Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-10 Thread Werner Almesberger
Petr Vanek wrote: > Werner, you might recognize this tkinter script :) Looks familiar indeed :) Already Tkinter sounded like a clue. I think I'm the only one in Openmoko using it. > http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/menu/menu.jpg Nice and simple :) If the uSD choices had a little more descriptiv

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-10 Thread Petr Vanek
WA> Sounds cool. Screenshots, for those of us with more curiosity WA> than time to play ? WA> WA> - Werner Werner, you might recognize this tkinter script :) http://vanous.penguin.cz/files/om/menu/menu.jpg Petr ___ devel mailing list devel@lists.ope

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-10 Thread Werner Almesberger
Petr Vanek wrote: > upsides: Sounds cool. Screenshots, for those of us with more curiosity than time to play ? - Werner ___ devel mailing list devel@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-10 Thread Petr Vanek
AG> Not 100% certain but stripping the 64-byte U-Boot header that we add AG> will certainly devolve it somewhat. AG> AG> | I am not really sure i understand what happens here (build AG> script): | AG> | ${CROSS_COMPILE}objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -S AG> | $1/arch/arm/boot/compressed/vm

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-08 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | AG> | AG> make ARCH=arm menuconfig | | thank you. | | is there a way to make zImage out of uImage again? Not 100% certain but stripping the 64-byte U-Boot header that we add will certainly devolve it somewh

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-05 Thread Petr Vanek
AG> AG> make ARCH=arm menuconfig thank you. is there a way to make zImage out of uImage again? I am not really sure i understand what happens here (build script): ${CROSS_COMPILE}objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -S $1/arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux $1/linux.bin mkimage -A arm -O l

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:09:06 -0300 | Werner Almesberger (WA) wrote: | | WA> Petr Vanek wrote: | WA> > dear kernel boys, is there a minimal _keep_fr_just_alive_ kernel | WA> > config somewhere? then we only n

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-03 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:09:06 -0300 Werner Almesberger (WA) wrote: WA> Petr Vanek wrote: WA> > dear kernel boys, is there a minimal _keep_fr_just_alive_ kernel WA> > config somewhere? then we only need to add fb and filesystems WA> WA> You could try to take out things from gta02_micro_defconf

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
Petr Vanek wrote: > dear kernel boys, is there a minimal _keep_fr_just_alive_ kernel config > somewhere? then we only need to add fb and filesystems You could try to take out things from gta02_micro_defconfig. E.g., I still have USB and I also left a few things in that were only needed to not

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-03 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | TK> It should be pretty easy. You only need to add patches to the | TK> linux-kexecboot recipe. It may be | TK> a problem that the phones only have two buttons, but that could be | TK> solved. The size of k

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-03 Thread Petr Vanek
TK> It should be pretty easy. You only need to add patches to the TK> linux-kexecboot recipe. It may be TK> a problem that the phones only have two buttons, but that could be TK> solved. The size of kernel + rootfs TK> for collie is ca. 800KB and it takes only a few seconds to get to TK> the boo

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 11:57 +, Andy Green wrote: > I asked Charlie to make a mini SDL static library build, which he has > done; the stock one wants a lot of shared libs. He also made a demo > applet that displays tux via SDL when it runs. > Yes I confirm, SDL would be a usable solution. It h

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Thomas Kunze
Petr Vanek schrieb: > Hi Thomas, > > i have prepared a small rootfs (in fact initrd) image [1] with kernel, > Xfbdev and Xglamo xserver and mdev (all together 5653892 Bytes) (by > using Werner's scripts :). It takes about 12secs to boot from first pwr > press (with qi). I have kexecboot already bui

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Petr Vanek
PF> Probably you can save some 3 sec here by commenting out boot from PF> uSD in Qi. To me personally boot time doesn't matter much, btw. i tried that yesterday but it failed to boot altogether... will still give it a shot, Petr ___ devel mailing li

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Paul Fertser
Petr Vanek writes: > Petr Vanek (PV) wrote: >>AG> Where is the time mainly going, loading kernel + initramfs, or boot >>AG> action, or userspace? >>AG> >> >>uSD card removed, using qi: >> >>Sun Mar 1 18:23:49 CET 2009 pwr pressed >>Sun Mar 1 18:23:51 CET 2009 aux led on and off > forgot to add

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Am Sonntag, den 01.03.2009, 18:09 +0100 schrieb "Marco Trevisan | (Treviño)": |> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: |>> Oh no. Please don't introduce SDL. We have something leaner and much |>> better -- it's call

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sonntag, den 01.03.2009, 18:09 +0100 schrieb "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)": > Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > > Oh no. Please don't introduce SDL. We have something leaner and much > > better -- it's called EFL. > > And if I recall correctly using elementary with fb should be pretty > easy... Isn'

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Petr Vanek
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:27:42 +0100 Petr Vanek (PV) wrote: >AG> Where is the time mainly going, loading kernel + initramfs, or boot >AG> action, or userspace? >AG> > >uSD card removed, using qi: > >Sun Mar 1 18:23:49 CET 2009 pwr pressed >Sun Mar 1 18:23:51 CET 2009 aux led on and off forgot to

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Petr Vanek
AG> Where is the time mainly going, loading kernel + initramfs, or boot AG> action, or userspace? AG> uSD card removed, using qi: Sun Mar 1 18:23:49 CET 2009 pwr pressed Sun Mar 1 18:23:51 CET 2009 aux led on and off Sun Mar 1 18:23:53 CET 2009 aux led on (and stays on) Sun Mar 1 18:23:55 CE

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | WA> This size is still a bit on the large side, tough. Andy and I have | WA> been discussing this thing last week and we think that one could | WA> bring the size down considerably by using SDL instead of X.

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Oh no. Please don't introduce SDL. We have something leaner and much > better -- it's called EFL. And if I recall correctly using elementary with fb should be pretty easy... Isn't it? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Petr Vanek
M'L> You're already using initramfs? Yes -- Petr Vanek ___ devel mailing list devel@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
You're already using initramfs? ___ devel mailing list devel@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Petr Vanek
WA> This size is still a bit on the large side, tough. Andy and I have WA> been discussing this thing last week and we think that one could WA> bring the size down considerably by using SDL instead of X. The WA> tricky bit is to reduce the number of dependencies on other WA> libraries. I think Guil

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sonntag, den 01.03.2009, 08:24 -0300 schrieb Werner Almesberger: > Petr Vanek wrote: > > i have prepared a small rootfs (in fact initrd) image [1] with kernel, > > Xfbdev and Xglamo xserver and mdev (all together 5653892 Bytes) > > Nice ! mdev is indeed pretty fast. I have to use this for my st

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | This size is still a bit on the large side, tough. Andy and I have | been discussing this thing last week and we think that one could In fact I brought it up with several people including Werner. | bring

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-03-01 Thread Werner Almesberger
Petr Vanek wrote: > i have prepared a small rootfs (in fact initrd) image [1] with kernel, > Xfbdev and Xglamo xserver and mdev (all together 5653892 Bytes) Nice ! mdev is indeed pretty fast. I have to use this for my stuff as well. udev is like watching the whole life of paint from drying until i

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-02-28 Thread Petr Vanek
>> More specifically, that you don't actually change the boot loader >> but make a small Linux system that does nothing but bring up the >> menu and then execute the respective choice with kexec. >> >I wrote a little C programm for this for zaurus pda. It has no >touchscreen suppport, but you m

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-01-15 Thread Werner Almesberger
Thomas Kunze wrote: > I wrote a little C programm for this for zaurus pda. Nice ! I'd rather stay away from mandatory auto-detection, but user-selected auto-detection combined with a list of (hopefully ;-) safe choices should work well. - Werner ___ de

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-01-09 Thread Thomas Kunze
Werner Almesberger schrieb: > ramsarvan wrote: > >> I want to have a boot menu which shows the touch based platform >> selection options. >> > > You mean you want to have a boot menu (instead of the current u-boot > menu) that uses the touch screen ? > > >> Is that possible to do? >>

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-01-08 Thread Werner Almesberger
I wrote: > - teach Qi to read zImage. I just gave it a try. Seems to work well enough. Patches on openmoko-kernel. - Werner ___ devel mailing list devel@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-01-08 Thread Werner Almesberger
Petr Vanek wrote: > so each distro would have to supply zImage... or can one locate the > build directory where our [fr owners :)] kernels come from, so one > could get t zImage from there? Hmm yes, that would be one option. Other possibilities include: - add uImage support to kexec-tools - teac

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2009-01-08 Thread Petr Vanek
please excuse my questions (perhaps too stupid for you): On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 03:27:17 -0200 Werner Almesberger (WA) wrote: >More specifically, that you don't actually change the boot loader >but make a small Linux system that does nothing but bring up the >menu and then execute the respective c

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2008-12-26 Thread ramsarvan
Hi Werner, Thank you for the reply. >You mean you want to have a boot menu (instead of the current u-boot >menu) that uses the touch screen ? Yes. I want a Graphical UI instead of the character based uboot menu ui. Which will have 2 big icons showing Qtopia & Android. When user selects that par

Re: Touch based Dual Boot Menu

2008-12-26 Thread Werner Almesberger
ramsarvan wrote: > I want to have a boot menu which shows the touch based > platform selection options. You mean you want to have a boot menu (instead of the current u-boot menu) that uses the touch screen ? > Is that possible to do? That would certainly be possible to do, but ... may I suggest