Re: F36 Change: Remove Wire Extensions Support (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 10:38, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 03:59, Kevin Kofler via devel > wrote: > > > > > The Wireless Extensions support in the kernel has been long replaced > > > by the mac80211/cfg80211 support. Disable the kernel options and > > > retire the

Re: F36 Change: Remove Wire Extensions Support (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 10:54, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 10:38, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 03:59, Kevin Kofler via devel > > wrote: > > > > > > > The Wireless Extensions support in the kernel has been long replaced > > > > by the

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:17:30PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > I really *don't* think a manual, individual opt-out like this is a good idea. > > Imagine the scenario where a package maintaner unilaterally adds > "ExcludeArch: %{ix68}" to one of their packages. This might be an > honest

Re: Update of rust-svgtypes

2021-11-17 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 6:47 AM Rémi Lauzier via devel wrote: > > Hi! I will push the update for rust-svgtypes, done in a sidetag, in two weeks > unless there is an objection. A member of the rust-sig will have to update > rust-ttf_parser. if need i can update rust-owned_ttf_parser too. So ...

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Ahmed Almeleh
I see your point, I am a part of the Quality Assurance team here. +1 Making it easier on package maintainers +1 On retiring all i686 (32 Bit Systems) On Wed, 17 Nov 2021, 11:18 Fabio Valentini, wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:53 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Tue,

Re: LTO objects after build: Rebuilding vs erroring out

2021-11-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jakub Jelinek: > Or if we recorded all command line options we care about into LTO bytecode > (Optimization/Target options are recorded already on a per-function basis > but I'm worried about others), just have a gcc driver mode that turns > a non-fat LTO object into normal non-LTO object. I

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 03:05:37PM -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote: > Fabio Valentini writes: > > > Since it's not practical to modify almost all Fedora packages to add > > "ExcludeArch: %{ix86}" to them, we'd probably need a different > > machanism for this. I have a vague idea: > > Is it really

Re: F36 Change: Remove Wire Extensions Support (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:30:40AM +0100, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > I didn't complain. I'm not opposing, yet I'm acknowledging that it is > not true that iwconfig is unused. It is very much used, if not just > for printing the nice summary that the tool provides when called > without arguments. IIRC

Re: Announcing LLVM Snapshot Packages for Fedora Linux

2021-11-17 Thread Konrad Kleine
On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 at 14:50, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 9:47 AM Jonathan Wakely wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 11:15, Konrad Kleine wrote: > >> > >> Dear Fedora packagers, developers and users, > >> > >> we have some good news for you: > >> > >> We are beginning

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:27:13AM +, Ahmed Almeleh wrote: > I see your point, I am a part of the Quality Assurance team here. > > +1 On retiring all i686 (32 Bit Systems) Did you see the part where we are using those packages for multilib? This would immediately kill Wine, Steam, and 32-bit

Re: F36 Change: Remove Wire Extensions Support (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 03:59, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > The Wireless Extensions support in the kernel has been long replaced > > by the mac80211/cfg80211 support. Disable the kernel options and > > retire the wireless-tools userspace utilities. Wireless Extensions > > only supports a

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:53:30AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 03:05:37PM -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > Fabio Valentini writes: > > > > > Since it's not practical to modify almost all Fedora packages to add > > > "ExcludeArch: %{ix86}" to them, we'd

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:53 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 03:05:37PM -0500, Robbie Harwood wrote: (small snip) > > Is it really not? This seems the easiest way to go about it, honestly - > > just have it be permitted for maintainers to opt their stuff out

Re: F36 Change: Remove Wire Extensions Support (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 03:49:55AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Users are going to miss the iwconfig tool. Not only is it still being used > out of habit (just like ifconfig from net-tools), but (also just like > ifconfig) it is also much more user-friendly. E.g., running "iwconfig" >

Re: F36 Change: Remove Wire Extensions Support (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Dunno, maybe we can keep wireless-tools package? Is it a burden to > keep in the distro? I guess the issue is that the tool(s) will no longer work if the subsystem is completely removed from the kernel. Would it be possible to ship the kernel with only wext

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
> > > Since it's not practical to modify almost all Fedora packages to add > > > "ExcludeArch: %{ix86}" to them, we'd probably need a different > > > machanism for this. I have a vague idea: > > > > Is it really not? This seems the easiest way to go about it, honestly - > > just have it be

Re: F36 Change: Unit Names in Systemd Messages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 09:06:49AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > Started Journal Service. > Finished Load Kernel Modules. > Starting Apply Kernel Variables... > Starting Create Volatile Files and Directories... > Finished Apply Kernel Variables. [...] > Started systemd-journald.service - Journal

Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2021-11-17

2021-11-17 Thread Dusty Mabe
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2021-11-17/fedora_coreos_meeting.2021-11-17-16.31.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2021-11-17/fedora_coreos_meeting.2021-11-17-16.31.txt Log:

Re: Firefox Hardware acceleration & VA-API how-to

2021-11-17 Thread PGNet Dev
VDPAU is not VA-API that's correct Setting VDPAU_DRIVER means nothing to Firefox because it is not using VDPAU. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/VA-API_1.0.0#Detailed_Description https://ffmpeg.org/doxygen/0.8/group__VDPAU__Decoding.html "libva-vdpau-driver which allows to

Re: F36 Change: Unit Names in Systemd Messages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread przemek klosowski via devel
On 11/17/21 13:49, Matthew Miller wrote: Finished systemd-modules-load.service - Load Kernel Modules. Finished systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service - Create Static Device Nodes in /dev. Starting systemd-sysctl.service - Apply Kernel Variables... [...] Would something like Started Journal

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 18:58, Peter Robinson wrote: [...] > What else is there that people care about in Fedora that's only i686? There are some old proprietary games with i686-only binaries. I'll check which packages are required by the ones I have. Regards, Dominik -- Fedora

Re: F36 Change: Remove Wire Extensions Support (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:51 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 03:49:55AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Users are going to miss the iwconfig tool. Not only is it still being used > > out of habit (just like ifconfig from net-tools), but (also just like

Re: F36 Change: Remove Wire Extensions Support (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:06 PM Solomon Peachy wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:30:40AM +0100, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > I didn't complain. I'm not opposing, yet I'm acknowledging that it is > > not true that iwconfig is unused. It is very much used, if not just > > for printing the nice

License changes in KiCad

2021-11-17 Thread Steven A. Falco
I am building kicad-6.0.0-rc1 for rawhide. As compared to the previous 5.1 series of builds, there are some license changes in the new 6.0 series, as follows: The main package changes from "AGPLv3+" to "GPLv3+" The doc package changes from "CC-BY-SA 4.0 with exception" to "CC-BY-SA" The 3d

Re: Firefox Hardware acceleration & VA-API how-to

2021-11-17 Thread PGNet Dev
On 11/16/21 22:48, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 11/15/21 12:03 PM, PGNet Dev wrote: launch @ shell VDPAU_DRIVER=nvidia MOZ_LOG="Dmabuf:5, PlatformDecoderModule:5" firefox I think you mean: LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME=nvidia firefox nope.

Re: F36 Change: Remove Wire Extensions Support (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 16:19, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:51 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 03:49:55AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > Users are going to miss the iwconfig tool. Not only is it still being used > > > out

Re: Firefox Hardware acceleration & VA-API how-to

2021-11-17 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 11/17/21 8:26 AM, PGNet Dev wrote: On 11/16/21 22:48, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 11/15/21 12:03 PM, PGNet Dev wrote: launch @ shell VDPAU_DRIVER=nvidia MOZ_LOG="Dmabuf:5, PlatformDecoderModule:5" firefox I think you mean: LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME=nvidia firefox nope. Take a

Re: FESCo election nominations are now open

2021-11-17 Thread Ben Cotton
Today is the last day to nominate candidates for the open seats on the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. To nominate yourself (or others, if you check with them first), visit: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations For more information, see the Community

Re: Firefox Hardware acceleration & VA-API how-to

2021-11-17 Thread Julian Sikorski
Am 17.11.21 um 15:26 schrieb PGNet Dev: On 11/16/21 22:48, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 11/15/21 12:03 PM, PGNet Dev wrote: launch @ shell VDPAU_DRIVER=nvidia MOZ_LOG="Dmabuf:5, PlatformDecoderModule:5" firefox I think you mean: LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME=nvidia firefox nope.

Re: F36 Change: Remove Wire Extensions Support (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 3:58 PM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 16:19, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 11:51 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 03:49:55AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > > Users are going

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 05:58:43PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > What else is there that people care about in Fedora that's only i686? Well, wine? I don't know how much 32bit wine is used these days. And not 'in fedora', but people always bring up steam when these disccussions happen. I

Re: F36 Change: Unit Names in Systemd Messages (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 01:49:00PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 09:06:49AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > Started Journal Service. > > Finished Load Kernel Modules. > > Starting Apply Kernel Variables... > > Starting Create Volatile Files and Directories... > > Finished

Fedora-Cloud-33-20211118.0 compose check report

2021-11-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-2024.0): ID: 1065838 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 base_update_cli URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1065838 Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Maxwell G (@gotmax23) via devel
Nov 17, 2021 4:56:36 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek : > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:53:30AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > [...] >> >> And obviously the advantage is that this can be done now, and doesn't >> require any new infra or maintenance. The only trick would be how to >>

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:07 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 18:58, Peter Robinson wrote: > [...] > > What else is there that people care about in Fedora that's only i686? > > There are some old proprietary games with i686-only binaries. I'll check

Re: F37 Change: RetireARMv7 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-11-17 Thread Josh Stone
On 11/16/21 7:05 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Realistically, they will just stick to Fedora 36 forever and just stop > updating the devices (or try updating them anyway and get no updates from > the server, obviously). > > Sticking an EOL label on a software release is not going to

Re: Announcing LLVM Snapshot Packages for Fedora Linux

2021-11-17 Thread Reon Beon via devel
Cool, how about a llvm-git package when it gets more testing? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Add a game grou;p to https://src.fedoraproject.org/groups

2021-11-17 Thread Reon Beon via devel
https://src.fedoraproject.org/groups Thoughts? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: RFC: Reduce number of packages that are built for i686

2021-11-17 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 16/11/2021 20:47, Fabio Valentini wrote: Our current approach, which is to "build everything but ship almost nothing" - just to keep x86_64 / i686 multilib working - is, frankly, very wasteful of computing and storage resources, as well as a burden on maintainers of big packages, which

[Bug 2020174] F36FailsToInstall: dropbox-api-command

2021-11-17 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2020174 Miro Hrončok changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME Status|NEW

[EPEL-devel] Re: Plan for EPEL-9

2021-11-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 17. 11. 21 19:50, Troy Dawson wrote: I'd say open a ticket. At this point, I don't know what the status is.  Some step(s) have not been done. https://pagure.io/fedscm-admin/issue/73 -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___

[EPEL-devel] Re: DNF replacement in EL 9?

2021-11-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 12:57, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 12:53 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > > > I was talking to a software vendor about there install instructions using > > yum instead of dnf for EL 8 and he took the feedback back to the > > development team but the response

[EPEL-devel] Re: Plan for EPEL-9

2021-11-17 Thread Troy Dawson
Looks like not yet. My branch requests are also getting rejected. On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:35 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 09. 11. 21 16:07, Troy Dawson wrote: > > The people on the rel-eng team that do the branches need to have their > > fedscm-admin updated with the correct patches. I'm

[EPEL-devel] Re: DNF replacement in EL 9?

2021-11-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 01:43:59PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > Further RHEL 9 documentation will center around the 'dnf' moniker, > eventually transitioning away from yum. Thus completing my long, slow loss of this argument. :) Oh well! dnf it is! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

[EPEL-devel] Re: Plan for EPEL-9

2021-11-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 09. 11. 21 16:07, Troy Dawson wrote: The people on the rel-eng team that do the branches need to have their fedscm-admin updated with the correct patches.  I'm told that should happen today or tomorrow. Did this actually happen? My branch request was closed repeatedly:

[EPEL-devel] Re: Plan for EPEL-9

2021-11-17 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 17. 11. 21 19:41, Troy Dawson wrote: Looks like not yet.  My branch requests are also getting rejected. I see this comment: https://pagure.io/fedscm-admin/pull-request/72#comment-157918 It seems like a release is needed. Should I open a ticket? Or a backport PR to

[EPEL-devel] Re: Plan for EPEL-9

2021-11-17 Thread Troy Dawson
I'd say open a ticket. At this point, I don't know what the status is. Some step(s) have not been done. On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 10:44 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 17. 11. 21 19:41, Troy Dawson wrote: > > Looks like not yet. My branch requests are also getting rejected. > > I see this comment:

[Bug 1986164] perl-Test2-Suite-0.000141 is available

2021-11-17 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1986164 --- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-2021-71ba85f6b8 has been pushed to the Fedora 34 testing repository. Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command: `sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing

[Bug 2023554] perl-Test2-Suite-0.000142 is available

2021-11-17 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2023554 --- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-2021-038ad5ed5f has been pushed to the Fedora 35 testing repository. Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command: `sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing

[Bug 2023554] perl-Test2-Suite-0.000142 is available

2021-11-17 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2023554 --- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-2021-71ba85f6b8 has been pushed to the Fedora 34 testing repository. Soon you'll be able to install the update with the following command: `sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing

[Bug 2021296] perl-HTTP-Message-6.34 is available

2021-11-17 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2021296 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Fixed In Version|

[Bug 2021296] perl-HTTP-Message-6.34 is available

2021-11-17 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2021296 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version|perl-HTTP-Message-6.34-1.fc |perl-HTTP-Message-6.34-1.fc

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing report

2021-11-17 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 8 Security updates need testing: Age URL 6 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2021-8e8cdfca46 js-jquery-ui-1.13.0-1.el8 6 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2021-a21f8fb6c8 java-latest-openjdk-17.0.1.0.12-3.rolling.el8

[EPEL-devel] EPEL8 buildroot removed CentOS Devel repo

2021-11-17 Thread Troy Dawson
Since the CentOS Devel repo was first created, it has been a part of the EPEL8 buildroot. It supplied some of the missing devel packages that were not in any of the RHEL 8 public repos. It was a good concept, and did help some, but it didn't completely fix the problem. EPEL eventually came up

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing report

2021-11-17 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 7 Security updates need testing: Age URL 61 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2021-f005e1b879 debmirror-2.35-1.el7 6 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2021-6d0e7309d6 wordpress-5.1.11-1.el7 The following builds have