Re: Looking for new urlgrabber maintainer

2020-02-13 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 4:37 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> Nothing stops you from writing tools to use it. :)

Can't argue with that :)
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Re: Looking for new urlgrabber maintainer

2020-02-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 10:10 AM Michal Domonkos  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 3:59 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> > Cobbler uses it still, as does Spacewalk/Uyuni. Some of my software
> > does as well, though admittedly I could replace if I wanted to (I
> > don't, I like urlgrabber's handling semantics :) ).
>
> Okay, fair enough :)  FWIW, I have to admit I've also secretly liked
> urlgrabber's semantics. (I just don't happen to have a use-case for it
> anymore, with YUM being gone now.)

Nothing stops you from writing tools to use it. :)



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Re: Looking for new urlgrabber maintainer

2020-02-13 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 3:59 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> Cobbler uses it still, as does Spacewalk/Uyuni. Some of my software
> does as well, though admittedly I could replace if I wanted to (I
> don't, I like urlgrabber's handling semantics :) ).

Okay, fair enough :)  FWIW, I have to admit I've also secretly liked
urlgrabber's semantics. (I just don't happen to have a use-case for it
anymore, with YUM being gone now.)
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Re: Looking for new urlgrabber maintainer

2020-02-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 9:46 AM Michal Domonkos  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:19 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> > Sure. Let's make it official. Though I'd love to still have you as
> > co-maintainer and other co-maintainers are welcome! :)
>
> OK, I just made a request:
> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9257
>
> As for co-maintenance, it still is "maintenance" and defeats the
> purpose of us trying to "get rid of it" :)
>
> BTW, since koji-containerbuild no longer depends on python-urlgrabber
> (see above in this thread), do we have any motivation for keeping the
> package in the distro at all?  I understand that SUSE actually uses it
> (so the upstream should live on), but not sure about the Fedora
> downstream package.

Cobbler uses it still, as does Spacewalk/Uyuni. Some of my software
does as well, though admittedly I could replace if I wanted to (I
don't, I like urlgrabber's handling semantics :) ).



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Re: Looking for new urlgrabber maintainer

2020-02-13 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:19 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> Sure. Let's make it official. Though I'd love to still have you as
> co-maintainer and other co-maintainers are welcome! :)

OK, I just made a request:
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9257

As for co-maintenance, it still is "maintenance" and defeats the
purpose of us trying to "get rid of it" :)

BTW, since koji-containerbuild no longer depends on python-urlgrabber
(see above in this thread), do we have any motivation for keeping the
package in the distro at all?  I understand that SUSE actually uses it
(so the upstream should live on), but not sure about the Fedora
downstream package.
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Re: Looking for new urlgrabber maintainer

2020-02-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:16 AM Michal Domonkos  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 5:07 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> > Umm, don't I already own python-urlgrabber in Fedora and upstream? Not
> > that I would mind co-maintainers, but I thought we already did this
> > switchover during Fedora 31 development...
>
> Oh, I almost forgot, of course.  We did talk about it.  After all, you
> made the release 4.0 happen, as a result of the discussion we had back
> then.
>
> We never made it "official", though, since "packaging-team-maint" is
> still listed as the primary maintainer on Pagure, which is basically
> what we're trying to change.  If you're interested, more power to you,
> just let me know :)

Sure. Let's make it official. Though I'd love to still have you as
co-maintainer and other co-maintainers are welcome! :)


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Re: Looking for new urlgrabber maintainer

2020-02-13 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 6:01 PM Martin Basti  wrote:
>
>
> On 12. 2. 2020 17:06, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:52 AM Michal Domonkos  
> > wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'd like to ask around if anyone would be willing to take ownership of
> >> the python3-urlgrabber package and its upstream repository[1]?
> >>
> >> For historical reasons, the project is de facto maintained by us, the
> >> DNF team (with the upstream repo hosted in our GitHub namespace).
> >> However, with the community's departure from YUM (which depended on
> >> urlgrabber) a few years back, we no longer have the incentive or
> >> capacity to keep the project alive, and are considering deprecating it
> >> in the near future, unless someone takes over.
> >>
> >> Now, urlgrabber has recently[2] been ported to Python 3, in an effort
> >> to maintain its legacy as a standalone general-purpose URL library,
> >> authored[3] by Jochen Breuer of SUSE in November, 2018.  It's the only
> >> component of the legacy YUM stack that wasn't dropped[4] from the
> >> distro in Fedora 31.  In addition to that, there currently is one last
> >> component in Fedora that requires the package; koji-containerbuild.
> >>
> >> That said, I'd like to address this request especially to Jochen and
> >> the maintainers of koji-containerbuild.  Please, let us know if you
> >> (or anyone, really) would be interested in the transfer.
> >>
> > Umm, don't I already own python-urlgrabber in Fedora and upstream? Not
> > that I would mind co-maintainers, but I thought we already did this
> > switchover during Fedora 31 development...
> >
> >
> Ehm sorry,
>
> it seems that somebody forgot to remove that dependency from
> koji-contianerbuild. At least it is not used in upstream I opened PR to
> drop it.
>
> https://github.com/containerbuildsystem/koji-containerbuild/pull/159

Oh, and I can see the PR has been merged in the meantime, which is
great!  Thank you, Martin!
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Re: Looking for new urlgrabber maintainer

2020-02-13 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 5:07 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
> Umm, don't I already own python-urlgrabber in Fedora and upstream? Not
> that I would mind co-maintainers, but I thought we already did this
> switchover during Fedora 31 development...

Oh, I almost forgot, of course.  We did talk about it.  After all, you
made the release 4.0 happen, as a result of the discussion we had back
then.

We never made it "official", though, since "packaging-team-maint" is
still listed as the primary maintainer on Pagure, which is basically
what we're trying to change.  If you're interested, more power to you,
just let me know :)
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Re: Looking for new urlgrabber maintainer

2020-02-12 Thread Martin Basti

On 12. 2. 2020 17:06, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:52 AM Michal Domonkos  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd like to ask around if anyone would be willing to take ownership of
>> the python3-urlgrabber package and its upstream repository[1]?
>>
>> For historical reasons, the project is de facto maintained by us, the
>> DNF team (with the upstream repo hosted in our GitHub namespace).
>> However, with the community's departure from YUM (which depended on
>> urlgrabber) a few years back, we no longer have the incentive or
>> capacity to keep the project alive, and are considering deprecating it
>> in the near future, unless someone takes over.
>>
>> Now, urlgrabber has recently[2] been ported to Python 3, in an effort
>> to maintain its legacy as a standalone general-purpose URL library,
>> authored[3] by Jochen Breuer of SUSE in November, 2018.  It's the only
>> component of the legacy YUM stack that wasn't dropped[4] from the
>> distro in Fedora 31.  In addition to that, there currently is one last
>> component in Fedora that requires the package; koji-containerbuild.
>>
>> That said, I'd like to address this request especially to Jochen and
>> the maintainers of koji-containerbuild.  Please, let us know if you
>> (or anyone, really) would be interested in the transfer.
>>
> Umm, don't I already own python-urlgrabber in Fedora and upstream? Not
> that I would mind co-maintainers, but I thought we already did this
> switchover during Fedora 31 development...
>
>
Ehm sorry,

it seems that somebody forgot to remove that dependency from
koji-contianerbuild. At least it is not used in upstream I opened PR to
drop it.

https://github.com/containerbuildsystem/koji-containerbuild/pull/159



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Re: Looking for new urlgrabber maintainer

2020-02-12 Thread Michael McLean
koji-containerbuild isn't maintained by the core Koji maintainers. That's
the osbs folks.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 11:06 AM Neal Gompa  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:52 AM Michal Domonkos 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd like to ask around if anyone would be willing to take ownership of
> > the python3-urlgrabber package and its upstream repository[1]?
> >
> > For historical reasons, the project is de facto maintained by us, the
> > DNF team (with the upstream repo hosted in our GitHub namespace).
> > However, with the community's departure from YUM (which depended on
> > urlgrabber) a few years back, we no longer have the incentive or
> > capacity to keep the project alive, and are considering deprecating it
> > in the near future, unless someone takes over.
> >
> > Now, urlgrabber has recently[2] been ported to Python 3, in an effort
> > to maintain its legacy as a standalone general-purpose URL library,
> > authored[3] by Jochen Breuer of SUSE in November, 2018.  It's the only
> > component of the legacy YUM stack that wasn't dropped[4] from the
> > distro in Fedora 31.  In addition to that, there currently is one last
> > component in Fedora that requires the package; koji-containerbuild.
> >
> > That said, I'd like to address this request especially to Jochen and
> > the maintainers of koji-containerbuild.  Please, let us know if you
> > (or anyone, really) would be interested in the transfer.
> >
>
> Umm, don't I already own python-urlgrabber in Fedora and upstream? Not
> that I would mind co-maintainers, but I thought we already did this
> switchover during Fedora 31 development...
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: Looking for new urlgrabber maintainer

2020-02-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:52 AM Michal Domonkos  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to ask around if anyone would be willing to take ownership of
> the python3-urlgrabber package and its upstream repository[1]?
>
> For historical reasons, the project is de facto maintained by us, the
> DNF team (with the upstream repo hosted in our GitHub namespace).
> However, with the community's departure from YUM (which depended on
> urlgrabber) a few years back, we no longer have the incentive or
> capacity to keep the project alive, and are considering deprecating it
> in the near future, unless someone takes over.
>
> Now, urlgrabber has recently[2] been ported to Python 3, in an effort
> to maintain its legacy as a standalone general-purpose URL library,
> authored[3] by Jochen Breuer of SUSE in November, 2018.  It's the only
> component of the legacy YUM stack that wasn't dropped[4] from the
> distro in Fedora 31.  In addition to that, there currently is one last
> component in Fedora that requires the package; koji-containerbuild.
>
> That said, I'd like to address this request especially to Jochen and
> the maintainers of koji-containerbuild.  Please, let us know if you
> (or anyone, really) would be interested in the transfer.
>

Umm, don't I already own python-urlgrabber in Fedora and upstream? Not
that I would mind co-maintainers, but I thought we already did this
switchover during Fedora 31 development...




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