On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> OK, news is not great on the Activity front...
>
> SUMMARY: 759 vs 711 each Activity instance in 759 consumes an average
> of 1Mb more memory than the same Activity running in 711, with
> Write-57 reportedly taking signif
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I was hoping to see the numbers go the other way with the
> rainbow fork trick sharing more module code between Activities. Could
> be worse I guess – I should also test opening N instances of the same
> Activity and
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2414
Changes in build 2414 from build: 2413
Size delta: 0.13M
-yum 3.2.17-2.fc9
+yum 3.2.19-3.fc9
--- Changes for yum 3.2.19-3.fc9 from 3.2.17-2.fc9 ---
+ add patch to fix yum install name.arch matching
+ add patch to fix mash's par
Hi Robert, thanks for the notes.
> Regarding WPA support remember you have existing G1G1 users out in
> the wild using WPA plus a new G1G1 is scheduled for November time
> frame. It is also possible that a deployment or two use WPA.
We aren't going to ship without WPA support, but we als
When measuring memory usage, "cat /proc/XXX/smaps" provides the most
accurate info available (as far as I know), and produces directly
comparable results in all OLPC software releases. XXX is the process
number you're examining (first column of "ps" output).
The smaps file also tells you how many
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:53 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It may be possible and useful to store some commonly used executables
> and shared libraries as uncompressed files in jffs2, making them much
> faster to page back in from Flash. Nobody has tried doing this, as
> far as
> I know I've said this before, but I really want to get some UI polish
> into this part of the system. Instead of the cryptic "AC not present"
> we should be displaying a fullscreen graphic picturing the power cord...
A better fix was implemented a while ago. In the old firmware that
caused thi
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> * We need to check carefully for memory-leaks. Three mechanisms which
>occur to me include:
Looks like we have regressed on http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5532 .
Just entered http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8394 because m
On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 09:15 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > OK, news is not great on the Activity front...
> >
> > SUMMARY: 759 vs 711 each Activity instance in 759 consumes an average
> > of 1Mb more memory than
I had a few hours look at the second largest process, the journal
activity, on Joyride 2412.
VmPeak:40440 kB
VmSize:40436 kB
VmLck: 0 kB
VmHWM: 28824 kB
VmRSS: 28824 kB
VmData:11632 kB
VmStk: 172 kB
VmExe: 4 kB
VmLib: 21992 kB
VmPTE:48 kB
so i
tomeu wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone got an idea of how to measure the heap by usage?
>
> Not from outside python, but from inside we are using heapy:
>
> http://guppy-pe.sourceforge.net/
i started down that path yester
Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi Robert, thanks for the notes.
>
>> 2.) I noticed in build 757 after opening the lid the system would
>> attempt to connect to the last network device it had been connected
>> to. With 759 it looks for a mesh first no matter that you had been
>> connected to a
Chris Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Also, what happened to the white circle around the network circle in
> the Neighborhood to indicate which was connected? I liked that visual
> confirmation.
+1
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Hi Martin,
On 9/9/08, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Michail Bletsas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> - F9 libertas-usb8388-firmware-5.111.20.p49-1
> >> - F9/XO (8.2-759) libertas-usb8388-firmware-5.111.22.p18-1
>
> > You are definitely better off usi
Paul,
On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 08:18 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> tomeu wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone got an idea of how to measure the heap by usage?
> >
> > Not from outside python, but from inside we are using
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had a few hours look at the second largest process, the journal
> activity, on Joyride 2412.
>
> Then I used gdb to generate-core-file and wander through the heap memory
> to get an idea of what it might contain. I did n
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Robert, thanks for the notes.
>
> > Regarding WPA support remember you have existing G1G1 users out in
> > the wild using WPA plus a new G1G1 is scheduled for November time
> > frame. It is also possible that a deploy
We removed that for two reasons. First, as an indicator it was
actually really subtle; it didn't grab attention. Second, it
effectively stripped the identity of the server itself, since each AP
is identified by a pair of colors. Removing the stroke color made it
unclear which AP was which.
We f
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 08:18 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> tomeu wrote:
>> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Has anyone got an idea of how to measure the hea
Are we still so wedded to the purity of circles? Simply changing the
shape of the icon once a connection is made would go a long way. Maybe
morph into a star? or a sun? Or add the ubiquitous parens around the
icon a la the indicator light? None of these would adversely impact
the color-ID scheme.
Am 10.09.2008 um 14:52 schrieb Walter Bender:
> Are we still so wedded to the purity of circles? Simply changing the
> shape of the icon once a connection is made would go a long way. Maybe
> morph into a star? or a sun? Or add the ubiquitous parens around the
> icon a la the indicator light? Non
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Chris Ball wrote:
> > 2.) I noticed in build 757 after opening the lid the system would
> > attempt to connect to the last network device it had been connected
> > to. With 759 it looks for a mesh first no matter that you had been
> > connected to an AP last.
>
> It w
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:53 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> It may be possible and useful to store some commonly used executables
>> and shared libraries as uncompressed files in jffs2, making them much
>> faster to page back in from F
eben wrote:
> We removed that for two reasons. First, as an indicator it was
> actually really subtle; it didn't grab attention. Second, it
> effectively stripped the identity of the server itself, since each AP
> is identified by a pair of colors. Removing the stroke color made it
> unclea
tomeu wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Paul,
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 08:18 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> i started down that path yesterday afternoon, and realized that it
> >> wasn't clear to me how i needed to invoke it. it seem
Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 11:14 +1200, Martin Langhoff a écrit :
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Guillaume Desmottes
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As mentioned few weeks ago, I created an updated version of the ejabberd
> > XS package.
>
> Excellent. I'll give it a spin asap, now that
When there has been an "unconnected" period (e.g., while suspended),
the question has been discussed as to WHICH connection ought the
system be trying to re-establish. I agree with those who would like
the 'most recent connection' to be tried first, unless the user has
explicitly indicated som
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 03:09:46PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>
> Am 10.09.2008 um 14:52 schrieb Walter Bender:
>
> > Or add the ubiquitous parens around the
> > icon a la the indicator light?
>
> That's *exactly* what I was thinking :)
A halo/parens could look really nice.
> - Bert -
Mart
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 09:25:57AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
> To me, the "G1G1 environment" is characterized by NOT using the same
> connection each time. Please don't make it cumbersome to switch APs
AFAIK, NetworkManager should Just Do This every time you return to
within range of an AP t
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build714
Changes in build 714 from build: 713
Size delta: 0.00M
-bootfw q2e15-1.olpc2.unsigned
+bootfw q2e17-1.olpc2.unsigned
--- Changes for bootfw q2e17-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2e15-1.olpc2.unsigned ---
+ trac #8379 - fixed pretty boot
It is my understanding that deployments with larger schools will be
using WAPs and possibly some active antennas (currently a shortage
of these). These large schools are more like the G1G1 situation as
the pupil moves from one area of the school to another they may
connect to another AP.
I
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
> working on it.
> --scott
>
Just to tell that ext3 builds are working again since joyride-2413.
Now hope it is the same for the next 8.2 build.
Thanks Scott for fixing this in less than one day !!
Ton van Overbeek
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On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 02:13:24PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>Not from outside python, but from inside we are using heapy:
>
>http://guppy-pe.sourceforge.net/
Tomeu already published some guppy RPMs but here is a git repo with
pacakging instructions (Makefiles) should you wish to make any changes
There will be an outage starting at Y2008-09-13 01:00 UTC, which will
last approximately 1 hour.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
or run:
date -d '2008-09-13 01:00 UTC'
Affected Services:
Buildsystem
Unaffected Services:
Web
My layman's understanding is that you can't execute in place from the NAND
flash on the XO. XIP requires NOR flash which is more expensive than NAND
but has faster read speeds. It mentions this briefly on the axfs FAQ.
Storing some executables and libraries in a separate uncompressed partition
see
Hi all,
upgraded to 2414 and realized that the auto power management checkbox in the
sugar control panel is unchecked even though the XO seems to show a regular
power management behavior. Is this a bug or am I missing something here
(e.g. auto power management being a different mode to what's the
Christoph Derndorfer wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> upgraded to 2414 and realized that the auto power management checkbox
> in the sugar control panel is unchecked even though the XO seems to
> show a regular power management behavior. Is this a bug or am I
> missing something here (e.g. auto power manage
Hi,
> Hi all, upgraded to 2414 and realized that the auto power
> management checkbox in the sugar control panel is unchecked even
> though the XO seems to show a regular power management behavior. Is
> this a bug or am I missing something here (e.g. auto power
> management being a
On Sep 10 2008, at 11:04, Martin Langhoff was caught saying:
> Now that I have a F9-based XS build, I've dropped the custom-compiled
> driver and the firmware for Libertas, hoping to use the stock standard
> F9.
>
> But that might be a bit optimistic :-)
>
> After a quick check it looks like the
On 10 Sep 2008, at 08:27, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Gary C Martin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Well, I was hoping to see the numbers go the other way with the
>> rainbow fork trick sharing more module code between Activities. Could
>> be worse I guess – I
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:04 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
>> b) To reflect the current and near future deployments (including G1G1
>> 2008) and the level of translations that we have in Pootle, the
>> variables get change
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:04 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
>>> b) To reflect the current and near future deployments (including G1G1
>>> 200
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2415
Changes in build 2415 from build: 2414
Size delta: 0.00M
-ohm 0.1.1-6.19.20080910git.olpc3
+ohm 0.1.1-6.20.20080911git.olpc3
--- Changes for ohm 0.1.1-6.20.20080911git.olpc3 from
0.1.1-6.19.20080910git.olpc3 ---
+ #8062: Bugfix
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Eben,
>
> I'm resurrecting an old thread here.
>
> BTW if you have any more specs or design proposals to share, now is a
> good time to consider them for 9.1-sugar .84 so send them out.
The clipboard specification on the wi
A more accurate test would be to disable the preloading itself rather
than disabling isolation but leaving rainbow loading the libraries. :)
To do that, see lines 31-32 of
/usr/lib/python2.5/site_packages/rainbow/service.py
You want to set self.preloader_hint = False and comment out the call
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:39 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:04 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 01:38:15AM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:39 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROT
Erik Garrison wrote:
.
>
> I don't think that there is any specific reason to chop localizations
> from ext3 (qemu-oriented) images. If anything it's caused headaches for
> groups needing a localized qemu image. I'm not really sure of what
> benefits there are as such images are not to be ins
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Erik Garrison wrote:
> .
>>
>> I don't think that there is any specific reason to chop localizations
>> from ext3 (qemu-oriented) images. If anything it's caused headaches for
>> groups needing a localized qemu imag
It would be great to incorporate more recording methods into Record. We've
plans to also incorporate stop-motion and time-lapse into record also. It
could become a behemoth of an activity though... perhaps it might benefit
from being broken into different components (a.k.a. tamtamization)?
As f
I have published build 714, the first (and hopefully only!) release
candidate for the 8.1.3 point release, at:
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/714/
You can install it with:
olpc-update candidate-714
It is a signed build; it can be used on secured machines. Brief
release notes he
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:14 AM, David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are doing a pilot with a bunch of xos and an XS server. I'd like
> to be able to add LTSP functionality to the same server, (must be FC9)
> so that it can do that for a couple static computers... do you see
> any p
Hi all,
> It is my understanding that deployments with larger schools will be using
> WAPs and possibly some active antennas (currently a shortage of these).
> These large schools are more like the G1G1 situation as the pupil moves
> from one area of the school to another they may connect to
Walter Bender wrote:
> Are we still so wedded to the purity of circles? Simply changing the
> shape of the icon once a connection is made would go a long way. Maybe
> morph into a star? or a sun? Or add the ubiquitous parens around the
> icon a la the indicator light? None of these would adversely
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote:
>
> I know that newer versions of the OS can't be used on such an old
> machine and had expected there to be limits for the firmware too, but
> everything I found on the wiki indicated that all versions are
> compatible with it (only ATest has limits).
Ugh. Verified.
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
> I have published build 714, the first (and hopefully only!) release
> candidate for the 8.1.3 point release, at:
> http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/714/
Do not install this or any thing else with newer (> q2e12) firmware on a
B2 or it will brick.
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Hi,
We now have an English offline Wikipedia snapshot, available here:
http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/enwiki/WikipediaEN-2.xo
Feedback appreciated! Known bugs are crashes due to out-of-memory
conditions when using Joyride builds, and a Rainbow warning dialog
due to a Hulahop bug¹. We're thinkin
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote:
>
> I know that newer versions of the OS can't be used on such an old
> machine and had expected there to be limits for the firmware too, but
> everything I found on the wiki indicated that all versions are
> compatible with it (only ATest has limits).
Ugh. Verifie
Richard A. Smith wrote:
> Ugh. Verified. e15 bricks a B2. I suspect that when I "fixed" the
> board ID table for the upcoming C3 I've somehow broken B2.
>
> I'm investigating now.
It is hard to avoid having these things happen given all the versions of
machines out there. Though it is still m
In preparation for shipping an 8.2.0 build to manufacturing, we need to
agree on release criteria. To that end, I have stubbed out rough ECO
documentation for 8.2.0 at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ECO/8.2.0
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ECO/8.2.0/Checklist
Please review these pages and offer sugge
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2416
Changes in build 2416 from build: 2415
Size delta: -0.13M
-fedora-release 9-3.1
+fedora-release 9-5.transition.1
--- Changes for fedora-release 9-5.transition.1 from 9-3.1 ---
+ Update OLPC fork to 5.transition.
+ transition st
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Martin Langhoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Martin Langhoff
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I'll write up some details as soon as I can, and announce it on the OLPC
>
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2417
Changes in build 2417 from build: 2416
Size delta: 0.13M
-iptables-ipv6 1.4.1.1-1.fc9
+iptables-ipv6 1.4.1.1-2.fc9
-MAKEDEV 3.23-4
+MAKEDEV 3.23-5.fc9
-enchant 1:1.4.2-1.fc9
+enchant 1:1.4.2-2.fc9
-iptables 1.4.1.1-1.fc9
+iptables 1
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote:
> It is hard to avoid having these things happen given all the versions of
> machines out there. Though it is still more like the early Mac days than
> the current PC world. When I was downloading e15 the second time to
> verify that I had the right bits, I did run across
On 10 Sep 2008, at 21:02, Michael Stone wrote:
> A more accurate test would be to disable the preloading itself rather
> than disabling isolation but leaving rainbow loading the libraries. :)
:-)
> To do that, see lines 31-32 of
>
> /usr/lib/python2.5/site_packages/rainbow/service.py
>
> You wa
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Ricardo Carrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The release notes can be acessed here:
> http://www.laptop.org/teamwiki/index.php/Tech:FW_8388_RELEASE_NOTES
>
> 22.p18 is the current version in joyride. Anything older than 22.p14
> is not recommended at all (quite the
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Deepak Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The main question for Libertas experts from the POV of the XS is: what
>> firmware is most stable? On the XS power consumption and sleep are not
>> high priority. Stability and performance over long periods of time is.
>>
Hi all,
I have a great need for the video chat application to use for remote speech
pathology and other services to remote communities through chat. Does anyone
know the status of this project:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat
It looks like nothing has happened with it for several months.
Pia,
Alex looked into this in July, I don't think much has been done with
the original videochat code since the last git commit:
http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/video-chat-activity;a=summary
SJ
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Pia Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a gr
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