Re: [thunderbird] Default browser is no longer read from prefs

2011-04-13 Thread Christopher Aillon
On 04/12/2011 06:40 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 04/13/2011 06:47 AM, Christopher Aillon wrote: commit 7986a8567a9dbb2a6f8187b91a021d5ad350f96f Author: Christopher Ailloncail...@redhat.com Date: Tue Apr 12 18:15:07 2011 -0700 Default browser is no longer read from prefs It's

Re: Preteen pics, lolita bbs, sexy girls, nude art

2011-04-13 Thread Ewan Mac Mahon
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:44:00AM +0400, Aurora Oaks wrote: spam As well as making it to the list, the subject line of this email is currently appearing on http://start.fedoraproject.org/ This is probably not a good thing. Ewan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 04/12/2011 06:12 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: There are two major package classes in Fedora that provide graphics drivers: xorg-x11-drv-*, and mesa-dri-drivers-*. In F15, mesa-dri-drivers now only includes drivers with DRI2 support (radeon, nvidia, intel) and the software renderer; if you want

Re: [thunderbird] Default browser is no longer read from prefs

2011-04-13 Thread Steve Clark
On 04/13/2011 03:26 AM, Christopher Aillon wrote: On 04/12/2011 06:40 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 04/13/2011 06:47 AM, Christopher Aillon wrote: commit 7986a8567a9dbb2a6f8187b91a021d5ad350f96f Author: Christopher Ailloncail...@redhat.com Date: Tue Apr 12 18:15:07 2011 -0700 Default

Re: Preteen pics, lolita bbs, sexy girls, nude art

2011-04-13 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2011-04-13 10:03:22 AM, Ewan Mac Mahon wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:44:00AM +0400, Aurora Oaks wrote: spam As well as making it to the list, the subject line of this email is currently appearing on http://start.fedoraproject.org/ This is probably not a good thing. Hi, this shoud

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Jackson
On 4/13/11 5:14 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: On 04/12/2011 06:12 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: ast, ati, cirrus, fbdev, geode, intel, mga, nouveau, openchrome, qxl, sis/xgi, vesa, vmware Would this affect the way KVM and specifically qemu-kvm in it's default setup for video using the cirrus driver

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Jackson (a...@redhat.com) said: On 4/13/11 5:14 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: On 04/12/2011 06:12 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: ast, ati, cirrus, fbdev, geode, intel, mga, nouveau, openchrome, qxl, sis/xgi, vesa, vmware Would this affect the way KVM and specifically qemu-kvm in it's default

Re: [perl] Filter *.so at the start of spec.

2011-04-13 Thread Paul Howarth
On 01/10/10 09:26, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: commit 29e9c5e6c9749506b3718757acf3069d1f7bab33 Author: Marcela Mašláňovámmasl...@redhat.com Date: Fri Oct 1 09:25:49 2010 +0200 Filter *.so at the start of spec. perl.spec | 68

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Jackson
On 4/13/11 9:09 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: ... should we work on making qemu/kvm default to something more modern/sane? (qxl, vmware?) Does it not end up mattering (or do we need cirrus for legacy OS support)? It ends up being a function of the guest OS - vmware's Windows driver will refuse

Re: [thunderbird] Default browser is no longer read from prefs

2011-04-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/13/2011 04:31 PM, Steve Clark wrote: I think that is the wrong attitude! Because at some point it is going to break and the poor enduser is going to have no idea why. This is the Microsoft attitude. Implementation details are usually something that upstream developers worry about more.

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 12.4.2011 18:12, Adam Jackson napsal(a): negative.) The list of video drivers that see any actual use is probably something like: ast, ati, cirrus, fbdev, geode, intel, mga, nouveau, openchrome, qxl, sis/xgi, vesa, vmware A word from your Xorg bugmaster. I think even this list

Re: Fedora SPEC Review Tool

2011-04-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 11:00:08PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: On 4/6/2011 11:11, Jeffrey Ness wrote: As I'm new to the community and RPM Package Review (and development), I figured a tool to assist with reviews would be a nice time saver. With that said I have a simple Python tool

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 04/13/2011 03:10 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On 4/13/11 9:09 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: ... should we work on making qemu/kvm default to something more modern/sane? (qxl, vmware?) Does it not end up mattering (or do we need cirrus for legacy OS support)? It ends up being a function of the

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Jackson
On 4/13/11 11:02 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: On 04/13/2011 03:10 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On 4/13/11 9:09 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: ... should we work on making qemu/kvm default to something more modern/sane? (qxl, vmware?) Does it not end up mattering (or do we need cirrus for legacy OS

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Jackson
On 4/13/11 10:25 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: Dne 12.4.2011 18:12, Adam Jackson napsal(a): negative.) The list of video drivers that see any actual use is probably something like: ast, ati, cirrus, fbdev, geode, intel, mga, nouveau, openchrome, qxl, sis/xgi, vesa, vmware A word from

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Jackson
On 4/12/11 11:58 PM, John Reiser wrote: On 04/12/2011 09:12 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: Basically all of this hardware is, ahem, inept. The most featureful device supported by these drivers would be the MGA G550, which just barely manages to do DirectX 7 (comparable to a Radeon 7000 or GeForce

Meeting minutes/Summary from today's FESCo meeting - 2011-04-13

2011-04-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-04-13) === Meeting started by nirik at 17:30:03 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-04-13/fesco.2011-04-13-17.30.log.html Meeting summary

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 13:38 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 12:23 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Adam Jackson (a...@redhat.com) said: So that's the rough plan. Comments appreciated if I'm overlooking anything. The question would be how we ensure that these

Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Honza Horak
Hi, I'm working on systemd unit file for ypbind and found some problems, that I'm not sure about: 1) if I use systemctl enable/disable instead of chkconfig in %post and %preun sections in spec file, rpmlint prints errors: postin-without-chkconfig /etc/rc.d/init.d/ypbind preun-without-chkconfig

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/4/13 Honza Horak hho...@redhat.com: Hi, I'm working on systemd unit file for ypbind and found some problems, that I'm not sure about: 1) if I use systemctl enable/disable instead of chkconfig in %post and %preun sections in spec file, rpmlint prints errors:

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 13:17 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 09:34 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 12:12 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: And input is even briefer (evdev, synaptics, wacom, vmmouse). I'd like to chop the -drivers metapackage down to just

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 13.04.11 19:55, Honza Horak (hho...@redhat.com) wrote: Hi, I'm working on systemd unit file for ypbind and found some problems, that I'm not sure about: 1) if I use systemctl enable/disable instead of chkconfig in %post and %preun sections in spec file, rpmlint prints errors:

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:00:33PM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, 2011/4/13 Honza Horak hho...@redhat.com: Hi, I'm working on systemd unit file for ypbind and found some problems, that I'm not sure about: 1) if I use systemctl enable/disable instead of chkconfig in %post and

Re: [Fedora-r-devel-list] Errors in constructing SPEC from local source.

2011-04-13 Thread Allen S. Rout
Pierre-Yves Chibon pingou-e11oz7vxvvoxcrstzzn...@public.gmane.org writes: R2spec remains a project designed to make the life of Fedora's R packager's easier, so it has to remain guideline compliant. That is a reason why putting the source0 as URL also is not *in my opinion* a good approach

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 04/13/2011 05:55 PM, Honza Horak wrote: Hi, I'm working on systemd unit file for ypbind and found some problems, that I'm not sure about: It would be good if maintainers could take their time and assign themselves to their components here [1] if they have the time to convert old sysv to

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2011/4/13 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com: It would be good if maintainers could take their time and assign themselves to their components here [1] if they have the time to convert old sysv to a native systemd native one so those of us that are helping out and converting old sysv can

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 13.04.11 22:55, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: 2011/4/13 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com: It would be good if maintainers could take their time and assign themselves to their components here [1] if they have the time to convert old sysv to a native systemd native

Re: [Fedora-r-devel-list] Errors in constructing SPEC from local source.

2011-04-13 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 15:06 -0400, Allen S. Rout wrote: R2spec remains a project designed to make the life of Fedora's R packager's easier, so it has to remain guideline compliant. That is a reason why putting the source0 as URL also is not *in my opinion* a good approach (while I

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:00:18PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 13.04.11 22:55, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: 2011/4/13 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com: It would be good if maintainers could take their time and assign themselves to their components here

[Test-Announce] 2011-04-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F-15 blocker bug review #1

2011-04-13 Thread James Laska
# F15 Blocker Review meeting #1 # Date: 2011-04-14 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net Mark your calendars, the first F15 Final blocker review meeting will be this Friday at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. We'll review

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 04/13/2011 09:17 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:00:18PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 13.04.11 22:55, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: 2011/4/13 Jóhann B. Guðmundssonjohan...@gmail.com: It would be good if maintainers could take their time and assign

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Jackson wrote: On 4/12/11 11:58 PM, John Reiser wrote: On 04/12/2011 09:12 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: For comparison, the baseline for the GPU in the phone in your pocket - and that platform layers like clutter more or less expect - is GLES 2.0, which is roughly comparable to DirectX 9.

Fedora 15 Beta is hereby declared GOLD!

2011-04-13 Thread Robyn Bergeron
At the Fedora 15 Beta Go/No-Go meeting today, the F15 Beta was declared GOLD and ready for release on April 19, 2011. Thanks to everyone, as always, for their hard work and participation in getting this out the door. :) Meeting minutes are below. -Robyn

Re: [thunderbird] Default browser is no longer read from prefs

2011-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Christopher Aillon wrote: Now, we're setting _gsettings_ keys in control center, so those gconf keys aren't getting updated when the user toggles that. But it doesn't matter. I pushed an update to the default gconf values to launch gvfs-open as the default browser which will read the values

Re: [thunderbird] Default browser is no longer read from prefs

2011-04-13 Thread Christopher Aillon
On 04/13/2011 04:01 AM, Steve Clark wrote: On 04/13/2011 03:26 AM, Christopher Aillon wrote: On 04/12/2011 06:40 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 04/13/2011 06:47 AM, Christopher Aillon wrote: commit 7986a8567a9dbb2a6f8187b91a021d5ad350f96f Author: Christopher Ailloncail...@redhat.com Date: Tue

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Jackson
On 4/13/11 5:43 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Will F16 finally ship the llvmpipe as the default software renderer? If by F16, you mean F15, then yes. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Xorg - ajax -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

packages moving from gconf to gsettings

2011-04-13 Thread Julian Sikorski
Dear List, I was just trying to update gnome-mplayer (not in fedora, but that is irrelevant) which migrated from gconf to gsettings. The problem is, that the standard scriptlets [1] do not run on upgrades, leaving the package in a not working state (not running even). I think it would be good to

F-15 Branched report: 20110413 changes

2011-04-13 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Apr 13 13:15:34 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- collectd-mysql-4.10.2-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libmysqlclient.so.16()(64bit) collectd-mysql-4.10.2-2.fc15.x86_64 requires

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Jackson wrote: On 4/13/11 5:43 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Will F16 finally ship the llvmpipe as the default software renderer? If by F16, you mean F15, then yes. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Xorg Hmmm, really? When I look at upstream mesa's code, I see this:

Re: Systemd unit file implementation questions (ypbind)

2011-04-13 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:41:58PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 04/13/2011 09:17 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:00:18PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 13.04.11 22:55, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: 2011/4/13 Jóhann B.

Re: Firefox releases, going forward

2011-04-13 Thread Chris Smart
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Chris Smart fed...@christophersmart.com wrote: Given that Mozilla is dramatically changing the development of Firefox and making releases much more frequent - i.e. Firefox 5 due in July, 6 Further:

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Jackson
On 4/13/11 7:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Jackson wrote: On 4/13/11 5:43 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Will F16 finally ship the llvmpipe as the default software renderer? If by F16, you mean F15, then yes. Hmmm, really? I don't know. Let's ask the machine: synephrine:~% DISPLAY=:0

Re: [thunderbird] Default browser is no longer read from prefs

2011-04-13 Thread Ben Boeckel
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Christopher Aillon wrote: Now, we're setting _gsettings_ keys in control center, so those gconf keys aren't getting updated when the user toggles that. But it doesn't matter. I pushed an update to the default gconf values to launch gvfs-open as the

Re: rfc/headsup: graphics driver packaging in F16+

2011-04-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-04-13 at 19:57 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On 4/13/11 7:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Jackson wrote: On 4/13/11 5:43 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Will F16 finally ship the llvmpipe as the default software renderer? If by F16, you mean F15, then yes. Hmmm, really? I don't

Re: [perl] Filter *.so at the start of spec.

2011-04-13 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 04/13/2011 03:07 PM, Paul Howarth wrote: On 01/10/10 09:26, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: commit 29e9c5e6c9749506b3718757acf3069d1f7bab33 Author: Marcela Mašláňovámmasl...@redhat.com Date: Fri Oct 1 09:25:49 2010 +0200 Filter *.so at the start of spec. perl.spec | 68

Re: [perl] Filter *.so at the start of spec.

2011-04-13 Thread Paul Howarth
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:38:21 +0200 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com wrote: On 04/13/2011 03:07 PM, Paul Howarth wrote: On 01/10/10 09:26, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: commit 29e9c5e6c9749506b3718757acf3069d1f7bab33 Author: Marcela Mašláňovámmasl...@redhat.com Date: Fri Oct 1 09:25:49

Broken dependencies: perl-Math-Random-MT-Auto

2011-04-13 Thread buildsys
perl-Math-Random-MT-Auto has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree: On x86_64: perl-Math-Random-MT-Auto-6.16-2.fc15.x86_64 requires perl(Object::InsideOut) = 0:2.06 On i386: perl-Math-Random-MT-Auto-6.16-2.fc15.i686 requires perl(Object::InsideOut) = 0:2.06 Please resolve this