Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
Hi, This is excellent discussion about what could be done about improving the user experience. Now that we have together.jolla.com I suggest you move the concrete proposals there, since then a wider audience of users can discuss and upvote any proposals. We do obviously follow this list to

[SailfishDevel] Cannot activate Developer mode

2013-12-30 Thread christopher . lamb
Hi David Zitat von "David Greaves" : Having 2 Chris-es in the thread is a touch confusing but I think you have dev mode working. It confuses me as well, and I am one of the Chrises - hence this new thread! 1) Dev mode: Unfortunately I don't have dev mode working. It just spins a while try

Re: [SailfishDevel] Problem with QQmlListProperty

2013-12-30 Thread Janne Kokko
Remove "static" keyword and put correct scope for the methods in cpp file: 2013/12/29 Markus Svensson : > Hi guys, ... > static void append(QQmlListProperty *property, Note* value) { > > NoteList *list = (NoteList*) property; > > list->addNote(value); > > } => void NoteList::append(QQml

Re: [SailfishDevel] Fwd: Re: Impossible to SSH since update: SSH via Wifi

2013-12-30 Thread David Greaves
You need to ensure your device has a working Jolla Account (ie Store opens and shows apps). 1.0.0.5 has a bug where trying to use developer updates messes up the update system. https://together.jolla.com/question/6055/what-are-developer-updates/ Having 2 Chris-es in the thread is a touch confus

Re: [SailfishDevel] Fwd: Re: Impossible to SSH since update: SSH via Wifi

2013-12-30 Thread christopher . lamb
Last update for tonight .. I have just found this tutorial http://www.jollatides.com/2013/12/22/tutorial-install-terminal-native-file-manager-and-accessing-sd-card-storage/ My attempts to enable Developer mode don't get as far as Timo's. So it looks like it is failing, but I don't get any o

[SailfishDevel] Fwd: Re: Impossible to SSH since update: SSH via Wifi

2013-12-30 Thread christopher . lamb
Hi Chris Checking for updates has now given an answer. I am 1.0.0.5, and it now says "Up to date". Yet according to this mailing list, it should be 1.0.2.5 Do I need to enable developer updates on the developer mode settings? If so it does not seem to accept my jolla account. Chris -

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Mikael Hermansson
whoops your are right. On Monday 30 December 2013 20.14.22 Chris Walker wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:20:17 +0100 > > Mikael Hermansson wrote: > > On Monday 30 December 2013 15.35.39 Graham Cobb wrote: > > > I need that information all the time -- a **lot** more > > > often than I actually int

Re: [SailfishDevel] Impossible to SSH since update: SSH via Wifi

2013-12-30 Thread christopher . lamb
Hi Chris Very mixed so far. Successes: 1) Contacts synced from N9 like a dream once I remembered where the N9 hides the Sync function. (thanks Tone) 2) Jolla account accepted 3) Connect to Home WIFI / Internet Failures / Don't knows 4) System updates: It just spins and spins forever looking

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Mikael Hermansson
What you seems ask for is "don't turn off screen when /idle/ but make sure it show battrerystate/phone etc.."? eg in *homeview and lockscreen* that I could agree but not in applications its just would lock wrong in sailfishos IMHO. Regards Mikael On Monday 30 December 2013 18.07.03 Graham Cob

[SailfishDevel] Request for modern C++ compiler in the SailfishOS SDK

2013-12-30 Thread Putze Sven
Hi there, yes the subject is quite a bit provocative :-) When I get it right there is a gcc4.6.4 on the MerSDK virtual machine. An up-to-date version of gcc should be something around 4.8. Usually I am not part of the "I must always have the latest version" race but with reference to compilers

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
You are most welcome... But sometimes you need to put your p***s in to the ant-nest and try something new. That's what Jolla is all about. Creating something new - together. And I know that new doesn't come without pain, but when you got it there is joy. But I might (?) agree that the lock scree

Re: [SailfishDevel] Impossible to SSH since update: SSH via Wifi

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 17:59:25 +0100 christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: > Hi David et al. [snip] > p.s, as a positive note, my Jolla arrived this morning! I'd be interested to know if you can download any apps and perform software updates 'out of the box' as my phone wouldn't. I suspect that it was

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:13:23 + Kimmo Lindholm wrote: > I have used Jolla now for over a month, and I have to say that for > first days I missed the battery level etc things, but not anymore. I > like where they are, I know how I can "peek" them. > > I haven't drained the battery so low that

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:20:17 +0100 Mikael Hermansson wrote: > On Monday 30 December 2013 15.35.39 Graham Cobb wrote: > > > > I need that information all the time -- a **lot** more > > often than I actually interact with the phone. > > In every app you can just shortly "swipe left less than h

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 14:01:34 + David Greaves wrote: > Thanks for taking the time to comment :) > > Some parts I can offer an opinion on ... > > On 30/12/13 13:02, Chris Walker wrote: > > 1. Front screen - no labels on second screen (phone, messages, > > browser and camera) except when dragg

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:35:39 + Graham Cobb wrote: > On 30/12/13 14:01, David Greaves wrote: [snip] > > By design - you rarely need this information but it's trivially > > accessible. > > Poor decision. I need that information all the time -- a **lot** more > often than I actually interact w

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Gabriel Böhme
Tell me a harbour fitting solution, that prevents the screen from blanking! :) Also getting this information in a harbour conform way could be a bit difficult. ;-) But outside Jolla harbour it should not be a problem. Gabriel. -- Von meinem Nokia N9 gesendet marko.kosc...@tisno.de schr

Re: [SailfishDevel] Order of app icons in the launcher. What controls it? Changeable?

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 03:15:00 +0200 Artem Marchenko wrote: > Hi all > > Rearranging apps manually it tedious while with three screens of apps > you have to do it somehow. I am thinking about a small utility app > that would sort the icons alphabetically or by some criteria (e.g. > app names known

Re: [SailfishDevel] Impossible to SSH since update: SSH via Wifi

2013-12-30 Thread christopher . lamb
Hi Vincent Thanks for the hint, but I should have said my main development host is OSX. As Wikipedia quaintly puts it "se of ifconfig to modify network settings in Mac OS X is discouraged". I am also sure I saw somewhere that USB connection to a Jolla from OSX does not work yet. Grüsse

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread marko . koschak
If you have this special need to see that information all the time on your screen why not writing an app that shows that info on screen. Enable that app to always keep the screen active without blanking it so it should do that job for you. Any volunteers? -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 30.12.1

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
I have used Jolla now for over a month, and I have to say that for first days I missed the battery level etc things, but not anymore. I like where they are, I know how I can "peek" them. I haven't drained the battery so low that I could see does the indicator led start to blink when low battery

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Graham Cobb
On 30/12/13 17:20, Mikael Hermansson wrote: > On Monday 30 December 2013 15.35.39 Graham Cobb wrote: >> I need that information all the time -- a **lot** more >> often than I actually interact with the phone. > In every app you can just shortly "swipe left less than half of screen" It doesn't work

Re: [SailfishDevel] Impossible to SSH since update: SSH via Wifi

2013-12-30 Thread Vincent B.
On 30/12/2013 17:59, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: > My assumption is: > a) Jolla phone connected to wifi-router via wifi. > b) Development host connected to same network, either also via wifi or > via ethernet cable. The simplest way for me is ssh over usb. plug on the Jolla, do ifconfig usb

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Mikael Hermansson
On Monday 30 December 2013 15.35.39 Graham Cobb wrote: > I need that information all the time -- a **lot** more > often than I actually interact with the phone. In every app you can just shortly "swipe left less than half of screen" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9YGtW274GI and you will see

Re: [SailfishDevel] Impossible to SSH since update: SSH via Wifi

2013-12-30 Thread christopher . lamb
Hi David et al. Can you clarify the exact setup you use for ssh via wifi. My assumption is: a) Jolla phone connected to wifi-router via wifi. b) Development host connected to same network, either also via wifi or via ethernet cable. i.e. not a peer-to-peer connection between the phone and de

Re: [SailfishDevel] Internationalization

2013-12-30 Thread Filip Kłębczyk
W dniu 30.12.2013 13:56, Joona Petrell pisze: Hi Flaviano, Jolla is working on a collaborative translation tool. Hi Joona, big thanks for communicating that fact to us! Regards, Filip ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list

Re: [SailfishDevel] jolla-mediaplayer cant handle file url for opening

2013-12-30 Thread Kari Pihkala
Hi Joona, how are you going to map mp4 media files? mp4 is a media container and can contain audio or video. If it has only audio track, it should go to jolla-mediaplayer, but if it has video, should it go to jolla-gallery (which plays videos)... The jolla-gallery app could be the preferred app,

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Graham Cobb
On 30/12/13 14:01, David Greaves wrote: >> 4. No way to interact with things in the browser e.g. save a picture. > > A long press does that (although some pages seem to prevent it). > We're aware that the discoverability of a long-press is poor. And that is a big issue, unfortunately. And it isn

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2013/12/30 David Greaves : > Thanks for taking the time to comment :) > > Some parts I can offer an opinion on ... > > On 30/12/13 13:02, Chris Walker wrote: [snip] >> 5. Power level and 2G/3G signal off page - only visible when moving >> between 2 panes. > > By design - you rarely need this inform

Re: [SailfishDevel] Impossible to SSH since update

2013-12-30 Thread David Greaves
On 30/12/13 14:02, Vincent B. wrote: > Since I upgraded to the last update, I can't ssh the device (no USB > interface created under Linux) anymore. Does anyone else has this problem ? Do you pick developer mode when you plugin the usb? Does dmesg or similar show an rndis_host? FWIW I always ssh

Re: [SailfishDevel] Impossible to SSH since update

2013-12-30 Thread Vincent B.
On 30/12/2013 15:02, Vincent B. wrote: > Since I upgraded to the last update, I can't ssh the device (no USB > interface created under Linux) anymore. Does anyone else has this problem ? > > Cheers, > Please ignore the message. It was the classical "update kernel but forget to reboot computer" t

[SailfishDevel] Impossible to SSH since update

2013-12-30 Thread Vincent B.
Since I upgraded to the last update, I can't ssh the device (no USB interface created under Linux) anymore. Does anyone else has this problem ? Cheers, Vincent ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread David Greaves
Thanks for taking the time to comment :) Some parts I can offer an opinion on ... On 30/12/13 13:02, Chris Walker wrote: > 1. Front screen - no labels on second screen (phone, messages, browser > and camera) except when dragged up slightly. [I can see no logic for > that whatsoever. It seems to r

[SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
I've had the phone for a week now and overall, I'm not impressed. It lacks some of the screen simplicity and clarity that my N900 has. An example is the text message screen. There is very little distinction between messages apart from a dull time/date. That seems to be a common theme across the va

Re: [SailfishDevel] jolla-mediaplayer cant handle file url for opening

2013-12-30 Thread Joona Petrell
Hi Andrey, > jolla-mediaplayer cant handle file url for opening Wrote a bug about it, hopefully fixed promptly. :) Thanks, Joona From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey Kozhevnikov [coderusin..

Re: [SailfishDevel] Internationalization

2013-12-30 Thread Joona Petrell
Hi Flaviano, Jolla is working on a collaborative translation tool. You can follow the progress in https://together.jolla.com/question/5367/collaborative-platform-to-translate-apps-os-in-other-languages Cheers, Joona From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.

Re: [SailfishDevel] Custom software input panel in QML

2013-12-30 Thread Pekka Vuorela
On Fri, 2013-12-27 at 19:39 +0600, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > Hello! > > Is there are way to override software input panel in qt5? > In harmattan i used inputContext.customSoftwareInputPanelComponent in > QML which replaces SoftwareInputPanel component You can set enableSoftwareInputPanel to fa

[SailfishDevel] Possible QtContacts 5.0 Bug

2013-12-30 Thread Matthias Barmeier
Hi, when creating a contact I am unable to store the guid field. All data is stored but not the guid. Ciao Matze ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Update] Changelog for SailfishOS update 2 (1.0.2.5)

2013-12-30 Thread belen barros pena
FWIW, my applications also updated before the OS, but I was able to upgrade the store-client package manually using Luca's instructions. After that the OS upgrade downloaded and installed without problems. Belén On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Henry Kwong wrote: > OK now it is showing 1.0.2.

Re: [SailfishDevel] Daemons in app store. And/or other ways of getting activated on event/schedule

2013-12-30 Thread Gabriel Böhme
+1 also interessting for me to have a daemon on start, because I want port my FotoShare app, also another idea is in my mind. :) Thanks, Gabriel. -- Von meinem Nokia N9 gesendet Marcin M. schrieb am 29.12.13 15:34: And for example phone speaker switcher as on Maemo (though it would be be