Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without device paths

2020-01-14 Thread Laszlo Ersek
On 01/14/20 11:34, Vitaly Cheptsov via Groups.Io wrote:

> - ConnectControllers
> ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellDriver1CommandsLib/Connect.c
> 
> This one is more complex, as it supports explicitly connecting specified 
> controllers, however, for connecting all controllers it locates handles with 
> gEfiDevicePathProtocolGuid. I.e. exactly what we ask.

This surprised me, but I think you are right.

Interestingly, the logic goes back to historical commit 4ba49616416a
("Adding Driver1 profile commands to the UEFI Shell 2.0.", 2010-11-12).

Laszlo


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Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without device paths

2020-01-14 Thread Vitaly Cheptsov via Groups.Io
In addition to my previous letter I have to mention a couple more newly 
discovered details.

1. UEFI Shell (ShellPkg) actually has 3 functions dedicated to connecting 
controllers and essentially doing the same thing:

- ConnectAllEfi
ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c

This one locates all handles and runs connect on them. It is the one we 
mentioned in the bug.

- LoadPciRomConnectAllDriversToAllControllers
ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellDebug1CommandsLib/LoadPciRom.c

This one is similar to ConnectAllEfi. The only difference is that it 
additionally checks for Ctrl+C via ShellGetExecutionBreakFlag.

- ConnectControllers
ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellDriver1CommandsLib/Connect.c

This one is more complex, as it supports explicitly connecting specified 
controllers, however, for connecting all controllers it locates handles with 
gEfiDevicePathProtocolGuid. I.e. exactly what we ask. I believe that all these 
functions should behave the same way in correspondence to 
gBS->ConnectController at the very least, and most likely there should be a 
library responsible for connection and disconnection.

2. We also checked EFI 1.1 Shell, and confirmed that it consistently has checks 
for device path presence before running connect on the handle[1][2]. This makes 
us believe that our proposal is not really a firmware bug, but rather a 
limitation of the legacy specification.

Considering all these discoveries, we believe our suggested change is legit 
depending on the minimum supported UEFI version. Therefore we propose 
submitting a ControllerConnection library with 5 functions:

- ConnectController
- DisconnectController
- GetAllControllers
- ConnectAllControllers
- DisconnectAllControllers

Adopting it throughout the code will let the distribitor to be responsible for 
choosing what is right for his applications (or firmwares).

Best wishes,
Vitaly

[1] 
https://sourceforge.net/p/efi-shell/code/64/tree/trunk/Shell/LoadPciRom/LoadPciRom.c#l528
[2] 
https://sourceforge.net/p/efi-shell/code/64/tree/trunk/Shell/load/load.c#l312


> 14 янв. 2020 г., в 11:36, vit9696  написал(а):
> 
> Ray,
> 
> We are quite reluctant to have patches in EDK II for a large amount of widely 
> adopted firmwares. Patches eventually break and require maintenance cost, and 
> currently we are trying to get rid of them all. We believe that EDK II Shell 
> is supposed to work on real world platforms and not only the ones that 
> theoretically support the specification. It is always hard to adopt changes 
> based on third-party bugs, and we very well understand your concern, yet it 
> is something we have to do to stay beneficial to the end user.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Vitaly
> 
> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 05:53, Ni, Ray  <mailto:ray...@intel.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Vitaly,
>> 
>> I still have concern to modify the EDKII code to workaround a firmware bug.
>> 
>> Can you just change in your local version?
>> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ray
>> 
>>
>> From: devel@edk2.groups.io  On Behalf Of Vitaly 
>> Cheptsov via Groups.Io
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:47 AM
>> To: Laszlo Ersek ; devel@edk2.groups.io; Ni, Ray 
>> ; Gao, Zhichao 
>> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles 
>> without device paths
>> 
>>
>> Thanks all for your input,
>>
>> These explanations seem sufficient to us that it is not a good idea to 
>> change the behaviour for everyone. Even so, we still need this to be 
>> configurable in some way, as having to patch EDK II is impracticable.
>>
>> We believe there are three possible routes to approach this problem:
>>
>> Introduce a separate ControllerConnectionLib library for this function. 
>> While it is small, we found several places in our code that need to call it 
>> beyond UEFI Shell. This way different implementations could be used 
>> depending on the chosen library.
>> Introduce a ConnectRequiresDevicePath PCD, which will choose the preferred 
>> logic.
>> Introduce a -dp Shell argument for affected commands the way Lazslo 
>> suggested.
>>
>> We believe either route or a combination of multiple routes have their own 
>> benefits, and would suggest either going with 1+2 or with 3. Any approach is 
>> fine for us.
>>
>> We will submit V2 of the patch after hearing the opinions.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Vitaly
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 20:55, Laszlo Ersek > <mailto:ler...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 01/13/20 12:56, Ni, Ray wrote:
>> > We shouldn't assume that a DriverBindingStart() can only start on a handle 
>> > with device path installed. DevicePath protocol is just a special protocol.
>> 

Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without device paths

2020-01-14 Thread Vitaly Cheptsov via Groups.Io
Ray,

We are quite reluctant to have patches in EDK II for a large amount of widely 
adopted firmwares. Patches eventually break and require maintenance cost, and 
currently we are trying to get rid of them all. We believe that EDK II Shell is 
supposed to work on real world platforms and not only the ones that 
theoretically support the specification. It is always hard to adopt changes 
based on third-party bugs, and we very well understand your concern, yet it is 
something we have to do to stay beneficial to the end user.

Best wishes,
Vitaly

On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 05:53, Ni, Ray  wrote:

> Vitaly,
>
> I still have concern to modify the EDKII code to workaround a firmware bug.
>
> Can you just change in your local version?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray
>
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io   On Behalf Of Vitaly 
> Cheptsov via Groups.Io
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:47 AM
> To: Laszlo Ersek ; devel@edk2.groups.io; Ni, Ray 
> ; Gao, Zhichao 
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles 
> without device paths
>
> Thanks all for your input,
>
> These explanations seem sufficient to us that it is not a good idea to change 
> the behaviour for everyone. Even so, we still need this to be configurable in 
> some way, as having to patch EDK II is impracticable.
>
> We believe there are three possible routes to approach this problem:
>
> -  Introduce a separate ControllerConnectionLib library for this function. 
> While it is small, we found several places in our code that need to call it 
> beyond UEFI Shell. This way different implementations could be used depending 
> on the chosen library.
> -  Introduce a ConnectRequiresDevicePath PCD, which will choose the preferred 
> logic.
> -  Introduce a -dp Shell argument for affected commands the way Lazslo 
> suggested.
>
> We believe either route or a combination of multiple routes have their own 
> benefits, and would suggest either going with 1+2 or with 3. Any approach is 
> fine for us.
>
> We will submit V2 of the patch after hearing the opinions.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Vitaly
>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 20:55, Laszlo Ersek  wrote:
>
>> On 01/13/20 12:56, Ni, Ray wrote:
>>> We shouldn't assume that a DriverBindingStart() can only start on a handle 
>>> with device path installed. DevicePath protocol is just a special protocol.
>>> It's possible that a bus driver starts on a host controller handle and 
>>> creates multiple children, each with only a Specific_IO protocol installed.
>>> Certain device driver can start on the children handle and open the 
>>> Specific_IO protocol BY_DRIVER.
>>> I am not sure if certain today's network drivers may work like this. It's 
>>> allowed per UEFI spec.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> Under "10.2 EFI Device Path Protocol", the spec says, "If the handle
>> does not logically map to a physical device, the handle may not
>> necessarily support the device path protocol."
>>
>> I think gBS->ConnectController() and
>> EFI_DRIVER_BINDING_PROTOCOL.Supported() should work on such handles.
>>
>> If we'd like to work around related issues in drivers, then I'd suggest
>> new command line options for the "load", "connect", "reconnect" shell
>> commands (maybe more), for filtering out handles that do not carry
>> device paths. Such command line options could be added as an extension,
>> IIUC, such as "-_option". I.e., I believe it's not necessary to start
>> with UEFI Shell Spec updates.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Laszlo
>
> 
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Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without device paths

2020-01-13 Thread Ni, Ray
Vitaly,
I still have concern to modify the EDKII code to workaround a firmware bug.
Can you just change in your local version?

Thanks,
Ray

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via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:47 AM
To: Laszlo Ersek ; devel@edk2.groups.io; Ni, Ray 
; Gao, Zhichao 
Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without 
device paths


Thanks all for your input,



These explanations seem sufficient to us that it is not a good idea to change 
the behaviour for everyone. Even so, we still need this to be configurable in 
some way, as having to patch EDK II is impracticable.



We believe there are three possible routes to approach this problem:



  1.  Introduce a separate ControllerConnectionLib library for this function. 
While it is small, we found several places in our code that need to call it 
beyond UEFI Shell. This way different implementations could be used depending 
on the chosen library.
  2.  Introduce a ConnectRequiresDevicePath PCD, which will choose the 
preferred logic.
  3.  Introduce a -dp Shell argument for affected commands the way Lazslo 
suggested.



We believe either route or a combination of multiple routes have their own 
benefits, and would suggest either going with 1+2 or with 3. Any approach is 
fine for us.



We will submit V2 of the patch after hearing the opinions.



Best wishes,

Vitaly

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 20:55, Laszlo Ersek 
mailto:ler...@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 01/13/20 12:56, Ni, Ray wrote:
> We shouldn't assume that a DriverBindingStart() can only start on a handle 
> with device path installed. DevicePath protocol is just a special protocol.
> It's possible that a bus driver starts on a host controller handle and 
> creates multiple children, each with only a Specific_IO protocol installed.
> Certain device driver can start on the children handle and open the 
> Specific_IO protocol BY_DRIVER.
> I am not sure if certain today's network drivers may work like this. It's 
> allowed per UEFI spec.

I agree.

Under "10.2 EFI Device Path Protocol", the spec says, "If the handle
does not logically map to a physical device, the handle may not
necessarily support the device path protocol."

I think gBS->ConnectController() and
EFI_DRIVER_BINDING_PROTOCOL.Supported() should work on such handles.

If we'd like to work around related issues in drivers, then I'd suggest
new command line options for the "load", "connect", "reconnect" shell
commands (maybe more), for filtering out handles that do not carry
device paths. Such command line options could be added as an extension,
IIUC, such as "-_option". I.e., I believe it's not necessary to start
with UEFI Shell Spec updates.

Thanks
Laszlo




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Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without device paths

2020-01-13 Thread Vitaly Cheptsov via Groups.Io
Thanks all for your input,

These explanations seem sufficient to us that it is not a good idea to change 
the behaviour for everyone. Even so, we still need this to be configurable in 
some way, as having to patch EDK II is impracticable.

We believe there are three possible routes to approach this problem:

- Introduce a separate ControllerConnectionLib library for this function. While 
it is small, we found several places in our code that need to call it beyond 
UEFI Shell. This way different implementations could be used depending on the 
chosen library.
- Introduce a ConnectRequiresDevicePath PCD, which will choose the preferred 
logic.
- Introduce a -dp Shell argument for affected commands the way Lazslo suggested.

We believe either route or a combination of multiple routes have their own 
benefits, and would suggest either going with 1+2 or with 3. Any approach is 
fine for us.

We will submit V2 of the patch after hearing the opinions.

Best wishes,

Vitaly

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 20:55, Laszlo Ersek  wrote:

> On 01/13/20 12:56, Ni, Ray wrote:
>> We shouldn't assume that a DriverBindingStart() can only start on a handle 
>> with device path installed. DevicePath protocol is just a special protocol.
>> It's possible that a bus driver starts on a host controller handle and 
>> creates multiple children, each with only a Specific_IO protocol installed.
>> Certain device driver can start on the children handle and open the 
>> Specific_IO protocol BY_DRIVER.
>> I am not sure if certain today's network drivers may work like this. It's 
>> allowed per UEFI spec.
>
> I agree.
>
> Under "10.2 EFI Device Path Protocol", the spec says, "If the handle
> does not logically map to a physical device, the handle may not
> necessarily support the device path protocol."
>
> I think gBS->ConnectController() and
> EFI_DRIVER_BINDING_PROTOCOL.Supported() should work on such handles.
>
> If we'd like to work around related issues in drivers, then I'd suggest
> new command line options for the "load", "connect", "reconnect" shell
> commands (maybe more), for filtering out handles that do not carry
> device paths. Such command line options could be added as an extension,
> IIUC, such as "-_option". I.e., I believe it's not necessary to start
> with UEFI Shell Spec updates.
>
> Thanks
> Laszlo
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Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without device paths

2020-01-13 Thread Laszlo Ersek
On 01/13/20 12:56, Ni, Ray wrote:
> We shouldn't assume that a DriverBindingStart() can only start on a handle 
> with device path installed. DevicePath protocol is just a special protocol.
> It's possible that a bus driver starts on a host controller handle and 
> creates multiple children, each with only a Specific_IO protocol installed.
> Certain device driver can start on the children handle and open the 
> Specific_IO protocol BY_DRIVER.
> I am not sure if certain today's network drivers may work like this. It's 
> allowed per UEFI spec.

I agree.

Under "10.2 EFI Device Path Protocol", the spec says, "If the handle
does not logically map to a physical device, the handle may not
necessarily support the device path protocol."

I think gBS->ConnectController() and
EFI_DRIVER_BINDING_PROTOCOL.Supported() should work on such handles.

If we'd like to work around related issues in drivers, then I'd suggest
new command line options for the "load", "connect", "reconnect" shell
commands (maybe more), for filtering out handles that do not carry
device paths. Such command line options could be added as an extension,
IIUC, such as "-_option". I.e., I believe it's not necessary to start
with UEFI Shell Spec updates.

Thanks
Laszlo


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Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without device paths

2020-01-13 Thread Ni, Ray
We shouldn't assume that a DriverBindingStart() can only start on a handle with 
device path installed. DevicePath protocol is just a special protocol.
It's possible that a bus driver starts on a host controller handle and creates 
multiple children, each with only a Specific_IO protocol installed.
Certain device driver can start on the children handle and open the Specific_IO 
protocol BY_DRIVER.
I am not sure if certain today's network drivers may work like this. It's 
allowed per UEFI spec.

Thanks,
Ray

> -Original Message-
> From: vit9696 
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 5:20 PM
> To: Gao, Zhichao 
> Cc: devel@edk2.groups.io; Ni, Ray 
> Subject: Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles 
> without device paths
> 
> Hi,
> 
> ‘Freeze’ means it is hung up forever, and we believe it is caused by an 
> invalid memory access in the firmware code.
> 
> Using loading command with ‘-nc’ (no connect) will work fine, but that is 
> kind of expected, as the issue is caused exactly by
> the connect logic.
> 
> We do not believe it is possible for device controller to exist without a 
> device path protocol in the wild. Would you please
> provide an example? If there is something we do not know about, I can imagine 
> introducing a PCD for this logic.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Vitaly
> 
> > 13 янв. 2020 г., в 11:11, Gao, Zhichao  написал(а):
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > What does 'freeze' mean? System blocked for a while or it hung up forever?
> >
> > The change would affect the operation of the 'load' command. If some 
> > drivers need to connect to the device controller
> but it doesn't have a device path protocol, the behavior of 'load' may be 
> incorrect.
> > Is the option '-nc' working for your request?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Zhichao
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: devel@edk2.groups.io [mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> >> Vitaly Cheptsov via Groups.Io
> >> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 5:39 AM
> >> To: devel@edk2.groups.io
> >> Subject: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without
> >> device paths
> >>
> >> REF: https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2460
> >>
> >> Doing this reduces the amount of needless work during device connection
> >> and resolves issues with firmwares that freeze when connecting handles
> >> without device paths.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Cheptsov 
> >> ---
> >> ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c | 4 ++--
> >> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
> >> b/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
> >> index b6e7c952fa..083aac0dba 100644
> >> --- a/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
> >> +++ b/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
> >> @@ -32,8 +32,8 @@ ConnectAllEfi (
> >>   UINTN   Index;
> >>
> >>   Status = gBS->LocateHandleBuffer (
> >> -  AllHandles,
> >> -  NULL,
> >> +  ByProtocol,
> >> +  ,
> >>   NULL,
> >>   ,
> >>   
> >> --
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Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without device paths

2020-01-13 Thread Vitaly Cheptsov via Groups.Io
Hi,

‘Freeze’ means it is hung up forever, and we believe it is caused by an invalid 
memory access in the firmware code.

Using loading command with ‘-nc’ (no connect) will work fine, but that is kind 
of expected, as the issue is caused exactly by the connect logic.

We do not believe it is possible for device controller to exist without a 
device path protocol in the wild. Would you please provide an example? If there 
is something we do not know about, I can imagine introducing a PCD for this 
logic.

Best wishes,
Vitaly

> 13 янв. 2020 г., в 11:11, Gao, Zhichao  написал(а):
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What does 'freeze' mean? System blocked for a while or it hung up forever?
> 
> The change would affect the operation of the 'load' command. If some drivers 
> need to connect to the device controller but it doesn't have a device path 
> protocol, the behavior of 'load' may be incorrect.
> Is the option '-nc' working for your request?
> 
> Thanks,
> Zhichao
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: devel@edk2.groups.io [mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Vitaly Cheptsov via Groups.Io
>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 5:39 AM
>> To: devel@edk2.groups.io
>> Subject: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without
>> device paths
>> 
>> REF: https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2460
>> 
>> Doing this reduces the amount of needless work during device connection
>> and resolves issues with firmwares that freeze when connecting handles
>> without device paths.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Cheptsov 
>> ---
>> ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c | 4 ++--
>> 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>> 
>> diff --git a/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
>> b/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
>> index b6e7c952fa..083aac0dba 100644
>> --- a/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
>> +++ b/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
>> @@ -32,8 +32,8 @@ ConnectAllEfi (
>>   UINTN   Index;
>> 
>>   Status = gBS->LocateHandleBuffer (
>> -  AllHandles,
>> -  NULL,
>> +  ByProtocol,
>> +  ,
>>   NULL,
>>   ,
>>   
>> --
>> 2.21.0 (Apple Git-122.2)
>> 
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Re: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without device paths

2020-01-13 Thread Gao, Zhichao
Hi,

What does 'freeze' mean? System blocked for a while or it hung up forever?

The change would affect the operation of the 'load' command. If some drivers 
need to connect to the device controller but it doesn't have a device path 
protocol, the behavior of 'load' may be incorrect.
Is the option '-nc' working for your request?

Thanks,
Zhichao

> -Original Message-
> From: devel@edk2.groups.io [mailto:devel@edk2.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Vitaly Cheptsov via Groups.Io
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 5:39 AM
> To: devel@edk2.groups.io
> Subject: [edk2-devel] [PATCH 1/1] ShellPkg: Do not connect handles without
> device paths
> 
> REF: https://bugzilla.tianocore.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2460
> 
> Doing this reduces the amount of needless work during device connection
> and resolves issues with firmwares that freeze when connecting handles
> without device paths.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Cheptsov 
> ---
>  ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c | 4 ++--
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
> b/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
> index b6e7c952fa..083aac0dba 100644
> --- a/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
> +++ b/ShellPkg/Library/UefiShellLevel2CommandsLib/Load.c
> @@ -32,8 +32,8 @@ ConnectAllEfi (
>UINTN   Index;
> 
>Status = gBS->LocateHandleBuffer (
> -  AllHandles,
> -  NULL,
> +  ByProtocol,
> +  ,
>NULL,
>,
>
> --
> 2.21.0 (Apple Git-122.2)
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