Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 08/03/2018 02:11 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > >> Dne 31.7.2018 v 15:04 Kamil Paral napsal(a): >>> In short, package managers on Rawhide would no longer replace >> $releasever variable with a numerical value (like '29' at >>> this moment,

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-03 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 3:19 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > And > you're not quite correct about this. The way that DNF gets this value > is through identifying the package that provides "system-release" or > "distribution-release" and identifies the version set for the package. > That version is what

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-03 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I just don't think it's smart to drop the release number > > thing and the fedora-repos-rawhide package. > > The number will keep working too. We can make that an alias in > mirrormanager. So, for example if we had this implemented now and

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-03 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:04 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > This might surprise you, but I actually prefer the current way. It > makes activating Rawhide an explicit action that can stay carried > forward. It's going to stay explicit and persistent, as explained by Kevin. > This change makes no

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-03 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 31.7.2018 v 15:04 Kamil Paral napsal(a): > > In short, package managers on Rawhide would no longer replace > $releasever variable with a numerical value (like '29' at > > this moment, soon '30'), but with 'rawhide' string instead. I

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-02 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 7:12 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On 08/02/2018 05:04 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > This might surprise you, but I actually prefer the current way. It > > makes activating Rawhide an explicit action that can stay carried > > forward. > > The same for the proposed change, once

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 08/02/2018 05:04 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: > This might surprise you, but I actually prefer the current way. It > makes activating Rawhide an explicit action that can stay carried > forward. The same for the proposed change, once you install fedora-release from rawhide you are on rawhide until

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-02 Thread Michal Novotny
On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:07 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 9:59 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > Hello devel list, > > > > this is a request for comments for a recent proposal I filed at releng > tracker: > > https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7445 > > > > In short, package managers on

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-02 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 9:59 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > Hello devel list, > > this is a request for comments for a recent proposal I filed at releng > tracker: > https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7445 > > In short, package managers on Rawhide would no longer replace $releasever > variable with a

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-02 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 31.7.2018 v 15:04 Kamil Paral napsal(a): > In short, package managers on Rawhide would no longer replace $releasever > variable with a numerical value (like '29' at > this moment, soon '30'), but with 'rawhide' string instead. I hope this > change will make life a bit easier for >

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 1.8.2018 v 13:09 Kamil Paral napsal(a): > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Vít Ondruch > wrote: > > I'm somehow missing the point probably, but as a rawhide user, > when I want to take some package from F28 (typically kernel), then > I have to do

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-01 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:36 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > I'm somehow missing the point probably, but as a rawhide user, when I want > to take some package from F28 (typically kernel), then I have to do "sudo > dnf update --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=updates{,-testing} kernel\* > --release 28", i.e.

Re: RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-08-01 Thread Vít Ondruch
I'm somehow missing the point probably, but as a rawhide user, when I want to take some package from F28 (typically kernel), then I have to do "sudo dnf update --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=updates{,-testing} kernel\* --release 28", i.e. the problem is that I have to enable the "updates"

RFC: make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide

2018-07-31 Thread Kamil Paral
Hello devel list, this is a request for comments for a recent proposal I filed at releng tracker: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7445 In short, package managers on Rawhide would no longer replace $releasever variable with a numerical value (like '29' at this moment, soon '30'), but with