Re: G1G1 Pre-installed Activities

2008-09-21 Thread Hal Murray
There is another list of activities that is probably a subset of what should ship with G1G1. I'm thinking of the ones needed to test, exercise, or demonstrate various features of the software or hardware. In this context, simpler is better as there will be less chance of a bug in some other

Firefox and Browse and xulrunner on 8.2.0

2008-09-21 Thread S Page
Using 8.2-760 with the Firefox-6 and Browse 96 that Software update installed, I noticed some things. No show-stoppers. * Firefox-6 doesn't use the gnash and totem plug-ins that are pre-installed in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. I filed http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8593 with a workaround, maybe

Re: [support-gang] Help activity version 7, please test!

2008-09-21 Thread XO community support volunteer
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:05 AM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~seth/Help-7.xohttp://dev.laptop.org/%7Eseth/Help-7.xo Release version 7 of the Help activity. This version includes: * Anne's updated power section * Additional image fixes With this release I

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-21 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Walter Bender wrote: | (I run SKYPE in Bert's X Activity | without a problem.) The principle goal of this discussion is to make the X Activity unnecessary by moving that functionality into Sugar's window management. Possible motivations for this

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-21 Thread Walter Bender
The X Activity is pretty straight forward. But it does not integrate the Sugar copy/paste/theming etc. The point of my question was not so much to question those goals as much as to ask if we have data re what percentage of legacy applications are multiwindow? If it is a small percentage, then

8.2-760 AP connect problem

2008-09-21 Thread jns-cmarshall
I recently did a reinstall of 8.2-760 on my MP G1G1 XO. The new install seems to be very finicky about connecting to my AP: 1. mesh connect keeps trying and seems to stay there with out finishing 2. clicking on my AP circle in the Neighborhood used to stop the mesh and start the AP

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-21 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of the activity packs that Peru, Uruguay, et al. developed. These collections

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, there is a great deal of data from the field in the form of the activity

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-21 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact, there

Re: 8.2-760 AP connect problem

2008-09-21 Thread Seth Woodworth
Interesting. What is the encryption type for the AP? On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 1:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently did a reinstall of 8.2-760 on my MP G1G1 XO. The new install seems to be very finicky about connecting to my AP: 1. mesh connect keeps trying and seems to stay

Re: 8.2-760 AP connect problem

2008-09-21 Thread S Page
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently did a reinstall of 8.2-760 on my MP G1G1 XO. Me too. My AP is an old Linksys BEFW11 S4 version 2. The new install seems to be very finicky about connecting to my AP: I find 760 works about the same as 75x builds. 1. mesh connect keeps trying and seems

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sameer thanks for making the spreadsheet world editable By the way how are you defining the following terms:- Stability Performance Child Utility Technical Utility Grown-up utility Lines of code Good definitions of these terms noted in the spreadsheet will reduce ambiguity. Nothing like

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-21 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 3:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sameer thanks for making the spreadsheet world editable By the way how are you defining the following terms:- Stability Performance Child Utility Technical Utility Grown-up utility Lines of code I'm not. I just

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-21 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
The principal goal of this discussion is to make the X Activity unnecessary by moving that functionality into Sugar's window management. what percentage of legacy applications are multiwindow? If it is a small percentage, then maybe we shouldn't be so focused on their support at the expense

Re: [sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

2008-09-21 Thread Michael Stone
My impression, based on historical conversations with the parties involved is that there are a bunch of hackers who feel that we did ourselves a disservice by dropping _so much_ backwards compatibility, specifically with Unix filesystems and desktops, in exchange for cool ideas. The feeling is

Re: 8.2-760 AP connect problem

2008-09-21 Thread Michael Stone
You folks might be interested to know that you can teach NetworkManager to prefer connecting to APs instead of to the mesh. I believe the command is echo infra /etc/NetworkManager/mesh-start Michael ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: 8.2-760 AP connect problem

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 05:10:22PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: You folks might be interested to know that you can teach NetworkManager to prefer connecting to APs instead of to the mesh. I believe the command is echo infra /etc/NetworkManager/mesh-start If anyone gets this to work

xs-devel disk full - XS OS Builds related?

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
The disk is full on xs-dev, I think it may be related to the autobuilder. I don't want to touch anything there that might be useful. ISTR talking about moving all this stuff _away_ from xs-dev, and to a machine with no internet-facing services? This was many moons ago... cheers, martin --

suspend resume strangeness...

2008-09-21 Thread Sameer Verma
I have two XOs, both from G1G1. They are both running Stable build 711. When I close the laptops they go into suspend. However, one of them will resume after opening the lid, while with the other one I have to press the power button to bring it back. Both are running Q2E12 Any ideas? Sameer --

Re: suspend resume strangeness...

2008-09-21 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Sameer, I have two XOs, both from G1G1. They are both running Stable build 711. When I close the laptops they go into suspend. However, one of them will resume after opening the lid, while with the other one I have to press the power button to bring it back. Both are running

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-21 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 3:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sameer thanks for making the spreadsheet world editable By the way how are you defining the following terms:- Stability Performance Child

Re: [sugar] [Grassroots-l] G1G1 Pre-installed Activities Request for Help Testing

2008-09-21 Thread Sameer Verma
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 3:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sameer thanks for making the spreadsheet world editable By the way how

Re: Firefox and Browse and xulrunner on 8.2.0

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 7:57 PM, S Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * I assume the Help-6.xo application also shares code, since it's using Hulahop that Browse uses. But top shows VIRT RES SHR 132m 37m 11m Browse 121m 36m 11m xulrunner (i.e. chatzilla) 130m 30m 7096

Speak for XO, Internationalization and a small fix, Where and how to submit?

2008-09-21 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Hello, I have made a Dutch translation starting from the .pot files in Speak-7.xo. While doing this I noticed the strings Voice and Face were missed to be translated in activity.py. Fixed this also and produced a single .pot file instead of two. Also noticed there is a Speak-8.xo with only a

no color in the Neighborhood

2008-09-21 Thread jns-cmarshall
I had my 8.2-760 XO closed in suspend for some hours. When I opened up the Neighborhood the AP icons did not have color. See attached screenshot. --Chris Clipboard object_ Image..png Description: Binary data ___ Devel mailing list

Re: no color in the Neighborhood

2008-09-21 Thread Sameer Verma
2008/9/21 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I had my 8.2-760 XO closed in suspend for some hours. When I opened up the Neighborhood the AP icons did not have color. See attached screenshot. --Chris ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org

Re: xs-devel disk full - XS OS Builds related?

2008-09-21 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, The disk is full on xs-dev, I think it may be related to the autobuilder. I don't want to touch anything there that might be useful. This was causing the last two Joyride builds to fail. I did this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sbin]$ df -h /srv FilesystemSize Used Avail Use%

Re: xs-devel disk full - XS OS Builds related?

2008-09-21 Thread John Watlington
In the past I was always able to find something of cscott's to delete :-) I think this time we've legitimately outgrown the disk on that box, and I though everything was supposed to have migrated off months ago as well... wad On Sep 22, 2008, at 12:33 AM, Chris Ball wrote: Hi, The disk

New joyride build 2465

2008-09-21 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2465 Changes in build 2465 from build: 2462 Size delta: 0.00M -cerebro 2.9.13-1.olpc3 +cerebro 2.9.15-1.olpc3 --- Changes for cerebro 2.9.15-1.olpc3 from 2.9.13-1.olpc3 --- + 2.9.15: cleanup bin/cerebro, #8128, #7756 + 2.9.14:

New pyweek games.

2008-09-21 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, There's a new set of pyweek games available: http://www.pyweek.org/7/entries/ http://www.pyweek.org/ If someone has time, it'd be good to try some of them and see which are suitable for installing on the XO. (And there are previous pyweek collections, too.) - Chris. -- Chris Ball

[Server-devel] ifcfg-mshbond1

2008-09-21 Thread Jerry Vonau
The DEVICE= line for mshbond1 should be mshbond1 not mshbond0 Jerry ___ Server-devel mailing list Server-devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel

Re: [Server-devel] ifcfg-mshbond1

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Jerry Vonau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The DEVICE= line for mshbond1 should be mshbond1 not mshbond0 Ooops! Good spotting! fixed and pushed out to git, and to a new rpm... m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting

Re: [Server-devel] Translating Moodle - a sustainable approach...?

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my thinking at the moment is as follows... Moodle translation resources: Main forum - use login as guest to see it http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=43 Moodle's own pootle-like translator

Re: [Server-devel] Looking at edublog moodle code --

2008-09-21 Thread Tarun Pondicherry
Hi Martin, You're right, trying to change to tinyMCE in Moodle itself by porting relevant portions of Mauno's modifications is a large job. However, there were some versions I came across that simply stick tinyMCE into the theme files. I was planning on hacking the XO theme to make it use

Re: [Server-devel] Looking at edublog moodle code --

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Tarun Pondicherry You're right, trying to change to tinyMCE in Moodle itself by porting relevant portions of Mauno's modifications is a large job. However, there were some versions I came across that simply stick tinyMCE into the theme files. I was planning

[Server-devel] squid - minor (but annoying) bug #463129

2008-09-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Similar to the httpd bug I mentioned before -- trivial fix, and I've included a patch. If a fix percolates in F9, it saves me from having to shipping a custom squid for what amounts to... 10 characters :-) Squid init script test the wrong configfile