Re: [ovirt-devel] Firewalld migration.

2017-03-28 Thread Sven Kieske
On 28/03/17 17:58, Martin Sivak wrote:
> I actually like the radical option Didi mentioned -> using Ansible for
> the whole deploy flow. A simple host-deploy dir with playbooks (and
> builtin roles) is something most people would understand easily.
> 
> And it would even remove all the infrastructure burden from us, oVirt
> would not be the host management solution, Ansible would take the role
> and we would just invoke it when deploying a new host much like we do
> with host deploy now (except Ansible manages its own ssh connection
> too).

+1

but some drawback (actual ansible user here):

you in fact need _some_ libs on the managed hosts for certain ansible
features to work (e.g. if you want to respect selinux settings on the
host), so you would also need to provide these or list them as
prerequisites.

I understand ovirt can't just provide config mgmt solutions for every
tool out there (puppet, chef, ansible, saltstack, etc.).

the best approach would be, if it is pluggable, like foreman did this
with it's smart proxys and plugins:

https://theforeman.org/plugins/

so you could provide a plugin infrastructure and maybe write the ansible
integration yourself and the community can add their own
plugins like puppet or chef modules at will. If they mature enough
you could even ship those (optional).

I really think there would be some value in this, because many small
deployments use tools like puppet or ansible, while these do not scale
well for large environments, where you tend to have things like salt or
chef.

PS: if you want to annoy some users you could even declare a hard
dependency on foreman and use foreman for the host deployment (a tool
that's actually written for exact this scope), others might find this
higher integration nice. I'm not sure if I would like it or not.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Firewalld migration.

2017-03-28 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

just a quick note from the end user /sys admin/dev ops perspective:

wouldn't it suffice if you have rules for common config management
systems at hand / in the docs/ on github?

I like packages the most, that don't try to own the whole system.

just provide a saltstack formula and I'm fine ;)

just my 2 cent

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Re: [ovirt-devel] cloud-init metadata service

2017-03-01 Thread Sven Kieske
On 01/03/17 16:53, Marc Young wrote:
> What feels hacky is that I have so little information about the VM i'm
> running from within that I'd have a hard time crawling the API enough to
> know the information I got was about the VM I'm testing against. Per my
> later email the ID in /var/lib/cloud/data/instance-id is not the same that
> I'd need to hit the REST API to describe

I'm glad that this is this way.

From a security standpoint, this would be an information leak, which
enables third party users from inside the vm to attack the ovirt system.

So if you implement new features in this area, I would be very very careful.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] PatternFly upgrade - how to handle JS dependencies

2017-01-07 Thread Sven Kieske
On 06/01/17 18:45, Vojtech Szocs wrote:
> Today, we require `patternfly1` as both Engine RPM build dependency and the
> Engine devel. env. dependency.
> 
> To keep things simple, I'd like to propose the following approach:
> 
> - create oVirt specific package, e.g. `ovirt-patternfly`, hosted at Copr,
>   containing PatternFly + associated libraries (Bootstrap, jQuery) which
>   are intended *specifically* for use by oVirt UI (hence the ovirt prefix)
> 
> - discontinue maintenance of `patternfly1` package at Copr

afaik you're also requiring patternfly1 for ovirt-engine installation,
not just dev or build env?

if that is correct and your new "ovirt-patternfly" would superseed that
I'm afraid you would violate fedora and rhel/centos package guidelines
by throwing this all together in one package?

I hope I understood the scope of this correct, if not, just disregard my
comment.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [RFE] treat local NFS storage as localfs

2016-12-21 Thread Sven Kieske
On 21/12/16 11:44, Pavel Gashev wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'd like to introduce a RFE that allows to use a local storage in multi
> server environments https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1406412
> 
> Most servers have a local storage. Some servers have very reliable
> storages with hardware RAID controllers and battery units.
> 
> Example user cases:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/users@ovirt.org/msg36719.html
> https://www.mail-archive.com/users@ovirt.org/msg36772.html
> 
> The best way to use local storage in multi server "shared" datacenters
> is exporting it over NFS. Using NFS allows to move disks and VMs among
> servers.
> 
> In order to improve performance, disk I/O bound VMs can be pinned to 
> a host with local storage. However there still is a performance
> drawback of NFS layers. Treating a local NFS storage as a local storage
> improves performance for VMs pinned to host.
> 
> Currently setting up of NFS exports is out of scope of oVirt. However
> this would be a way to get rid of "Local/Shared" storage types of
> datacenter. So that all storages are shared, but local storages are
> used as local.
> 
> Any questions/comments are welcome.
> 
> Specifically I'd like to request for comment on potential data
> integrity issues during online VM or disk migration between NFS and
> localfs. 
> 

Just let me say that I really like this as an end user.

Hope this get's in. This seems less overhead than a complete
hyperconverged gluster setup.


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Re: [ovirt-devel] Request for oVirt Ansible modules testing feedback

2016-12-02 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

which ovirt versions will these ansible modules support?
only 4.x or also 3.6?

This looks very promising, because I'm already automating template
provisioning for ovirt via ansible (parts of it) and it would be cool
to also make the actual template creation of the vm part of the ansible
playbooks, but I can't switch over to ovirt 4 yet.

I will try to get some time to test this out, if it supports the older
version.


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Re: [ovirt-devel] performance improvements and gwt-rpc switch

2016-12-01 Thread Sven Kieske
On 01/12/16 16:27, Greg Sheremeta wrote:
> I'm working on 3.6 now. My expectation is that we can speed it up a bit,
> but it'll never be as fast as 4.0.6/4.1. Unless we decide to commit time to
> it, in which case we've proven that it can be done, it's just a matter of
> resources.

Sorry for getting a little offtopic, but I'm really confused:

It was stated somewhere that 3.6.7 will be the last release, and there
has not been an official 3.6. release since then, but otoh there seems
to be ongoing work on 3.6, see:

https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/projects/ovirt-engine,branches

there are branches for 3.6.8 and 3.6.9 already.

Will there be future 3.6 releases, or not?

Or is this just work for downstream RHEV which will get support
much longer?

It would be nice if someone could clarify this.

Personally I really would like to see additional 3.6.z releases,
especially with these performance improvements around the webui.

Thanks and sorry for hijacking this thread.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] VDSM changes Linux memory dirty ratios - why?

2016-11-30 Thread Sven Kieske
On 30/11/16 09:13, Yaniv Kaul wrote:
> Thanks, but it really makes no sense to me. The direct IO by the VMs is
> going to a different storage than what the host is writing to, in most
> cases.
> The host would write to the local disk, the VMs - to a shared storage,
> across NFS or block layer or so. Moreover, their IO is not buffered.
> There is very little IO coming from the host itself, generally (I hope
> so!).
> 
> Partially unrelated - the trend today is actually to put NOOP on the VMs -
> the deadline is quite meaningless, as the host scheduler will reschedule
> anyway as it see fits.
> Most likely it is also a deadline scheduler (but could be NOOP as well if
> it's an all flash array, for example). Therefore there is no reason for
> anything but simple NOOP on the VMs themselves.
> 
> In short, I think it's an outdated decision that perhaps should be
> revisited. Not urgent, though.
> Y.

I know it's not the most cared about usecase
but I'd like to add that this might affect local storage
domains, which I happen to use a lot, and maybe others too.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] VDSM changes Linux memory dirty ratios - why?

2016-11-30 Thread Sven Kieske
On 30/11/16 08:48, Martin Polednik wrote:
> It's not really irrelevant, the host still uses disk cache. Anyway,
> there is BZ[1] with a presentation[2] that (imho reasonably) states:
> 
> "Reduce dirty page limits in KVM host to allow
> direct I/O writer VMs to compete successfully
> with buffered writer processes for storage
> access"
> 
> I wonder why virtual-host tuned profile doesn't contain these values:
> 
> $ grep vm.dirty /usr/lib/tuned/virtual-host/tuned.conf
> vm.dirty_background_ratio = 5
> 
> [1]https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740887
> [2]http://perf1.lab.bos.redhat.com/bengland/laptop/rhev/rhev-vm-rsptime.pdf

Could you share [2] with the wider community? This would be awesome!
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Re: [ovirt-devel] [RFC] Communicating within the community [was Re: [ovirt-users] I wrote an oVirt thing]

2016-11-29 Thread Sven Kieske
On 29/11/16 15:54, Martin Sivak wrote:
> I actually checked the oVirt 4.0.0 and 4.0.5 release notes and I do
> not see anything mentioning ovirt-cli or REST v3 deprecation. This
> will (removal of RESTv3 support) affect the optimizer and quite
> possibly even hosted engine setup.

Hi,

this seems to indicate that even core ovirt devs do not
know about every feature which gets deprecated.

Maybe this could be solved by sandro's suggestion
to at least create an BZ for each deprecation.

I would agree with that, but also like to propose
an alternative way, because at the stage of bug creation
the deprecation is already set in stone and can't be discussed further
(I fear).

So my proposal would be to mail to the devel list at least
the proposal: "I/we want to get rid of feature/implementation X, use Z
instead".

This would give developers and users enough time to engage with the
community, replacing dependencies or start a discussion if removal can't
be done later.

A clear deprecation guideline would also be helpful, I guess.

Something like: Features will get marked as deprecated in release X.Y
and removed in X.Y+2 (or whatever number you might chose).

This would allow for much better preparation in the community and lead
to less unpleasant surprises.

HTH & keep up the good work!

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Heads-up: moving Libvirt xml creation to the engine

2016-11-23 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

very first question which comes to mind
is: will vdsm hooks which alter the libvirt xml
still work?

I believe this is a much used feature
and if it would not work anymore out of the box
this would be a huge pain in upgrading existing systems.

furthermore I don't really see the benfits when you generate
the xml in engine:

you still need to alter it in vdsm as you write, to fill in host
specific things like storagepaths anyway, meaning you have to maintain
twice the codebase _and_ coordinate between the two of them, so nothing
goes wrong if one project changes something in the xml.

but this are just my 2 cent :-)


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Re: [ovirt-devel] Alternatives to automatically move bugs to MODIFIED

2016-08-17 Thread Sven Kieske
On 17/08/16 13:25, Nir Soffer wrote:
> Only the owner of the bug knows if the all the required patches are merged
> and backported to the correct repositories.

Why not just set needinfo on bug assignee when all linked patches
are merged? this would ensure that missing patches get uploaded
asap and once this is done and all patches are merged you can clear
needinfo and move the bug to modified manually?

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[ovirt-devel] problem setting up bonding via rest in ovirt 3.6.6.2

2016-08-09 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

I'd like to setup host network in the following way:

I have 4 interfaces: eth0, eno1, eno2, eno3

ovirtmgmt network resides on eth0 and is working.

Now I want to setup a bonding with the slave interfaces
eno2 and eno3 via the hosts "setupnetworks" function:

URL:

https://engine-fqdn/api/hosts/9cdcc85b-dd87-4dcf-9275-b993ee5b5e9c/nics/setupnetworks

Request:

{
"modified_bonds": {
"host_nic": [{
"name": "bond0",
"bonding": {
"options": {
"option": [{
"name": "mode",
"value": "1"
}, {
"name": "miimon",
"value": "100"
}]
},
"slaves": {
"host_nic": [{
"name": "eno2"
}, {
"name": "eno3"
}]
}
}
}]
}
}

Response from ovirt-engine:



Incomplete parameters
Action [hostNics] required for setupNetworks


When I look at the rsdl docs this seems perfectly fine.


I tried google with this error condition but it didn't return anything
useful unfortunately.

Your help would be greatly appreciated.

The official RH docs also do not mention anything else:

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization/3.6/html-single/REST_API_Guide/index.html#Multiple_Network_Setup_Action

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Virtualization/3.6/html-single/REST_API_Guide/index.html#Bonded_Interfaces

Also this tool doesn't seem to mention anything else:

https://jhernand.fedorapeople.org/ovirt-api-explorer/#/services/host/methods/setup_networks

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Killing XMLRPC on master

2016-06-22 Thread Sven Kieske
On 22/06/16 10:39, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
> bypassing vdsm for mom things is a good idea, but we need to make sure we’re 
> not killing the rest of the system

Wouldn't that mean you need the whole authentication and communication
code duplicated to mom? or is it already in there?

from a sysadmin perspective I would like to keep the needed ports
to open between engine and virt-host on a minimum.


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Re: [ovirt-devel] oVirt 3.6.7 Fifth Release Candidate is now available for testing

2016-06-22 Thread Sven Kieske
On 22/06/16 09:50, Yaniv Kaul wrote:
> It's harder to do for minor releases, as they don't have distinct target
> milestones as major versions do.
> For example, 4.0 has 4.0.0-rc1, 4.0.0-rc2, 4.0.0-rc3, etc.
> 3.6.7 doesn't have that.
> Y.
But there are no special categories for the 4.0.0 rcs as well?

https://www.ovirt.org/release/4.0.0/

There used to be tracker bugs for every RC IIRC, from which
you could extract at least the blocking bugs for each RC.



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Re: [ovirt-devel] oVirt 3.6.7 Fifth Release Candidate is now available for testing

2016-06-21 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

while I appreciate all the work
that has been done for this release, please
let me add some critic:

on the old website it was pretty easy to track
down what exactly changed between each release
candidate in terms of closed BZs etc.

This is not possible anymore.

Are there any plans to restore the previous
functionality?

Are there technical reasons this information
is not mentioned in the release notes anymore?

kind regards

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Re: [ovirt-devel] oVirt 4.0 and fedora support

2016-06-21 Thread Sven Kieske
On 21/06/16 09:19, Yedidyah Bar David wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> oVirt 4.0 should be released real soon now, and also Fedora 24.
> 
> Currently, there are several different issues with oVirt on fedora 23,
> both on engine side and on hosts.
> 
> We currently intend to release 4.0 without official support for
> fedora, and hope to manage to stabilize things enough after Fedora 24
> is out, so that oVirt 4.0.1 will support it.
> 
> Comments are welcome.
> 
> Best,
> 

You should announce this on the users list.

In the past there where some users actually using fedora for deployments.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] oVirt 4.0 Nightly repo

2016-06-16 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

first thanks for this in depth and long
explanation. I'm actually already aware
of what you just explained.

But I'm a long time user, I guess, so I had
plenty of time to get used to all this.

But you didn't factor in other important things
like: which datacenter or cluster version does include
feature X (e.g. support for el6.6, el6.7 el7.0, etc).

this is further complicated by the fact that someone packages
vdsm for el6epel, but apparently in a backwards incompatible
version for older ovirt releases.

e.g. the current version in epel for el6 is:

vdsm-4.16.20-1.git3a90f62.el6.x86_64.rpm

so you have to blacklist this if you run an older
engine and happen to need some other packages from epel.

I honestly don't know really why vdsm is included in epel
at all. In order to use it, you need an ovirt-engine with
the necessary repository anyway, which contains vdsm in
the correct version, so why would you want to pull vdsm from
epel?

I don't want to complain a lot, but I hope in the future
we'll have fewer backwards incompatible changes, so newer
vdsm can talk to older engines (even if not all features are supported).

My general impression is, that ovirt becomes
more stable, the more releases come out.

So again: keep up the good work! :-)

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Re: [ovirt-devel] oVirt 4.0 Nightly repo

2016-06-16 Thread Sven Kieske
On 14/06/16 17:34, Vojtech Szocs wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> ovirt-engine-dashboard is currently built from master as well.
> 
> We should probably create a stable branch, e.g. ovirt-engine-dashboard-1.0.

Hi,

speaking as an end user (mostly):

please not yet-another-versioning in the great ovirt project.

I'm already having severe issues tracking which engine versions works
with which vdsm version, let alone track which datacenter and cluster
version within each engine version works with which vdsm version and
which features are (un)supported.

Please don't add another different version to the already far to complex
equation.

I'd suggest you take the same version number as the supported
ovirt-engine, you also should adjust release cycles of all the
subprojects where possible (I know that doesn't work always).

this would make every users life make so much less painful.

keep up the great work!

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Add a local drive to Ovirt

2016-04-18 Thread Sven Kieske
On 18.04.2016 17:07, Bryan Hughes wrote:
> All,
> 
> I am trying to add a physical drive to Ovirt.  For instance, my physical 
> machine has 3 extra hard drives attached and I want to add it directly 
> instead of through Gluster or iSCSI.  Is this possible?
> 
> I tried using POSIX by creating an xfs filesystem on /dev/sde1 and tried to 
> add that as a POSIX datastore but it fails in trying to mount the filesystem.
> 
> Any help is appreciated.


I guess you're looking for this feature:

http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/storage/mixed-types-data-center/

however you need to do this via a shared DC type as mentioned in the
above link.

Some bugs tracking this feature are mentioned here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1134318

However I'm not quite sure if this is fully implemented yet..

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Re: [ovirt-devel] v2v: download/stream disks via Libvirt API

2016-04-07 Thread Sven Kieske
On 07/04/16 10:14, Shahar Havivi wrote:
> Any suggestions/notes?
>   
>  
>  
Very cool feature, but
I have a question:

Would it be possible to tunnel this through ssh or other
TCP Connections over the network?

Because in many cases you don't want to stream
sensible data via unencrypted connections or you just have ssh
access to special servers.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Ovirt API Import OVA

2016-03-11 Thread Sven Kieske
On 10/03/16 15:24, Juan Hernández wrote:
> On 03/10/2016 02:25 PM, Sven Kieske wrote:
>> On 07/03/16 09:47, Sven Kieske wrote:
>>> On 06/03/16 22:04, Arik Hadas wrote:
>>>> Actually it depends on the content of the OVA file. If the OVA
>>>> file was generated by vSphere (export VM) then since oVirt 3.6
>>>> you can import it via the webadmin (virtual machines tab ->
>>>> import -> select OVA as the source). Note that you'll need to
>>>> copy the OVA to one of your hosts that is installed with
>>>> virt-v2v for that. This action is missing in the API.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> is there already a bug tracking this missing feature for the rest
>>> api or should I create one?
>>
>> Ping?
>>
> 
> As far as I know there is no such RFE, please open it.
> 
Here you go:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1316854

PS: It took me a while to find the rest api component (under
ovirt-engine product).

In my opinion it should be selectable on the "product" level, just like
the SDKs. What do you think?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Ovirt API Import OVA

2016-03-10 Thread Sven Kieske
On 07/03/16 09:47, Sven Kieske wrote:
> On 06/03/16 22:04, Arik Hadas wrote:
>> Actually it depends on the content of the OVA file.
>> If the OVA file was generated by vSphere (export VM) then since oVirt 3.6 
>> you can import it via the webadmin (virtual machines tab -> import -> select 
>> OVA as the source).
>> Note that you'll need to copy the OVA to one of your hosts that is installed 
>> with virt-v2v for that.
>> This action is missing in the API.
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> is there already a bug tracking this missing feature for the rest api
> or should I create one?

Ping?


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Re: [ovirt-devel] Ovirt API Import OVA

2016-03-07 Thread Sven Kieske
On 06/03/16 22:04, Arik Hadas wrote:
> Actually it depends on the content of the OVA file.
> If the OVA file was generated by vSphere (export VM) then since oVirt 3.6 you 
> can import it via the webadmin (virtual machines tab -> import -> select OVA 
> as the source).
> Note that you'll need to copy the OVA to one of your hosts that is installed 
> with virt-v2v for that.
> This action is missing in the API.


Hi,

is there already a bug tracking this missing feature for the rest api
or should I create one?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ANN] oVirt 3.6.3 Fourth Release Candidate is now available for testing

2016-03-01 Thread Sven Kieske
On 01.03.2016 10:32, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
> No it isn't intentional. a bug in the migration tool dropped all bz
> references ( https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/issues/98 )
> 
> 
> 
>> I'm talking about the "bugs fixed" section.
>>
>> furthermore it is not anymore updated what exactly was fixed in the last
>> RC etc.
>>
>> I found the old format way more helpful.
>>
> 
> I agree. I'm trying to fix the release notes for today GA.


Thank you very much, it's much appreciated.

Can't wait to test the GA in my dev system, but this will likely be
not this week, because I got higher priorities from my mgmt.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ANN] oVirt 3.6.3 Fourth Release Candidate is now available for testing

2016-02-29 Thread Sven Kieske
On 24.02.2016 15:09, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
> The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability
> of the Fourth Release Candidate of oVirt 3.6.3 for testing, as of February
> 24th, 2016
> 
> This release is available now for Fedora 22,
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.7, CentOS Linux 6.7 (or similar) and
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux >= 7.2, CentOS Linux >= 7.2 (or similar).
> 
> This release supports Hypervisor Hosts running
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux >= 7.2, CentOS Linux >= 7.2 (or similar) and
> Fedora 22.
> Highly experimental support for Debian 8.3 Jessie has been added too.
> 
> This release candidate includes updated packages for:
> 
>- ovirt-engine
> 
> 
>- vdsm
> 
> 
>- ovirt-hosted-engine-ha
> 
> 
>- ovirt-hosted-engine-setup
> 
> 
> 
> This release of oVirt 3.6.3 includes numerous bug fixes.
> See the release notes [1] for an initial list of the new features and bugs
> fixed.
> 
> Please refer to release notes [1] for Installation / Upgrade instructions.
> A new oVirt Live ISO will be available soon [2].
> 
> Please note that mirrors[3] may need usually one day before being
> synchronized.
> 
> * Read more about the oVirt 3.6.3 release highlights:
> http://www.ovirt.org/release/3.6.3/
> * Get more oVirt Project updates on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ovirt
> * Read more about oVirt Project community events:
> http://www.ovirt.org/Upcoming_events
> 
> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/release/3.6.3/

Is it intentional, that all links to BZ have disappeared from the
release notes (afaik they where there on the old wiki site, but it's
late, so maybe I'm wrong)?

I'm talking about the "bugs fixed" section.

furthermore it is not anymore updated what exactly was fixed in the last
RC etc.

I found the old format way more helpful.

Thanks

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [vdsm][virt] what's new in virt (20160216)

2016-02-17 Thread Sven Kieske
On 16/02/16 15:35, Francesco Romani wrote:
> * Francesco: the `convirt' module mostly (support containers with
> libvirt API) plus cleanup

Hi,

I assume this is a self written module for ovirt/libvirt to manage
containers? Is convirt the real name of it?

Because there seems to be another open source software "convirt" for
kvm/xen management?

https://www.convirture.com/

https://www.convirture.com/products_opensource.php

maybe rename it, to avoid trademark conflicts?



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Re: [ovirt-devel] outdated quickstart guide

2016-01-29 Thread Sven Kieske
On 29/01/16 16:17, Nir Soffer wrote:
> This is a wiki, you can update it.
yes I know, i even have an account, but just no time atm.
so I figured maybe someone can do it quicker.

I also noticed that el 7.2  does not get mentioned as a supported
platform, just 7.1.

I will edit all places when I find the time, maybe next week :)

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[ovirt-devel] outdated quickstart guide

2016-01-29 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

I'm just installing ovirt 3.6.2 in a new dev setup
and noticed that the quickstart guide still just
mentions 3.4 and 3.5:

https://www.ovirt.org/Quick_Start_Guide#Install_oVirt_Engine_.28Fedora_.2F_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_.2F_CentOS.29

maybe this can get adjusted?

PS: Any ETA for ovirt 3.6.3  yet?
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Re: [ovirt-devel] Changing the name of VDSM in oVirt 4.0.

2016-01-26 Thread Sven Kieske
On 26/01/16 16:29, Yaniv Dary wrote:
> Hi, I wanted to bring this up to get feedback on this proposed
> change. VDSM doesn't align to other project under the oVirt
> umbrella like ovirt-engine, ovirt-node, ovirt-guest-agent etc..
> 
> I suggest for ease of use and tracking we change the versioning to
> align to the engine (4.0.0 in oVirt 4.0 GA) to make it easy to know
> which version was in which release and also change the package
> naming to something like ovirt-host-manager\ovirt-host-agent.
> 
> What do you think on this? What do you think the name should be?


Hi,

just commenting from the end user perspective:

version align: +1
ovirt-prefix: +1

new name(suffix): host-agent:
don't know, I think it crashes a little with ovirt-guest-agent
(already used).

This might confuse some users, or what do you thing?

maybe ovirt-host-manager suites it more (to differentiate between vdsm
and guest-agent)?

I personally don't like the work "manager" for a software. in the end
it's your decision and I could also get along with ovirt-host-agent.


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Re: [ovirt-devel] [RFE - doc] Repositories not listed on all-in-one feature page

2015-11-18 Thread Sven Kieske
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Hi,

just a side note to get a little more attention
to this topic (sorry for thread hijacking):

as I just learned the AIO deployment is already
deprecated in 3.6. according to:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1282798

but as already mentioned there, I do not
find any information regarding this decision in the
release notes.

there still seem to be some obstacles to reshape ovirt
into a true open source project where decisions are
made through the community in a transparent fashion.

see also the mass closing of bugs marked as "RFE"
without further explanation.


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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] [QE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 status

2015-10-04 Thread Sven Kieske
On 02.10.2015 13:19, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
> Annoys automated QA, but not seen in manual checks. I'm not sure it
> should block ovirt-3.6.0. I'd love to hear if a lot of ovirt users use
> automated scripts with no retries to setup host networking.

Yes, of course I do.

And I don't see a reason to retry a failed automatic setup
automatically. this way lies madness.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] VM won't start because of -incoming flag after upgrading to alpha-2

2015-07-08 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 08/07/15 09:26, Francesco Romani wrote:
> ... AFAIR, in the patchset which is part of qemu-kvm-ev, a lot of 
> devices are disabled for security/safety/auditing reasons, and
> new, stable machines are added (rhel*).

Thanks Franceso and Michal for clearing this up.
I really thought that the only technical difference
is live migration support, I didn't know that
there where further tweaks to qemu-kvm-ev.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [!!Mass Mail]Re: VM won't start because of -incoming flag after upgrading to alpha-2

2015-07-08 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 07/07/15 13:36, Francesco Romani wrote:
> but if you suspended on qemu and resumed on qemu-kvm-ev, or vice
> versa, then I'm not sure this flow is supported (AFAIR, it isn't).

I wonder why that should not be supported, afaik the only
difference between qemu-kvm and qemu-kvm-ev is the enabled
flag to allow live migrations.

I can't see why this would introduce a flag of "-incoming"
on the qemu command line.

is there a technical reason why this is not supported?
or is this just a "you moved from binary name a to b, so it's not
supported" case, no matter the almost 100% exact same content
within those binarys?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Shared gluster storage domain for templates

2015-07-04 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 03.07.2015 22:31, Christopher Pereira wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to setup a gluster data storage domain exclusively for 
> templates (read only) and share it among different geo distributed
> ovirt data centers. I believe this is a common requirement. Do you
> know if there is a clean/efficient way to do this?
> 
> My experiment:
> 
> I geo-replicated the templates storage domain in order to keep a
> local copy on each data center for faster new VM instantiation or
> thin template provisioning. The problem I faced is it's not
> possible to import a replicated storage domain when the original
> Storage Domain UUID is already registered in the same Engine
> installation. A workarround was to detach the original SD (from
> Data Center 1) and attach the replicated SD (on Data Center 2)...or
> use another Engine installation. This works, but still requires to
> detach and reattach the storage domain.
> 
> Is there anyway to copy a storage domain or change its UUID? I
> guess I can change the Storage Domain UUID (dirname and 
> dom_md/metadata), but I'm afraid of the multiple references inside
> the binary file 'dom_md/ids'.
> 
> BTW, using a gluster replica-n volume seems to be the cleanest
> solution because this way Engine would only be showing one single
> templates storage domain (ideal). The only reason I didn't go this
> way is because it is not designed between geo distributed data
> networks.

This is somehow related to my old bug report:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1130090

In short: ovirt has some places where it wants a "name"
to be unique instead of using the UUID.

also it want's this to be unique system wide, instead of
a more sane and flexible approach like data center wide, or
cluster wide unqiueness.

It would also be a nice RFE to have read only storage
which can be attached to multiple DCs at the same time.

This already works for ISO domains, so you
should be able to add the functionality to also
use this as a template source.

But maybe all this pain will go away when there are
no more storage domains.
btw will this feature make it for 3.6 or later? I know
decommission of master storage domain is suited for 3.6:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1185830

kind regards

Sven

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[ovirt-devel] trouble with already existing mac address in database

2015-07-03 Thread Sven Kieske
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Hi,

jhernand was so kind to resolve this for me and asked
for a mail to devel, because some people might be interested in it.
so  here it is:

situation: you removed a vm somewhat dirty from ovirt by deleting
it in the database, now you want to reuse it's mac address, but ovirt
won't let you do it, because "Mac address is already in use."

At first I thought I had not deleted all entries regarding this
vm, but even when I did a dump of the whole engine db and grepped
for the mac it didn't yield any results, so the mac was not in the
db anymore, yet ovirt complained.

what helped, was a restart of the engine service, because ovirt
seems to cache some values in ram, like macs.

so in case you got trouble like this, just restart the service.

I wonder if it might be worth an RFE, so engine checks from
time to time if values in ram are also in the db and if not
cleans the ram?

thanks again to jhernand for the (somewhat obvious) solution!

site note:
ovirt-engine is a really fast restarting service, pretty cool.
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Re: [ovirt-devel] Devel Digest, Vol 14, Issue 21

2015-06-09 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 09/06/15 08:13, Adolfo wrote:
> Allon, Amit, can we retarget bug 1110798 to the next 3.5.z?

Looking at the BZ and the gerrit commit you can see
the code is already merged in the 3.5 branch since May 17.

So it should get included in the next 3.5 release.

HTH

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Automated builds and releases

2015-06-05 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 05.06.2015 14:06, David Caro wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone!
> 
> 
> In an effort to improve the project workflow and ease the
> maintenance and improve the quality of the project releases I want
> to propose start working towards automated builds and releases, the
> main ideas are the following:
> 
> 
> * Stop building differently for release and non-release: - Building
> only once, testing what you build and release what you test - Don't
> use two different version strings, one for testing and one for 
> release
> 
> * Automate the build process, and the release process, directly
> getting the code from the repos (no manual build tarballs)
> 
> * Adopt semantic versioning, it's a lot more meaningful than the
> current scheme and fits very well with the above points
> 
> 
> 
> This will ease and lower the maintenance and the extra work
> required by maintainers, release engineers (sandro) and infra
> itself by making releases as easy as hitting a button at any time.
> That will allow us to lower the time features and fixes get to the
> users, and deliver packages and builds that have passed through all
> the tests we have, instead of rebuilding on another env, at another
> time, by someone else, and passing only manual testing.
> 
> 
> wdyt?
> 

a big +1 from a community member, not so much a coder :-)

keep up the good work!

kind regards

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Re: [ovirt-devel] API for executing commands on node?

2015-06-03 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 03.06.2015 08:12, Christopher Pereira wrote:
> Thanks Oved, but I need to script and trigger the remote commands
> from a centralized script (not through the UI). In this case, I
> guess my best option would be to use SSH + keys.

why don't you use something like saltstack, chef, ansible, or puppet?

do you use ovirt-node based images or good old EL6/7 ?

HTH

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Mixed local and shared storage

2015-05-08 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 08/05/15 13:31, David Caro wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone!
> 
> 
> There's a use case for the $subject that is really favorable for us
> (CI guys) and I want to ask you if it's possible, if it's viable
> and if not already there if I should open a rfe.
> 
> The case is when you want to spin up vms from a template, but use
> them only once and remove them afterwards (for example, running
> tests), if you had the option to have a shared storage where you
> store the templates, and then a local storage where you spin up the
> vms, that allows really fast (local) storage for the vms and avoids
> you having to setup a clustered storage (gluster, etc) for those
> vms that do not need any of those features.
> 
> 
> So is that already possible? (For other threads and what I've
> tested seems not) Is that viable? Can it be implemented on ovirt?
> 

I guess you talk about this feature:

http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Mixed_Types_Data_Center

but imho the feature page is out of date

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] oVirt HA.

2015-04-30 Thread Sven Kieske
On 30/04/15 15:14, Dan Yasny wrote:
> No doubt there, however, that's not *just* HA any longer :)

sorry for being a nitpick and to quote wikipedia but:

"There are three principles of high availability engineering. They are
1. Elimination of single points of failure. This means adding redundancy
to the system so that failure of a component does not mean failure of
the entire system.[..]"

e.g active/active clusters ;)

I promise this will be my last mail to this thread :-)

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] oVirt HA.

2015-04-29 Thread Sven Kieske


On 29/04/15 21:53, Dan Yasny wrote:
> There is always room for improvement, but think about it: ever since 
> SolidICE, there has been a demand to minimize the amount of hardware used in 
> a minimalistic setup, thus the hosted engine project. And now that we have 
> it, all of a sudden, we need to provide a way to make multiple engines work 
> in active/passive mode? If that capability is provided, I'm sure a new demand 
> will arise, asking for active/active engines, infinitely scalable, and so on.

of course you wan't active/active clusters for an enterprise product,
rather sooner than later
> 
> The question really is, where the line is drawn. The engine downtime can be a 
> few minutes, it's not that critical in setups of hundreds of hosts. oVirt's 
> raison d'etre is to make VMs run, everything else is just plumbing around 
> that.
I disagree:

ovirt is a provider of critical infrastructure
(vms and their management) for modern it business.

imagine a large organisation just using ovirt for their virtualization,
with lots of different departments which at will can spawn their own
vms, maybe even from different countrys with different time zones (just
like red hat ;) ).

of course, if just the engine service is down for some reason and you
can just restart it with an outage of some seconds, or maybe a minute -
fine.

but everything above a minute could become critical for large orgs
relying on the ability to spawn vms at any given time.

or imagine critical HA vms running on ovirt:
you can't migrate them, when the engine is not running.
you might not even want a downtime of a single second for them, that's
why you implemented things like live migration in the first place.

the bottom line is:
if you manage critical infrastructure, the tools to manage
this infrastructure have to be as reliable as the infrastructure itself.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] oVirt HA.

2015-04-29 Thread Sven Kieske


On 28/04/15 16:20, Dan Yasny wrote:
> HA does not mean multiple running instances of the same service. It means
> if the service is gone, it will automatically be restored on a working
> server.

That is a pretty narrow definition of HA, which is not shared by
most parts of the community (and the world), leading to much confusion
of users on this very ML.

HA in general means your service downtime gets minimized, today mostly
realized through load balancing and clustering software services.

just restarting a service (in this case ovirt-engine vm) on a different
host is not what todays user expect under the term "HA" imho.

in theory it should be possible as a design goal to make multiple
ovirt-engine share one remote data base (remote database support is
already there).

I think this would be a huge feature for ovirt, but also requires quite
some design and coding to be done.

thus adding the devel list.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Agenda for today oVirt Weekly Sync

2015-04-15 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

I'd like to ask about the status of my bug, as
I didn't get any answer via BZ yet:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1156115

What I'm concerned about is, that the
supplied patch doesn't fix the actual reported
problem, but I'm not 100% sure, so it would be
cool if someone more familiar with the code could
reply.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [vdsm] vdsm hosts clock sync

2015-04-07 Thread Sven Kieske
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OT:

you should not use "vdsm-de...@lists.fedorahosted.org"
any more.
use devel@ovirt.org instead.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] vdsm hosts clock sync

2015-04-07 Thread Sven Kieske
On 07/04/15 10:55, David Jaša wrote:
> See my RFE: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1162588

It would be so cool if you would bother to open such RFEs
at the upstream project (ovirt), instead of RHEV, so the
whole community can be a part of this process.

I don't get notifications for these RHEV downstream RFEs
but I get them for ovirt.

Thanks

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Re: [ovirt-devel] el6 future in ovirt-3.6

2015-03-17 Thread Sven Kieske
+1

also take a look at the results of
the user survey:
most users use el6
so even the discussion about "dropping support"
will make people uncertain how long
they will be able to use el6.
me included.

On 16/03/15 23:19, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> I cannot understand these conflicting statements.
> 
> if any component of vdsm needs to run on el6, el6 support cannot be dropped, 
> this [among other] includes python version and other infra modules, packaging 
> included.
> 
> a possible sensible solution is to continue maintaining 3.5 for gluster on 
> el6 with possibly new features, and have master free of el6 for all 
> dependencies.
> 
> dropping el6 from 3.6 should have been early in development cycle to allow 
> proper testing. the gluster issue should have resolved even before the 3.6 
> cycle.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] adding new paths to iscsi data storage domains

2015-03-16 Thread Sven Kieske
On 15/03/15 15:38, Paul Dyer wrote:
> Hope this helps explain my setup.   I am not sure how to file a bug.   Is
> this done on bugzilla or somewhere else?

Yes, here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=oVirt

HTH

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [VDSM] dynamic tuning of logging

2015-03-05 Thread Sven Kieske
On 04/03/15 18:24, Nir Soffer wrote:
> vdsClient -s 0 setLogLevel 20

Does this survive a restart of the vdsm service?

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[ovirt-devel] Current status of numa integration?

2015-02-20 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

what is the exact current state of numa integration in currently
released ovirt versions (3.5.1)? and what are the plans for 3.5.z
and 3.6?

the wiki page is fairly outdated and could need an update:

http://www.ovirt.org/Features/NUMA_and_Virtual_NUMA

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [VDSM] about improved libvirt-python bindings

2015-02-18 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

as far as I understand this would make it easier to implement/use
upstreams(libvirt) existing python-bindings in ovirt?

in this case, I think this is a huge improvement.


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Re: [ovirt-devel] Using travis yaml files to specify dependencies and tests

2015-02-03 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 03/02/15 14:04, David Caro wrote:
> As long as all the projects use the same path and name for them, I
> have no issue with putting them somewhere else.
> 
> I don't think jenkins is a good name, but automation is a nice
> one.
> 
> build is too common, used by a lot of different tools, better avoid
> it.
> 
> So can we agree to use automation directory?

assuming this is about the "bash scripts" I would just like to notice
that you should keep them posix compatible so they can be used on
different platforms too.

Thanks

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Re: [ovirt-devel] oVirt 3.6 Feature: Cumulative Network Usage Statistics

2015-01-28 Thread Sven Kieske
On 28/01/15 13:20, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
> I wonder if Vdsm should keep the
> last tx/rx used by this VM so Engine can collect it, and charge the VM
> properly.

From the user perspective:
yes! nice feature!

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Move bugs to ON_QA based on snapshot builds?

2015-01-28 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

just a quick question:

Would this imply that you need to create
separate bugs to track these "solved on master" bugs
for the next release?

So you know the fix/feature really hit's the release?

Or how would you track that?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [engine-devel] Turn Blank template into defaults

2015-01-22 Thread Sven Kieske


On 22/01/15 11:28, Tomas Jelinek wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have started to work on a new feature[1] which will make it possible to 
> edit the Blank template.
> The proposal is available on the feature page[2]
> 
> Any comments are more than welcome,
> Tomas
> 
> [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1130174
> [2]: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Blank_to_Defaults

Well you can't just rename the blank template to "default".
You would break any upgrade from 3.5. if you did.
At least you could not run any pre 3.6. cluster level
vms on this 3.6. engine.

Is it intended to break compatibility in this release
or not?

3.5 cluster level vms (e.g. new created vms) need
afaik the "blank" template. how do you want to handle that?

could you instead add this "default" template just for
cluster/dc level 3.6, so just "3.6" vms use it?

In general I think this is a much anticipated and needed
feature, so I'm looking forward to the 3.6 release! :)

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Gluster Volume Snapshots - Feature review

2015-01-13 Thread Sven Kieske
Do you really want to call this entity "schedule"?

I find this somehow confusing as there is already a "scheduling"
component in ovirt, which does different stuff.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ENGINE] Question about refresh parameter of GetConfigurationValueQuery

2015-01-09 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 09.01.2015 14:00, Alexander Wels wrote:
> If you can find all locations that assume the value is true and
> don't explicitly set it, and you change them to explicitly set
> them, then there should be no problem. Otherwise things that are
> expected to refresh the session will no longer do so, which will
> result in some unpredictable behavior.

I smell breakage here.

> On Friday, January 09, 2015 04:52:15 AM Yair Zaslavsky wrote:
>> Hi all, Can anyone think of an issue with changing the default
>> value of the refresh parameter to false for the query mentioned
>> at $Subject?


You should at least provide a reason why you want to change it, imho.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] 3.5 live merge findings and mysteries [was Re: Simple way to activate live merge in FC20 cluster]

2015-01-04 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 15.12.2014 08:33, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Gianluca Cecchi
>  wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Adam Litke 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, please see below for more details.
>>> 
>>> tl; dr;  Live merge works on oVirt-3.5.0 with Fedora 20 hosts
>>> that are using qemu and libvirt packages from the virt-preview
>>> repo. No other configuration is supported yet.  We aim to have
>>> support for RHEL7.1 and later and built-in support for Fedora
>>> 21.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> Sorry... pressed return too quick..
> 
> Understand me, please. My note was about Release Notes page
> misleading in respect with features' set and newcomers... but also
> frequent users too
> 
> At http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5_Release_Notes#Live_Merge  ones
> reads:
> 
> " Live Merge If an image has one or more snapshots, oVirt 3.5's
> merge command will combine the data of one volume into another.
> Live merges can be performed with data is pulled from one snapshot
> into another snapshot. The engine can merge multiple disks at the
> same time and each merge can independently fail or succeed in each
> operation. "
> 
> I think you have to mention that it is a restricted use case for
> now... and specify that it works only for Fedora 20 and in that
> case you have to manually modify the repo definition to install the
> qemu packages from virt-preview to get the feature.

This still is not fixed!

I can already see the bugreports coming in, claiming live merge does
not work, because the release notes are very misleading!

Did nobody got the time to fix this?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Feature review: Cluster parameters override

2014-12-18 Thread Sven Kieske


On 18/12/14 13:16, Itamar Heim wrote:
> 3.5 cluster uses -m rhel6.5 for either rhel 6 or rhel 7 host.
> this is about using a -m rhel7.0 mode

Thanks for the clarification.

What would be the difference inside the vm?
Different emulated hardware?
Other setting?

Where can I look up the machine levels and their specific
meaning (any link to a doc)?
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Re: [ovirt-devel] Feature review: Cluster parameters override

2014-12-18 Thread Sven Kieske


On 18/12/14 12:34, Itamar Heim wrote:
> we never tested 3.5 on rhel7 machine type.
Sorry, what?

http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5.1_Release_Notes#Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_7_and_CentOS_7_Support

How can you support it in the next release when
it was never tested?


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Re: [ovirt-devel] VDSM sync meeting minutes December 9th, 2014

2014-12-10 Thread Sven Kieske
On 09/12/14 17:52, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
>  # REQUIRED_FOR: engine-3.0

This seems odd to me, as it's not really
correct, engine-3.5 would be more correct, wouldn't it?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Creating a new gerrit flag

2014-12-09 Thread Sven Kieske


On 09/12/14 13:47, Oved Ourfali wrote:
> safe up to 95% or so.

You just made up that number.
I don't really understand why you would want
to downgrade your code quality by circumventing tests.

Maybe someone can elaborate on this a bit?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Important change in UI plugins REST API integration

2014-12-03 Thread Sven Kieske

Thanks for your clarification!

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Important change in UI plugins REST API integration

2014-12-02 Thread Sven Kieske


On 01/12/14 20:26, Vojtech Szocs wrote:
> In other words, usability of REST session ID is now strictly
> scoped to GUI user being authenticated. If the user logs in,
> (always) new REST session ID will be passed to all UI plugins.
> If the user logs out, REST session ID will not work anymore.

What if I use just REST for logging in and doing something
without any GUI interaction at all?

this reads a little like: you always need an open web gui
to be able to use REST, which does not make sense at all.

So I guess I'm misreading this?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [VDSM][JSON] jsonrpc coding/encoding performance on RHEL/Centos 6

2014-11-20 Thread Sven Kieske


On 20/11/14 12:18, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
> RHEV cannot depend on EPEL. If a package is not in RHEL, RHEV must
> consume it, which is something that's not worth doing in this case
> (where there's not functional benefit).

As I said: it already does that:

an excerpt from the latest ovirt-release35-001-1.noarch.rpm:
in /./usr/share/ovirt-release35/ovirt-el6-deps.repo
you find:

[ovirt-3.5-epel]
name=Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 6 - $basearch
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/6/$basearch
mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=epel-6&arch=$basearch
failovermethod=priority
enabled=1
includepkgs=epel-release,python-uinput,puppet,python-lockfile,python-cpopen,python-ordereddict,python-pthreading,python-inotify,python-argparse,novnc,python-ply,python-kitchen,python-daemon,python-websockify,livecd-tools,spice-html5,mom,python-IPy,python-ioprocess,ioprocess,rubygem-rgen
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/RPM-GPG-KEY-EPEL-6


So why can engine depend on epel and vdsm can not?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [VDSM][JSON] jsonrpc coding/encoding performance on RHEL/Centos 6

2014-11-20 Thread Sven Kieske
On 19/11/14 18:36, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
> We've learned the hard way that this was not the case..
> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/35354

Why don't you just require this one package from epel than?
epel is included in EL7, you just need to activate it.

Furthermore, some engine packages are also just available
via epel, so I see no reason to not require epel for vdsm too?


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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] Ubuntu/Debian support?

2014-11-17 Thread Sven Kieske


On 17/11/14 08:41, Itamar Heim wrote:
> 
> 1) Is this still an issue?
Yes of course, or is it implemented yet?

> 2) Can we afford to dilute the focus we have as it is hard enough to
>stabilize the currently supported distro's? is it worth the
>potential impact?
In general: Software which supports multiple operating systems/distros
tends to be more stable, because some bugs just get found on specific
platforms.
the general ovirt technology is available "everywhere" (TM): java & python
> 3) Would it have maintainers catering to it so it won't be left behind
>/ delay development?
this is a question for devel@ovirt.org (CC'ed ;) )
> 4) Why bother with host support, ovirt-node can be used?
My impression is, that most users don't use ovirt-node, because
this project has not enough dev power and lacks certain stuff
> 5) Why bother with engine support, a virtual appliance or a docker
>image could be used?
docker is inherently insecure (a famous red hatter said: it's like
download random code from the internet and run it as root), so docker
is no option today, imho.
> 6) if we do it, should we focus on Ubuntu or Debian distro first?
well, the general rule of thumb is: if it runs on debian it runs on
ubuntu. I see way more debian than ubuntu servers, but for modern
deployments this changes. my personal opinion is, that ubuntu sucks
as a server os.
> 7) if we do it, should we focus on host or engine first?
atm you are focusing host, there are some bugs open for that
and it's planned for 3.6. (that's what I read at least)

General note:

Imho ovirt would greatly benefit from more supported distros.
Not just debian and ubuntu, but you have to start somewhere.
you can attract many devs, which just don't use el/fedora.

furthermore, the basic technology runs on any linux distribution:
java and python

so these are "just" integration issues (path to configfiles,
different init systems, packaging not in rpm, but deb, etc.)

This is still a huge effort, but I guess canonical and various
debian developers would maybe join the effort to make ovirt
work on their platform.

my 2 cent
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Re: [ovirt-devel] Unstable network connections after installing vdsm

2014-11-11 Thread Sven Kieske
On 11/11/14 07:35, Antoni Segura Puimedon wrote:
> Yes. It is a bug in /sbin/dhclient-script
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1116004

Hi,

this bug is marked as private, would it be possible
to make it visible to the general public?

Thanks!

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Thoughts on modularization

2014-11-05 Thread Sven Kieske


On 05/11/14 17:07, Vojtech Szocs wrote:
> This way, you'd have one "core" module, providing most general
> functionality/abstractions. Then you'd have more specific modules,
> plugged into "core" module's API etc. In other words, hierarchy of
> modules. This is essentially modularization taken to extreme :)

Welcome to dependency hell or circular dependencies etc.

would you like to code your own dependency resolver?

I like modularization, but you can overengineer everything.

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[ovirt-devel] [SCALE][RFC] ksmd bound to one core

2014-11-04 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

currently ksmd is a single process
and is thus bound to one core.

This leads to some scaling problems such as:

If you got a lot of vms on one host with huge amounts
of ram you can observe that the cpu usage by ksmd
goes easily to 100%.

I wonder if ksmd could not be split up
in child/worker threads, thus enabling higher density
of vms on one host.

or can this just be tweaked by altering values in
/etc/ksmtuned.conf ?

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[ovirt-devel] usage of the foreman / limitations of puppet

2014-10-28 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

I just wanted to ask if there are some plans to also
support other automation tools like salt, chef, cfengine
or others, because puppet is imho not a good tool for
large environments performance wise.

I noticed there is some support for saltstack in foreman.
So this seems to be a first step to extend the support
for different configuration management tools.

I know RH seems to favor puppet (it's used in the new
satellite product) but I don't think it scales well
(talking about thousands of hosts to manage).

Are there any opinions or plans within the ovirt community
regarding this topic?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Reminder: [ovirt-users] [QE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.6.0 status - release criteria

2014-10-28 Thread Sven Kieske
On 28/10/14 11:17, Eyal Edri wrote:
> i didn't see any date for stable branch creation, or it's called by a 
> different name?
> also, worth maybe doing an internal discussion on ovirt vs rhev 3.6 release, 
> in terms of milestones, qe verification on upstream, etc...

imho you are mixing up release criteria and release schedule.

criteria are not time based.

notice that release criteria inherit that there must be a testcase and
a person / automatism to test each criteria before the release.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] Beginner

2014-10-24 Thread Sven Kieske


On 24/10/14 16:37, navya sri nizamkari wrote:
> Hello, i am looking for bugs I can fix.I am new to this. Can somebody help
> me out?
> 
> Thank you.

I guess devel list can help you more :)
write to devel@ovirt.org (cc'ed)

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Re: [ovirt-devel] how (inefficient) does vdsm import sparse disks in local storage(file based) data domain?

2014-10-23 Thread Sven Kieske


On 23/10/14 15:51, Nir Soffer wrote:
> We have this patch for next version:
> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/33355

Awesome!

>>
>> So here's my proposal (if I do not have any mistakes in the above):
>>
>> at least make a:
>> tar -cpSvf disk.tar /path/to/disk
>> and than "dd" this over the network, because tar _can_ handle sparse
>> files.
>>
>> Of course any other more efficient mechanism would be okay too.
>>
>> If my observation is right, and the project think it's worth
>> to implement such a thing I would create an RFE for this
> 
> Please do


Here it is:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1156115


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[ovirt-devel] how (inefficient) does vdsm import sparse disks in local storage(file based) data domain?

2014-10-23 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

I might be totally mistaken, so please tell me first if I understand
the process:

when vdsm imports a template from an export domain to local storage,
according to my "ps" output, vdsm copies sparse templates using "dd":

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Re: [ovirt-devel] CDI limited capabilities in jboss-as-7.1.1

2014-10-07 Thread Sven Kieske


On 06/10/14 19:23, Yevgeny Zaspitsky wrote:
> Recently I started using CDI (thanks to Roy Golan contribution) in bll
> module code and figured the limitation described in
> (https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-4567). That was solved 1.5 years
> ago in jboss-as-7.2. Currently we use jboss-as-7.1.1.
> Is there a good reason for not moving to jboss-as-7.2 or any newer version?

Yes, it's not in EL6 repos afaik

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ANN] oVirt 3.5.0 Fourth Release Candidate is now available for testing

2014-10-03 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 02.10.2014 16:47, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:

> [1] http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5_Release_Notes

Am I wrong or do the release notes
still large parts of the "features" section?
Where there no new features for
"Virt", "SLA & Scheduling", "Storage" or "UX"?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [CentOS-devel] Atomic Host Definition [Discussion Draft]

2014-10-03 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 03.10.2014 11:51, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> ovirt natively supports docker, you can deploy docker instances
> just as you would VM's into the ovirt managed hosts.
> 
> is that what you are looking for ?
AFAIK this is still WIP?

see: http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Docker_Integration

I don't know of any released code in ovirt 3.5
which supports docker yet. I'm pretty informed
about ovirt development so I would be surprised
to hear this is already implemented without
reading about it on the ovirt-devel list.

But this gets OT for centos-devel, I guess.

Maybe someone from ovirt-devel can shed some
light on this topic?

kind regards

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [CentOS-devel] Atomic Host Definition [Discussion Draft]

2014-10-03 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 02.10.2014 22:53, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> * Deliver images for bare metal and important cloud/virtualization 
> platforms (AWS, GCE, KVM, OpenStack).

Hi,

I do very well know it
is not supported yet, but
would you mind adding oVirt (ovirt.org)
to this list?

It would be huge to have docker
support there.

Also CC'ed ovirt-devel, maybe
there is some interest.

kind regards

Sven
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Re: [ovirt-devel] can't clone vm from export domain via rest/json

2014-09-26 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

for documentation purpose:

jhernand helped me working around this issue.

all details and the workaround are found at:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147011

this is still a problem in latest master, maybe vdsm people (Dan?)
should take a look at it.

Thanks for the very fast help!
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[ovirt-devel] can't clone vm from export domain via rest/json

2014-09-26 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

I need some devel power here:

this is on ovirt 3.3.3 el6 (yes I know, I need to upgrade..)

error while cloning a vm from export to local storage data domain:

  POST
https://REDACTED/api/storagedomains/e89fdbcb-cb51-42b7-b42c-7f4f0ec1f580/vms/fc0f82f3-fb34-429b-aa52-e8276cdc49c0/import
{

"storageDomain":{"id":"15679d40-0f20-4a0e-9880-eb5795cb8d1e","name":"LOCAL_DATA_DOMAIN_NAME"},
  "cluster":{"id":"e65dc5f5-61e6-4d17-a5bf-33c677d129c7"},
  "vm":{"name":"VM_NAME_1"},
"clone":true
}



ANSWER:
{
"storageDomain":{
"name":"LOCAL_DATA_DOMAIN_NAME",
"id":"15679d40-0f20-4a0e-9880-eb5795cb8d1e"
},
"cluster":{
"id":"e65dc5f5-61e6-4d17-a5bf-33c677d129c7"
},
"vm":{
"name":"VM_NAME_2"
},
"clone":true,
"status":{
"state":"failed"
},
"fault":{
"reason":"Operation Failed",
"detail":"[action type failed import clone not collapsed]"
}
}


why does it fail?

this vm was exported from this storage domain onto the export
domain and should then get re-imported as another vm-name

is this because of lacking/inconsistent json support in 3.3.z?

until now we were able to reverse engineer all needed functionality
via json.


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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] [OVIRT-3.5-TEST-DAY-3] Optaplanner

2014-09-25 Thread Sven Kieske


On 22/09/14 14:04, Martin Sivak wrote:
> It is the only solution when the remote service does not support SSL. We 
> might include SSL in some later version, but not for 3.5.

What is the problem which prevents inclusion of ssl support?
Is this "just" work that needs to be done or are there any
obstacles/bugs/ design flaws which need to get fixed?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] Building vdsm within Fedora

2014-09-24 Thread Sven Kieske


On 24/09/14 10:57, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
> Well, since the -rhev package is now available in 3.4, 3.5 and master repos 
> it shouldn't be a PITA anymore.

Thanks for the clarification :)

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Building vdsm within Fedora

2014-09-24 Thread Sven Kieske


On 24/09/14 09:13, Federico Simoncelli wrote:
> You probably missed the first part "we were using qemu-kvm/qemu-img in
> the spec file". In that case you won't fail in any requirement.
> 
> Basically the question is: was there any problem on centos6 before
> committing http://gerrit.ovirt.org/31214 ?

Of course there was a problem, please follow the link in this very
commit to the according bugzilla:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1127763

In short: you can not use live snapshots without this updated spec file.

And it's a PITA to install this package by hand, you must track
it's versions yourself etc pp. you basically lose all the stuff
a proper spec file gives you.


PS: I also don't get the "we want to get vdsm in every distribution"
a) it was never in any distro, it was in epel, which is a third party
repository anyway, so you can just provide it via ovirt repo imho.
b) no one packages vdsm for debian, ubuntu, gentoo, arch, suse,
$nameyourdistro or I completely missed it, so why treat fedora
in a special way? Don't misunderstand me, it would be cool if you
have packages for every distro, or even bsd based stuff, but I think
this is still a long way.
c) will anyone use vdsm without ovirt? is this even possible?
so imho you need ovirt repos anyway?



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Re: [ovirt-devel] [QE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.5.0 status

2014-09-19 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

as the release criteria[1]
mentions:
"MUST: Have updated quick start guide available"
I'd suggest [2] as a blocker.

[1]http://www.ovirt.org/OVirt_3.5_release-management#Release_Criteria_.28WIP.29
[2]https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1054303

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[ovirt-devel] Package vdsm-4.13.4-0.el6.x86_64.rpm is not signed again in 3.3.5. repo

2014-09-17 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

well the message in the topic already explains what is wrong.

This happend already once some days ago and dcaro fixed it, but somehow
this occurs again.

It would be kind of someone could fix it.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [QE][ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.5.0 status

2014-09-17 Thread Sven Kieske
I still think this should block the release.
I don't know why it is targeted to 3.5.1.

This was working in prior releases (custom script via cloud-init)
but it does not in 3.5. so it is a clear regression.

On 17/09/14 13:46, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
> 1138314   virtNEW Fail to start vm with payload.



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Re: [ovirt-devel] Stable branch gerrit hook and Related-To: bug

2014-09-17 Thread Sven Kieske
Why should an incomplete, thus non working feature get merged?
Do you also merge incomplete bugfixes?

One commit should contain one feature or one bugfix, imho?
I know this can be difficult sometimes, but still, at least
in the master branch this rule should get enforced, maybe create
a staging branch for incomplete features?

On 16/09/14 14:53, Martin Sivak wrote:
> it would mean that feature cannot be merged before it is completed.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] mom-0.4.2 released (Karma requested)

2014-09-12 Thread Sven Kieske
I see no new branch created at
http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/admin/projects/mom,branches ?

This is all still in master branch.

Also a changelog would be awesome to have (there seem to be no huge
changes since 0.4.1).

Thanks for the new release anyway!

On 12/09/14 17:12, Adam Litke wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have released mom-0.4.2 and submitted updates for f20[1], el6[2],
> and epel7[3].  If you have a spare cycle, please install this new
> version from the updates-testing repository and add a comment in the
> fedora updates system.  This will help expedite the rollout of this
> update.  Thanks!
> 
> [1]
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-10757/mom-0.4.2-1.fc20
> [2] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mom-0.4.2-1.el6
> [3] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mom-0.4.2-1.el7
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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ATTN] Changing messages with variable placeholders

2014-09-11 Thread Sven Kieske


On 11/09/14 15:04, Einav Cohen wrote:
> you don't need to worry about the correctness of the non-English 
> messages that you are changing; this will be taken care of in the 
> translation cycle that will follow your patch. you just need to 
> do the minimal changes necessary (remove placeholders / append 
> placeholders) so that build errors will not occur. 

so before these changes get released in an official GA build
there must be another translation cycle?

as far as I understand this occured during composition of 3.5
and as far as I know there is no new translation cycle planned for 3.5?

This would mean you would break translations in 3.5, wouldn't it?

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Moving forward our frontend stack

2014-09-01 Thread Sven Kieske
Well I really think this is a very bad idea.
I'm pretty sure I don't need to introduce
the concept of checksums to anybody on this list
and why this is done.

You must decide whether you want the correct code
or not.
If you decide to disable it on one repo, what is the
justification to not disable it on another/all repos/projects?

just my 2 cents :)

Am 29.08.2014 16:54, schrieb Vojtech Szocs:
> Well, I meant to avoid disabling checksum checking globally.
> If we can selectively disable checksum checking for specific
> Maven artifacts like "gwtp" etc. then we could do that..

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Urgent BUG: renaming of template fails

2014-08-18 Thread Sven Kieske
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1130090

Am 18.08.2014 11:53, schrieb Eli Mesika:
> If you think that this is important please issue a RFE for it.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Urgent BUG: renaming of template fails

2014-08-14 Thread Sven Kieske


Am 14.08.2014 13:12, schrieb Maor Lipchuk:
> Hi Sven,
> 
> I tried changing template name on my setup (based on latest master) and it 
> worked.
> Can you please share the output of the following psql command on your engine 
> DB: 
> SELECT vm_guid, vm_name, entity_type, description  from vm_static where 
> vm_name = 'template1'
> 

Hi Maor,

it seems you did not test properly.
You need 2 DCs with a template in each datacenter.
rename one of them to match the other.

It will fail, quoting Nir from my Bugzilla entry:

> This is how the system works. Changing is nice to
> have feature, as it does not effect much the usage of the system.
> We have the same issue with cluster names, vm names - most names are >
unique globally.
> I also find this annoying, and practically create names with
> dc-cluser prefixes to avoid this.

I really don't understand the logic behind making these names
unique on a global level.

There are many easily thought use cases where you want the
same template name in different DCs, now I will have to juggle
with dc-prefixes.

I really hope this gets fixed up for 3.6

Thanks for your fast replies anyway.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Urgent BUG: renaming of template fails

2014-08-14 Thread Sven Kieske
BZ created:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1130090

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Re: [ovirt-devel] Urgent BUG: renaming of template fails

2014-08-14 Thread Sven Kieske
Here is some log output to help track this down (from engine.log):

2014-08-14 10:28:35,528 WARN
[org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.job.ExecutionMessageDirector]
(ajp--127.0.0.1-8702-22) [399284fd] The message key UpdateVmTemplate is
missing from bundles/ExecutionMessages
2014-08-14 10:28:35,554 WARN
[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.UpdateVmTemplateCommand]
(ajp--127.0.0.1-8702-22) [399284fd] CanDoAction of action
UpdateVmTemplate failed. Reasons:VAR__ACTION__UPDATE,VAR__TYPE__VM_TEMP
LATE,ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_NAME_ALREADY_USED
2014-08-14 10:28:35,568 ERROR
[org.ovirt.engine.api.restapi.resource.AbstractBackendResource]
(ajp--127.0.0.1-8702-22) Operation Failed: [Cannot edit Template. The
Template name is already in use, please choose
a unique name and try again.]



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[ovirt-devel] Urgent BUG: renaming of template fails

2014-08-14 Thread Sven Kieske
Hi,

this is my test setup:

DC1 with local storage, some templates, e.g. "template1"
DC2 with local storage, some templates, e.g. "template2"

what I want to do:

rename "template2" to "template1" in DC 2

actual results:

[Cannot edit Template. The Template name is already in use, please
choose a unique name and try again.]

This fails via GUI and via REST api (GUI blocks the form, you
can't click "ok").

expected results:
Template Names should at the very least just be unique for
one DC, and not for the whole engine.

Strictly speaking even this is not needed as engine uses
UUIDs to identify templates, but I agree that it might
be handier for end users to just allow a template name
once per datacenter.

This occurs on ovirt-engine 3.3.3-2.el6
but I fear this is still present in current 3.5 RC
and even master.

So please, can somebody confirm this bug so I can
open a BZ for this?

Thanks.

PS: the storage architecture type should not
matter, I just added it for completeness sake.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [QA] [ACTION REQUIRED] oVirt 3.5.0 RC2 status

2014-08-12 Thread Sven Kieske
Do you block this stuff then in a sane way on EL6
as such new features aren't available there?

Am 12.08.2014 18:06, schrieb Adam Litke:
> These needn't block oVirt 3.5.  The majority of low level
> functionality is provided by qemu-2.1 and libvirt-1.2.8 which are both
> hitting the virt-preview repo now (or are already there).  There are
> still some outstanding bugs (1041569, and 1102881) and these should
> appear in the next releases of qemu and libvirt (first week of Sept
> I'm told).  The above two bugs should only impact block storage
> domains.

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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] oVirt 3.5 test day 2 results

2014-07-31 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 30.07.2014 18:14, Simone Tiraboschi wrote:
> A previous attempt used ssh and scp to do all automatically but it
> was rejected being judged not so secure.
So who judged it?
Maybe he/she could share some
reasoning how this could be more
insecure and more error prone
than a clumsy do-this-by-hand-setup ?
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Re: [ovirt-devel] oVirt 3.5 beta2 - results

2014-07-30 Thread Sven Kieske
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On 29.07.2014 17:18, Piotr Kliczewski wrote:
> I tested gluster related features:
> 
> 
> Nagios Integration ->
> http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Nagios_Integration#HOW_TO

Hi,

just as a quick heads up:

I'd suggest to rename this feature
from "Nagios Integration"
to "Gluster Nagios Integration"

as the former might lead to users
thinking you have a general nagios integration.

regards

Sven
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Re: [ovirt-devel] UI plugins - talking with Engine via JSESSIONID now requires separate request header

2014-07-15 Thread Sven Kieske
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Just a few questions from someone
who relies on the rest api:

Background:
I use rest not for UI plugins
but for general management stuff
(basically all ovirt operations which are possible via rest)
I don't use the cookie based session management
but pure rest (stateless).

Questions:
1. Will stateless rest sessions always be supported
or do you plan to change this in the future to just allow
cookie based access (so no real rest api, as
it's not stateless anymore)?

2. Does this change just affect UI plugins or also
other rest api usages?
If it does affect other usages, which one?
Just cookie based operations?

thanks in advance

Sven
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