Msoffice on xo

2007-11-16 Thread tekelsey
Would it be possible to set up an inexpensive data center in china, put an application server together, and serve windows xp and ms office (at the $3 educational pricing), and then serve them through VNC on the xo, treating it as a thin client, to address those in some countries who may feel it

Re: A Clock project in Etoys

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 16, 2007, at 6:15 , Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~yoshiki/etoys/Clock.004.pr One way or another, please load it onto Etoys (on a non-XO environment, drag-and-drop from Finder or Explorer. On XO, access the URL with browse, copy it to a USB memory and resume it

Re: PIL on OLPC

2007-11-16 Thread linaccess
hi, I am not in front of my XO. As I could remember I did CTRL+ALT+F2 root (enter) yum -y install python-imaging CTRL+ALT+F3 yokoy On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:12:25 +0100 Cihan Akkurt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can someone explain how to install the PIL library on the olpc, for Image

[OT] Re: Egads! :-)

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 16, 2007, at 14:10 , Ed Montgomery wrote: As mentioned, any poster who wants to discuss education, philosophy, etc. email me personally, and stop cluttering up a dev conference with such drivel. Too bad there is no forum I am aware of that discusses education in this education

Re: Egads! :-)

2007-11-16 Thread Ed Montgomery
treating it as a thin client, to address those in some countries who may feel it is important to have children learn ms office and windows for employment purposes? Schools should be teaching the concept of word processing not a specific word processor but that is as far as I will go with

Ghost My new Activity need help.

2007-11-16 Thread Cihan Akkurt
Hello, I developed a new activity for OLPC and I would like that someone can check on a real machine. I need this test to find out if I have to install modules / packages before using the software. In my code, I use import Image (PIL), and I do not know if it is already installed by default OLPC

Re: Msoffice on xo

2007-11-16 Thread Walter Bender
For that matter, Google docs lets you import .doc, .ppt. and .xls files. They are already running a server. And they include sharing. Better to put our efforts in to continuing to improve our own offerings: Abiword (Write) is more than adequate for most needs; there is a simple spreadsheet program

Re: Msoffice on xo

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 16, 2007, at 13:44 , Walter Bender wrote: Etoys can view Powerpoint Not quite (but I admit Etoys is so rich that even I cannot remember everything). As far as I know, you can export Powerpoint slides to a series of images, and import them in Etoys to recreate the presentation. and

Re: Ghost My new Activity need help.

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
You can see what software is installed in the build logs, e.g. http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build286/ devel_jffs2/build.log and you can verify it works by emulation: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO The cwd is set to your activity's bundle directory, so you

Re: Telling time (was: StopWatch activity)

2007-11-16 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
Nick, At Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:13:34 -0500, nick knouf wrote: Bert Freudenberg writes: I question the very assumption that continuously telling the time is even remotely important on a learning machine for kids in elementary school age. Dealing with time is a critical life

Re: [Etoys] A Clock project in Etoys

2007-11-16 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
http://dev.laptop.org/~yoshiki/etoys/Clock.004.pr One way or another, please load it onto Etoys (on a non-XO environment, drag-and-drop from Finder or Explorer. On XO, access the URL with browse, copy it to a USB memory and resume it from Journal, Ugh, is downloading and resuming

Posted a bunch of OLPC SimCity stuff to my blog

2007-11-16 Thread Don Hopkins
I've just posted a bunch of stuff about OLPC SimCity, including some exciting discussion with Alan Kay about eToys, Robot Odyssey, Visual Programming, and teaching kids to program, to my blog: http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal Enjoy! PS: If you want to sign up to my blog to comment on the

Re: Egads! :-)

2007-11-16 Thread Todd Kelsey
Peace to you Ed. It is true that I have a fantasy of getting Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Linus Torvaalds to join forces and work with OLPC, but I am not an M$ troll. My PhD original dissertation topic is on open source multilingual content management systems -- exactly because I want to make it

Re: Telling time (was: StopWatch activity)

2007-11-16 Thread Jameson Chema Quinn
What I was suggesting though is that there should *not* be a clock in the Sugar frame visible all the time. +1 to including hooks to Sugar for frame-resident mini-apps. +1 to making the frame clock optional (turned on from the clock activity - another reason to keep it an activity) and

Re: Msoffice on xo

2007-11-16 Thread Todd Kelsey
thanks - yes - and because of the silly idea in my head of MS lowering price of MS office to $3 a copy. On Nov 16, 2007 12:38 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big question to ask is if you have any experience with education in China or if this is just your perception of what

Re: Telling time (was: StopWatch activity)

2007-11-16 Thread nick knouf
On Nov 16, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: Well, it seems that you are responding to a wrong message. Not really; if the question is whether or not there is a clock application that is standard on the laptop, implicit there is a decision as to _what kind_ of clock application.

Re: Telling time (was: StopWatch activity)

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 16, 2007, at 21:13 , nick knouf wrote: On Nov 16, 2007, at 1:57 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: Well, it seems that you are responding to a wrong message. Not really; if the question is whether or not there is a clock application that is standard on the laptop, implicit there is a

Re: Telling time (was: StopWatch activity)

2007-11-16 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
-1 to the idea that we should deliberately leave out features in order to encourage kids to program. O, ye of little faith. I don't see anybody said this, but yes, that would be bad. The environment should come rich set of tools/widgets etc. that make the environment rich. Several clock

Re: Telling time (was: StopWatch activity)

2007-11-16 Thread Mitch Bradley
This is a Color of the Bikeshed issue. Give it a rest. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: Sorry, quickie example

2007-11-16 Thread Ed Montgomery
Just a couple of quick examples, if you care about kids, and you care about their education, etc., then supporting M$ in any way, shape, or form, is not the way to go: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gatesx07jan07,0,6827615.story

Re: Telling time (was: StopWatch activity)

2007-11-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Nov 17, 2007, at 0:21 , Mitch Bradley wrote: This is a Color of the Bikeshed issue. Give it a rest. The clock discussion is, you're right. Reminding everyone that we set out to create an environment for kids to explore and construct is not. It's perplexing how few developers seem to