On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 04:51 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
Cosimo, can you please also make sure that the Close button gets
keyboard focus automatically after I click on Try Fedora?
I now fixed this here [1], but it will need to be applied to the copy
of
that code that lives in anaconda
On 05/16/2012 03:48 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:
On 05/09/2012 09:34 PM, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 04:51 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
Cosimo, can you please also make sure that the Close button gets
keyboard focus automatically after I click on Try Fedora?
I now fixed this here [1],
On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 17:04 +0300, Kalev Lember wrote:
On 05/16/2012 03:48 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:
On 05/09/2012 09:34 PM, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 04:51 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
Cosimo, can you please also make sure that the Close button gets
keyboard focus
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 10:31 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
Cosimo, can you please make sure the whole window can be closed
easily
just by pressing the Escape key? That will help really help those
of
us who run LiveCDs many times per day, and it will not hurt other
people in any way.
The one complaint I
still have is that the window is really huge. I mean, it's taking
up, what, 80% of the desktop real estate?
That is just perfect, it's the welcome screen. It should receive complete
attention. In Ubuntu there are even no panels/widgets shown until you make the
selection.
On May 9, 2012, at 2:53 AM, Kamil Paral wrote:
That is just perfect, it's the welcome screen. It should receive complete
attention. In Ubuntu there are even no panels/widgets shown until you make
the selection.
Well I find it intrusive rather than welcoming, but this is not a hill I'm
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 04:51 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
Cosimo, can you please also make sure that the Close button gets
keyboard focus automatically after I click on Try Fedora?
I now fixed this here [1], but it will need to be applied to the copy of
that code that lives in anaconda now.
[1]
On 04/27/2012 09:58 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
What can we do in the *near* term to make it easier for people to find
the Install to Hard Drive option from the LiveCD?
It seems to me that the main objection against a prominent 'install to
disk' button is that it is not part of a normal
On May 8, 2012, at 10:43 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
It seems to me that the main objection against a prominent 'install to disk'
button is that it is not part of a normal desktop workflow---if someone would
just routinely use a Live CD, it seems rude to show them an irrelevant
'install'
Dne 3.5.2012 22:22, Cosimo Cecchi napsal(a):
Hi all,
Yesterday night I noticed an IRC conversation on #fedora-desktop
about this, and suggested that an actual window would be a lot
better than a notification.
Kalev, Matthias and the people there agreed with me, so I went
ahead and wrote some
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 12:50 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
On 04/27/2012 08:58 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
The whole thing is clearly a mess that needs some high level
streamlining, from the entire process of
Perhaps he was just not aware of these objections. Although I could not
speak for him but it's at least a possible explanation for the proposal.
Johannes
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 12:50 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
Hey,
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 18:15 -0400, Ray Strode wrote:
Looking I see this:
// provided by the 'anaconda' package
anacondaApp = Gio.DesktopAppInfo.new('anaconda.desktop');
if (!anacondaApp)
anacondaApp = Gio.DesktopAppInfo.new('liveinst.desktop');
I think you only want
Hey again,
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Cosimo Cecchi cosi...@gnome.org wrote:
// provided by the 'anaconda' package
anacondaApp = Gio.DesktopAppInfo.new('anaconda.desktop');
if (!anacondaApp)
anacondaApp = Gio.DesktopAppInfo.new('liveinst.desktop');
I think you only want
Hi all,
Yesterday night I noticed an IRC conversation on #fedora-desktop
about this, and suggested that an actual window would be a lot
better than a notification.
Kalev, Matthias and the people there agreed with me, so I went
ahead and wrote some code that does just that [1].
Is there enough time to set up project in
transifex (or whatever is Fedora using) and have this translated
before F17 release?
Perhaps we can. Not sure if there's enough time for that.
What's the use case for translations? I'll note that there's no way
to
select the language in the
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 10:31 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
Cosimo, can you please make sure the whole window can be closed easily
just by pressing the Escape key? That will help really help those of
us who run LiveCDs many times per day, and it will not hurt other
people in any way.
Okay, I added
Kamil Paral (kpa...@redhat.com) said:
Good call. I thought people could choose language in the isolinux menu before
boot. They can't. So maybe we don't need any translations at all.
It's weird though. Do we really have no localized livecds at all?
They're in the l10n subdir of
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 10:51 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
Good call. I thought people could choose language in the isolinux menu before
boot. They can't. So maybe we don't need any translations at all.
It's weird though. Do we really have no localized livecds at all?
We don't ship any as
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 17:06 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 10:51 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
Good call. I thought people could choose language in the isolinux menu
before boot. They can't. So maybe we don't need any translations at all.
It's weird though. Do we
I'd also suggest merely indefinite article a instead of any.
Simper for translation.
How are the translations going to be handled, Kalev? How do you get it into
spin-kickstarts? Is there enough time to set up project in transifex (or
whatever is Fedora using) and have this translated before
Hi all,
Yesterday night I noticed an IRC conversation on #fedora-desktop
about this, and suggested that an actual window would be a lot
better than a notification.
Kalev, Matthias and the people there agreed with me, so I went
ahead and wrote some code that does just that [1].
Screenshots can be
On 05/03/2012 11:22 PM, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
Hi all,
Yesterday night I noticed an IRC conversation on #fedora-desktop
about this, and suggested that an actual window would be a lot
better than a notification.
Kalev, Matthias and the people there agreed with me, so I went
ahead and wrote
On 05/03/2012 05:22 PM, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
Hi all,
Yesterday night I noticed an IRC conversation on #fedora-desktop
about this, and suggested that an actual window would be a lot
better than a notification.
Kalev, Matthias and the people there agreed with me, so I went
ahead and wrote some
On 05/03/2012 11:05 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:
How are the translations going to be handled, Kalev? How do you get
it into spin-kickstarts?
Ideally, I think the welcome screen code should be in anaconda repo and
would be translated in there. But I haven't yet talked to the anaconda
people about
Yesterday night I noticed an IRC conversation on #fedora-desktop
about this, and suggested that an actual window would be a lot
better than a notification.
Kalev, Matthias and the people there agreed with me, so I went
ahead and wrote some code that does just that [1].
Screenshots can be
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 04:44:42PM -0400, Chris Lumens wrote:
Yesterday night I noticed an IRC conversation on #fedora-desktop
about this, and suggested that an actual window would be a lot
better than a notification.
Kalev, Matthias and the people there agreed with me, so I went
ahead
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 22:47 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
One additional touch of polish: is it possible to detect if we are running
from live CD or live USB and present left icon accordingly?
Had the same idea while writing the code yesterday, but ran out of steam
before thinking of a smart
Hi,
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Cosimo Cecchi cosi...@gnome.org wrote:
What do you think?
[1] https://github.com/cosimoc/fedora-welcome
Looking I see this:
// provided by the 'anaconda' package
anacondaApp = Gio.DesktopAppInfo.new('anaconda.desktop');
if (!anacondaApp)
anacondaApp =
On 04/27/2012 08:58 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
The whole thing is clearly a mess that needs some high level
streamlining, from the entire process of download from web page (or
receive CD from friend) to the on-disk install
On 05/01/2012 07:25 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
I've got to be honest here -- I don't like the wording of the
notification. /.../
Pádraig, Jared, Chris:
Thanks for the suggestions, I think these are definitely an improvement
over the original text. I'll reply with in line comments regarding
On 05/02/2012 08:47 PM, Kalev Lember wrote:
On 05/01/2012 07:25 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
I've got to be honest here -- I don't like the wording of the
notification. /.../
Pádraig, Jared, Chris:
Thanks for the suggestions
How about this as the main text:
You are currently running
On 05/02/2012 03:59 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote:
If you are ready is a bit redundant. How about.
You are currently running Fedora from live media.
You can install Fedora now, or choose Install to Hard
Drive in the Activities overview at any later time.
I agree, this is the simplest and cleanest
On May 2, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Tom Callaway wrote:
On 05/02/2012 03:59 PM, Pádraig Brady wrote:
If you are ready is a bit redundant. How about.
You are currently running Fedora from live media.
You can install Fedora now, or choose Install to Hard
Drive in the Activities overview at any
On 04/28/2012 12:33 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
I don't know how proposing and implementing a notification method of doing
the same isn't providing a solution, but you're welcome to your own cross.
Sorry Bill -- I'm
On 05/01/2012 02:55 PM, Kalev Lember wrote:
On 04/28/2012 12:33 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
I don't know how proposing and implementing a notification method of doing
the same isn't providing a solution, but you're
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com wrote:
I finished up the work on the notification and landed it in
spin-kickstarts, so it should be available with the next media compose
for both F17 and rawhide:
Cool, thanks.
This is how it currently looks after booting up
On May 1, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote:
You are currently running Fedora from live media. To install Fedora
to your hard drive, click the button below or the Install to Hard
Drive option in the activities menu.
You are currently running Fedora from live media.
To install
On Apr 27, 2012 11:34 PM, Jared K. Smith jsm...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Sorry Bill -- I'm confused here. Was a notification method actually
implemented? Was it enabled in F17.TC1? If so, I didn't see it. Or
was it implemented only for rawhide?
It was implemented only in the sense that
There seems to be at least some consensus that:
* The notification, unless permanent, is not an ideal solution here
because once it goes away, the user is in the same situation of
confusion as to how to install the Live Image to disk.
* The extension as proposed is not an ideal solution
Hi Kamil,
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 09:22 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
but they don't push on any other solutions.
A link from the http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora page directly
to
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Quick_Start_Guide/Fedora_Live_Desktop.html
?
To be
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote:
The whole thing is clearly a mess that needs some high level
streamlining, from the entire process of download from web page (or
receive CD from friend) to the on-disk install first boot.
While I certainly wouldn't
but they don't push on any other solutions.
A link from the http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora page directly
to
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Quick_Start_Guide/Fedora_Live_Desktop.html
?
I've spent 5 minutes looking for that direct link and I haven't
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 10:26 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
but they don't push on any other solutions.
A link from the http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora page directly
to
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Quick_Start_Guide/Fedora_Live_Desktop.html
?
On 04/27/2012 10:50 AM, Colin Walters wrote:
Hi Kamil,
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 09:22 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
but they don't push on any other solutions.
A link from the http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora page directly
to
Kamil Paral (kpa...@redhat.com) said:
I find it sad how desktop guys try to veto solutions they don't like,
but they don't push on any other solutions.
I don't know how proposing and implementing a notification method of doing
the same isn't providing a solution, but you're welcome to your own
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
I don't know how proposing and implementing a notification method of doing
the same isn't providing a solution, but you're welcome to your own cross.
Sorry Bill -- I'm confused here. Was a notification method actually
Chris Murphy wrote:
If not the button, I'd propose an enduring hack to restore sensible
desktop icon functionality and my right to a cluttered desktop.
+1
On the KDE spin, we explicitly kept desktop icons enabled (in the form of
the Plasma folder view widget) exactly because of this usecase.
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:52:38 -0400,
Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 11:55 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't see any improvement in this solution?
I've said from the beginning that I think the best solution is to show a
regular
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 16:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
That is obscure UI design, and therefore doesn't resolve the
current
UI obscurity. So I see very little efficacy in the idea.
To contribute something positive here, I went ahead and implemented
the
'oscurity'. See attached.
I
resistance is futile
On Apr 20, 2012 8:49 AM, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 16:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
That is obscure UI design, and therefore doesn't resolve the
current
UI obscurity. So I see very little efficacy in the idea.
To contribute
Hey,
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote:
I tried that out. For some reason the notification doesn't pop up after I
run the program, is that intended?
No, it should be shown in banner mode like in
http://imgur.com/Gk1Az(that's a screenshot of running the
Kamil Paral píše v Pá 20. 04. 2012 v 03:49 -0400:
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 16:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
That is obscure UI design, and therefore doesn't resolve the
current
UI obscurity. So I see very little efficacy in the idea.
To contribute something positive here, I went
On Apr 20, 2012 11:55 AM, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com wrote:
The notification is nice, but the only job it does is that it says the
live system is installable. It really doesn't help the user find out how
to install it.
The notification contains a button which is labeled Install. I
Florian Müllner píše v Pá 20. 04. 2012 v 12:27 +0200:
On Apr 20, 2012 11:55 AM, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com
wrote:
The notification is nice, but the only job it does is that it says
the
live system is installable. It really doesn't help the user find out
how
to install it.
On 04/20/2012 07:27 AM, Florian Müllner wrote:
On Apr 20, 2012 11:55 AM, Jiri Eischmann eischm...@redhat.com
mailto:eischm...@redhat.com wrote:
The notification is nice, but the only job it does is that it says the
live system is installable. It really doesn't help the user find out how
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 11:55 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't see any improvement in this solution?
I've said from the beginning that I think the best solution is to show a
regular window, either just autostarting the installer or offering a
'install or just try
On 04/20/2012 09:52 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 11:55 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't see any improvement in this solution?
I've said from the beginning that I think the best solution is to show a
regular window, either just autostarting the
Dne 20.4.2012 16:04, Tom Callaway napsal(a):
On 04/20/2012 09:52 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 11:55 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't see any improvement in this solution?
I've said from the beginning that I think the best solution is to show a
Tom Callaway (tcall...@redhat.com) said:
There seems to be at least some consensus that:
* The notification, unless permanent, is not an ideal solution here
because once it goes away, the user is in the same situation of
confusion as to how to install the Live Image to disk.
The
On 04/20/2012 12:08 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Tom Callaway (tcall...@redhat.com) said:
There seems to be at least some consensus that:
* The notification, unless permanent, is not an ideal solution here
because once it goes away, the user is in the same situation of
confusion as to how to
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 11:55 +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't see any improvement in this solution?
Negative.
On Apr 20, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
I've said from the beginning that I think the best solution is to show a
regular window, either just
On Apr 20, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
What about something on GDM level? There would be something like live user,
which would run just the live image and install user which would run the
anaconda immediately?
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-April/165275.html
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 13:55 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com said:
One angle on this that didn't get pointed out, I guess because anaconda
team apparently isn't reading, is that at least one person on the
anaconda team - I forget who - hates
However in the meantime for F17, is the installer Easter egg hunt
still on? It's way too obscure presently.
I did some minor tweaks, posted the code here:
https://github.com/kparal/InstallFedoraButton
and prepared a patch for fedora-live-desktop.ks.
I want to post the patch to
On 04/18/2012 06:20 AM, Kamil Paral wrote:
One angle on this that didn't get pointed out, I guess because
anaconda
team apparently isn't reading, is that at least one person on the
anaconda team - I forget who - hates liveinst with a passion and has
been proposing forever to kill it and replace
I did some minor tweaks, posted the code here:
https://github.com/kparal/InstallFedoraButton
and prepared a patch for fedora-live-desktop.ks.
I want to post the patch to anaconda-devel this week.
What do you thing about moving the icon to the left?
This has already been raised in
On Apr 19, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote:
What do you thing about moving the icon to the left?
It doesn't improve the UI, or discoverability, in my opinion. But it does
potentially conflict with the active application. The existing location seems
reasonable.
I think the name is a
On 04/19/2012 06:09 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Apr 19, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote:
What do you thing about moving the icon to the left?
It doesn't improve the UI, or discoverability, in my opinion. But it does
potentially conflict with the active application. The existing
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:
No, it is not. I've said so the first time, and I have not changed my
opinion. Make it a notification.
All this discussion is obscuring the original problem. Although a
notification is easy, if it is dismissed, it fails
On Apr 19, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:
No, it is not. I've said so the first time, and I have not changed my
opinion. Make it a notification.
All this discussion is obscuring the original problem.
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.comwrote:
In effect it may necessitate a reboot to get that notification back, in
order to know how to install?
Not if the notification is resident, in which case it will remain in the
message tray even after it has been
On Apr 19, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Florian Müllner wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com
wrote:
In effect it may necessitate a reboot to get that notification back, in order
to know how to install?
Not if the notification is resident, in which case
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 16:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
That is obscure UI design, and therefore doesn't resolve the current
UI obscurity. So I see very little efficacy in the idea.
To contribute something positive here, I went ahead and implemented the
'oscurity'. See attached. As an extra
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 05:20 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
One angle on this that didn't get pointed out, I guess because
anaconda
team apparently isn't reading, is that at least one person on the
anaconda team - I forget who - hates liveinst with a passion and has
been proposing forever to
Dne 17.4.2012 20:51, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 10:04 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 09:55 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Nathanael D. Nobletnathan...@gnat.ca wrote:
How bout adding/changing the icon for installing? Can we
One angle on this that didn't get pointed out, I guess because
anaconda
team apparently isn't reading, is that at least one person on the
anaconda team - I forget who - hates liveinst with a passion and has
been proposing forever to kill it and replace it with a choice on the
live image boot
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 10:04 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 09:55 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca
wrote:
How bout adding/changing the icon for installing? Can we not include some
text in the icon?
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 10:04 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 09:55 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca
wrote:
How bout adding/changing the icon for installing? Can we not include some
text in the icon?
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com said:
One angle on this that didn't get pointed out, I guess because anaconda
team apparently isn't reading, is that at least one person on the
anaconda team - I forget who - hates liveinst with a passion and has
been proposing forever to
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com said:
One angle on this that didn't get pointed out, I guess because anaconda
team apparently isn't reading, is that at least one person on the
anaconda team - I forget
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 07:51:05PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
One angle on this that didn't get pointed out, I guess because anaconda
team apparently isn't reading, is that at least one person on the
anaconda team - I forget who - hates liveinst with a passion and has
been proposing forever
Brian C. Lane (b...@redhat.com) said:
Not for F17. Maybe for F18 if I can figure out a way to do it that
wouldn't confuse the heck out of everyone already using live to do their
install.s
The reason why I dislike liveinst is that by launching it from a running
system the environment setup
Once upon a time, drago01 drag...@gmail.com said:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
I'm guessing that such a anaconda in a locked-down environment would
have to be installing packages from the network, since there certainly
isn't space on the disc for
On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
replace it with a choice on the
live image boot menu between 'boot a live desktop' and 'install'
I like this idea. Although perhaps slightly challenging to get concisely worded
choices that also don't cause confusion. It's possible Start
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Once upon a time, drago01 drag...@gmail.com said:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
I'm guessing that such a anaconda in a locked-down environment would
have to be installing packages
Once upon a time, drago01 drag...@gmail.com said:
Well it is not like you download it daily so ...
That would be an incredibly poor justification to cram two otherwise
unrelated things (live and install) into one image (if that is indeed
the idea of the anaconda group - I haven't seen any
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Once upon a time, drago01 drag...@gmail.com said:
Well it is not like you download it daily so ...
That would be an incredibly poor justification to cram two otherwise
unrelated things (live and install)
Obviously they
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 00:17 +, Ben Boeckel wrote:
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 17:54:46 GMT, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com said:
That really depends on what use cases we see for our live cds. In my
view, there's really only two:
The primary use
On Apr 9, 2012, at 6:36 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
I don't see how that would be hindered by autostarting the installer.
I definitely dislike the idea of installer autostart. I imagine my typical live
commentary with such a LiveCD as, WTF?! I didn't ask for the g.d. installer to
f'n launch!
On 04/03/2012 02:26 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:
I was quite depressed how hard it can be for a layman to find a way to
install Fedora from LiveCD environment.
On a more general note it would be nice to stream-line the experience from web
to installation.
Most of the hard parts are done, just a few
* on the Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 12:54:46PM -0500, Chris Adams was commenting:
| Once upon a time, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com said:
| That really depends on what use cases we see for our live cds. In my
| view, there's really only two:
|
| The primary use for a live cd is to install.
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The discussion died off, so I'll sum it up:
* Almost everyone agreed that current situation is highly unsatisfactory.
* We have several ideas how to remedy it, which include: top bar button,
notification and welcome screen.
* We have just a single implementation, which is the top bar button.
On Apr 6, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Kamil Paral wrote:
I think the best approach here is to contact anaconda team and ask them to
adopt the code. Ideally this would be a part of anaconda.
I understand anaconda is the installer. But doesn't the livecd-tools /
livecd-creator group determine the
That is a good idea that can be probably implemented very easily.
However, what is the benefit over a persistent button in the top
panel?
I believe its adequately provides a solution to meet all constraints
so far expressed in this discussion.
1) Notice on login with buttons!
2)
On Apr 4, 2012, at 1:35 AM, Kamil Paral wrote:
Doesn't it block any other notifications being displayed? Or won't subsequent
notifications hide it?
If we can keep it displayed until manually dismissed and it won't block any
other notifications to pop up, then it seems like a good
Chris Murphy wrote:
The problem is nothing shows up on Gnome 3's desktop, even items in the
Desktop folder (which is just...it's asinine there's no polite way to say
it.)
I agree with that. KDE upstream recently also dropped the default folder
view from their default Plasma setup, we (KDE
Matthias Clasen wrote:
So, we decided for F16 that we don't want to add extensions like that to
the shell that we ship on the live cd. It should be the default
experience.
I think that's a very bad (and dogmatic) decision. We should ship what's
best for our users (of Fedora), not what's 100%
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 09:55 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Nathanael D. Noblet nathan...@gnat.ca wrote:
How bout adding/changing the icon for installing? Can we not include some
text in the icon? Install Fedora somehow??
Actually... would it make sense to force a
On Apr 3, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Kamil Paral wrote:
You can see it here:
http://kparal.fedorapeople.org/misc/InstallFedoraButton.png
What do you think? Better than default?
How about Install Fedora since it could be installed to SSD or iSCSI etc.
I personally think it's definitely better than
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