan-enabled to rfkill #11808powerd: keyboard wakeups can't be disabled #11791Scratch plugins on 12.1.0 on XO-1.75 are x86 again #11672Remove Extreme Power Management control panel option Activity changes: -Abacus-32 -Browse-135 +Abacus-34 +Browse-136 -Chat-75 +Chat-76 -Distance-28 +Distance-31 -FotoToon-11 +FotoToon-12 -HelloWorld-5 +HelloWorld-6 -TamTamEdit-62 -TamTamJam-62 -TamTamMini-62 -TamTamSynthLab-62 +TamTamEdit-63 +TamTamJam-63 +TamTamMini-63 +TamTamSynthLab-63 -Words-15 +Words-16 Download from: http://build.laptop.org/12.1.0/os9/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 12.1.0 devel build 8 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5 and XO-1.75
Is sudo olpc-update possible? If so, what is the syntax? Thanks Tony The I know you can be overwhelmed, and you can be underwhelmed, but can you ever just be whelmed? release. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE Some notable details in this release are: * Move back to jffs to XO-1 * May be issues with WPA-Enterprise networks (F-17 final blocker): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802552 Fixed bugs: #11750Flickering in Browse/epiphany in os5 #11782Sometimes two icons are shown in the frame for the network #11721No frame key or Journal key on os5 #11710os4: hostname is none #11404support absolute input devices #11778libertas_sdio isn't allowed to communicate with card during suspend #11722No touchscreen input on XO-1.75 #1174612.1.0 XO-1; kernel support for SDcards #11714GNOME fails to start if the system time is off #11735oprofile, perf available for/in build #10075long uptime with constant wakeups fills /var/log and crashes machine Activity changes: -Browse-133 +Browse-135 -Chat-74 +Chat-75 -ImageViewer-19 +ImageViewer-20 -Maze-16 +Maze-18 -Memorize-39 +Memorize-41 -Paint-41 +Paint-42 -Read-98 +Read-99 -Speak-37 +Speak-38 -TurtleArt-137 +TurtleArt-138 -Words-14 +Words-15 Download from: http://build.laptop.org/12.1.0/os8/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [support-gang] XO brightness key operation
nicholas wrote: Is there a way to read the current value of the 1.75's ambient light sensor? It'd be neat if that could be displayed by an activity. there is. turtleart can do this, i believe. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Light_Sensor#Programming see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art#Device_I.2FO ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [support-gang] XO brightness key operation
Is there a way to read the current value of the 1.75's ambient light sensor? It'd be neat if that could be displayed by an activity. Yes its documented at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art#Device_I.2FO what you want I think is /sys/devices/platform/olpc-ols.0/level Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 1.75 c2 testing
Thanks That was with OS21 as supplied Now testing with update to OS31 Tony Has you updated the image installed? If not, please update it and test again. Gonzalo On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:36 AM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: I received 2 1.75's today, SKU203 and SKU204, thanks. The SKU203 with the 'improved' membrane keyboard has trackpad problems. The pressure required seems to vary, sometimes a light touch works, other times it needs a very heavy touch. I'll give myself time to get used to the improved membrane keyboard but the initial impression is that the membrane keyboard is too deep below the white facia. Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning Has you updated the image installed?divIf not, please update it and test again./divdivbr/divdivGonzalo/divdivbrdiv class=gmail_quoteOn Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:36 AM, span dir=ltra href=mailto:fors...@ozonline.com.au;fors...@ozonline.com.au/a/span wrote:br blockquote class=gmail_quote style=margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1exI received 2 1.75's today, SKU203 and SKU204, thanks.br br The SKU203 with the 'improved' membrane keyboard has trackpad problems.br br The pressure required seems to vary, sometimes a light touch works, other times it needs a very heavy touch.br br I'll give myself time to get used to the improved membrane keyboard but the initial impression is that the membrane keyboard is too deep below the white facia.br br Tonybr br br ___br Devel mailing listbr a href=mailto:Devel@lists.laptop.org;Devel@lists.laptop.org/abr a href=http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel; target=_blankhttp://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel/abr /blockquote/divbr/div ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
1.75 c2 testing
I received 2 1.75's today, SKU203 and SKU204, thanks. The SKU203 with the 'improved' membrane keyboard has trackpad problems. The pressure required seems to vary, sometimes a light touch works, other times it needs a very heavy touch. I'll give myself time to get used to the improved membrane keyboard but the initial impression is that the membrane keyboard is too deep below the white facia. Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch: Mobile dongles
Paul Keeping the dongle powered also happens with automatic power management on the 1.75 (ie 15 seconds with no input). Same problem though, keyboard or trackpad input to wake up powers down the dongle. It takes 35 seconds for the dongle to appear in the frame, then user input is required, more waiting, a total time of 65 seconds to make a connection. The Huawei is rated at = 500mA or 2.5W. That is presumably a peak rating, it is slightly warm to touch, my guess 1W or a little less average. I think not worth keeping powered during power switch initiated sleep. You say the hardware control is all or none' I took that to mean all 3 USB ports, but in suspend, it has the memory stick light out but the dongle light on. (the light may respond to data as well as power). There is a case for powering the USB ports whenever a USB device is connected (automatic power management suspend not power switch initated sleep), it is impossible to know the characteristics of every USB device and whether they will recover gracefully to power interuption. If the user wanted best battery life they wouldnt leave a power hungry USB device plugged in. Tony fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Paul Tried this with a XO-1.75 and a XO-1.5 both running OS31 Tried a Huawei mobile dongle, a memory stick and a mouse The only case where a USB device remains powered during sleep is the mobile dongle on the 1.75 huh. okay, well, 1.75 is the first of the XO models that has the ability to leave the USB ports powered (and i assume they all do when the mobile dongle is used - the hardware control is all or none). i guess that driver is talking to the USB stack somehow to accomplish this. next question: is this the right behavior? if the dongle weren't power cycled during resume, i guess that might be a good thing? paul Tony fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Thanks I have noticed another issue with the mobile dongle. OS31, XO-1.75 Press the power button once and wait for sleep. The dongle remains this is very surprising. do other USB devices remain powered when the laptop sleeps? we've done nothing intentional to change this (or fix this, depending on your point of view :-) in this release. paul powered on (which is a good or bad thing depending on your point of view), then press the power button to wake the laptop, the dongle is briefly turned off and the connection is lost, negating any benefit from keeping it powered during sleep. Tony =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] Patch: Mobile dongles
Paul Tried this with a XO-1.75 and a XO-1.5 both running OS31 Tried a Huawei mobile dongle, a memory stick and a mouse The only case where a USB device remains powered during sleep is the mobile dongle on the 1.75 Tony fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Thanks I have noticed another issue with the mobile dongle. OS31, XO-1.75 Press the power button once and wait for sleep. The dongle remains this is very surprising. do other USB devices remain powered when the laptop sleeps? we've done nothing intentional to change this (or fix this, depending on your point of view :-) in this release. paul powered on (which is a good or bad thing depending on your point of view), then press the power button to wake the laptop, the dongle is briefly turned off and the connection is lost, negating any benefit from keeping it powered during sleep. Tony =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Patch: Mobile dongles
Thanks I have noticed another issue with the mobile dongle. OS31, XO-1.75 Press the power button once and wait for sleep. The dongle remains powered on (which is a good or bad thing depending on your point of view), then press the power button to wake the laptop, the dongle is briefly turned off and the connection is lost, negating any benefit from keeping it powered during sleep. Tony On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 16:44 +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: David This message was sent with a gsm dongle on an xo-1 modem:Huawei E160E carrier:Locked to Dodo (an Optus reseller) XO-1 OS31 development which is same as os884 signed in my settings, enter username, password, leave *99# unaltered, dodolns1, blank, blank turn off power management, because XO looses connection in sleep mode I have an enhancements to powerd to inhibit suspend for that issue. The attached proof of concept patch is heavy on tracing, should apply, maybe with an offset, and needs /etc/powerd/flags/modules-inhibits created containing usb_wwan. Once usb_wwan is inserted in the kernel, it remains in memory you can have NM dispatcher or pppd remove the module when the connection is torn down to restore normal power management operation. These features are in testable with au210. Sorry 4g images only, with no firmware in the image. http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/os/latest/ Jerry _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 11.3.1 development build 31 for XO-1 and XO-1.5
Updated XO1.75 29- 31 OK Xo1.5 failed [olpc@xo-e0-8d-68 /]$ sudo olpc-update 11.3.1_xo1.5-31 Downloading contents of build 11.3.1_xo1.5-31. @ERROR: unknown module 'build-11.3.1_xo1.5-31': None rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at main.c(1516) [Receiver=3.0.8] Could not download update contents file from: rsync://updates.laptop.org/build-11.3.1_xo1.5-31/contents I don't think the requested build number exists. Tony On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Martin Langhoff mar...@laptop.org wrote: Upgrade online with: �# XO-1 � olpc-update 11.3.1_xo1.5-31 �# XO-1.5 � olpc-update 11.3.1_xo1-31 That's obviously backwards :-) -- success/fail reports on this welcome, as at least one user had a failure (I believe a transient failure, not a bug). cheers, m -- �mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC �- ask interesting questions �- don't get distracted with shiny stuff� - working code first �- http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] wiki.sugarlabs has crashed
Sorry Problem was at my end Fixed it by resetting my router I have had this before, but a long time ago, for some reason Sugar and my Dlink router can mess up the DNS lookup and give the wrong IP address On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:47 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Can somebody please restart the server wiki.sugarlabs.org (I suspect I crashed it, Browse fails to download pages if you dont wave the mouse around, that resulted me leaving it with a file rename form open for 15 minutes and I suspect something timed out) Seems to be working for me... ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control
fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Thanks Paul thanks for testing! The logic appears to be buggy, see #11487: XO-1.75 OS12 backlight is off when you come back inside okay, more testing is needed. as you noted, it's quite hard to tell when it's on and off. i'll see if i can come up with an indicator, on the display or on the LEDs, which will help during debug. Its not too hard to write a TurtleArt program which continuously prints the brightness sensor and the screen brightness, there is a block for the brightness sensor and sample python code 'sensor.py' for the screen bightness As it stands, neither the monochrome nor colour modes are OK in full sunlight. The colour mode causes a significant loss of resolution for reading small black text and even more resolution loss with coloured text. to clarify -- neither of these issues is caused by the auto-turnoff, but they might suggest that one or the other modes is a better target in full sun -- is that what you're saying? The loss of resolution in full sunlight results from disabling the monochrome mode, disabled for both manual and automatic triggering in OS12 where can i find some colored text on the laptop? I am not sure what you are asking, links in webpages is one example, you can create coloured text in Write With the monochrome mode, the shadow of your hands as you type is enough to switch mode which is quite distracting the color/mono selection shouldn't have affect on how much light causes the mode switch. no it doesn't, what are you saying? The cutin cutout settings are 50 (bright)and 80 (dark). It does not seem worth raising the 80 figure because there is still visible colour information at 70. The 50 figure could be lowered, direct sunlight is 5-10, so I tried 15, this still could give mode switching from your hands' shadow in direct sunlight. how can you tell the switch has occurred, if you're in full sunlight? i honestly can't tell when it's happened. I am running a Turtleart program to interrogate the sensor and screen brightness What I suggest is that the backlight not switch off unless you have been in the sun for (eg) 5 minutes, but switch back on immediately in the dark. I don't have the coding skills or I would have tried it out. For anybody who wants to try it powerd is at /usr/sbin/power the brightness settings are at line1853 monochrome is commented out at lines 1764 1793 uncommenting these lines reenables monochrome in response to the sensor but surprisingly not the control keys i don't follow -- the code in powerd currently has (or should have) no effect on how the brightness keys work. they're handled by olpc-brightness. so they should continue doing what they were doing before you modified those lines to reenable zero brightness gives mono behavior. The brightness keys no longer give monochrome at zero brightness. You must have coded that somewhere in powerd? Line 1793 looked like it was going to be the culprit. paul Tony fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: The shift from colour to monochrome is noticable and would be annoying if it happened a lot, for example as clouds pass, trees and people move. If the hysterisis, the difference between cutin and cutout brightness is large, the change in mode will happen a lot less frequently and not be annoying. I would like to try it switching automatically to monochrome but with large hysterisis. I'll wait to try OS12 you may be in a better position to play with this, geographically speaking, than i am -- we're running low on sunlight these days. the hysteresis is currently hard-coded in powerd -- you'll find it in the function ambient_adjust_init(). it only gets set once, though, so after powerd starts, you can change the limits directly and they should take effect immediately. additionally, to cause auto-monochrome to happen, uncomment the obvious lines at the end of set_brightness() and brightness_ramp(). paul Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org
Re: 11.3.1 build 12 released for XO-1.75
OS12 Gnome mouse cursor is not reloaded on resume from sleep USB will not mount in Gnome on resume from sleep laptop trac is rejecting my logon or I would open a ticket Tony The Saturday night fever build, where audio seems to work at last, clocks make sense again, and we have some power mgmt improvements. Download from: � http://build.laptop.org/11.3.1/os12/ Bugs fixed: #11353 SD Card cannot detected in OS881 #11436 XO-1.75 runin battery discharge characterisation #11400 Date resets to 1970 each boot #11397 DCON freeze not working under X Audio related fixes -- please help us test! #11411 Audio recorded on 1.75 may switch channels or not play when output #11421 Simple alsa pcm example only plays back on one channel #11288 XO-1.75 accelerometer chip change #11296 mmap to snd-mmp2-pcm fails #11366 XO-1.75 C1 os24 runin 0.15.3p audio underrun overrun messages excessive #11454 [APP issue] Etoy app:Play SelfMode and eToy will hang-up at the first time but start again normally. . #11193 XO-1.75: Scratch Etoys freeze when playing audio Progress on: #11395 Implement Linux Suspend/Resume on MMP2 #11406 and #11412 - kernel powerd wakeup events queue work #11465 Proposed activities updates to 11.3.1: �rolled back TamTam* and Measure Kernel changelog: Andres Salomon (2): Revert add config option to allow disabling of console switch during suspend pxa168: disable VT switching when entering suspend Chris Ball (7): pxa sdhci: introduce PXA_FLAG_CARD_PERMANENT for eMMC and internal SD, use it for XO-1.75 mmc: pxa: Allow specifying caps in MMC cap syntax directly mmc: pxa: Allow specifying pm_flags in MMC syntax directly olpc-xo-1-75.c: Specify non-removable MMC in .caps as well as flags mmc: pxa: Remove unnecessary use of pxa flags, replaced by caps mmc: pxa: Add 8-bit cap directly, remove unnecessary pxa flag olpc-xo-1-75.c: Add MMC PM flags for libertas staying up over suspend Jonathan Corbet (2): ASOC mmp2-pcm: Limit period size to half the buffer size sound: do not let the start threshold exceed the buffer size (dlo#11193) Martin Langhoff (3): xo_175_defconfig: disable MMC_UNSAFE_RESUME Revert pm - put wireless chip to sleep when suspending (#2) xo-1.75 defconfig: use rtc1 for HCTOSYS at boottime (dlo#11400) Paul Fox (3): remove the ifdefed support for EC-connected keyboards add config option to allow disabling of console switch during suspend fix off-by-one error which kept d-pad-left key from causing wakeup Saadia Baloch (2): alc5631.c: Go back to a selected number of playback rates. alc5631.c: Minimum playback channels value is 2. Sven Neumann (1): cfg80211: really ignore the regulatory request --- os11/xo1.75/os11.packages.txt 2011-11-15 18:21:03.0 -0500 +++ os12/xo1.75/os12.packages.txt 2011-11-21 18:10:40.0 -0500 -kernel-3.0.0_xo1.75-2014.1639.olpc.184b135.armv7l +kernel-3.0.0_xo1.75-2018.1738.olpc.e3f6aac.armv7l -olpc-powerd-38-1.fc14.armv5tel -olpc-powerd-dbus-38-1.fc14.armv5tel -olpc-runin-tests-0.16.0-1.armv7l +olpc-powerd-39-1.fc14.armv5tel +olpc-powerd-dbus-39-1.fc14.armv5tel +olpc-runin-tests-0.16.1-1.armv7l -olpc-utils-1.3.7-1.fc14.armv5tel +olpc-utils-1.3.8-1.fc14.armv5tel --- os11/xo1.75/os11.activities.txt 2011-11-15 18:21:03.0 -0500 +++ os12/xo1.75/os12.activities.txt 2011-11-21 18:10:40.0 -0500 -Measure-34.1 +Measure-34 -TamTamEdit-60.1 -TamTamJam-60.1 -TamTamMini-60.1 +TamTamEdit-60 +TamTamJam-60 +TamTamMini-60 cheers, m -- �martin.langh...@gmail.com �mar...@laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC �- ask interesting questions �- don't get distracted with shiny stuff� - working code first �- http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] automatic backlight control
Thanks Paul The logic appears to be buggy, see #11487: XO-1.75 OS12 backlight is off when you come back inside As it stands, neither the monochrome nor colour modes are OK in full sunlight. The colour mode causes a significant loss of resolution for reading small black text and even more resolution loss with coloured text. With the monochrome mode, the shadow of your hands as you type is enough to switch mode which is quite distracting The cutin cutout settings are 50 (bright)and 80 (dark). It does not seem worth raising the 80 figure because there is still visible colour information at 70. The 50 figure could be lowered, direct sunlight is 5-10, so I tried 15, this still could give mode switching from your hands' shadow in direct sunlight. What I suggest is that the backlight not switch off unless you have been in the sun for (eg) 5 minutes, but switch back on immediately in the dark. I don't have the coding skills or I would have tried it out. For anybody who wants to try it powerd is at /usr/sbin/power the brightness settings are at line1853 monochrome is commented out at lines 1764 1793 uncommenting these lines reenables monochrome in response to the sensor but surprisingly not the control keys Tony fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: The shift from colour to monochrome is noticable and would be annoying if it happened a lot, for example as clouds pass, trees and people move. If the hysterisis, the difference between cutin and cutout brightness is large, the change in mode will happen a lot less frequently and not be annoying. I would like to try it switching automatically to monochrome but with large hysterisis. I'll wait to try OS12 you may be in a better position to play with this, geographically speaking, than i am -- we're running low on sunlight these days. the hysteresis is currently hard-coded in powerd -- you'll find it in the function ambient_adjust_init(). it only gets set once, though, so after powerd starts, you can change the limits directly and they should take effect immediately. additionally, to cause auto-monochrome to happen, uncomment the obvious lines at the end of set_brightness() and brightness_ramp(). paul Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
automatic backlight control
The shift from colour to monochrome is noticable and would be annoying if it happened a lot, for example as clouds pass, trees and people move. If the hysterisis, the difference between cutin and cutout brightness is large, the change in mode will happen a lot less frequently and not be annoying. I would like to try it switching automatically to monochrome but with large hysterisis. I'll wait to try OS12 Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Techteam] 12.1.0 devel build 1 released, for XO-1.5 and XO-1
Some XO-1's can't handle ubifs http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11094 Is there any chance this is related? Tony I dont have an XO-1 with me, but I presume if it's ubifs, the files will also be the same (i.e. os1.onu and os1.uim), adn one will use the update-nand ofw command, instead of the jffs2 copy-nand command. But, I'm presuming that. Will let you know tonight. KG No joy on the XO-1 install. After the update-nand, the machine only boots to the OFW OK prompt. Tried again with Q2E47 (the one that ships with the build), Q2E48, and Q2F05. Tried on multiple XO-1's, CSN7, SHC7, SHF8 assemblies, same symptoms. Doing a check-mark boot gives Can't open boot device message. Tried another download, another USB key, same symptoms. Now here's wherer my incredibly detailed technical analytical skills come to the fore: There seem to be a lot less of those little blue squares that come up during the install process, and they seem to come up in a different spot than they used to, compared to the previous os# ubifs developer builds. :-) Cheers. KG brdiv class=gmail_quoteblockquote class=gmail_quote style=margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;div class=gmail_quotediv class=imblockquote class=gmail_quote style=margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex div class=gmail_quotediv�brbrI dont have an XO-1 with me, but I presume if it's ubifs, the files will also be the same (i.e. os1.onu and os1.uim), adn one will use the update-nand ofw command, instead of the jffs2 copy-nand command.� But, I'm presuming that.� Will let you know tonight.spanfont color=#88br brKGbr/font/span/divbr/div/blockquote/div/div/blockquotedivbrNo joy on the XO-1 install.� After the update-nand,� the machine only boots to the OFW� OK prompt.� Tried again with Q2E47 (the one that ships with the build), Q2E48, and Q2F05.� Tried on multiple XO-1's, CSN7, SHC7, SHF8 assemblies, same symptoms.br brDoing a check-mark boot gives Can't open boot device message.� Tried another download, another USB key, same symptoms.brbrNow here's wherer my incredibly detailed technical analytical skills come to the fore: There seem to be a lot less of those little blue squares that come up during the install process, and they seem to come up in a different spot than they used to, compared to the previous os# ubifs developer builds.� :-)br brCheers.brbrKGbrbr/div/div ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: XO-1.75 relative performance
For what its worth, the XO-1.75 is currently about half the speed of the XO1.5 Measured with Turtle Art repeat 5000 fwd 100 back 100 print time but as said, its early days for the 1.75 with optimization to come Tony I am trying to get some idea of the performance of the XO-1.75 relative to other devices on the market. For instance, how would it compare against an iPad 1/2 and iPhone 4/4S? My guess is that the Armada 610 SoC that we use would come out somewhere in between the A4 chip used in the original iPad and iPhone 4, and the A5 chip used in the iPad 2 and iPhone 4S. Do we have any more accurate figures? How does the state of our software (quality of drivers, etc.) affect this? There's a cool demo online showing the graphics capabilities of the Armada 610[0]. Is this achievable on the XO-1.75? Thanks, Sridhar [0] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s17KwfzTFY ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Basic Electricity Text in French?
Hi Turtle Art on the XO can work as an AC or DC voltmeter or ammeter or oscilloscope. There are a number of experiments at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors that could be use to support instruction. Maybe that page is worth translating too. Tony Hi everyone, While working with Adam Holt in Haiti, I met a few go-getter teens who already are doing basic house wiring. They could help diagnose battery and solar array problems if they had a little more background. I learned basic electricity reading and re-reading the first few chapters of the Amateur Radio Relay League Handbook. I could use some help finding something similar for french speakers. Creole is the spoken language, but the instructional language is French and the students are easy with learning out of a book in french. Unfortunately I don't know enough French to find equivalent sources on line, or available for purchase on the web. I did find open source basic electricity texts in english (though perhaps too verbose) as examples of what I think is needed: - http://openbookproject.net/electricCircuits/index.htm - http://www.nmsea.org/Curriculum/4_6/Electricity/dc_electricity.htm - http://educypedia.karadimov.info/library/How_Electricity_Works.swf Thanks for help, George Hi everyone,divbr/divdivWhile working with Adam Holt in Haiti, I met a few go-getter teens who already are doing basic house wiring. They could help diagnose battery and solar array problems if they had a little more background./div divbr/divdivI learned basic electricity reading and re-reading the first few chapters of the Amateur Radio Relay League Handbook. I could use some help finding something similar for french speakers./divdivbr /divdivCreole is the spoken language, but the instructional language is French and the students are easy with learning out of a book in french./divdivbr/divdivUnfortunately I don't know enough French to find equivalent sources on line, or available for purchase on the web.�/div divbr/divdivI did find open source basic electricity texts in english (though perhaps too verbose) as examples of what I think is needed:/divdivullia href=http://openbookproject.net/electricCircuits/index.htm;http://openbookproject.net/electricCircuits/index.htm/a/li lia href=http://www.nmsea.org/Curriculum/4_6/Electricity/dc_electricity.htm;http://www.nmsea.org/Curriculum/4_6/Electricity/dc_electricity.htm/a/lilia href=http://educypedia.karadimov.info/library/How_Electricity_Works.swf;http://educypedia.karadimov.info/library/How_Electricity_Works.swf/a/li /uldivThanks for help,/div/divdivbr/divdivGeorge/div ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: RE: Need To Know: How to get the latest Help Activity on Macs and PCs???
Caryl To edit the Help Activity in Windows #download the help sugar bundle use this link - http://activities.sugarlabs.org//en-US/sugar/downloads/latest/4051/addon-4051-latest.xo #unpack the sugar bundle rename help-13.xo to help-13.zip open help-13.zip copy the directory Help.activity to somewhere else go to its help directory The images can be edited with Paint The htm files can be viewed in a browser The htm files are best edited with something like Frontpage but you can use Notepad or Wordpad if you like working with html Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Re: skype on XO-1.75
Thanks James Chris Have asked at http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Skype-on-the-OLPC-XO-1-75-ARM-chipset/td-p/224454 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:59 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: I would imagine Skype themselves might have an idea. Feel free to ask Skype via their forums http://community.skype.com/t5/English/ct-p/English?profile.language=en cjl brbrdiv class=gmail_quoteOn Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:59 AM, James Cameron span dir=ltra href=mailto:qu...@laptop.org;qu...@laptop.org/a/span wrote:brblockquote class=gmail_quote style=margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex; I would imagine Skype themselves might have an idea.br font color=#88br/font/blockquotedivbrFeel free to ask Skype via their forumsbr/divdivbr/divdiva href=http://community.skype.com/t5/English/ct-p/English?profile.language=en;http://community.skype.com/t5/English/ct-p/English?profile.language=en/a br /div/divbrcjlbr ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
skype on XO-1.75
Installing Skype on the XO-1.75 using the instructions at wiki.laptop.org/go/Skype does not work. I am guessing the download is for x86 and not ARM. Can the instructions please be amended, either pointing to a working download or noting that Skype is not supported on the XO-1.75? Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: skype on XO-1.75
It's a wiki, please feel free to add any notes you deem necessary. XO 1.75 are only in the hands of developers at the moment, so I'm not sure this is needed for general public, but I suppose a note on 1.75 might be needed eventually. thanks, I am happy to edit the wiki, I am just not sure what to say. Is it likely that the chipset is the problem? How do I find if there is a suitable download? Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Using XO 1.0 battery to feed external circuit board
Is there any possibility to use the battery of the XO 1.0 to feed an external circuit with 12V? You can get 5V from the USB socket, then build a 5V - 12V converter? Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: 11.3.0 release candidate 1 (build 880) released
Hi, We're pleased to announce our first release candidate of our new 11.3.0 software release. Getting a total laptop freeze when initiating a scroll in Write by using the cursor key to go below the bottom of the screen, (XO-1.75) logged as Ticket #11321 Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: UBIFS and bad blocks
Hi, Thanks for the logs, but they seem to be a bit messed up, e.g. sorry, here they are attached tony ubif-capture text.doc Description: MS-Word document ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Re: 11.3.0 build 6 released, for XO-1.75, XO-1.5 and XO-1
Bugger, another piece of documentation that was made out of date by our adoption of the Fedora change to virtual terminal allocation. I've changed it, but now it is much more difficult to read. Suggestions welcome. The last line with the brackets is quite cryptic, but that's what had me try F2 By 'Group' does it mean friends F2? Is it an alternate method for getting the terminal or exiting from it? What is the 'other' terminal. A graphic for the F2 key would be helpful Thanks Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 11.3.0 build 6 released, for XO-1.75, XO-1.5 and XO-1
yes i am too, just get a mouse cursor tony Reflashed a 1.75B1 with os6 It boots up with text messages scrolling, but when it gets to X with the mouse pointer, it doesn't show me the name screen. Mouse isn't frozen, but the blank white screen just sits there. Anyone else seeing this?br clear=all ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 11.3.0 build 6 released, for XO-1.75, XO-1.5 and XO-1
Details? (I think this is it) Virtual terminal http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Virtual_terminal workaround http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11257 tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Techteam] 11.3.0 build 6 released, for XO-1.75, XO-1.5 and XO-1
Workaround works, but the machine freezes shortly there after in Browse. I get that too but to me it looks like its #11256 which was present on OS5 Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
replacement wifi module
Hi Is it possible to get a replacement wifi module for my XO-1.5 ? Tonyinline: Untitled.jpg___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Light sensor on XO-1.75
Is the compass exposed, too? Is there a list of all the sensors and how to access them somewhere? There is an incomplete list of devices at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt#Device_I.2FO Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Mod to fix 1.75 heat spreader was: New prototype XO-1.75s in Auckland, New Zealand
I slipped a piece of electrical tape in under the heat spreader with the help of a toothpick to press the tape to the underside, without the trouble of detaching the heat spreader. Good idea. I did it that way It looks like I have a factory fitted mod, the black material in the photo Tony inline: factory mod.JPG___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Testing] New prototype XO-1.75s in Auckland, New Zealand
Thanks I'll try the modification, fitting tape to the heatspreader underside near the power connector Tony On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:15 PM, James Cameron wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 09:54:48PM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: There is a thread on the heat spreader, are there any precautions to refit it ok? The heat spreader on the XO-1.75 has four attachment points. Removing and replacing it multiple times shouldn't cause any problems, just try to avoid getting the heat conducting gunk over the SoC dirty. And finally, unlike earlier XOs, the heat spreader is much less important. I'm too busy using the oven for memory testing to check, but I bet that they will run fine at 50C minus a heat spreader Cheers, wad ___ Testing mailing list test...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Testing] [OLPC New Zealand] New prototype XO-1.75s in Auckland, New Zealand
I don't know enough about Turtle Blocks to comment, but if an application such as Turtle Blocks tries to read the sensor, it will probably block for as long as it takes for the transaction to complete ... roughly 33 milliseconds. I am getting 60mS per read in Turtle Blocks from print time repeat 100 acceleration print time Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Testing] [OLPC New Zealand] New prototype XO-1.75s in Auckland, New Zealand
Hi Testing a 1.75 with the HS 'clicky' keyboard Speak is a bit clicky. The clicks occur in the same places on the same text. Repeat some text: ctrl C ctrl V ctrl V and the same word is clicky, eg 'the quick brown fox' the word 'quick' is noticably more clicky. Power on fanfare sounds louder and tinnier. Maybe a peak or resonance in the treble? I have noticed on the 1.5 and 1.75 mouse that if my finger is too far forward on the button it overhangs the pad and gives a jumpy cursor. The pad is not sure which finger to track. Tony On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 21:15 +1000, James Cameron wrote: In testing the speakers we found the sound to be scratchy like there are buffer issues. That's interesting. More please? Speak is the only activity we've which produces sound and works. The sound is full of clicks. Also the turn on tune sounds different to how I remember the XO 1.5 but I haven't done a side by side test. There is something less pleasing about the XO 1.75, but I can't describe it. Our clicky keyboard unit has some kind of mouse problem. Sometimes, the mouse jumps, especially when you are holding a button. This was especially a problem with turtle blocks where you have to hold down the mouse button and do very fine control to snap things together. Rolling your finger to move very slowly sometimes causes the mouse to jump several block heights, rolling it back would cause it go back, but actually landing on where you need to go is impossible. Release everything and starting again lets you carry on until next time it starts jumping. I haven't yet tried to pin down the intermittent nature (like say a fraction of the area is faulty) and I haven't noticed any patterns except that it seems worse while holding down a button (with either the same or a different hand). The membrane keyboard model does not seem to have this problem. Do you have any advice for further diagnosis? Is this a known failure mode of the XO-1.5 touch pad (I'm assuming the keyboard half is the same in the 1.5 and the 1.75?)? We have some XO-1.5 prototypes with wich we could swap the touch pad and see if the problem follows the touchpad or stays with the 1.75. Is that useful? ___ Testing mailing list test...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/testing _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: New prototype XO-1.75s in Auckland, New Zealand
Yay!!! The 1.75 arrived today. Got it unbricked ok and installed os36 Ran Turtle art and the accelerometer works. :) You will need V114 though. Does it need the mod where you put tape on the heat spreader near the power jack? There is a thread on the heat spreader, are there any precautions to refit it ok? The mouse pad now registers clicks, can this be disabled? Needs a my settings item. Fails on restart, need then to reboot. Will keep testing Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Skype on XO 1.5
but just to tag this thread with a version number, i'm guessing you installed skype-2.2.0.35-fedora.i586.rpm ? i'll give it a try. i think thats the file i tried today, it had a missing dependency, qt, on both 0.88 (373pyg) and 0.92 (870) so i tried http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Skype http://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/downloading.static on 0.88 and it lagged so much it was unusable tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: Re: Skype on XO 1.5
Thanks Peter and Sameer I was wrong to attribute the lag on Skype on Sugar 0.88 installed with http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Skype to the installation, it works fine, it was internet lag tried yum localinstall skype-2.2.0.35-fedora.i586.rpm on 11.3.0 OS2 but it fails: cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) Tony On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:50 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: but just to tag this thread with a version number, i'm guessing you installed skype-2.2.0.35-fedora.i586.rpm ? �i'll give it a try. i think thats the file i tried today, it had a missing dependency, qt, on both 0.88 (373pyg) and 0.92 (870) so i tried http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Skype http://www.skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/downloading.static on 0.88 and it lagged so much it was unusable You can get around this by doing yum localinstall skype-2.2.0.35-fedora.i586.rpm and yum will check the rpm and pull in any missing dependencies for you from the Fedora repositories. Peter _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: C\C++ SDL
Development using C, C++, and SDL, is already supported by the underlying Fedora packages. A student need only install these packages and begin to use the tools. All the IDEs available in Fedora are available on an OLPC XO, and the installation is trivial compared to the task of writing a non-trivial C program. Thanks James for this information. Somebody like me with poor Linux skills finds the installation of packages quite daunting though I am capable of writing some (fairly trivial) C programs. It might be worthwhile providing a C IDE as an XO bundle at ASLO. It doesn't need to be Sugarised, like the Gnumeric Sugar launcher, and could keep its non-sugar menus and file system. Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Software Freedom Day 17 September 2011
Hi Sugar and olpc world What are people doing to celebrate Software Freedom Day this year? We are having an event in our city (Auckland, NZ) and are planning to show the XOs and if I can get some USBs then give out Sugar on a Stick. I am hoping to find a good printer to get some posters done. Anyone else doing anything? Hi I have asked the Melbourne SFD organisers and its likely to be held at the Hub, Docklands, the usual Melbourne monthly testing venue http://wiki.laptop.org/go/MelbourneXOClub We will have some XO's on show Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [Sugar-devel] Pulse Sensor: an Open Source Heart-rate Sensor that Rocks by Yury Gitman ? Kickstarter
Do you know what kind of voltage that mic input can handle? +/5 VDC? The XO1 is protected at the input by a 5V zener diode. The allowable input is -0.5V to 5V. Inputs outside this range will cause excessive current and damage. Even a single 1.5V battery can cause damage if connected reverse polarity. The XO1.5 is protected by a resistor,(1/16W 470 ohm SMD0402) and a pair of diodes to ground and to +3.3V which should protect -6V to +9V continuously, and up to higher voltages for shorter periods of time. Similar protection is planned for the XO1.75. If applying an external voltage to the XO1, it is highly recommended that test leads be made up with a microphone plug and an inbuilt series resistor. 680 ohms is the suggested resistor value, it gives a reasonable input range while still allowing the use of the full resistance range of the XO1. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Melbourne testing group, RC4 (au868)
MelbXOclub16july11 New image to be tested: http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/RC4/ * flashing is faster with our sparse build [#594] Flashed 3 laptops OK * Browse activity [#654] Browse ran OK * Speak activity, bumped to version 28, with english_rp voice [#718] Browse ran OK, english_rp voice is good for Australian accents * Screencast activity, bumped to version 3 [#692] Ran Screencast OK. Icon does not conform to Sugar guidelines * gnome-screenshot in GNOME [#563] This is a good addition * gtk-recordmysesktop in GNOME [#564] Unable to stop the recording session, the app disappears, maybe we are missing the obvious * camorama in GNOME [#558] runs ok but on some scenes AGC is unstable giving a beat effect, was natural lighting * Firefox now loads with the OLPC Library as the home page [#555] ok, content bundles work ok * Firefox is remembering passwords [801] ok, default is not to remember * Firefox default paper is not A4 [803] page setup =A4, print page setup =undefined * Scratch's udev rules pre-installed, no user intervention needed. not tested * Biology library version 10 runs ok Ran ok both sugar and gnome with a usb modem, power management has to be turned off as noted previously Turtleart is v104, latest version is v110 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [OLPC-AU] OLPC-AU release candidate RC3 (au867)
Are you going to have a test day for this image? I'm working in Melbourne CBD now, and although I have XO-1's, I'd be happy to help test the image if you're going to have a day I can come in and bash away at the things that I know bug me about some of the trial builds. Andrew Melbourne testing group meets on the third Saturday of every month http://wiki.laptop.org/go/MelbourneXOClub We are testing au868 tomorrow. Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: [OLPC-AU] Testing sprase file support for 10.1.3
Sridhar Maybe but I dont think so. The problem was, I think, only for images, not text. Need to go back and check 10930 reads like it would apply to either text or image Tony Could this be due to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10930 ? Sridhar On 24 June 2011 16:43, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: Thanks Tony. Logged at https://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/773 Sridhar On 12 June 2011 16:19, �fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Thanks Jerry Testing au77 ctrl v will not paste image to Write, no error logged, paste from tool bar works ok but does log a warning got plain filename ... in UT_go_file_open Think I have seen this before in other OS images image in clipboard was sourced from Browse using right mouse copy image Tony Quoting Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca: Hi All: This is to announce the latest OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 for testing featuring sparse file support [1], Browse-122, and Musicpainter-9 is available for testing [2]. With this release if you don't upgrade the firmware prior to testing you will receive a harmless warning at the end of fs-update about writing 1 block, this is resolved with q3a65 firmware. This newer firmware is not part of the build as not to trigger an auto firmware update on boot for those who don't want the latest firmware. For those who wish to use the latest firmware this is available from [3] and and the install instructions from [4]. If you want to test this newer firmware but with out going though the above routine, you could inject the OLPC-AU security keys using our olpc.fth script and install OLPC-AU signed firmware. Download and unzip [5] to / on your upgrade media (SD or USB) Download olpc.fth [6] to /boot on your upgrade media and place bootfw.zip from [7] into the same directory. The upgrade will occur when you boot with your media inserted, ensure you have the power adaptor plugged in. If you plan to use the 4 button upgrade or NandBlaster (need keys installed as above), download to your upgrade media from [2] au77.zd and au77.zd.zsp.fs.zip, then rename au77.zd.zsp.fs.zip to fs.zip. The OLPC-AU menu expects the new image to be named fs.zd. Once you transfer au77.zd to your upgrade media, rename it to fs.zd to be able to use option 1 or 2 on the menu. The installation of keys and firmware is optional, you can use option 1 to install your image, just skip unzipping the keys and adding the firmware. The first boot will install the security keys then reboot, second boot will install the newer firmware then reboot, third boot you should have the menu screen. Pressing 1 at the menu screen should start flashing the XO. Pressing 2 will start NandBlaster, this requires fs.zip to be present. Happy testing, Jerry ps, If I missed a list please forward this email. [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks [2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/sparse/ [3]http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q3a65/ [4]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q3a65#fs-update_sparse_.zd_files [5]http://download.laptop.org.au/XO/F11/10.1.3/keys/pubkeys.zip [6]https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/repository/revisions/master/raw/xo-release/olpc.fth [7]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/q3a65/bootfw.zip ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ OLPC-AU mailing list olpc...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-au _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
''Narrative Interfaces'' at OLPC
Hi I did some work on writing a text based dungeon program. The dungeon file is purposefully plain text and can be easily edited by kids in Write. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Tonyforster#Text_dungeon The idea was that kids develop literacy and numeracy skills by creating dungeons and 'cheating' on existing dungeons. Playing the game visualise 2D spaces (could extend to 3D or even 4D) navigate compass directions N E S W and relationship to right, left text literacy can include subject related content problem solving Making/editing/reading a dungeon file all the above plus Cartesian coordinates variables word processing skills programming like skills create in any language The next step is to Sugarise it. The code so far is published. If anybody wants to take it on thats OK with me. Tony ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: XO-1 touchpad once more
My experience is that the xo1 touchpad previously had infrequent periods of total unusability, that is you just had to shut the lid and do something else for an hour but this was a relatively rare event, maybe once a week Now the touchpad auto-recalibrates, there are frequent periods of unusability that last for round 30 seconds, maybe 4 times an hour This no doubt varies from laptop to laptop. I suspect that for my XO1, the error sensing for the recalibrate is more aggressive than optimum. I recollect that the driver's author issued the invitation for people to mess with the settings and report what settings work best for them. Maybe if anybody is unhappy with current performance, the best contribution would be to look at the source and experiment with the settings Tony Well, we certainly seem to have reduced the frequency of the problem overall, even if a few people who never had the problem now have it. ;-) It's the overall frequency that matters. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Re: 11.2.0 development build 22 released
Thanks Chris Its a helpful resource Still a big learning curve though for the non technical Still getting my head round localization Maybe even better, could it give an example of one string, tracked from Pootle through to build, giving url's and filenames and maybe listing who did what and when to trigger its migration? Tony I've just created http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation_Team/Localization_testing Please add to it as you see fit. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Testing sprase file support for 10.1.3
Thanks Jerry Testing au77 ctrl v will not paste image to Write, no error logged, paste from tool bar works ok but does log a warning got plain filename ... in UT_go_file_open Think I have seen this before in other OS images image in clipboard was sourced from Browse using right mouse copy image Tony Quoting Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca: Hi All: This is to announce the latest OLPC-AU build for the XO-1.5 for testing featuring sparse file support [1], Browse-122, and Musicpainter-9 is available for testing [2]. With this release if you don't upgrade the firmware prior to testing you will receive a harmless warning at the end of fs-update about writing 1 block, this is resolved with q3a65 firmware. This newer firmware is not part of the build as not to trigger an auto firmware update on boot for those who don't want the latest firmware. For those who wish to use the latest firmware this is available from [3] and and the install instructions from [4]. If you want to test this newer firmware but with out going though the above routine, you could inject the OLPC-AU security keys using our olpc.fth script and install OLPC-AU signed firmware. Download and unzip [5] to / on your upgrade media (SD or USB) Download olpc.fth [6] to /boot on your upgrade media and place bootfw.zip from [7] into the same directory. The upgrade will occur when you boot with your media inserted, ensure you have the power adaptor plugged in. If you plan to use the 4 button upgrade or NandBlaster (need keys installed as above), download to your upgrade media from [2] au77.zd and au77.zd.zsp.fs.zip, then rename au77.zd.zsp.fs.zip to fs.zip. The OLPC-AU menu expects the new image to be named fs.zd. Once you transfer au77.zd to your upgrade media, rename it to fs.zd to be able to use option 1 or 2 on the menu. The installation of keys and firmware is optional, you can use option 1 to install your image, just skip unzipping the keys and adding the firmware. The first boot will install the security keys then reboot, second boot will install the newer firmware then reboot, third boot you should have the menu screen. Pressing 1 at the menu screen should start flashing the XO. Pressing 2 will start NandBlaster, this requires fs.zip to be present. Happy testing, Jerry ps, If I missed a list please forward this email. [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Quozl/fs-update-skip-unused-blocks [2]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/sparse/ [3]http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/q3a65/ [4]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q3a65#fs-update_sparse_.zd_files [5]http://download.laptop.org.au/XO/F11/10.1.3/keys/pubkeys.zip [6]https://dev.laptop.org.au/projects/xo-au/repository/revisions/master/raw/xo-release/olpc.fth [7]http://build.laptop.org.au/xo/10.1.3/xo-1.5/q3a65/bootfw.zip ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
