Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 05/24/2011 11:37 PM, Paul Fox wrote: certainly not as serious as with XO-1.5: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10402#comment:5 what's not clear is a) whether this condition can be caused by lid-switch, and b) whether it can be caused in your charging racks. from my experience with

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-25 Thread Paul Fox
smith wrote: On 05/24/2011 11:37 PM, Paul Fox wrote: certainly not as serious as with XO-1.5: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10402#comment:5 what's not clear is a) whether this condition can be caused by lid-switch, and b) whether it can be caused in your charging racks.

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-25 Thread Richard A. Smith
On 05/25/2011 01:20 PM, Paul Fox wrote: Its the other way around. The original problem was reported by people using the racks. We just theorized that people who stack them would also have a similar problem. yes. but quozl's test of xo-1 laptops, as reported in the above

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread James Cameron
Does ohm wake on lid open? It's been so long ... -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 24 May 2011 14:42, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: hi sridhar -- i'll take a stab at more detailed answers to all of these questions tomorrow..  powerd was developed initially on machines that had ohmd installed (i think the rpm still tries to uninstall ohmd first) so it's probably not far

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: There is still a danger of these XOs overheating, so we are looking to develop a solution that is as painless and quick to deploy as possible. Is a 'hardware solution' more feasible? ie: find a way to ensure they

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 24 May 2011 22:53, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: There is still a danger of these XOs overheating, so we are looking to develop a solution that is as painless and quick to deploy as

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread Paul Fox
sridhar wrote: On 24 May 2011 14:42, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: hi sridhar -- i'll take a stab at more detailed answers to all of these questions tomorrow.. powerd was developed initially on machines that had ohmd installed (i think the rpm still tries to uninstall ohmd first)

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread Paul Fox
sridhar wrote: We're still grappling with the aftermath of http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10402 XO-1.5s that have been damaged from overheating are being replaced, but we also need a means to prevent others from meeting a similar fate. Our preferred solution is to upgrade to our

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: as you've gathered, there are a lot of pieces that make all this work:  the UI, powerd, the kernel, the firmware.  if you could upgrade all of the last three, you might be fine, but of course then other interactions between your

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread Paul Fox
james wrote: Does ohm wake on lid open? It's been so long ... yes. i think it can't help it, as there's no way to suppress lid-open wakeups on older kernels. paul =- paul fox, p...@laptop.org ___ Devel mailing list

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 24 May 2011 23:42, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: i think james cameron has better data, since he did the testing, but i seem to recall that XO-1 doesn't overheat to the same extent that you discovered with 1.5.  (unless you have more evidence in that regard.)  if we were convinced that

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 25 May 2011 12:45, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 24 May 2011 23:42, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: i think james cameron has better data, since he did the testing, but i seem to recall that XO-1 doesn't overheat to the same extent that you discovered with 1.5.  (unless

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread Paul Fox
sridhar wrote: On 25 May 2011 12:45, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 24 May 2011 23:42, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: i think james cameron has better data, since he did the testing, but i seem to recall that XO-1 doesn't overheat to the same extent that you

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-24 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:37:05PM -0400, Paul Fox wrote: certainly not as serious as with XO-1.5: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10402#comment:5 what's not clear is a) whether this condition can be caused by lid-switch, and b) whether it can be caused in your charging racks. from my

Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-23 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
We're still grappling with the aftermath of http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10402 XO-1.5s that have been damaged from overheating are being replaced, but we also need a means to prevent others from meeting a similar fate. Our preferred solution is to upgrade to our latest build, which has a fixed

Re: Installing powerd on earlier F11 builds

2011-05-23 Thread Paul Fox
hi sridhar -- i'll take a stab at more detailed answers to all of these questions tomorrow.. powerd was developed initially on machines that had ohmd installed (i think the rpm still tries to uninstall ohmd first) so it's probably not far from working. but it's entirely possible (likely) that