[Announcement] - speech-dispatcher package now available

2008-06-24 Thread Hemant Goyal
Hi, Fedora and OLPC developers can now download the speech-dispatcher RPM packages for testing/development of speech enabled activities. RPMs - OLPC Branch speech-dispatcher-0.6.6-13.olpc2.i386.rpm -

[Announcement] - speech-dispatcher package now available

2008-06-24 Thread Hemant Goyal
*Sorry for the Repost - *slightly more formatted email** Hi, Fedora and OLPC developers can now download the speech-dispatcher RPM packages for testing/development of speech enabled activities. RPMs - OLPC Branch - speech-dispatcher-0.6.6-13.olpc2.i386.rpm -

Re: olpc-dm ck-connector patch

2008-06-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/6/24 Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:09 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so I have a theory which I *hope* explains the whole thing. In Fedora 7 xinit had ConsoleKit support implemented as a patch:

Re: olpc-dm ck-connector patch

2008-06-24 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
2008/6/24 Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you change olpc-session to run sugar as: exec ck-xinit-session /usr/bin/sugar The COOKIE is set but for some reason ck still doesn't give us permissions :( After further testing it seem to work fine. There are some caveats on how the

Re: How USB's are enumerated on the XO

2008-06-24 Thread shivaprasad javali
The USB device that I am connecting is not a storage drive. so there is no way I can copy a file containing a unique UUID on the device. I just need one unique parameter for the device when it is connected to the system. On the XO according to the /proc/bus/usb/devices file It is the port no. But

SuperUser permission for the Driver??

2008-06-24 Thread shivaprasad javali
Hi, I have USB devices (not storage devices, just some usb devices), which I can use along with my application on the olpc. The driver for these USB devices are third paty drivers so I have to detach the kernel usb driver so that I can use my own driver for that USB device. For this I need

xo-get gives DBus No-reply for my .xo package

2008-06-24 Thread shivaprasad javali
Hi, I have created a .xo package for my application . When I try to install it through the xo-get command I get a DBus No reply error message for my .xo package. I also tried to install the activity through the Browser(By mailing myself the xo) and the journal activity with the same

reliably detecting if running on an XO

2008-06-24 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, can I reliably detect if my code is running on XO hardware? Is checking if /sys/power/olpc-pm exists enough? Is there a better way? regards, Holger, currently offline and on battery, therefore not booting an XO kernel on my laptop :) pgpqDv5jzUwGN.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [RFC] Unscheduled Software Release for SD Card Corruption

2008-06-24 Thread Robert Myers
Deepak, I've spent some time debugging trac #6532: SD corruption on suspend resume and propose that we provide some sort of update with a proposed workaround as this is an issue that has been seen by multiple G1G1 users. Doing a full USR may be overkill for this issue as we may just be

New faster build 2069

2008-06-24 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2069 Changes in build 2069 from build: 2063 Size delta: 0.13M -kernel 2.6.22-20080523.1.olpc.28f4cb6e780db07 +kernel 2.6.25-20080619.1.olpc.279b9db99a30fe6 --- Changes for kernel 2.6.25-20080619.1.olpc.279b9db99a30fe6 from

Re: SuperUser permission for the Driver??

2008-06-24 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Jun 24 2008, at 17:35, shivaprasad javali was caught saying: Hi, I have USB devices (not storage devices, just some usb devices), which I can use along with my application on the olpc. The driver for these USB devices are third paty drivers so I have to detach the kernel usb driver

Re: [RFC] Unscheduled Software Release for SD Card Corruption

2008-06-24 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Jun 24 2008, at 10:23, Robert Myers was caught saying: Deepak, I've spent some time debugging trac #6532: SD corruption on suspend resume and propose that we provide some sort of update with a proposed workaround as this is an issue that has been seen by multiple G1G1 users. Doing

Re: How USB's are enumerated on the XO

2008-06-24 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Tuesday 24 Jun 2008 5:18:52 pm shivaprasad javali wrote: The USB device that I am connecting is not a storage drive. so there is no way I can copy a file containing a unique UUID on the device. I just need one unique parameter for the device when it is connected to the system. Have you tried

Re: How USB's are enumerated on the XO

2008-06-24 Thread david
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, K. K. Subramaniam wrote: On Tuesday 24 Jun 2008 5:18:52 pm shivaprasad javali wrote: The USB device that I am connecting is not a storage drive. so there is no way I can copy a file containing a unique UUID on the device. I just need one unique parameter for the device

Re: Is my NAND dead?

2008-06-24 Thread Richard A. Smith
Dov Grobgeld wrote: Thanks. I did a copy-nand and the system is up again, but it still doesn't explain why the system wouldn't boot. Is there any way of debugging that? What build and what firmware are you running? There are a few different bugs that can cause a boot failure. Debugging

Updates This Week to the Sugar Almanac - Using the Datastore and More

2008-06-24 Thread Faisal Anwar
Hello All, First off, thanks to everyone who has been contributing to the almanac ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar-api-doc) directly or giving me feedback on things that need to be added or improved for accuracy. Please keep the feedback coming. Among many other additions, the Sugar Almanac now

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
I'm glad that Debian didn't break the rules for etoys. You're claiming to be open source, yet you've LOST the source code decades ago. Hacking up binary images is shockingly horrible software non-engineering. You've no justification for taking shots at gcc, which is entirely capable of being

fixing etoys

2008-06-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
Here are some ideas that might help you fix some of the problems with start-up performance, shut-down performance, open source, and software engineering practices. You're trying to do a persistant system image on an OS that wasn't really designed for it. If you were on an exotic system with a

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.06.2008 um 20:04 schrieb Albert Cahalan: I'm glad that Debian didn't break the rules for etoys. You're claiming to be open source, yet you've LOST the source code decades ago. Hacking up binary images is shockingly horrible software non-engineering. Sorry Albert, this just shows your

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Albert Cahalan
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 24.06.2008 um 20:04 schrieb Albert Cahalan: I'm glad that Debian didn't break the rules for etoys. You're claiming to be open source, yet you've LOST the source code decades ago. Hacking up binary images is

Setting up the mesh device

2008-06-24 Thread Sjoerd Simons
Hi, I'm currently working on adding support for the olpc mesh device to NM 0.7. From what i understand from David Woodhouse we should be able to really use it as two seperated devices these days (with the obvious constraint that it shares the radio ofcourse). Some testing shows that i can

Re: fixing etoys

2008-06-24 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
At Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:16:22 -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Here are some ideas that might help you fix some of the problems with start-up performance, shut-down performance, open source, and software engineering practices. First, Etoys' start up time is very fast. And shutdown/saving could

Re: Setting up the mesh device

2008-06-24 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 19:42 +0100, Sjoerd Simons wrote: Hi, I'm currently working on adding support for the olpc mesh device to NM 0.7. I feel sorry for you :) In some ways 0.7 has made it a lot better for you (concurrent device support) and in other ways it's made it a bit harder (more

Re: etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.06.2008 um 20:38 schrieb Albert Cahalan: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 24.06.2008 um 20:04 schrieb Albert Cahalan: I'm glad that Debian didn't break the rules for etoys. You're claiming to be open source, yet you've LOST the source

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Robert Withrow
John and others seem to be making the argument that unless something is technologically similar to GCC (in the way it is distributed, developed, and coded) it can't be --- picking a term --- open source. For example, Albert says that code has to be manageable by traditional SCM tools, patch

Project: Departamentos is set up

2008-06-24 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Fri, 23 May 2008 19:44:36 -0300, marcel r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Project Name: Departamentos Done. Your tree is here: git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/departamentos Please follow instructions here for importing your project: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Importing_your_project Let

Project name : Typing Turtle Activity is set up

2008-06-24 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:51:57 -0700, Kate Scheppke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Project name : Typing Turtle Activity Done. Your tree is here: git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/typing-turtle Please follow instructions here for importing your project:

Re: #7248 NORM 8.2.0 (: Speaker device has inconsistent behavior

2008-06-24 Thread Eben Eliason
4. is basically WONTFIX (would you like to open another bug for this so we don't lose it but still can close this one in good time?) When you've finished the rest, simply open a new ticket for (4), and then reference that ticket number in the closing message. Thanks! - Eben

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Robert Withrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John and others seem to be making the argument Only seem. that unless something is technologically similar to GCC (in the way it is distributed, developed, and coded) it can't be --- picking a term --- open source. [...] Not at all. The gist of

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 24.06.2008 um 23:12 schrieb Frank Ch. Eigler: The gist of the argument is that one can't currently know what's really inside an etoys image, except beyond what it itself tells us, This is indeed a valid concern. As I wrote before, an external tool could be written to examine what exactly

Re: Setting up the mesh device

2008-06-24 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
Sjoerd Simons wrote: I'm setting the ESSID on the msh0 interface indeed. But i never get an association event on it.. While i even get an association event on eth0 when it's not up (but with msh0 being up obviously) :) Seems i've got some more bugs to file Why would you set an ESSID on

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread david
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 24.06.2008 um 23:12 schrieb Frank Ch. Eigler: The gist of the argument is that one can't currently know what's really inside an etoys image, except beyond what it itself tells us, This is indeed a valid concern. As I wrote before, an external

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 25.06.2008 um 00:12 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 24.06.2008 um 23:12 schrieb Frank Ch. Eigler: The gist of the argument is that one can't currently know what's really inside an etoys image, except beyond what it itself tells us, This is

Yummy incron

2008-06-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
Looking for a (memory, cpu, power) efficient way to trigger events/scripts on the XS, I came across incrond. It weights ~600KB according to ps_mem.py, and it looks like the kind of tool we want to be using. There are a few processes I have on the XS that signal completion by touching a file in a

Re: [Server-devel] Yummy incron

2008-06-24 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Langhoff wrote: | Looking for a (memory, cpu, power) efficient way to trigger | events/scripts on the XS, I came across incrond. It weights ~600KB | according to ps_mem.py, and it looks like the kind of tool we want to | be using. There are a

Re: [Server-devel] Yummy incron

2008-06-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What it sounds even more like, to me, is any modern init system. For example: I'm very keen on new init systems, but this is not one. Given your opposition to DBUS in this context, you might enjoy :-) I'm not

Re: Setting up the mesh device

2008-06-24 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 06:09:58PM -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: Sjoerd Simons wrote: I'm setting the ESSID on the msh0 interface indeed. But i never get an association event on it.. While i even get an association event on eth0 when it's not up (but with msh0 being up obviously)

Berkeley Logo interpreter for XO

2008-06-24 Thread Brian Harvey
Berkeley Logo is a GPLed interpreter for the Logo programming language for kids. It currently runs under Linux (and MacOS and Windows, but it's Linux that's relevant) using an xterm window as the user interface, and a separate X11 window for graphics. It can run on the XO that way, but needs to

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Yoshiki Ohshima
After seeing that Jim Gettys and Alan Kay combined failed to convince a guy on a software issue, it is uncertain that how much I can add^^; But here goes: At Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:04:36 +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: Am 24.06.2008 um 23:12 schrieb Frank Ch. Eigler: The gist of the

custom kernel problem

2008-06-24 Thread Scott Douglass
Hi, I built and installed a customized kernel RPM following these guides: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Rebuilding_OLPC_kernel http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Kernel Unfortunately, after I boot up the custom kernel, the X server fails to start because /home is mounted read-only. My work around is to

Re: custom kernel problem

2008-06-24 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Scott, Unfortunately, after I boot up the custom kernel, the X server fails to start because /home is mounted read-only. It's a bug in the master series kernel RPMs (or rather, in the initrd that accompanies them). It's being worked on. Thanks, - Chris. -- Chris Ball [EMAIL

Re: [IAEP] fixing etoys

2008-06-24 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: Again, start up time is not a problem. Etoys start up looks a bit slow on XO, but that is because the DBus communication that has to be done. I frequently hear DBus being accused of latency. As badly implemented as it might be, I can't believe a daemon relaying a

Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

2008-06-24 Thread Jim Gettys
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 11:41 -0700, John Gilmore wrote: Jim: My point is somewhat different: the only way out of the compilation trust trap is another compiler. Unless someone has done this for gcc, it has the identical problem, and there are many possible upstream attacks. I see no

New faster build 2071

2008-06-24 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2071 Changes in build 2071 from build: 2069 Size delta: 0.13M -olpcrd 0.42-0 +olpcrd 0.43-0 -olpcupdate 2.7-0 +olpcupdate 2.8-0 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/faster-pkgs.html for

OLPC Packaging Wishlist

2008-06-24 Thread Michael Stone
Dear OLPC Fedora folk: In response to conversation at Fudcon, I've thrown up OLPC's packaging wishlist at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList#OLPC_Wishlist OLPC folks: please check to make sure that your work is listed. Also, please assist Fedora volunteers in any way

Re: [RFC] Unscheduled Software Release for SD Card Corruption Workaround

2008-06-24 Thread Kim Quirk
Thanks Deepak. I'd love to see the SD card corruption fixed, but we are just about finished with testing and are now in the release process for 8.1.1... so i recommend that we schedule this fix for the 8.1.2 release (if we do this release) and make sure it gets into 8.2.0, which might be the next

Re: New joyride build 2072

2008-06-24 Thread Michael Stone
-rainbow 0.7.13-1.olpc2 +rainbow 0.7.5.11.20080104git6c25f7-1.olpc2 What's with the major rainbow regression? Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

Re: SuperUser permission for the Driver??

2008-06-24 Thread shivaprasad javali
The problem is that when I launch the application from the activity taskbar(the activity icons at the bottom of the screen) It will run under normal user privileges(right??). But for the application to work properly the USB driver has to run under superuser privileges. So I have to figure out how

Re: SuperUser permission for the Driver??

2008-06-24 Thread James Cameron
So it is root UID you need for a user-space program, not a kernel driver, I see. Have you considered setuid? -- James Cameronmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: New joyride build 2072

2008-06-24 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday 25 June 2008, Michael Stone wrote: -rainbow 0.7.13-1.olpc2 +rainbow 0.7.5.11.20080104git6c25f7-1.olpc2 What's with the major rainbow regression? You are probably lucky its even in the build. my guess its in a joyride repo. and has not been built for OLPC-3. -- Dennis Gilmore