xfs install on RedHat machine

2003-10-15 Thread Marcel . Stegehuis
I have installed the minimal set of packages with RedHat 9.0 and have installed XFree86 xfs later using rpm. XFS is not running after reboot while it is in init.d and rc.d[12345]. Anyone know what causes this behaviour. Regards, Marcel Stegehuis ___

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-15 Thread Måns Rullgård
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been trying to find specs for implementing hardware RENDER support for my graphics card. I have the specs for the card. The problem is that nobody seems to know what the various RENDER functions in a driver are supposed to do, or what the structs

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-15 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Alexander Shopov wrote: Quite frankly... random uninformed people making claims that X is slow, without any shred of a clue or properly deduced scientifically measured and reproduceable instrumented data, will always be out there. We can't stop people from spreading

Re: xfs install on RedHat machine

2003-10-15 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:10:01 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: xfs install on RedHat machine I have installed the minimal set of packages with

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-15 Thread Alexander Shopov
The _only_ answer that matters is the technical/scientific one. End users opinions about how things Technically and scientifically you are right and I agree with you, but not everyone has the patience for the scientific side. I as sorry as you are about this thing, but some magic some times

Re: Problem with ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LW

2003-10-15 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-10-14 at 10:33, Dimitris S. Economou wrote: Hi all, I have recently bought a Compaq evo N610C laptop and I'm encountering a problem with the graphics card adapter. The display is flickering producing a distortion in the displayed image. While the display is in this destorted

Re: xfs install on RedHat machine

2003-10-15 Thread Chris Burghart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed the minimal set of packages with RedHat 9.0 and have installed XFree86 xfs later using rpm. XFS is not running after reboot while it is in init.d and rc.d[12345]. Anyone know what causes this behaviour. Regards, Marcel Stegehuis I saw a similar problem

Re: How to render multiple cursors?

2003-10-15 Thread Grant Wallace
--- Kieran O'Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why would you want more than one pointer? and more importantly how would it be used? I wonder if you are not making life more difficult than it needs to be. Actually the more I think about the more I really want to know the answer to thoes

Re: How to render multiple cursors?

2003-10-15 Thread david mattatall
On Thursday 09 October 2003 08:03, Kieran O'Sullivan wrote: Why would you want more than one pointer? and more importantly how would it be used? 1. It's quite conciveable that two cursors could be used to perform two actions at the same time, I mean most of us use multitasking OS'es so the

Re: xfs install on RedHat machine

2003-10-15 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Chris Burghart wrote: I saw a similar problem recently; essentially, the init.d/xfs script was being run, but no xfs got started and there was no clue in the logs about what was failing. Then I realized that my root filesystem was full. After I cleaned up some space and

Re: How to render multiple cursors?

2003-10-15 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, david mattatall wrote: Why would you want more than one pointer? and more importantly how would it be used? 1. It's quite conciveable that two cursors could be used to perform two actions at the same time, I mean most of us use multitasking OS'es so the cursors should

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-15 Thread Craig Ringer
What is funny however, is that any alternative to X, is more or less functionally useless until someone writes an X server for it for most general purpose computing. Well, it would really only /require/ an xlib-compatable interface, but everybody seems to port XFree86 to run as a client to

VIA's Savage Drivers

2003-10-15 Thread Tim Roberts
Some months ago, VIA released an XFree86 Savage driver in source form that included, among other things, a DRI driver and XvMC support. Has that code been integrated into the XFree86 source tree? Will it make XFree86 4.4? Or is it still waiting in limbo for someone to do the integration? -- -

Re: You suggest an upgrade, eh?

2003-10-15 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
CR Benchmarking is a bit like academic tests. It proves that you're good CR at the benchmark, not at the task. You can't cheat at a benchmark. (To be a little bit less cryptical: benchmarks are all we've got to make sure we're making sense in our design and implementation. In the right hands,

Re: Export symbol lists on Linux (was Re: RFC Marking private symbols in XFree86 shared libraries as private)

2003-10-15 Thread David Dawes
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 09:50:07PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: I'd say it would be better to reuse *-def.cpp files (didn't know something like that existed). I've preprocessed all *-def.cpp files included in XFree86/xc/lib, gathered all symbols currently exported from XFree86 shared libraries,

Kernel Module? On second thought...

2003-10-15 Thread Raymond Jennings
Oh my! Judging from the large number of *flames* I got for suggesting it, I guess a kernel module for X is not such a good idea after all. Oh well, I hope it was at least worth brainstorming. XFree86 *might* wish to consider a modulette to cover things that userland CAN'T do, like AGP, DMA,

Re: Kernel Module? On second thought...

2003-10-15 Thread Tim Roberts
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 20:38:44 +, Raymond Jennings wrote: Oh well, I hope it was at least worth brainstorming. Brainstorming is (almost) never a bad idea. XFree86 *might* wish to consider a modulette to cover things that userland CAN'T do, like AGP, DMA, IRQ, and so on. AGP stuff can be

Re: VIA's Savage Drivers

2003-10-15 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 09:50:40AM -0700, Tim Roberts wrote: Some months ago, VIA released an XFree86 Savage driver in source form that included, among other things, a DRI driver and XvMC support. Has that code been integrated into the XFree86 source tree? Will it make XFree86 4.4? Or is

RE: Kernel Module? On second thought... plus OT: Flame fest

2003-10-15 Thread Daniel Chemko
Does the notion of a kernel module have ANY merit at all? Or was the idea complete garbage? Obviously your idea isn't complete rubbish, but you are preaching to a very particular crowd, so you need to make sure you're ideas aren't contrary to their personal biases, sad isn't it? Ok, now that

Re: More details about a kernel module (by GPfault)

2003-10-15 Thread Raymond Jennings
Hmm... An IOCTL shouldn't have any more overhead than reading or writing to a file... I'd think that the kernel is lightning fast at *dispatching* the IOCTL. Handling it is something else entirely and depends on how long the device driver decides to take. It's device specific. I don't

Re: Forgiviness! I repent!

2003-10-15 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Raymond Jennings wrote: Oh great XFree86 spirits! Please forgive my transgressions! I have sinned in ignorance! I repent! (:D) It was I who suggested the kernel module. It has since been considered heresy. My apologies. There's nothing wrong with kernel modules,

Re: More details about a kernel module (by GPfault)

2003-10-15 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On the scale of the speed of graphics operations, IOCTLs are very expensive. Compare how many IOCTLs a second you can do compared to things like triangle rates of modern graphics hardware (which are over a 100 Million a second). Mark. On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Raymond

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: VIA's Savage Drivers

2003-10-15 Thread Alan Cox
On Mer, 2003-10-15 at 21:07, Alex Deucher wrote: the 3D drvier needs to be updated to mesa 5.x. Not much work has been done on it and I think there are some issues with the 2D driver. There's no way it will make it into 4.4.0. the current code is on a branch in DRI cvs. If you are

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: VIA's Savage Drivers

2003-10-15 Thread Alex Deucher
Alan, that's the CLE266/via driver, right? the savage driver is still barely touched as far as I know. there was some talk of shelving the old savage_1-0-0 branch and starting a new one on savage_1-0-1 since the old one needed so many changes to get synced up to the trunk. Alex --- Alan Cox