Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK, news is not great on the Activity front... > > SUMMARY: 759 vs 711 each Activity instance in 759 consumes an average > of 1Mb more memory than the same Activity running in 711, with > Write-57 reportedly taking signif

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I was hoping to see the numbers go the other way with the > rainbow fork trick sharing more module code between Activities. Could > be worse I guess – I should also test opening N instances of the same > Activity and

New joyride build 2414

2008-09-10 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2414 Changes in build 2414 from build: 2413 Size delta: 0.13M -yum 3.2.17-2.fc9 +yum 3.2.19-3.fc9 --- Changes for yum 3.2.19-3.fc9 from 3.2.17-2.fc9 --- + add patch to fix yum install name.arch matching + add patch to fix mash's par

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Robert, thanks for the notes. > Regarding WPA support remember you have existing G1G1 users out in > the wild using WPA plus a new G1G1 is scheduled for November time > frame. It is also possible that a deployment or two use WPA. We aren't going to ship without WPA support, but we als

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread John Gilmore
When measuring memory usage, "cat /proc/XXX/smaps" provides the most accurate info available (as far as I know), and produces directly comparable results in all OLPC software releases. XXX is the process number you're examining (first column of "ps" output). The smaps file also tells you how many

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:53 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It may be possible and useful to store some commonly used executables > and shared libraries as uncompressed files in jffs2, making them much > faster to page back in from Flash. Nobody has tried doing this, as > far as

Re: AC not present?

2008-09-10 Thread John Gilmore
> I know I've said this before, but I really want to get some UI polish > into this part of the system. Instead of the cryptic "AC not present" > we should be displaying a fullscreen graphic picturing the power cord... A better fix was implemented a while ago. In the old firmware that caused thi

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * We need to check carefully for memory-leaks. Three mechanisms which >occur to me include: Looks like we have regressed on http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5532 . Just entered http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8394 because m

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread riccardo
On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 09:15 +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Gary C Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > OK, news is not great on the Activity front... > > > > SUMMARY: 759 vs 711 each Activity instance in 759 consumes an average > > of 1Mb more memory than

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread James Cameron
I had a few hours look at the second largest process, the journal activity, on Joyride 2412. VmPeak:40440 kB VmSize:40436 kB VmLck: 0 kB VmHWM: 28824 kB VmRSS: 28824 kB VmData:11632 kB VmStk: 172 kB VmExe: 4 kB VmLib: 21992 kB VmPTE:48 kB so i

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread pgf
tomeu wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Has anyone got an idea of how to measure the heap by usage? > > Not from outside python, but from inside we are using heapy: > > http://guppy-pe.sourceforge.net/ i started down that path yester

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Chris Marshall
Chris Ball wrote: > Hi Robert, thanks for the notes. > >> 2.) I noticed in build 757 after opening the lid the system would >> attempt to connect to the last network device it had been connected >> to. With 759 it looks for a mesh first no matter that you had been >> connected to a

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Bastien
Chris Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also, what happened to the white circle around the network circle in > the Neighborhood to indicate which was connected? I liked that visual > confirmation. +1 -- Bastien ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lis

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-10 Thread Ricardo Carrano
Hi Martin, On 9/9/08, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Michail Bletsas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> - F9 libertas-usb8388-firmware-5.111.20.p49-1 > >> - F9/XO (8.2-759) libertas-usb8388-firmware-5.111.22.p18-1 > > > You are definitely better off usi

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread riccardo
Paul, On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 08:18 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > tomeu wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Has anyone got an idea of how to measure the heap by usage? > > > > Not from outside python, but from inside we are using

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had a few hours look at the second largest process, the journal > activity, on Joyride 2412. > > Then I used gdb to generate-core-file and wander through the heap memory > to get an idea of what it might contain. I did n

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Chris Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Robert, thanks for the notes. > > > Regarding WPA support remember you have existing G1G1 users out in > > the wild using WPA plus a new G1G1 is scheduled for November time > > frame. It is also possible that a deploy

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Eben Eliason
We removed that for two reasons. First, as an indicator it was actually really subtle; it didn't grab attention. Second, it effectively stripped the identity of the server itself, since each AP is identified by a pair of colors. Removing the stroke color made it unclear which AP was which. We f

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul, > > On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 08:18 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> tomeu wrote: >> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > Has anyone got an idea of how to measure the hea

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Walter Bender
Are we still so wedded to the purity of circles? Simply changing the shape of the icon once a connection is made would go a long way. Maybe morph into a star? or a sun? Or add the ubiquitous parens around the icon a la the indicator light? None of these would adversely impact the color-ID scheme.

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Am 10.09.2008 um 14:52 schrieb Walter Bender: > Are we still so wedded to the purity of circles? Simply changing the > shape of the icon once a connection is made would go a long way. Maybe > morph into a star? or a sun? Or add the ubiquitous parens around the > icon a la the indicator light? Non

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread david
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Chris Ball wrote: > > 2.) I noticed in build 757 after opening the lid the system would > > attempt to connect to the last network device it had been connected > > to. With 759 it looks for a mesh first no matter that you had been > > connected to an AP last. > > It w

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread david
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:53 AM, John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> It may be possible and useful to store some commonly used executables >> and shared libraries as uncompressed files in jffs2, making them much >> faster to page back in from F

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread pgf
eben wrote: > We removed that for two reasons. First, as an indicator it was > actually really subtle; it didn't grab attention. Second, it > effectively stripped the identity of the server itself, since each AP > is identified by a pair of colors. Removing the stroke color made it > unclea

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread pgf
tomeu wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul, > > > > On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 08:18 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> i started down that path yesterday afternoon, and realized that it > >> wasn't clear to me how i needed to invoke it. it seem

Re: [Server-devel] Update ejabberd package

2008-09-10 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 11:14 +1200, Martin Langhoff a écrit : > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Guillaume Desmottes > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As mentioned few weeks ago, I created an updated version of the ejabberd > > XS package. > > Excellent. I'll give it a spin asap, now that

recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-10 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
When there has been an "unconnected" period (e.g., while suspended), the question has been discussed as to WHICH connection ought the system be trying to re-establish. I agree with those who would like the 'most recent connection' to be tried first, unless the user has explicitly indicated som

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 03:09:46PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > Am 10.09.2008 um 14:52 schrieb Walter Bender: > > > Or add the ubiquitous parens around the > > icon a la the indicator light? > > That's *exactly* what I was thinking :) A halo/parens could look really nice. > - Bert - Mart

Re: recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 09:25:57AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > To me, the "G1G1 environment" is characterized by NOT using the same > connection each time. Please don't make it cumbersome to switch APs AFAIK, NetworkManager should Just Do This every time you return to within range of an AP t

New update.1 build 714

2008-09-10 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build714 Changes in build 714 from build: 713 Size delta: 0.00M -bootfw q2e15-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2e17-1.olpc2.unsigned --- Changes for bootfw q2e17-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2e15-1.olpc2.unsigned --- + trac #8379 - fixed pretty boot

Re: recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is my understanding that deployments with larger schools will be using WAPs and possibly some active antennas (currently a shortage of these). These large schools are more like the G1G1 situation as the pupil moves from one area of the school to another they may connect to another AP. I

Re: Current 8.2 and joyride ext3 builds unusable

2008-09-10 Thread Ton van Overbeek
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > working on it. > --scott > Just to tell that ext3 builds are working again since joyride-2413. Now hope it is the same for the next 8.2 build. Thanks Scott for fixing this in less than one day !! Ton van Overbeek ___ Devel

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 02:13:24PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >Not from outside python, but from inside we are using heapy: > >http://guppy-pe.sourceforge.net/ Tomeu already published some guppy RPMs but here is a git repo with pacakging instructions (Makefiles) should you wish to make any changes

Outage Notification - 2008-09-13 01:00 UTC

2008-09-10 Thread Dennis Gilmore
There will be an outage starting at Y2008-09-13 01:00 UTC, which will last approximately 1 hour. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2008-09-13 01:00 UTC' Affected Services: Buildsystem Unaffected Services: Web

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread Nate Ridderman
My layman's understanding is that you can't execute in place from the NAND flash on the XO. XIP requires NOR flash which is more expensive than NAND but has faster read speeds. It mentions this briefly on the axfs FAQ. Storing some executables and libraries in a separate uncompressed partition see

Automatic power management disabled in control panel

2008-09-10 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hi all, upgraded to 2414 and realized that the auto power management checkbox in the sugar control panel is unchecked even though the XO seems to show a regular power management behavior. Is this a bug or am I missing something here (e.g. auto power management being a different mode to what's the

Re: Automatic power management disabled in control panel

2008-09-10 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi all, > > upgraded to 2414 and realized that the auto power management checkbox > in the sugar control panel is unchecked even though the XO seems to > show a regular power management behavior. Is this a bug or am I > missing something here (e.g. auto power manage

Re: Automatic power management disabled in control panel

2008-09-10 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, > Hi all, upgraded to 2414 and realized that the auto power > management checkbox in the sugar control panel is unchecked even > though the XO seems to show a regular power management behavior. Is > this a bug or am I missing something here (e.g. auto power > management being a

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-10 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Sep 10 2008, at 11:04, Martin Langhoff was caught saying: > Now that I have a F9-based XS build, I've dropped the custom-compiled > driver and the firmware for Libertas, hoping to use the stock standard > F9. > > But that might be a bit optimistic :-) > > After a quick check it looks like the

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread Gary C Martin
On 10 Sep 2008, at 08:27, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Gary C Martin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, I was hoping to see the numbers go the other way with the >> rainbow fork trick sharing more module code between Activities. Could >> be worse I guess – I

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

2008-09-10 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:04 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: >> b) To reflect the current and near future deployments (including G1G1 >> 2008) and the level of translations that we have in Pootle, the >> variables get change

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

2008-09-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:04 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: >>> b) To reflect the current and near future deployments (including G1G1 >>> 200

New joyride build 2415

2008-09-10 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2415 Changes in build 2415 from build: 2414 Size delta: 0.00M -ohm 0.1.1-6.19.20080910git.olpc3 +ohm 0.1.1-6.20.20080911git.olpc3 --- Changes for ohm 0.1.1-6.20.20080911git.olpc3 from 0.1.1-6.19.20080910git.olpc3 --- + #8062: Bugfix

Re: [sugar] Question about clipboard service

2008-09-10 Thread Eben Eliason
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Greg Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Eben, > > I'm resurrecting an old thread here. > > BTW if you have any more specs or design proposals to share, now is a > good time to consider them for 9.1-sugar .84 so send them out. The clipboard specification on the wi

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
A more accurate test would be to disable the preloading itself rather than disabling isolation but leaving rainbow loading the libraries. :) To do that, see lines 31-32 of /usr/lib/python2.5/site_packages/rainbow/service.py You want to set self.preloader_hint = False and comment out the call

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

2008-09-10 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:39 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 15:04 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

2008-09-10 Thread Erik Garrison
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 01:38:15AM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:39 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

2008-09-10 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Erik Garrison wrote: . > > I don't think that there is any specific reason to chop localizations > from ext3 (qemu-oriented) images. If anything it's caused headaches for > groups needing a localized qemu image. I'm not really sure of what > benefits there are as such images are not to be ins

Re: [PROPOSAL] Change PILGRIM_LOCALES_* to better reflect the current situation

2008-09-10 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erik Garrison wrote: > . >> >> I don't think that there is any specific reason to chop localizations >> from ext3 (qemu-oriented) images. If anything it's caused headaches for >> groups needing a localized qemu imag

Re: [sugar] [Activities] Panorama activity

2008-09-10 Thread Erik Blankinship
It would be great to incorporate more recording methods into Record. We've plans to also incorporate stop-motion and time-lapse into record also. It could become a behemoth of an activity though... perhaps it might benefit from being broken into different components (a.k.a. tamtamization)? As f

8.1.3 release candidate

2008-09-10 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I have published build 714, the first (and hopefully only!) release candidate for the 8.1.3 point release, at: http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/714/ You can install it with: olpc-update candidate-714 It is a signed build; it can be used on secured machines. Brief release notes he

Re: [Server-devel] latest XS + ltsp

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:14 AM, David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are doing a pilot with a bunch of xos and an XS server. I'd like > to be able to add LTSP functionality to the same server, (must be FC9) > so that it can do that for a couple static computers... do you see > any p

Re: recognizing a previous connection

2008-09-10 Thread Pia Waugh
Hi all, > It is my understanding that deployments with larger schools will be using > WAPs and possibly some active antennas (currently a shortage of these). > These large schools are more like the G1G1 situation as the pupil moves > from one area of the school to another they may connect to

Re: Expected date for 8.2.0

2008-09-10 Thread Douglas Bagnall
Walter Bender wrote: > Are we still so wedded to the purity of circles? Simply changing the > shape of the icon once a connection is made would go a long way. Maybe > morph into a star? or a sun? Or add the ubiquitous parens around the > icon a la the indicator light? None of these would adversely

Re: q2e15 and a bricked BTest-2

2008-09-10 Thread Richard Smith
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: > > I know that newer versions of the OS can't be used on such an old > machine and had expected there to be limits for the firmware too, but > everything I found on the wiki indicated that all versions are > compatible with it (only ATest has limits). Ugh. Verified.

Re: 8.1.3 release candidate

2008-09-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > I have published build 714, the first (and hopefully only!) release > candidate for the 8.1.3 point release, at: > http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/714/ Do not install this or any thing else with newer (> q2e12) firmware on a B2 or it will brick. -- Richa

Announce: WikipediaEN.xo

2008-09-10 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, We now have an English offline Wikipedia snapshot, available here: http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/enwiki/WikipediaEN-2.xo Feedback appreciated! Known bugs are crashes due to out-of-memory conditions when using Joyride builds, and a Rainbow warning dialog due to a Hulahop bug¹. We're thinkin

Re: q2e15 and a bricked BTest-2

2008-09-10 Thread Richard A. Smith
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: > > I know that newer versions of the OS can't be used on such an old > machine and had expected there to be limits for the firmware too, but > everything I found on the wiki indicated that all versions are > compatible with it (only ATest has limits). Ugh. Verifie

Re: q2e15 and a bricked BTest-2

2008-09-10 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr
Richard A. Smith wrote: > Ugh. Verified. e15 bricks a B2. I suspect that when I "fixed" the > board ID table for the upcoming C3 I've somehow broken B2. > > I'm investigating now. It is hard to avoid having these things happen given all the versions of machines out there. Though it is still m

8.2.0 Release Criteria & ECO Documentation

2008-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
In preparation for shipping an 8.2.0 build to manufacturing, we need to agree on release criteria. To that end, I have stubbed out rough ECO documentation for 8.2.0 at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ECO/8.2.0 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ECO/8.2.0/Checklist Please review these pages and offer sugge

New joyride build 2416

2008-09-10 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2416 Changes in build 2416 from build: 2415 Size delta: -0.13M -fedora-release 9-3.1 +fedora-release 9-5.transition.1 --- Changes for fedora-release 9-5.transition.1 from 9-3.1 --- + Update OLPC fork to 5.transition. + transition st

Re: [Server-devel] XS Splashscreen / logo

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Martin Langhoff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I'll write up some details as soon as I can, and announce it on the OLPC >

New joyride build 2417

2008-09-10 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2417 Changes in build 2417 from build: 2416 Size delta: 0.13M -iptables-ipv6 1.4.1.1-1.fc9 +iptables-ipv6 1.4.1.1-2.fc9 -MAKEDEV 3.23-4 +MAKEDEV 3.23-5.fc9 -enchant 1:1.4.2-1.fc9 +enchant 1:1.4.2-2.fc9 -iptables 1.4.1.1-1.fc9 +iptables 1

Re: q2e15 and a bricked BTest-2

2008-09-10 Thread Richard Smith
Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: > It is hard to avoid having these things happen given all the versions of > machines out there. Though it is still more like the early Mac days than > the current PC world. When I was downloading e15 the second time to > verify that I had the right bits, I did run across

Re: Stability and Memory Pressure in 8.2

2008-09-10 Thread Gary C Martin
On 10 Sep 2008, at 21:02, Michael Stone wrote: > A more accurate test would be to disable the preloading itself rather > than disabling isolation but leaving rainbow loading the libraries. :) :-) > To do that, see lines 31-32 of > > /usr/lib/python2.5/site_packages/rainbow/service.py > > You wa

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Ricardo Carrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The release notes can be acessed here: > http://www.laptop.org/teamwiki/index.php/Tech:FW_8388_RELEASE_NOTES > > 22.p18 is the current version in joyride. Anything older than 22.p14 > is not recommended at all (quite the

Re: Libertas firmware on F9 for the XS

2008-09-10 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Deepak Saxena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The main question for Libertas experts from the POV of the XS is: what >> firmware is most stable? On the XS power consumption and sleep are not >> high priority. Stability and performance over long periods of time is. >>

Videochat - any status?

2008-09-10 Thread Pia Waugh
Hi all, I have a great need for the video chat application to use for remote speech pathology and other services to remote communities through chat. Does anyone know the status of this project: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat It looks like nothing has happened with it for several months.

Re: Videochat - any status?

2008-09-10 Thread Samuel Klein
Pia, Alex looked into this in July, I don't think much has been done with the original videochat code since the last git commit: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/video-chat-activity;a=summary SJ On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Pia Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a gr