Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
Hi, This is excellent discussion about what could be done about improving the user experience. Now that we have together.jolla.com I suggest you move the concrete proposals there, since then a wider audience of users can discuss and upvote any proposals. We do obviously follow this list to

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Mikael Hermansson
whoops your are right. On Monday 30 December 2013 20.14.22 Chris Walker wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:20:17 +0100 > > Mikael Hermansson wrote: > > On Monday 30 December 2013 15.35.39 Graham Cobb wrote: > > > I need that information all the time -- a **lot** more > > > often than I actually int

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Mikael Hermansson
What you seems ask for is "don't turn off screen when /idle/ but make sure it show battrerystate/phone etc.."? eg in *homeview and lockscreen* that I could agree but not in applications its just would lock wrong in sailfishos IMHO. Regards Mikael On Monday 30 December 2013 18.07.03 Graham Cob

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
nt: Monday, December 30, 2013 10:22 PM To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:13:23 + Kimmo Lindholm wrote: > I have used Jolla now for over a month, and I have to say that for > first days I missed the battery level

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:13:23 + Kimmo Lindholm wrote: > I have used Jolla now for over a month, and I have to say that for > first days I missed the battery level etc things, but not anymore. I > like where they are, I know how I can "peek" them. > > I haven't drained the battery so low that

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 18:20:17 +0100 Mikael Hermansson wrote: > On Monday 30 December 2013 15.35.39 Graham Cobb wrote: > > > > I need that information all the time -- a **lot** more > > often than I actually interact with the phone. > > In every app you can just shortly "swipe left less than h

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 14:01:34 + David Greaves wrote: > Thanks for taking the time to comment :) > > Some parts I can offer an opinion on ... > > On 30/12/13 13:02, Chris Walker wrote: > > 1. Front screen - no labels on second screen (phone, messages, > > browser and camera) except when dragg

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 15:35:39 + Graham Cobb wrote: > On 30/12/13 14:01, David Greaves wrote: [snip] > > By design - you rarely need this information but it's trivially > > accessible. > > Poor decision. I need that information all the time -- a **lot** more > often than I actually interact w

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Gabriel Böhme
Tell me a harbour fitting solution, that prevents the screen from blanking! :) Also getting this information in a harbour conform way could be a bit difficult. ;-) But outside Jolla harbour it should not be a problem. Gabriel. -- Von meinem Nokia N9 gesendet marko.kosc...@tisno.de schr

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread marko . koschak
If you have this special need to see that information all the time on your screen why not writing an app that shows that info on screen. Enable that app to always keep the screen active without blanking it so it should do that job for you. Any volunteers? -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 30.12.1

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Kimmo Lindholm
.sailfishos.org] On Behalf Of Graham Cobb Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 8:07 PM To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens On 30/12/13 17:20, Mikael Hermansson wrote: > On Monday 30 December 2013 15.35.39 Graham Cobb wrote: >> I need that

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Graham Cobb
On 30/12/13 17:20, Mikael Hermansson wrote: > On Monday 30 December 2013 15.35.39 Graham Cobb wrote: >> I need that information all the time -- a **lot** more >> often than I actually interact with the phone. > In every app you can just shortly "swipe left less than half of screen" It doesn't work

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Mikael Hermansson
On Monday 30 December 2013 15.35.39 Graham Cobb wrote: > I need that information all the time -- a **lot** more > often than I actually interact with the phone. In every app you can just shortly "swipe left less than half of screen" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9YGtW274GI and you will see

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Graham Cobb
On 30/12/13 14:01, David Greaves wrote: >> 4. No way to interact with things in the browser e.g. save a picture. > > A long press does that (although some pages seem to prevent it). > We're aware that the discoverability of a long-press is poor. And that is a big issue, unfortunately. And it isn

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2013/12/30 David Greaves : > Thanks for taking the time to comment :) > > Some parts I can offer an opinion on ... > > On 30/12/13 13:02, Chris Walker wrote: [snip] >> 5. Power level and 2G/3G signal off page - only visible when moving >> between 2 panes. > > By design - you rarely need this inform

Re: [SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread David Greaves
Thanks for taking the time to comment :) Some parts I can offer an opinion on ... On 30/12/13 13:02, Chris Walker wrote: > 1. Front screen - no labels on second screen (phone, messages, browser > and camera) except when dragged up slightly. [I can see no logic for > that whatsoever. It seems to r

[SailfishDevel] No consistency across screens

2013-12-30 Thread Chris Walker
I've had the phone for a week now and overall, I'm not impressed. It lacks some of the screen simplicity and clarity that my N900 has. An example is the text message screen. There is very little distinction between messages apart from a dull time/date. That seems to be a common theme across the va