OCaml 4.09.0 will be added to Fedora 32 via a side tag

2019-12-05 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Builds will start soon into a side tag (f32-build-side-14856), and then if everything goes OK I will merge it into Rawhide. This version should have fixed RISC-V support which is broken currently (and requires some extremely difficult to backport fixes - we already tried that and gave up, so

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:01 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > (One thinkable extension of homed's current model btw is to support > logind lingering by asking for the user pw using plymouth. this would > then mean you'd be asked to unlock your user during early boot like as > with classic disk

(thinking about) unretiring xmlbeans

2019-12-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
xmlbeans [1,2] got retired because of lack of maitainers. It's used by diffoscope now, so I'm thinking about adopting it. Any major reasons not to? Fedora was at 2.6.0, upstream is now at 3.1.0, so it'd be definitely some effort to update... [1] https://xmlbeans.apache.org/ [2]

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:24 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 6:02:07 PM MST Kevin Kofler wrote: > > John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > > > Well, you could theoretically use ssh-agent (or equivalent), without > > > changing the protocol in any way. > > > > > > You need

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20191205.n.0 changes

2019-12-05 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20191204.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20191205.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:6 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 4 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 152 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 126.17 MiB Size of dropped packages

Self Introduction: Theo Papadopoulo

2019-12-05 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo
Hello, My name is Theo Papadopoulo. I use linux based systems since 1996 and redhat/fedora ones since so long I do not quite remember (2005-2007?). Fedora is used within the research group (and actually with the research institute where I am) I belong to as the main computing platform.

Re: Self Introduction: Theo Papadopoulo

2019-12-05 Thread alciregi
On Thu, 2019-12-05 at 14:50 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: > participating in some specialized open source project you may not > even > know (OpenMEEG, OpenViBE or medInria) and occasionally helped in some Hello Theo! Welcome. Look here :-) https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/279

Re: Self Introduction: Theo Papadopoulo

2019-12-05 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo
On 12/5/19 2:50 PM, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Theo Papadopoulo. I use linux based systems since 1996 and > redhat/fedora ones since so long I do not quite remember (2005-2007?). > Fedora is used within the research group (and actually with the research > institute

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 5:41:44 AM MST Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > If someone wants to spend that much of their resources on homedir > security, they need to decide whether they want SSH key based access. > That is manageable by configuring SSH to store SSH public keys in an > alternate

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 5:35:09 AM MST Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Do, 05.12.19 04:30, John M. Harris Jr (joh...@splentity.com) wrote: > > Well, you are, in that the average attacker have to break or steal a key > > to decrypt the drive first. Sure, it wouldn't stop a sophisticated > >

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 5:53:18 AM MST Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 9:24 PM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 6:02:07 PM MST Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > > John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, you could

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 5:07:04 AM MST Marius Schwarz wrote: > Hi, > > Am 25.11.19 um 22:59 schrieb Samuel Sieb: > > > > > > > Steps 1 - 4 are not benefits, they are workarounds to critical system > > utilities required by this change. I don't understand why this change > > is necessary

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 9:02 AM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 5:41:44 AM MST Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > If someone wants to spend that much of their resources on homedir > > security, they need to decide whether they want SSH key based access. > > That is manageable

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 7:07:04 AM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > Please don't suggest that password-based auth for SSH is insecure. > That's not even close to true. A password isn't terribly different > from an SSH key from an authentication perspective. If the password is > strong or hard to

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Lennart Poettering wrote: > Uh, first of all plain full disk encryption like we set it up > typically on Fedora provides confidentiality, not integrity. Well, it does protect against offline modification (i.e., "borrow" the computer or the storage devices, put the storage devices into another

Re: Should we discontinue the Python Classroom Lab?

2019-12-05 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 5:46 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > I'd like to know whether it makes sense to continue maintaining and producing > the Fedora Python Classroom Lab. > I can't answer that question for you, but I can address a few of the below: > - no issue tracker, I don't even know if there

Re: Should we discontinue the Python Classroom Lab?

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 3:44:50 AM MST Miro Hrončok wrote: > - Docker is broken > - one of the main ideas was to produce a Docker image > - the Docker instructions on the download page [4] are not working > - not even when replaced with podman > - I have no idea how to fix

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > Let's not go too far down the "gummy fingerprint" thread. If a > sophisticated person has your laptop, they probably have your > fingerprints, and very few fingerprint scanners successfully resist a > duplicated and printed fingerprint. We were talking about SSH key

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Do, 05.12.19 15:23, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Uh, first of all plain full disk encryption like we set it up > > typically on Fedora provides confidentiality, not integrity. > > Well, it does protect against offline modification (i.e., "borrow"

Bohdi / Create New Update - I miss the field Builds

2019-12-05 Thread Martin Gansser
Hi, i want to create a new update on bohdi for the package vdr-epg2vdr-1.1.103-2.fc31, but i miss the field Builds on create new update. What is going wrong ? Regards Martin ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: Firefox crashes at Rawhide

2019-12-05 Thread Jan Pokorný
On 03/12/19 13:29 +0100, Martin Stransky wrote: > Just FYI, Firefox is recently crashing on Rawhide due to two independent > issues as rawhide gets all builds automatically: > > 1) PGO mis-compilation/Firefox bug > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1779082). Please use 'npgo' > builds

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 05.12.19 um 13:32 schrieb Lennart Poettering: > Well, the way this has been traditionally done is that the lock screen > is displayed by a program running under the user's identity and that > the user's data is entirely unlocked the entire time during suspend, That depends on what you have

Re: Bohdi / Create New Update - I miss the field Builds

2019-12-05 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 03:12:50PM -, Martin Gansser wrote: > Hi, > > i want to create a new update on bohdi for the package > vdr-epg2vdr-1.1.103-2.fc31, but i miss the field Builds on create new update. > What is going wrong ? First field at the top? Or maybe you could share a screenshot

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Przemek Klosowski via devel
On 12/4/19 6:59 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 12:38:20 PM MST Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: - stolen/lost laptop: I think this is the most important one for most people; it is mitigaged by a trusted-network-based decryption, unless the device is in

Self Introduction: Philip Matura

2019-12-05 Thread pfed
Hello, my name is Philip Matura and I'm currently a student in mathematics. In my freetime I'm doing audio/music and electronics stuff. I've been converted to the Linux world with Fedora about 10 years ago and would like to give some things back. So there are currently four packages I would like

Re: (thinking about) unretiring xmlbeans

2019-12-05 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 1:52 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > xmlbeans [1,2] got retired because of lack of maitainers. > It's used by diffoscope now, so I'm thinking about adopting it. > Any major reasons not to? Fedora was at 2.6.0, upstream is now at > 3.1.0, so it'd be definitely some

Re: Bohdi / Create New Update - I miss the field Builds

2019-12-05 Thread Martin Gansser
I mean this field [1] [1] https://martinkg.fedorapeople.org/ErrorReports/bohdi/bohdi.png ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Unannounced library bump: thrift 0.10.0 -> 0.13.0

2019-12-05 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 4:50 AM Orion Poplawski wrote: > > On 12/4/19 3:44 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > The "thrift" package was updated in rawhide and changed the name of > > its library (which is oddly versioned anyway, and the "main" package > > ships *.so files ???) > >

Re: Bohdi / Create New Update - I miss the field Builds

2019-12-05 Thread Clement Verna
On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 17:45, Martin Gansser wrote: > I mean this field [1] > > [1] https://martinkg.fedorapeople.org/ErrorReports/bohdi/bohdi.png Hi Martin, A new version of Bodhi was deployed yesterday. Can you clean your browser cache and reload the page ? And let us know if that helps :-)

Re: Bohdi / Create New Update - I miss the field Builds

2019-12-05 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 5:45 PM Martin Gansser wrote: > > I mean this field [1] > > [1] https://martinkg.fedorapeople.org/ErrorReports/bohdi/bohdi.png The "builds" field has been moved to the top of the page again (thanks, bodhi maintainers!). If it doesn't show up for you, maybe a hard refresh

Re: Bohdi / Create New Update - I miss the field Builds

2019-12-05 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 04:44:34PM -, Martin Gansser wrote: > I mean this field [1] > > [1] https://martinkg.fedorapeople.org/ErrorReports/bohdi/bohdi.png https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/new It is now at the very top of the page addressing some of the feedback the previous version of

Re: Bohdi / Create New Update - I miss the field Builds

2019-12-05 Thread Martin Gansser
ok, i see, they have moved the builds field to the top. sorry for the yelp. Regards Martin ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Bohdi / Create New Update - I miss the field Builds

2019-12-05 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 5:53 PM Martin Gansser wrote: > > ok, i see, they have moved the builds field to the top. > sorry for the yelp. Can I suggest that you also not fill the "Name" field with just the name of the updated package? Even the automatically generated default value if you leave it

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 07:02:08AM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 5:41:44 AM MST Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: ...snip... > > In common usage, very few people encrypt their home directories > > separately from their basic disk image. It makes system management for > >

Re: (thinking about) unretiring xmlbeans

2019-12-05 Thread Mat Booth
On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 12:52, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > xmlbeans [1,2] got retired because of lack of maitainers. > It's used by diffoscope now, so I'm thinking about adopting it. > Any major reasons not to? Fedora was at 2.6.0, upstream is now at > 3.1.0, so it'd be definitely some

Re: (thinking about) unretiring xmlbeans

2019-12-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 05:05:46PM +, Mat Booth wrote: > On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 12:52, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > xmlbeans [1,2] got retired because of lack of maitainers. > > It's used by diffoscope now, so I'm thinking about adopting it. > > Any major reasons not to? Fedora

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 8:04 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > If you use LUKS/dm-crypt without dm-integrity and you have a clue > where things are located then you can change files without anything > being able to detect that. (On btrfs you might have some luck, since > it has data checksumming, but

Re: Should we discontinue the Python Classroom Lab?

2019-12-05 Thread Daniel Walsh
On 12/5/19 9:55 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 3:44:50 AM MST Miro Hrončok wrote: >> - Docker is broken >> - one of the main ideas was to produce a Docker image >> - the Docker instructions on the download page [4] are not working >> - not even when

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Andreas Tunek
On Thu, 5 Dec 2019, 02:11 John M. Harris Jr, wrote: > > > The user experience is nothing like data loss. The users are not stupid. > It's > fine that the keyboard layout for initramfs is only updated when initramfs > is > rebuilt. People don't change their primary keyboard layout very often. I >

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 8:57 AM Marius Schwarz wrote: > > Am 05.12.19 um 13:32 schrieb Lennart Poettering: > > Well, the way this has been traditionally done is that the lock screen > is displayed by a program running under the user's identity and that > the user's data is entirely unlocked the

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 5:07 AM Marius Schwarz wrote: > > Hi, > > Am 25.11.19 um 22:59 schrieb Samuel Sieb: > > > > Steps 1 - 4 are not benefits, they are workarounds to critical system > > utilities required by this change. I don't understand why this change > > is necessary at all. It only

Re: Should we discontinue the Python Classroom Lab?

2019-12-05 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 05. 12. 19 21:05, Daniel Walsh wrote: On 12/5/19 9:55 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Thursday, December 5, 2019 3:44:50 AM MST Miro Hrončok wrote: - Docker is broken - one of the main ideas was to produce a Docker image - the Docker instructions on the download page [4] are

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 4:03 AM Marius Schwarz wrote: > With FDE running and "Suspend-to-disk" selected in your screensafer > settings, you get asked for your password on hw wakeup before your > system gets back running. If someone wants to use such things, he > already can. FDE depends on

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 5:32:55 AM MST Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Where is the advantage of homed, considering, that only encrypting > > /home, is a major security flaw by itself. All your goals are > > already there and it's more useful and secure too :) I really have a > > problem

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Lennart Poettering wrote: > No it does not protect against offline modification. That's why > dm-integrity exists after all. How do you want to modify an encrypted file system without being able to decrypt or encrypt anything? Kevin Kofler ___

Re: Should we discontinue the Python Classroom Lab?

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 1:05:38 PM MST Daniel Walsh wrote: > On 12/5/19 9:55 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 3:44:50 AM MST Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > >> - Docker is broken > >> > >> - one of the main ideas was to produce a Docker image > >> -

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 9:26:09 AM MST Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: > On 12/4/19 6:59 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 12:38:20 PM MST Przemek Klosowski via devel > > > > wrote: > >> - stolen/lost laptop: I think this is the most important one for most

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 1:40:02 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > Hibernation is out of scope to rely on, let alone make a default, for > at least the following reasons: > a. It's not sufficiently well supported upstream for regressions that > may appear in new kernels, and not supported by the

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 3:02:48 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 4:03 AM Marius Schwarz > wrote: > > > With FDE running and "Suspend-to-disk" selected in your screensafer > > settings, you get asked for your password on hw wakeup before your > > system gets back

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 12:46:51 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > Therefore the feature is a no op for most users, who are unlikely to > enable file system discards using either method. This is Fedora, not Sugar on a Stick. Our users are not ignorant of modifying fstab, or similar. I wouldn't

Review swap

2019-12-05 Thread Jerry James
One of my upstreams picked up a new documentation dependency. Who would like to swap reviews? This one should be quick and easy. python-sphinx-copybutton: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1780426 Thank you, -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2019-12-05 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, How I produce the results of orphans-2019-12-02.txt ? or please could you update and upload orphans-2019-12-06.txt to see what we still need for js-jquery , etc. Thank you. On Mon, 2019-12-02 at 19:15 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 4:49 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 1:40:02 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > Hibernation is out of scope to rely on, let alone make a default, for > > at least the following reasons: > > a. It's not sufficiently well supported upstream for

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 6:17:16 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 4:49 PM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 1:40:02 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > > Hibernation is out of scope to rely on, let alone make a default, for > > > at least

Re: Should we discontinue the Python Classroom Lab?

2019-12-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 04:42:46PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 1:05:38 PM MST Daniel Walsh wrote: > > On 12/5/19 9:55 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 3:44:50 AM MST Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > > >> - Docker is broken > >

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 6:40 PM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 6:17:16 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > No it isn't. But as I've asked you for your definition of "support" > > and you still haven't, and I've offered my own and you haven't > > disputed it, I win. That's

Re: Unannounced library bump: thrift 0.10.0 -> 0.13.0

2019-12-05 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 12/5/19 9:45 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: Hi Orion, Thanks for fixing the issues so quickly! I also hope my original message didn't come across as too negative / critical. I just wanted to give devel@ a short heads-up that something was broken in rawhide, so it can be fixed in a timely

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 9:02 AM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > Please don't recommend to anyone to use passwords for SSH. That is incredibly > insecure, and if privileged users are using password-based SSH, that'll > quickly lead to a serious compromise of your entire system, depending on the >

Re: Review swap

2019-12-05 Thread Vascom
I can review it without swap. пт, 6 дек. 2019 г. в 03:03, Jerry James : > > One of my upstreams picked up a new documentation dependency. Who would like > to swap reviews? This one should be quick and easy. > > python-sphinx-copybutton: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1780426 > >

Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-05 Thread Johannes Lips
Hi all, I was recently bit by a bug, which was caused by a mismatch between texlive-biblatex and biber. The technical side is not so important, only so much that they need each other in a pretty specific version, which is not reflected on the rpm level. What I found weird is that you can't

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-05 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Dec 6, 2019, 07:35 Johannes Lips wrote: > Hi all, > > I was recently bit by a bug, which was caused by a mismatch between > texlive-biblatex and biber. The technical side is not so important, only so > much that they need each other in a pretty specific version, which is not > reflected

Fedora-Cloud-30-20191206.0 compose check report

2019-12-05 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Allow comments and discussion even though an update was pushed to stable

2019-12-05 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 06/12/19 07:34, Johannes Lips ha scritto: > Hi all, > > I was recently bit by a bug, which was caused by a mismatch between > texlive-biblatex and biber. The technical side is not so important, only so > much that they need each other in a pretty specific version, which is not > reflected on

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 06.12.19 00:39, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > No it does not protect against offline modification. That's why > > dm-integrity exists after all. > > How do you want to modify an encrypted file system without being able to > decrypt or encrypt

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le mercredi 04 décembre 2019 à 17:37 -0700, John M. Harris Jr a écrit : > > > The traditional way is unquestionably hostile to international > > users, > > and doing better, however untraditional, is absolutely something I > > strongly favor. > > How is it "hostile to international users"?

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 05.12.19 um 01:13 schrieb John M. Harris Jr: >> Full-Diskencryption ( /boot included ) is the only way to protect the >> system itself. >> Anything else is simply not secure. > systemd-homed doesn't depend on /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow for > authentication. By all means its security guarantees

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Do, 05.12.19 00:40, Marius Schwarz (fedora...@cloud-foo.de) wrote: > Am 04.12.19 um 02:02 schrieb Chris Murphy: > > Anaconda custom partitioning has a per mount point encryption option. > > I can LUKS encrypt only the volume mounted at /home. And if I do this, > If you do this, someone can

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Do, 05.12.19 00:21, Marius Schwarz (fedora...@cloud-foo.de) wrote: > Am 03.12.19 um 09:07 schrieb Lennart Poettering: > > Also note that on Fedora Workstation we default to suspend-on-idle > > these days. i.e. when you don't actually work on the laptop the laptop > > is suspended and not

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 05.12.19 um 09:03 schrieb Nicolas Mailhot via devel: > Really, we should try to change the default to Azerty or the Russian > layout for a release. That would teach qwerty users what is hostile to > users of other layouts or not. It was in the past, and i.e. a live disk is still defaulting to

Fedora-Rawhide-20191205.n.0 compose check report

2019-12-05 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 6 of 43 required tests failed, 5 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 11/151 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test not failed in

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Marius Schwarz
Hi, Am 25.11.19 um 22:59 schrieb Samuel Sieb: > > Steps 1 - 4 are not benefits, they are workarounds to critical system > utilities required by this change.  I don't understand why this change > is necessary at all.  It only affects local logins and if someone > wants to have an empty password,

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Do, 05.12.19 12:02, Marius Schwarz (fedora...@cloud-foo.de) wrote: > With FDE running and "Suspend-to-disk" selected in your screensafer > settings, you get asked for your password on hw wakeup before your > system gets back running. If someone wants to use such things, he > already can.

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Do, 05.12.19 04:30, John M. Harris Jr (joh...@splentity.com) wrote: > > Unless you combine dm-crypt with dm-integrity (which we currently > > generally do not do), or you use dm-verity you are not actually > > protecting the OS from undetected modification. > > Well, you are, in that the

Fedora without compressed instruction support

2019-12-05 Thread Billa Surendra
Dear David Abdurachmanov, I have seen your presentation about fedora bootstrap on RV64, it was very nice presentation actually. I am planning to boot a RISC-V Fedora on QEMU Emulator, but I want to do some changes in fedora distro. Fedora distro without compressed instruction support require for

Should we discontinue the Python Classroom Lab?

2019-12-05 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hello, I'd like to know whether it makes sense to continue maintaining and producing the Fedora Python Classroom Lab. It has problems: - no issue tracker, I don't even know if there are users with issues - there has simple been close to zero feedback, maybe nobody uses this? - the

Last chance to vote for FESCo

2019-12-05 Thread Pete Walter
Go vote now before the vote closes! Otherwise you'll miss this crucial chance to choose whether Fedora should support modularity or not. https://elections.fedoraproject.org/ Pete ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Should we discontinue the Python Classroom Lab?

2019-12-05 Thread Benson Muite
On 12/5/19 1:44 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: Hello, I'd like to know whether it makes sense to continue maintaining and producing the Fedora Python Classroom Lab. Do any schools use this?  Possibly an edition for use in a school/university computer lab or internet cafe may be more useful, with

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 8:44:18 PM MST Kevin Kofler wrote: > How would that work? The shell runs on the server. The SSH agent runs on the > client, the only one that has the private key. How can the SSH agent know > that it is talking to your "fake shell" and not to an attacker's fake

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 1:03:50 AM MST Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > That works in the GUI. All the low-level parts (including in anaconda > terminal, right after it asked the user to choose a layout) are not > configured properly by the distribution and will fallback to qwerty. That's

Unresponsive maintainer: anujmore / Anuj More

2019-12-05 Thread Vít Ondruch
Hi Anuj, I am starting unresponsive maintainer process [0], because I am trying to contact you in attempt to fix [1] after years. Your last action I am aware of is granting permissions to rubygem-lumberjack [2], but that is already almost two years and unfortunately, neither your other packages

Re: Fedora update spam (was: [Fedora Update] [comment] nbdkit-1.17.1-2.fc32)

2019-12-05 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues/3831 -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread Marius Schwarz
Hi, Am 05.12.19 um 10:33 schrieb Lennart Poettering: >>> Also note that on Fedora Workstation we default to suspend-on-idle >>> these days. i.e. when you don't actually work on the laptop the laptop >>> is suspended and not reachable via SSH at all, hence adding >>> systemd-homed doesn't make

Re: Suggestion for Fedora change proposal: -Bsymbolic-functions default in LDFLAGS

2019-12-05 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-12-04, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: > Em qua., 4 de dez. de 2019 às 10:16, Tom Hughes > escreveu: >> If I understand correctly then it will also mean that LD_PRELOAD will >> not work for any call made from the library to itself, but would >> still work for calls made from other

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 2:56:22 AM MST Lennart Poettering wrote: > Uh, first of all plain full disk encryption like we set it up > typically on Fedora provides confidentiality, not integrity. For the > OS image itself you want integrity though, confidentiality is not > needed (after all

Re: Modularity and all the things

2019-12-05 Thread Brian (bex) Exelbierd
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 12:13 PM Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2019-11-19, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 4:42:31 AM MST Petr Pisar wrote: > >> Manual work. Random commiters skipping them. > > > > If your goal is to make it so that "Random commiters" are packagers, > that's

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Disallow Empty Password By Default

2019-12-05 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 12:57:15 AM MST Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > Let’s get real, in most businesses, the data will already be available > in a network share, a common database, etc. Trying to perform fine- > grained control checks on the mass of data businesses routinely >

[Bug 1763313] perfl-utf8-all not available in EPEL8

2019-12-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1763313 --- Comment #4 from Petr Pisar --- You need to enable CodeReady Build / PowerTools repository . -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for

[Bug 1761447] Fusioninventory-agent dependency problems

2019-12-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1761447 Emmanuel Seyman changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution|---

[Bug 1744690] [RFE] EPEL8 branch of perl-Plack

2019-12-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1744690 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED --- Comment #13 from

[Bug 1777007] perl-libwww-perl-6.43 is available

2019-12-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1777007 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Fixed In

[Bug 1774776] perl-libwww-perl-6.42 is available

2019-12-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1774776 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Fixed In

[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2019-12-06 - 96% PASS

2019-12-05 Thread vashirov
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2019/12/06/report-389-ds-base-1.4.2.4-20191206git7301d43.fc31.x86_64.html ___ 389-devel mailing list -- 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

[389-devel] Please review: pr 50769 filter validation option fix

2019-12-05 Thread William Brown
https://pagure.io/389-ds-base/pull-request/50769 -- Sincerely, William ___ 389-devel mailing list -- 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to 389-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

[Bug 1779901] perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.092 is available

2019-12-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1779901 Jitka Plesnikova changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In Version|

[EPEL-devel] el6_10?

2019-12-05 Thread Dave Dykstra
Why are el6 builds now showing up as el6_10? For example: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=39443320 In order to do fedpkg update I had to change the el6 in the first line to el6_10 by hand, otherwise I get an error Could not execute update: Could not generate update

[EPEL-devel] Re: el6_10?

2019-12-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 06:38:27PM +, Dave Dykstra wrote: > Why are el6 builds now showing up as el6_10? For example: > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=39443320 Because Red Hat pushed an update that changed the dist tag to that. :( > In order to do fedpkg update I

[Bug 1779903] perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.092 is available

2019-12-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1779903 Jitka Plesnikova changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In Version|

[Bug 1779900] perl-Archive-Extract-0.84 is available

2019-12-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1779900 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-2019-71bee7d558 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 31. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-71bee7d558 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list

[Bug 1779900] perl-Archive-Extract-0.84 is available

2019-12-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1779900 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |MODIFIED

[Bug 1779900] perl-Archive-Extract-0.84 is available

2019-12-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1779900 --- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-2019-5512be361d has been submitted as an update to Fedora 30. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-5512be361d -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list

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