Re: [Testing] Wireless test results

2009-02-16 Thread Ties Stuij
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote:
 On 16 Feb 2009, at 05:32, Chris Ball wrote:

 Hi,

 Last I checked, it was either the firmware or the kernel changes
 that did it.  I posted my findings to the mailing list in the past
 two weeks.

 I think your findings actually say it was either the firmware,
 kernel,
 or something else altogether.  It'd be good to downgrade both at
 once,
 but still on candidate-800, so that we can check that at least *one*
 of
 the two is the problem.

 I should be asleep, but instead have been zigzagging through old 
 http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/
  staging builds testing WPA and the dialogue cancel dance for the
 last 4hrs:

 790 working
 4 working
 5 working
 6 working -
 7 intermittent
 11 intermittent
 15 broken
 800 broken

 Intermittent means it can occasionally associate with a WPA access
 point with no cancel dance, but usually I had to dance. Broken means I
 had to dance every time.

 One thing I noticed when testing the working 4, 5 and 6 that may help,
 is that if you do naughtily click an already connected WPA access
 point you'll get back to one round of the WPA cancel dance. If you
 make sure you first  select 'disconnect' then click the AP again, you
 get correctly re-associated, no dance required. This suggests that
 clicking a connected AP should either do NOP, or should at least
 disconnect properly before trying to connect again.

 The sound you just heard was my head hitting the pillow :-)

I reported this before with build 26 I believe, but it might be of use
to point out again. Also on 800, the ability of the XO to connect to
an AP have been greatly increased over 767. At the moment connecting
to a WPA ap succeeds one in two times. On 767 it varied from 1 in 5 to
1 in 10 to 1 in can't be bothered to try and connect to the fr!@@n
access point. I already supplied some logs, but if you'd like some
more specific testing output of our setup, I'd be happy to supply it.
Just tell what you want to know.

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Re: [Testing] Wireless test results

2009-02-16 Thread rihowa...@gmail.com
I find 767,  with either q2e18 or q2e24, connecting to a WPA AP  
succeeds 100% of the time for me using a Linksys WRT54g L.

  With OFW q2e32 I have seen the network connection die. Seems like  
the stack is dead.  I assume it is the marvell driver that is  
delivered with q2e32.  My other XO running 767 with q2e18 maintains  
its connectivity.

On Feb 16, 2009, at 12:11 AM, Ties Stuij wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Gary C Martin  
 g...@garycmartin.com wrote:
 On 16 Feb 2009, at 05:32, Chris Ball wrote:

 Hi,

 Last I checked, it was either the firmware or the kernel changes
 that did it.  I posted my findings to the mailing list in the past
 two weeks.

 I think your findings actually say it was either the firmware,
 kernel,
 or something else altogether.  It'd be good to downgrade both at
 once,
 but still on candidate-800, so that we can check that at least *one*
 of
 the two is the problem.

 I should be asleep, but instead have been zigzagging through old  
 http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/
  staging builds testing WPA and the dialogue cancel dance for the
 last 4hrs:

 790 working
 4 working
 5 working
 6 working -
 7 intermittent
 11 intermittent
 15 broken
 800 broken

 Intermittent means it can occasionally associate with a WPA access
 point with no cancel dance, but usually I had to dance. Broken  
 means I
 had to dance every time.

 One thing I noticed when testing the working 4, 5 and 6 that may  
 help,
 is that if you do naughtily click an already connected WPA access
 point you'll get back to one round of the WPA cancel dance. If you
 make sure you first  select 'disconnect' then click the AP again, you
 get correctly re-associated, no dance required. This suggests that
 clicking a connected AP should either do NOP, or should at least
 disconnect properly before trying to connect again.

 The sound you just heard was my head hitting the pillow :-)

 I reported this before with build 26 I believe, but it might be of use
 to point out again. Also on 800, the ability of the XO to connect to
 an AP have been greatly increased over 767. At the moment connecting
 to a WPA ap succeeds one in two times. On 767 it varied from 1 in 5 to
 1 in 10 to 1 in can't be bothered to try and connect to the fr!@@n
 access point. I already supplied some logs, but if you'd like some
 more specific testing output of our setup, I'd be happy to supply it.
 Just tell what you want to know.

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Re: [Testing] Wireless test results

2009-02-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
The OS is supposed to reload the wireless firmware so the firmware that 
is in OFW shouldn't affect the OS behavior.


rihowa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I find 767,  with either q2e18 or q2e24, connecting to a WPA AP  
 succeeds 100% of the time for me using a Linksys WRT54g L.

   With OFW q2e32 I have seen the network connection die. Seems like  
 the stack is dead.  I assume it is the marvell driver that is  
 delivered with q2e32.  My other XO running 767 with q2e18 maintains  
 its connectivity.

 On Feb 16, 2009, at 12:11 AM, Ties Stuij wrote:

   
 On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Gary C Martin  
 g...@garycmartin.com wrote:
 
 On 16 Feb 2009, at 05:32, Chris Ball wrote:

   
 Hi,

 
 Last I checked, it was either the firmware or the kernel changes
 that did it.  I posted my findings to the mailing list in the past
 two weeks.
   
 I think your findings actually say it was either the firmware,
 kernel,
 or something else altogether.  It'd be good to downgrade both at
 once,
 but still on candidate-800, so that we can check that at least *one*
 of
 the two is the problem.
 
 I should be asleep, but instead have been zigzagging through old  
 http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/
  staging builds testing WPA and the dialogue cancel dance for the
 last 4hrs:

 790 working
 4 working
 5 working
 6 working -
 7 intermittent
 11 intermittent
 15 broken
 800 broken

 Intermittent means it can occasionally associate with a WPA access
 point with no cancel dance, but usually I had to dance. Broken  
 means I
 had to dance every time.

 One thing I noticed when testing the working 4, 5 and 6 that may  
 help,
 is that if you do naughtily click an already connected WPA access
 point you'll get back to one round of the WPA cancel dance. If you
 make sure you first  select 'disconnect' then click the AP again, you
 get correctly re-associated, no dance required. This suggests that
 clicking a connected AP should either do NOP, or should at least
 disconnect properly before trying to connect again.

 The sound you just heard was my head hitting the pillow :-)
   
 I reported this before with build 26 I believe, but it might be of use
 to point out again. Also on 800, the ability of the XO to connect to
 an AP have been greatly increased over 767. At the moment connecting
 to a WPA ap succeeds one in two times. On 767 it varied from 1 in 5 to
 1 in 10 to 1 in can't be bothered to try and connect to the fr!@@n
 access point. I already supplied some logs, but if you'd like some
 more specific testing output of our setup, I'd be happy to supply it.
 Just tell what you want to know.

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Re: [Testing] Wireless test results

2009-02-16 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:21:34AM -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote:
 The OS is supposed to reload the wireless firmware so the firmware that  
 is in OFW shouldn't affect the OS behavior.

Agreed.  It shouldn't.  I wonder if it does, through some mechanism we
don't know yet.  Has anyone else got the recent OS build to operate fine
on WPA with an older version of OFW?

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Re: [Testing] Wireless test results

2009-02-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
James Cameron wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:21:34AM -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote:
   
 The OS is supposed to reload the wireless firmware so the firmware that  
 is in OFW shouldn't affect the OS behavior.
 

 Agreed.  It shouldn't.  I wonder if it does, through some mechanism we
 don't know yet.  Has anyone else got the recent OS build to operate fine
 on WPA with an older version of OFW?

   
One could try adding wlan-reset to /boot/olpc.fth, thus ensuring that 
the wireless module
is not carrying over any state from the firmware.

In the normal case of booting from NAND (or USB or SD), OFW doesn't even 
turn on the wireless module.  This is easy to confirm - just observe 
that the wireless led doesn't turn on until well into the OS startup.  
I'm quite sure that the OS wireless code doesn't extract the wireless 
firmware image from OFW - it could in theory do so, but I'm sure that it 
doesn't - it gets it from the filesystem.

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