Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 52]

2011-08-02 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Mon, 8/1/11, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: From: Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org Subject: Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 52] To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com Cc: devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Monday, August 1, 2011, 3:23 PM

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 52]

2011-08-02 Thread Daniel Drake
On 2 August 2011 15:35, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm sure I can jump some more ropes to make the case on a fresh os1 vs a fresh os874, but I do not see any reason. The reason is that df is known to not produce good results on jffs2 nor on ubifs (but ubifs is supposedely

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 52]

2011-08-02 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
The reason is that df is known to not produce good results on jffs2 nor on ubifs (but ubifs is supposedely much more truthful). I do not know why you say that when the data show otherwise. (and although I can not find the post right now, I remember that James Cameron came on a similar

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 52]

2011-08-02 Thread Daniel Drake
On 2 August 2011 17:10, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: I do not know why you say that when the data show otherwise. You haven't provided data for the requested test. Maybe you could investigate yourself in a way that you find more reliable. 100MB is considerable space for

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 52]

2011-08-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 28 July 2011 21:08, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: For what is worths, with the increasing size of the builds I had posted [1] a crude script I was using to remove dri, firmware, extra locales and 256x256 ions (61Mb worth on os874) which people used, and I did not hear

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 52]

2011-08-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: That's not to say there isn't an issue here (there may well be), but you need to prove this with a test that looks at the quantity of data that can be stored. Yioryos, du -shx / before and after will give you uncompressed

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 52]

2011-08-01 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
--- On Mon, 8/1/11, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: From: Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org Subject: Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 52] To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com Cc: devel@lists.laptop.org Date: Monday, August 1, 2011, 10:25 AM

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 52]

2011-08-01 Thread Daniel Drake
On 1 August 2011 20:10, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote: My original report was based on the `df' data. To test how accurate these might be I did the following: To save me the effort of trying to understood exactly what you did, could you just state how much data from

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build

2011-07-31 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 07/29/2011 01:49 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: I don't have mine handy but I have a OLPC serial adapater What leads you to believe that the OLPC serial adapter needs firmware downloaded? -- Richard A. Smith rich...@laptop.org One Laptop per Child

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build

2011-07-29 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, linux-firmware, the package that puts lots of stuff in /lib/firmware, is growing and growing and is mostly irrelevant for us, including firmware for (e.g.) SCSI controllers. I'm considering removing it - nothing in

Removing linux-firmware from the build

2011-07-28 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, linux-firmware, the package that puts lots of stuff in /lib/firmware, is growing and growing and is mostly irrelevant for us, including firmware for (e.g.) SCSI controllers. I'm considering removing it - nothing in the XOs uses firmware from that package. (our wireless firmware comes from

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build

2011-07-28 Thread Chris Leonard
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: The question is, do any external devices used by our users pull on firmware from this directory? Browsing the contents, I doubt it, but I thought I'd ask anyway. I may also just remove it from the builds as an experiment,

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build

2011-07-28 Thread Daniel Drake
On 28 July 2011 16:44, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: Just guessing, but I would think the most commonly used external devices would be projectors and external storage via USB.  There are users that have posted about projector issues and they would be logical candidates to

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build

2011-07-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Thanks for your input. USB VGA and USB storage devices do not draw firmware from Linux, so they would be unaffected. I am fairly sure that the same is true for robotics. +10 on removal :-) m --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build

2011-07-28 Thread Kevin Gordon
I think this might be the same issue, if not, please forgive: On all of our deployed XO 1.0 machines, immediately after reflashing, we run one of Mavrothal's scripts that pretty much removes everything from that directory on the XO 1's. The script saves one file only: USB8388.bin If one

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build

2011-07-28 Thread Kevin Gordon
Oops bad cut and paste of the code below ... better to just go look at his script. Line 5 should say run not pristine. :-) On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com wrote: I think this might be the same issue, if not, please forgive: On all of our deployed XO 1.0

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 52]

2011-07-28 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
From: Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org To: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Subject: Removing linux-firmware from the build Hi, linux-firmware, the package that puts lots of stuff in /lib/firmware, is growing and growing and is mostly irrelevant for us, including firmware for (e.g.) SCSI

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 53]

2011-07-28 Thread Yioryos Asprobounitis
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:05:17 -0400 From: Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build   His full script, along with a swap script, and some bad/ugly installs script is in this thread I hope that by bad/ugly installs script you mean the scripts

Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build [Devel Digest, Vol 65, Issue 53]

2011-07-28 Thread Kevin Gordon
routine sort it all out for us :-) Cheers, KG On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.comwrote: Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:05:17 -0400 From: Kevin Gordon kgordon...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Removing linux-firmware from the build His full script, along