Re: DHCPv6 support in Network Manager isn't RFC compliant

2011-07-29 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, Tore Anderson wrote: There's two potential explanations for that that I'm aware of: 1) The «Require IPv4 for this connection to complete» NM setting is unfortunately checked by default, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538499 and

Re: Orphaning dnsmasq

2011-08-22 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Stephen Gallagher wrote: (Sent on behalf of jima, the former owner) The dnsmasq package in Fedora has now been orphaned. This package is in need of a new maintainer and should not be allowed to lapse, as it is a critical component of the virtualization features. It is

Re: Orphaning dnsmasq

2011-08-25 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Ian Pilcher wrote: On 08/22/2011 06:35 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: If it could also not grab port 0.0.0.0:53 in the future, that would be great. I'd like to work with whichever libvirt developer takes this package on. Are you talking about dnsmasq or the way that libvirt

Re: Orphaning dnsmasq

2011-08-25 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, Tomas Mraz wrote: 3) I mostly don't need/want any DNS/DHCP in my bridged setup, but it still configures and starts dnsmasq (at least on F14 using virt-manager) (eg I have a /28 bridges to eth1 with static IPs, I don't want it) On a non-bridged setup it listens

Re: Orphaning dnsmasq

2011-08-25 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, Thomas Moschny wrote: 2011/8/25 Paul Wouters p...@xelerance.com: Again, this is based on f14, not f15/f16. I am not sure how much this has been addressed. But if we want DNSSEC validation on the endnode, at the very least 127.0.0.1:53 needs to be left free. Are you

Re: Orphaning dnsmasq

2011-08-25 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: libvirt's dnsmasq will never be grabbing any 127.0.0.1 address. It is In my experiments it did not, and the issue instead was that the other DNS server [1] wanted to grab port 53 on *all* interfaces. Yeah, that is the normal problem people see.

Re: Best practices for patch management on RPM based packages?

2011-09-06 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, Richard Shaw wrote: Most of the packages I work with have very few patches so it's not all that difficult, but there are a couple of packages I'm working with that have a lot of patches and one of them has a very active upstream (which is a good thing!) but that also means

Looking for dnssec-triggerd alpha testers!

2011-09-17 Thread Paul Wouters
Hi developers of NM and Fedora, We are trying to get DNSSEC validation on the end nodes. One way of doing that is to run a caching resolver on every host, but that strains the DNS infrastructure because all DNS caches would be circumvented. Since DNSSEC data is signed, you can obtain it via

Re: Looking for dnssec-triggerd alpha testers!

2011-09-18 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 18 Sep 2011, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: We are trying to get DNSSEC validation on the end nodes. One way of doing that is to run a caching resolver on every host, but that strains the DNS infrastructure because all DNS caches would be circumvented. However, there are many networks out

Re: Looking for dnssec-triggerd alpha testers!

2011-09-21 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Adam Tkac wrote: this is a great idea and work. We talked (inside Red Hat) about similar approach how to secure the clients but this proposal is better, ready for use, and I like it. Great. Please test and give us feedback :) The only one question for discussion is if

Re: Looking for dnssec-triggerd alpha testers!

2011-09-21 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Tomas Mraz wrote: solve a part of the problem how can you even consider removing the ability for disabling dnssec when implementing and deploying and running dnssec increases the complexity times hundred and people and isp's alike cant even implement and properly run a

Re: Looking for dnssec-triggerd alpha testers!

2011-09-22 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011, Dan Williams wrote: But I'm not really familiar with unbound. Is it a long-running service? Yes, It's a fully dnssec validating caching resolver. You start it at boot and leave it running. What does its config file look like? Does it re-read config data on SIGHUP? You

Re: Looking for dnssec-triggerd alpha testers!

2011-09-22 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011, Dan Williams wrote: You properly talk to it via unbound-control, which uses SSL certs between it and the daemon. No need to re-write config files or send it weirdo signals. Ok, this part mystifies me. I assume it just has a TCP socket listening that you talk to it on?

Re: yubikey

2011-10-11 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: As far as I know if you burn the key you will lose the ability to use the yubikey's servers and I'm guessing coincidentally the lastpass as well. I have seen that you are allowed to upload a new key to their servers to restore its useability. So

VerifyHostKeyDNS, was Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-12 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, Kevin Fenzi wrote: * DO verify ssh host keys via dnssec protected dns. ( .ssh/config: VerifyHostKeyDNS yes) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=180277 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730558 You can't tell us to use this while at the same time refusing

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-12 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, Adam Williamson wrote: Reading between the lines of recent attacks, it seems likely that private keys compromised in some of the attacks were used to perform others. (No-one's come out and officially said this yet but it seems pretty obvious from the subtext of some of

Re: VerifyHostKeyDNS, was Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-12 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, Tomas Mraz wrote: Except nobody says or said that DNS without DNSSEC leads to the automatic connection with such setting. I answered that multiple times, including today with a vast amount of screen pasting into https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=180277 to show

Re: VerifyHostKeyDNS, was Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Tomas Mraz wrote: And if this malicious DNS administrator controls the caching nameserver you're using for DNS queries, he can present you ANY data even 'valid' fake DNSSEC data. This is not generally true. Resolver libraries can (and should, IMHO) verify DNSSEC

Re: VerifyHostKeyDNS, was Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Tomas Mraz wrote: Nope, you do not understand what the dependency is. Of course you depend on the DNS to not be compromised to get the IP address of the host but you still can verify the fingerprint on the first connection if you got it by other means. That scales as

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:55:59PM -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote: Its the only right way to do it. As a general rule, a private ssh key should NEVER be transferred off the machine it was generated on. Yeah, who needs backups of private keys anyways! you have the same private key on more than

Re: Subject: IMPORTANT: Mandatory password and ssh key change by 2011-11-30

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Callum Lerwick wrote: Yeah, who needs backups of private keys anyways! We're talking about SSH keys here. There's no web of trust to lose. Lose your keys? Generate new ones. And contact my customers and what not to change it? Go past all the servers i have access to with

Re: yubikey

2011-10-20 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Nathan O. wrote: slot 1: fedora OTP configured with fedora-burn-yubikey -u slot 2: yubico OTP. Using the command line tool shipped with fedora gave me some problems, so I used the one from yubico

Re: yubikey

2011-10-25 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Mario Ceresa wrote: That's strange: the only two occasion I had a failed OTP were: 1) A configuration problem: (Yubikey not enabled, yubikey prefix not correct, using unburned key) 2) In a two slot configuration, whenever I press the button too long and it generates

Re: rubygem macro error

2011-11-09 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 9 Nov 2011, Alex Dalitz wrote: (CC:ed Fedora-devel, we're trying to figure out the ruby bug with %3d ri-doc names) I tried using yours and i had to make some xoes for it to build. It used ruby-gems instead of rubygems. The was a = - =3D caused by one of our mail agents. then it tried

Re: cisco vpn because of ipsec over tcp

2011-11-16 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, David Woodhouse wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 21:08 +0400, Lucas wrote: I am talking about ipsec over TCP. Everything can do ipsec over UDP, but none over TCP. But on my job for the security reason UDP is blocked, cisco vpn can do ipsec over tcp. That's entirely

scripts without she-bang in /usr/lib/packagename/

2011-11-17 Thread Paul Wouters
I have a package that contains ruby scripts in /usr/lib/packagename/ These scripts are only called/included via other binaries. If I do not make these executable, then rpmlint complains about non-executable content in /usr/lib/packagename/ and suggests I move it to /usr/share/packagename. If I

Re: scripts without she-bang in /usr/lib/packagename/

2011-11-17 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: When you talk about scripts, do you mean that the code calling these scripts does the equivalent of this (note, I generated my examples by reading up on ruby on the web just prior to posting... please allow for this perhaps not being real ruby code

Re: scripts without she-bang in /usr/lib/packagename/

2011-11-17 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: nod And also note -- the use of /usr/lib (*not* %{_libdir}) vs /usr/share is debatable (I said could above rather than should). The modules that go into the default search path, for python, perl, and ruby, for instance, all end up in /usr/lib if

Input needed: DNS on the endpoint: dnssec-trigger and the hotspot warfare

2011-11-28 Thread Paul Wouters
Hi, There is a package in review that allows one to simply run DNSSEC on the endnode by dynamically reconfiguring the locally running DNS server. This process is mostly invisible to the user. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754583 What happens is basically the following: - network

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Mike McGrath wrote: We also decided to allow yubikeys as an authentication option for the larger community to some hosts and services like fedorapeople.org or https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/. When asked for a password, just use your yubikey to generate a otp

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-07 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Mike McLean wrote: I guess in a way it is like using the same password, but people might not be thinking of that when they have a device on them that they use. Wow, that's a serious weakness. Are we sure about this?

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-08 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, Dennis Gilmore wrote: Even if you use your yubikey with yubicos servers. and auth against multiple different providers your AES key is never exposed to to any of the places that you auth to. That is correct if different service providers auth the OTP against yubicos

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-08 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: On 10/07/2010 10:58 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: One usage of yubikey I would like very much is as storage for the AES encryption key for disk encryption. I'd prefer the disk crypto key to not be on the disk at all, protected by just a passphrase

Re: Yubikeys are now supported

2010-10-08 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, Jesse Keating wrote: Note that yubikeys are not (yet) usable for this. You cannot request the AES key from it (AFAIK), only an OTP. And the OTP can also not be used to unlock an AES key on the harddisk because it is different for each activation. Can't you use one of

Review Request: libotr3 - OTR version 3 compat library

2012-10-12 Thread Paul Wouters
Hi, libotr is a commonly used instant message encryption protocol. It is used by a lot of IM programs. To resolve various issues, upstream had to break compatibility. While pidgin-otr has been updated to work with the new library, most other applications (kopete, bitlbee, irssi, xchat-otr)

Re: [pkgdb] GeoIP (un)retirement

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 22 Oct 2012, Paul Howarth wrote: On 10/22/2012 10:45 AM, Fedora PackageDB wrote: Package GeoIP in Fedora 17 has been retired by mfleming To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/GeoIP What's the story with this? Has something happened

Re: Updating vpnc-script for openconnect and unbound

2012-10-22 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012, Erinn Looney-Triggs wrote: I haven't been able to get a lot of traction with this, but I figured a shot at this mailing list might help. I have written a patch against the Fedora 18 version of vpnc-script to allow it to detect that unbound is running and to set forwarders

heads up: libotr3 landing in fedora

2012-10-26 Thread Paul Wouters
Hi, I've built libotr3 as a compat package in rawhide and f18/f17 to prepare for the API change between libotr-3 and libotr-4. Applications using libotr that have not been ported to the new libotr-4 should change their Requires: libotr to Requires: libotr3, so they won't break when libotr, now

Re: 3D printing in Fedora

2012-10-29 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012, Miro Hrončok wrote: I am involved in a student group on FIT of Czech Technical University in Prague - in that group, we focus on 3D printing (RepRap). At this point, I would like to gather people interested in 3D printing and eventually create a 3D printing SIG. Would

Re: Self Introduction

2012-11-29 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Troy C wrote: I've requested co-maintainer ship to bring this package up to speed again. Thanks for the patches in the bugzilla. Paul I would like to do whatever it takes to bring lsyncd, one of the packages announced as abandoned in [1], up-to-date in EPEL. The specs

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

2012-12-20 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: All this for the rather questionable benefit of having a specifically defined place for helper-scripts-not-meant-to-be-executed-directly, which gains us...what, exactly, over just putting them in /usr/lib/(appname) or /usr/share/(appname) or whatever?

Re: About repo option in kickstart file

2012-12-25 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012, Sergio Belkin wrote: I've created and appended an repo option to a kickstart file, then I've created an iso with livecd-creator and it works fine. Packages of that repo are installed in the ISO file. The problem is that the repo file is not created in the installed system

texlua running for 8+ hours using 5GB of ram on yum update? (texlive-context-bin bug?)

2012-12-29 Thread Paul Wouters
My yum update on f18 took about 20 minutes installing 3380 packages. Cleanup: bash-4.2.39-1.fc18.x86_64 3377/3380 Cleanup: nss-softokn-freebl-3.14-5.fc18 3378/3380 Cleanup: glibc-2.16-24.fc18 3379/3380 Cleanup: tzdata-2012i-1.fc18.noarch 3380/3380 And then it just sat

Re: texlua running for 8+ hours using 5GB of ram on yum update? (texlive-context-bin bug?)

2012-12-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Paul Wouters wrote: $ ps auxw|grep texlua root 8268 37.5 32.7 5515148 5369112 pts/2 D+ 18:56 8:30 texlua /usr/bin/mtxrun --generate $ rpm -qf /usr/bin/mtxrun texlive-context-bin-2012-0.svn26861.10.20121205_r28449.fc18.noarch What is this? The man page hints

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: NFStest

2013-01-24 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/NFStest = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NFStest Feature owner(s): Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com Provides a set of tools for testing either the NFS client or the NFS server, most of the functionality is focused mainly on

Re: Please test Tor Fedora 17 package

2013-01-27 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, Jamie Nguyen wrote: Please could testers give some karma: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-14650/tor-0.2.2.39-1700.fc17?_csrf_token=3663fa7adec7f8e5c46ed89b7a0b59cfab9844d9 Tor package for Fedora 17 has been out-of-date with security issues for 4

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: NFStest

2013-01-29 Thread Paul Wouters
On 01/29/2013 09:32 AM, Steve Dickson wrote: Ok... that sounds good... but what does that have to do with testing the NFS 4.0 and 4.1 protocol? Granted I know nothing about libreswan other than I just read in the libreswan-3.0/README, but just don't see how libreswan fits in... Note, NFStest

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On 2013-01-29, 22:52 GMT, Michael Scherer wrote: I am delighted to announce you that Red Hat has a policy of not tolerating drugs on the work place. So you should be utterly relieved to know that no people posting here with a @redhat.com email should

I am an unresponsive maintainer?

2010-01-29 Thread Paul Wouters
Hi, I just heard I might be put through the unresponsive maintainer process in Fedora? I'm a little confused as I've never received emails on this, and I'm always on irc and read fedora-devel and still perform very regular package updates. Can someone tell me what's going on, and forward me

Re: I am an unresponsive maintainer?

2010-01-29 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010, Paul Wouters wrote: Subject: I am an unresponsive maintainer? I just heard I might be put through the unresponsive maintainer process in Fedora? I'm a little confused as I've never received emails on this, and I'm always on irc and read fedora-devel and still perform

background information on the dnssec-conf issue

2010-02-16 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Paul W. Frields wrote: Fedora 11: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F11/FEDORA-2010-1696 Fedora 12: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F12/FEDORA-2010-1748 For those interested in some more background information about the chain of events on the dnssec-conf

pthreads linking in devel/F-13 issue

2010-02-24 Thread Paul Wouters
you can set both cflags and libs with that, no patch required. Best regards, Wouter On 02/24/2010 05:37 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: Hi, Fedora 13 will no longer implicitely link in certain libraries. For a full description see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UnderstandingDSOLinkChange

Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback)

2010-02-26 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Chris Adams wrote: EPEL has run this way for a while, and it doesn't seem to be a problem. EPEL does not have a 6 month release cycle :) Paul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback)

2010-02-26 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 08:15:43PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: 1) to fix a bug or add a feature the maintainer experienced/uses If nobody is complaining about the bug, then fixing the bug can wait until the next Fedora release. Do you have the time

Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback)

2010-02-26 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Kevin Fenzi wrote: A quicker way of seeing if a bug report was alread made, and more quickly being able to report bugs then spending 15-30 with bugzilla would help me in reporting more bugs. I like the automated crash reporting, though I'm not sure where they go, as I

Re: perl-Nmap-Parser license changed from GPLv2+ to MIT

2010-03-01 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010, Iain Arnell wrote: Whilst cleaning up some recently adopted orphans, I discovered that perl-Nmap-Parser has been tagged with the wrong license since August 2008. Upstream changed the license from GPLv2+ to MIT sometime back in 2007 and I've just corrected it in rawhide

Re: tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: We should make a stand and drop it from Fedora until it's not made up of bonghits and failure. (haha, yeah. thanks, here all week, etc) I'm not quite sure why it needs separate lsb/upstart init scripts

Re: tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: Enrico Scholz (enrico.sch...@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de) said: All the initscripts have huge and broken dependency chains. E.g. assuming I would use the vanilla fedora 'initscripts' package, then tor would still require[1] syslog, cpio, e2fsprogs,

Re: tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, Enrico Scholz wrote: It does not log anything because Enrico broke logging in tor package. Not that this was the reason, but it is the upstream setup to have logging disabled. Your comment is unrelated to this discussion because logging can be done into a file and does

bz532373, was Re: tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-03 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Enrico Scholz wrote: The tor upstream has filed that as bug report as well. ... and understand my reasons not to activate logging That is not true. It just decided not to pick a fight over that while more pressing bugs required you to fix them. ok; sorry that I thought

Re: bz532373, was Re: tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-03 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, Enrico Scholz wrote: Upstream reports a logging bug. ??? You and Noa Resare were the only one who reported the non-logging as a bug and some posts ago you said that you are not upstream. So, why do you think that upstream reported a logging bug? I pointed you to

Re: bz532373, was Re: tor dependency insanity.

2010-03-04 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Enrico Scholz wrote: [ two year tor insanity ] It's been two years. I'm done with this discussion. I'm not spending more time on the tor-enrico pacakge. Paul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-11 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Jesse Keating wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_Release_Updates_Proposal Here is the link. I'm going to start a new thread here. # Stable releases should not be used for tracking upstream version closely when this is likely to change the

Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal (was Re: Fedora Board Meeting Recap 2010-03-11)

2010-03-11 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010, Seth Vidal wrote: And it will be impossible for users running the non-sha256 bind to communicate with the sha256 supporting arpa? I guess I don't understand what do the users of the existing bind LOSE? Is ARPA expecting everyone to upgrade to a sha256 supporting bind

Re: COPR

2013-08-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 30 Aug 2013, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Or you could just map a directory on the host into /var/lib/mock/result in the guest, using the virtio-9p filesystem feature of KVM. Basically this gives you shared filesystem, but without any TCP/networking involved. NB, works with KVM in Fedora

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-09-09 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: I don't get it, either google dhe versus ecdhe performance http://vincent.bernat.im/en/blog/2011-ssl-perfect-forward-secrecy.html Let’s focus on the server part. Enabling DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA cipher suite hinders the performance of TLS handshakes by a

Re: Fedora/Redhat and perfect forward secrecy

2013-09-09 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 9 Sep 2013, Gregory Maxwell wrote: I am certainly not ignoring legal concerns. While there are some patented EC cryptographic techniques, the basic infrastructure including ECDH over prime fields was first published back in 1984 and is not patentable. The IETF has published an

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Blocking more retired packages in F20+

2013-09-17 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013, Till Maas wrote: I just blocked the following packages in koji for F20+, because they were retired some time ago, but not yet blocked: autotrust They might also lack a dead.package, but I will write a separate mail about this. Indeed. fixed. (autotools was merged

Re: phpMyAdmin: security bugs

2013-10-09 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Sérgio Basto wrote: 3.5.8.2 was released time ago with several bugs fixed: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/959946 Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 3.5.8.1 Welcome to phpMyAdmin 3.5.8.2, a security release. I updated all branches in fedora and epel to 3.5.8.2. These are now

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-15 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013, Dhiru Kholia wrote: In short, we could not distinguish the performance gains of prelink over the background noise in many (or even most) cases. So, I was wondering if you are aware of any use-cases where prelink provides measurable benefits. In would be awesome if you

Re: Fedora and ECDHE: now supported in OpenSSL

2013-10-15 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013, Reindl Harald wrote: since OpenSSL in Fedora from now on supports ECDHE depending software needs to be rebuilt to make use of it as well as libraries like NSS/GNUTLS should do the same and depending packages like Firefox needs a rebuild against refreshed NSS to support it

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-15 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013, Jan Kratochvil wrote: I just do not understand why to give up on that negligible optimization when it brings no disadvantages. Because you did not my previous email? - complexity - complicated prelink blacklists - complicated cron job exclusion with sysconfig - FIPS

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-15 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013, Jan Kratochvil wrote: - FIPS foot-bullets I really do not care and do not run FIPS. Your personal views are irrelevant. You are a package maintainer. When other people care about FIPS, you as a package maintainer should care about playing nicely with FIPS.

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-17 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013, Jan Kratochvil wrote: Workaround of that bug is one line of code, it just has not been accepted yet. And this is the core of the problem. No one has been spending 5 minutes on fixing prelink, yet people have described hours and days of effort wasted because of prelink. If

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-17 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: There's no reason to kill the package entirely. Some people still want to use it despite the current issues. So just don't install it by default. Reducing everything down to absolutes isn't helpful. Agreed, there's no reason to kill it

Re: prelink performance gains

2013-10-17 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013, Hans de Goede wrote: We could change the default /etc/sysconfig/prelink to default to no prelinking, then for people with an unmodified /etc/sysconfig/prelink, this will become the new /etc/sysconfig/prelink and the first time the cronjob runs after the update it will

Re: phpMyAdmin: security bugs

2013-10-19 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 19 Oct 2013, Robert Scheck wrote: On Wed, 09 Oct 2013, Paul Wouters wrote: I'm not a really user of phpMyAdmin so if someone who actually uses this package wishes to take maintainership, please do! you noticed, that you pushed yet another version of phpMyAdmin with a *.swf file

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-10-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013, Michael Schwendt wrote: /home/sandro/.local/bin in the PATH is not the default. Or is it new for Rawhide? $ grep PATH /etc/skel/.bash_profile PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin export PATH Exists for a longer time already, added in of the .fc16 builds: * Tue Jun 07

Re: Orphaning ipsec-tools and workrave

2013-11-13 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Tomas Mraz wrote: I've orphaned workrave and ipsec-tools in all active branches of Fedora as I do not use them any more. I will take ipsec-tools, as we use it for our interop tests with libreswan. Paul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: BuildRequires: redhat-rpm-config

2013-11-14 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013, Adam Jackson wrote: Yes. People hit this _constantly_ in a lot of ways. Like why am I not getting debuginfo packages. The theory is that you might want to build with some other set of macros, which is why rpmbuild doesn't just require r-r-c. I think this is foolish, and

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-12 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Kevin Fenzi wrote: * grub2 (no one is driving for this that I know of, but has some advantages over our grub1 if someone is willing to run with it, although it may be a lot of work to get it to where we need it). I understood grub2 is much worse for serial console

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-23 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Nicholas Miell wrote: The spec page says it'll be better, but is very vague as to why. Basically, I'm looking for a Doing this will keep $X kilobytes permanently pinned in RAM (in the form of dentry and inode structs) and $Y bytes in RAM or swap (in the form of file data

Re: Passing ownership of mingetty

2010-11-23 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Lennart Poettering wrote: That way most distros would only have to install one getty implementation, and can use it for both serial consoles and VCs. Yes please. Bonus points for anaconda configuring a working agetty login if the install console was serial. That is, run

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Petr Lautrbach wrote: - Many .spec files currently own subdirs of /var/run. These need to be updated to %ghost those dirs only, so that the automatic removal of these files/dirs on boot doesnt cause rpm to complain. The list of packages which own such

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Paul Howarth wrote: This remark makes no sense? If they already needed ghosting, then the mass-file should be needed? Files are directories are currently treated differently. The initscripts clean out files from /var/lock and /var/run but leave directories alone. So

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Lennart Poettering wrote: BTW, regarding at and cron: what I was thinking of but never check ehwther it is feasible is to make cron/at autostart a soon as some job is scheduled. I.e. use .path trigger to check whether /etc/crontab and user jobs exist, and start cron only

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-27 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Paul Howarth wrote: Is that needed if the package init script deals with this already? (eg xl2tpd will create /var/run/xl2tpd if it does not exist) If the initscript already does it then that should be fine. But Lennart prefers the tmpfiles.d approach as it's less

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-29 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: And when are the files and dirs created? Only when the system is booted? Yes. But then after installing an package that requires files to be created by tmpfiles.d the system needs to be rebooted before it can be used. Or will rpm call something

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: * after a reboot, the application is able to startup and write to a directory in /var/run and/or /var/lock. All daemons should already be able to do that (meaning init scripts dealing with non-existing directories) * The sysadmin would like to be

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010, Tomasz Torcz wrote: I would really like to avoid having THREE places to create directories in /var/run and /var/lock, those being spec file, init scripts AND tmpfiles.d Scratch the initscript. This would mean initscript would need to contain multiple

Re: noexec on /dev/shm

2010-12-14 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010, Tomasz Torcz wrote: We saw it includes /dev, /dev/shm etc. Is there any *reasonable* need to mount sysfs somewhere else than /sys. Or /dev with mode other than 755? Those all directories are mounted _identically_ on every Linux distribution down here. Why pollute fstab

Re: noexec on /dev/shm

2010-12-14 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010, Tomasz Torcz wrote: Of course administrator can temporary override: mount /dev/shm -o remount, nosuid Or even have it stick after reboot, by droping in /etc/systemd/system/ following unit definition¹: No. You either follow what is in /etc/fstab, or you disallow it

Re: noexec on /dev/shm

2010-12-14 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 14 Dec 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: It probably should be relnoted, sure. A relnote is not a substitute for proper documentation, logging and man pages. Paul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

again, was Re: tor-lsb -- hey, look, package script, don't complain to _me_. I'm just installing you. (fwd)

2011-01-28 Thread Paul Wouters
This nonsense is still present in th el5 package. Can a provenpackager please get rid of it. Bug 522053 is even closed now Paul Preparing...### [100%] 1:tor-core ### [ 33%]

Re: [GSoC] Avahi repositories for yum

2011-03-20 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011, Yin Qiu wrote: Have fun with your GSoC project! I'll briefly talk about my understanding about the idea. In the spirit of dividing the project into separate pieces, I suggest the final deliverables include: 1) a script to help repositories that reside on nfs or http

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-27 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 02:59:09AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: because the same hostname can have A and AAA records and the people commonly use ping (sysadmins) must be able to decide what they will test? Use -4 -or -6 parameters if you care to

Re: gmp 5 is stable

2011-05-12 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: On 03/19/2011 04:46 PM, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote: Upstream maintainers believe 5.x is ready for distributions, see thread: http://gmplib.org/list-archives/gmp-discuss/2011-February/004526.html 5.0.1 was released ONE year ago, and no

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-20 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011, Evandro Giovanini wrote: I'm not really sure I get what you're asking for here. GNOME 3 does have the classic (Win95-like) design installed by default and all you have to do is enable fallback mode in order to use it. 1) I was not aware of classic mode, it was clearly not

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-20 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011, Rahul Sundaram wrote: GNOME 3 menu has categories in the right as well but in any case, the common apps are in the dash and using a keyboard with a search as you type interface isn't the same as using bash. Let us not be dramatic. With Everything missing, most of it

Re: vsftpd in the news

2011-07-04 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 5 Jul 2011, Misha Shnurapet wrote: The backdoor payload is interesting. In response to a :) smiley face in the FTP username, a TCP callback shell is attempted. There is no obfuscation. I have a question: how does that relate to our package building process, and are GPG signatures

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