Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-26 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 4:25 PM Kamil Paral wrote: > I'd accept the criterion as proposed (because we need it now), and do the > reorganization later (possibly when this cycle is over and we have more > time to bikeshed about best criterion layout). I'm fine with either adding > to the existing

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-08-04 at 14:47 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 8:50 AM Geoffrey Marr wrote: > > > At today's blocker review meeting[0], we ran across a bug[1] that we > > believe is bad enough to warrant blocker status, but as the criteria > > currently stand, does not violate

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-06 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 5:47 AM Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I'm really uncomfortable about the amount of crossp-posting, so I'm > limiting this to devel@ (I receive it) and test@ (obvious to me why > relevant). > > Kamil Paral writes: > > Adam writes: > > > > Arguably the environment from

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
I'm really uncomfortable about the amount of crossp-posting, so I'm limiting this to devel@ (I receive it) and test@ (obvious to me why relevant). Kamil Paral writes: > Adam writes: > > Arguably the environment from which they logged in is not > > "working as expected" if you can't then log

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-05 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:07 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > There's a sort of technical argument to be made that this is covered by > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Beta_Release_Criteria#desktop-shutdown-reboot-logout > . > That says "Shutting down, logging out and rebooting must work

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2020-08-04 at 00:49 -0600, Geoffrey Marr wrote: > At today's blocker review meeting[0], we ran across a bug[1] that we > believe is bad enough to warrant blocker status, but as the criteria > currently stand, does not violate any particular criterion. The bug in > question has to do with

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 09:18:56AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 8:48 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > Actually, I'd make this even simpler. We already have a Beta criterion > > related to logging out (among others): > >

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-04 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 8:48 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > Actually, I'd make this even simpler. We already have a Beta criterion > related to logging out (among others): > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Beta_Release_Criteria#Shutdown.2C_reboot.2C_logout > > So let's just include logging in

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-04 Thread Kamil Paral
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 8:50 AM Geoffrey Marr wrote: > At today's blocker review meeting[0], we ran across a bug[1] that we > believe is bad enough to warrant blocker status, but as the criteria > currently stand, does not violate any particular criterion. The bug in > question has to do with

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-04 Thread Christopher Engelhard
On 04.08.20 11:54, Paul Howarth wrote: > If you remove the "with multiple user accounts" then being able to log > in and out on a single-user system would satisfy the requirement even > if the multi-user bug was present, which wouldn't be very helpful. Hm, true. As usual, the devil is in the

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-04 Thread Paul Howarth
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 10:55:30 +0200 Christopher Engelhard wrote: > On 04.08.20 10:47, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > I would even go further and remove the "with multiple user accounts" > > condition. Even on a singe user system, I'd like to be able to log > > out and back in again. > > +1 on that.

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-04 Thread Christopher Engelhard
On 04.08.20 10:47, Miro Hrončok wrote: > I would even go further and remove the "with multiple user accounts" > condition. Even on a singe user system, I'd like to be able to log out > and back in again. +1 on that. Christopher ___ devel mailing list

Re: Proposal to Add: Log In/Out Blocker Criteria

2020-08-04 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 04. 08. 20 8:49, Geoffrey Marr wrote: "A system with multiple user accounts must be able to log in and out of said accounts as presented by all release-blocking desktops in their default configuration." I would even go further and remove the "with multiple user accounts" condition. Even