New joyride build 2287

2008-08-12 Thread Build Announcer v2
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Re: New wireless/mesh icon info testers needed (#2866, #6995)

2008-08-12 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 08:21:55AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: Thanks very much! If you have any comments on how I could have made it easier for you to test [...] I have serious suggestions. Here is what happened: -bash-3.2# git-clone git://dev.laptop.org/users/mdengler/sugar xo-sugar-2866

Java Support

2008-08-12 Thread Greg Smith
Hi All, Do we support Java in our browser? I may have a large opportunity in the Americas dependent on our ability to support their application which I believe requires Java. I did read this page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Java Is there any news or latest thinking since then? Thanks, Greg S

Journal activity profiling

2008-08-12 Thread riccardo
Hi! Testcase: Fill the journal with hundreds of entries and automate the GtkScrollWindow in the journal to scroll one entry at time on a timeout. Build: joyride-2281 + Macro investigation of cpu usage A picker graph taken during the test can be found at:

New joyride build 2288

2008-08-12 Thread Build Announcer v2
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Re: New wireless/mesh icon info testers needed (#2866, #6995)

2008-08-12 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 07:02:49PM +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 08:21:55AM +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: Thanks very much! If you have any comments on how I could have made it easier for you to test [...] I have serious suggestions. Thanks. They are valued. git

New faster build 2288

2008-08-12 Thread Build Announcer v2
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Re: New wireless/mesh icon info testers needed (#2866, #6995)

2008-08-12 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Martin Dengler wrote: Thanks very much! If you have any comments on how I could have made it easier for you to test (was using git more onerous than the traditional here's a patch, cd /to/here ; patch -px mypatch.txt approach?) I'd love to hear how to do that. As I work with my git clone

Re: Java Support

2008-08-12 Thread Robert Myers
Greg, Do we support Java in our browser? I may have a large opportunity in the Americas dependent on our ability to support their application which I believe requires Java. I did read this page: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Java Is there any news or latest thinking since then? The

Re: First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-12 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Richard A. Smith wrote: Ton van Overbeek wrote: - The polling of the EC every 30 seconds has disappeared. At least it does not show up in the dmesg output. - More important, the touchpad seems to behave much better. May be related to the reduced polling of the EC. That makes sense if

RT performance, joyride-2288

2008-08-12 Thread Victor Lazzarini
Hello everyone, I can detect a great improvement on RT performance for joyride-2288, less xruns on sugar activities (testing a midi activity). There are still xruns happening (esp. when there is something happening such as a mouse movement etc.) but it is less. In the terminal with --sched I

Re: First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-12 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 09:17 -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote: I might have spoken too soon. Yesterday the touchpad jumping was back in joyride-2280. In my initial run of joyride-2280 the battery was full and the XO was connected to the mains power. This time I was on the battery and the

Re: All activities (except Terminal and Journal) are always LTR, despite the locale (Khaled Hosny)

2008-08-12 Thread Khaled Hosny
I was waiting for some one to confirm this regression, any way I filed ticket #7921 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Greg Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael et al, Can someone look at this regression ASAP? Khaled, Can you file a bug to track this? Thanks, Greg S

Re: XO keeps staring at its own belly button

2008-08-12 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
By calling 'top' in a Terminal session when the 100%-CPU-using client is running, I've observed that during unresponsive episodes the 'top' display freezes -- in other words, it is not just user input, but also running programs, that are superseded. Also, the unresponsive episodes are

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Trac #7480: Need to 'reset' the network configurations - short term fix

2008-08-12 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:26:08AM +0200, Morgan Collett wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 03:31, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Attached is a patch which adds a 'reset network configuration' button to the network tab of the sugar control panel. Clicking this button simply rotates the

Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Dear all, It is very important to correctly approach the interactions between suspend/resume and network traffic. There are at least two mechanisms that need to be in place for both things to be able to operate together without causing major issues: 1 - The multicast address populating on the

Firefox 3 available via software-update

2008-08-12 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Yesterday when running software-update from the control panel on joyride-2280 Firefox showed up. It is a port of Firefox 3 to the XO by C Scott Ananian: (http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/firefox-activity;a=summary) First impression is: it works very well. Also it seems when new

mesh point portal?

2008-08-12 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, just curious: While watching NetworkManager logs, I plugged in a usb-ethernet adapter and noted how that NetworkManager logged a message along the lines of it making the ethernet connection available on a mesh channel through msh0 (MPP mode). Does this functionality work? Daniel

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Hi Chris, On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ricardo, There are at least two mechanisms that need to be in place for both things to be able to operate together without causing major issues: 1 - The multicast address populating on the firmware,

New joyride build 2289

2008-08-12 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2289 Changes in build 2289 from build: 2288 Size delta: -0.14M -sugar-toolkit 0.82.0-1.fc9 +sugar-toolkit 0.82.1-1.fc9 --- Changes for sugar-toolkit 0.82.1-1.fc9 from 0.82.0-1.fc9 --- + Fix crash on startup on x86_64 + Rebuild

Re: Firefox 3 available via software-update

2008-08-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Ton van Overbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday when running software-update from the control panel on joyride-2280 Firefox showed up. It is a port of Firefox 3 to the XO by C Scott Ananian:

New faster build 2289

2008-08-12 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2289 Changes in build 2289 from build: 2288 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-toolkit 0.82.0-1.fc9 +sugar-toolkit 0.82.1-1.fc9 --- Changes for sugar-toolkit 0.82.1-1.fc9 from 0.82.0-1.fc9 --- + Fix crash on startup on x86_64 + Rebuild

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Trac #7480: Need to 'reset' the network configurations - short term fix

2008-08-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I moved discussion back to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7480 , including citing Morgan's objections quoted above and proposing a solution. Does anyone want to implement an email-trac gateway, like debian's bug tracker has? That would help a lot when discussion veers off into email. --scott --

Re: New faster build 2289

2008-08-12 Thread Gary Oberbrunner
Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2289 Hi folks; is there still a difference between faster and joyride? I thought they got merged a while ago. ? -- Gary Oberbrunner ___ Devel mailing list

Re: New faster build 2289

2008-08-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Gary Oberbrunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Build Announcer v2 wrote: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2289 Hi folks; is there still a difference between faster and joyride? I thought they got merged a while ago. ?

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Trac #7480: Need to 'reset' the network configurations - short term fix

2008-08-12 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
From the sugar control panel we need to be able to 'reset' or remove the stored network configuration file. This is important to do whenever someone makes a change to their AP settings, changes the password, and it might also help us debug some of the problems we are seeing with

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Aug 12 2008, at 12:22, Ricardo Carrano was caught saying: Dear all, It is very important to correctly approach the interactions between suspend/resume and network traffic. There are at least two mechanisms that need to be in place for both things to be able to operate together without

Re: #5144 HIGH 8.2.0 (: [firmware] Marvell firmware should default to mesh off, and have controls for turning mesh on and off

2008-08-12 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Aug 12 2008, at 08:19, Michail Bletsas was caught saying: Given that such a modification requires extensive driver patching, I don't think we should pursue it for this release. +1 I must be missing something, b/c shouldn't the mesh just be disabled until we do ifconfig msh0 up and then

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Trac #7480: Need to 'reset' the network configurations - short term fix

2008-08-12 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 01:23:07PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote: I moved discussion back to http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7480 , including citing Morgan's objections quoted above and proposing a solution. Does anyone want to implement an email-trac gateway, like debian's bug tracker has?

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, We are waiting for Marvell for an updated firmware that implements a simpler API to configure wake-on-wlan signatures. The proposed API was really hard to use and would require additional changes to support IPv6. Before pushing this upstream we wanted to have a cleaner

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread mbletsas
We can use the existing filter API M - Original Message - From: Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/12/2008 03:49 PM AST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Javier Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kimberley Quirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michail

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, OK, so I'll not push the existing patches into 8.2 and we can roll this into 8.2.1 when all the bits are ready. Does this mean we'll be without wake-on-ARP for 8.2? Is there something we can do to avoid that? We can use the existing filter Not if Deepak doesn't merge

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread mbletsas
Yes, Deepak will have to merge the required patches. M - Original Message - From: Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/12/2008 03:55 PM AST To: Michail Bletsas Cc: Deepak Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Javier Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kimberley Quirk

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Hi Javier, On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Javier Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deepak, On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Deepak Saxena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are at least two mechanisms that need to be in place for both things to be able to operate together without causing major

Re: [sugar] [PATCH] Trac #7480: Need to 'reset' the network configurations - short term fix

2008-08-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A nice gateway would work by filtering emails with some flag in their subject line, e.g. [TRAC #7480]. Is this how debian's bug tracker does implements the gateway UI? rt works like that. Debian's bug tracker uses a new

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread John Gilmore
Though I agree now, as I agreed in the past, that the filter is not easy to use, I would say that it was a mechanism already in place (and the filter would not be used by an end user anyway). Setting up the filter to wake the machine on EVERY arp packet would be trivial. These occur pretty

Re: joyride images for downloading and installing them with a USB key

2008-08-12 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Hi list, where can I find images of the latest joyride for installing it with a USB key? Something similar to these images: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/joyride/latest/devel_ext3/ (It would be great if you could add this to the place you think it should be in the

Re: joyride images for downloading and installing them with a USB key

2008-08-12 Thread Bastien
Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi list, where can I find images of the latest joyride for installing it with a USB key? Something similar to these images: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/joyride/latest/devel_ext3/ Shouldn't I use jffs2 instead?

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread Javier Cardona
Ricardo, On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marvell will implement the new wow-signature API with the next firmware release (22p18) Though I agree now, as I agreed in the past, that the filter is not easy to use, I would say that it was a mechanism

Re: joyride images for downloading and installing them with a USB key

2008-08-12 Thread Bastien
Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 16:31 -0500, Bastien wrote: Shouldn't I use jffs2 instead? If flashing to XO nand, yes. If booting from USB/SD, no. All right, thanks. http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/joyride/latest/devel_jffs2/ What is

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Thank you, Javier! On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Javier Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ricardo, On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Ricardo Carrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marvell will implement the new wow-signature API with the next firmware release (22p18) Though I agree now, as I

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread Javier Cardona
John, On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:01 PM, John Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we have multicast wakeup working, then IPv6 takes care of itself. Waking up on all multicast traffic would not only wake up the host on Neighbor Solicitation messages, but also on all other multicast traffic the

New joyride build 2291

2008-08-12 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2291 Changes in build 2291 from build: 2289 Size delta: 0.14M -totem-mozplugin 2.23.4-1.olpc3.3 +totem-mozplugin 2.23.4-1.olpc3.4 -totem 2.23.4-1.olpc3.3 +totem 2.23.4-1.olpc3.4 -totem-gstreamer 2.23.4-1.olpc3.3 +totem-gstreamer

New faster build 2291

2008-08-12 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2291 Changes in build 2291 from build: 2289 Size delta: 0.00M -totem-mozplugin 2.23.4-1.olpc3.3 +totem-mozplugin 2.23.4-1.olpc3.4 -totem 2.23.4-1.olpc3.3 +totem 2.23.4-1.olpc3.4 -totem-gstreamer 2.23.4-1.olpc3.3 +totem-gstreamer

Fwd: Tux Type on the XO

2008-08-12 Thread Cynthia Solomon
Hi All, Please respond to David Bruce on the following issues. Thanks, --Cynthia Begin forwarded message: From: David Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: August 11, 2008 11:35:43 AM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Cynthia Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tux Type on the XO Hello Cynthia

Physics Game Jam / Competition - August 29-31, Cambridge MA

2008-08-12 Thread Brian Jordan
Hi friends, We are running a Physics Game Jam in Cambridge during the last weekend of August (the 29-31). http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Physics_Jam Developers will be competing in teams of 2-4 to design and implement a game in just 48 hours (Friday 5pm to Sunday 5pm). Non-developers may

New joyride build 2292

2008-08-12 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2292 Changes in build 2292 from build: 2291 Size delta: 0.00M -kernel 2.6.25-20080812.2.olpc.327b50a26b2858d +kernel 2.6.25-20080812.3.olpc.9b42ff8eb9564f7 -- This mail was automatically generated See

New faster build 2292

2008-08-12 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/faster/build2292 Changes in build 2292 from build: 2291 Size delta: 0.00M -kernel 2.6.25-20080812.2.olpc.327b50a26b2858d +kernel 2.6.25-20080812.3.olpc.9b42ff8eb9564f7 -- This mail was automatically generated See

Re: First impressions of joyride-2280

2008-08-12 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Daniel Drake wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 09:17 -0400, Ton van Overbeek wrote: I might have spoken too soon. Yesterday the touchpad jumping was back in joyride-2280. In my initial run of joyride-2280 the battery was full and the XO was connected to the mains power. This time I was on

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread John Gilmore
If we have multicast wakeup working, then IPv6 takes care of itself. Waking up on all multicast traffic would not only wake up the host on Neighbor Solicitation messages, but also on all other multicast traffic the interface was listening to before suspending (e.g. mDNS multicast

Re: Suspend vs Network Traffic - blockers

2008-08-12 Thread John Gilmore
Waking up on all multicast traffic would not only wake up the host on Neighbor Solicitation messages, but also on all other multicast traffic the interface was listening to before suspending (e.g. mDNS multicast messages). Sorry, I may have misinterpreted Javier's message due to his use of

Re: Tux Type on the XO

2008-08-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
2008/8/12 Cynthia Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All, Please respond to David Bruce on the following issues. Thanks, --Cynthia Begin forwarded message: From: David Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: August 11, 2008 11:35:43 AM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Cynthia Solomon [EMAIL

Re: [Server-devel] Static Ip settings

2008-08-12 Thread Tom Mitchell
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:38 PM, James Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:19:30AM -0700, Tom Mitchell wrote: The comment about Debian version reminds me to ask about man and info pages. Is there a set of man pages that matches the packages for various XO

Re: [Server-devel] Static Ip settings

2008-08-12 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:10:13PM -0700, Tom Mitchell wrote: I have not looked for the build scripts... Is there a pointer? http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/mstone/puritan;f=install_hacks.py;hb=devel_jffs2 line 161. # kill caches and documentation (needs to be done after we finish reading

Re: [Server-devel] Warning: breakage updating xs-config

2008-08-12 Thread Jerry Vonau
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:49 AM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Langhoff wrote: A few weeks ago Bryan and David reported breakage with xs-config, and over the last week over various tests we've had xs-config updates making a mess of already-configured XS

Re: [Server-devel] A simple signed bundle/directory trust scheme for the XS

2008-08-12 Thread Jerry Vonau
Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * What use cases are you trying to support? Insert a usb stick with content that is OK'd by the regional NOC (network operations centre) for execution/installation on the XS. * What threats

Re: [Server-devel] Static Ip settings

2008-08-12 Thread Tom Mitchell
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 04:50:20PM +1000, James Cameron wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:10:13PM -0700, Tom Mitchell wrote: I have not looked for the build scripts... Is there a pointer? http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/mstone/puritan;f=install_hacks.py;hb=devel_jffs2 line 161. #