Re: Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-16 Thread milan zimmermann
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, milan zimmermann
>  wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Martin Langhoff
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ --
>>
>> I only see 802b3 there so far.
>
> Ah, the transfer landed in the wrong directory -- moved now to the right 
> place.
>
>> Let me ask a question: I wm wondering
>> what is the difference between 8.2.2-betas and
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 -
>
> Deployments need a new, updated build on XO-1. Deployments running old
> and trusty 8.2.1 have developed some fixes and patches that have
> proven their worth in the field. So roll them into a "service pack",
> minor upgrade, low risk, stable.


>
> F11 on XO-1 is lots of fun, but not stable nor low-risk.

Thanks

>
> cheers,
>
>
>
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Re: Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ --
> the main purpose of this build is to test updated activities. I did an
> initial round of smoketesting, and activities fall in 3 buckets:

BTW, this build also has the azerty keyboard map. I configured an XO
with the right keyboard settings (see Sayamindu's recent email) and it
worked a charm.

(Additional testing from native French touch-typists welcome!)

cheers,


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Re: Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-16 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 AM, milan zimmermann
 wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Martin Langhoff
>  wrote:
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ --
>
> I only see 802b3 there so far.

Ah, the transfer landed in the wrong directory -- moved now to the right place.

> Let me ask a question: I wm wondering
> what is the difference between 8.2.2-betas and
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 -

Deployments need a new, updated build on XO-1. Deployments running old
and trusty 8.2.1 have developed some fixes and patches that have
proven their worth in the field. So roll them into a "service pack",
minor upgrade, low risk, stable.

F11 on XO-1 is lots of fun, but not stable nor low-risk.

cheers,



m
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Re: Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-16 Thread milan zimmermann
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ --

I only see 802b3 there so far. Let me ask a question: I wm wondering
what is the difference between 8.2.2-betas and
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_XO-1 - I do not mean so much in
terms of technology, but in terms of intended usage and target
audience. I found this thread
http://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.laptop.org/msg21474.html but
that does not really compare the two.

Thanks,
Milan
> the main purpose of this build is to test updated activities. I did an
> initial round of smoketesting, and activities fall in 3 buckets:
>
>  - no update
>  - updated, superficial testing didn't find problems
>  - updated, found something...
>
> So my test request is: double check on those that I couldn't find any
> problems with, and help us get more info on the ones that seem buggy!
>
> Maybe I've been too good as a tester, and found corner case bugs...
>
> =No update=
>
> Anything not listed below ;-)
>
> = Updated, apparently good =
>
> Listed below -- version in 802-G1G1, new version.
>
> Calculate 25 -> 30
> Distance 14 -> 18
> Etoys -- 94 -> 99
> Implode 5 -> 9
> Memorize 33 -> 34
> Moon 10 -> 11
> Pippy 30 -> 35
> TamTamEdit 50 -> 52
> TamTamJam 51 -> 53
> TamTamMini 49 -> 52
> TamTamSynthLab 51 -> 53
> Terminal 18 -> 31
> Wikipedia 10 -> 11 (Spanish)
> SocialCalc Activity 1 -> 5
> Speak 9 -> 14 -- works very nice but may be held back because the new
> toolbar is confusing (is there a version > 9 that has the oldstyle
> toolbar?
> TurtleArt 10 -> 82 (!!!)
>
> Chat is a special case. I kept it on v48, but would be good to know if
> there is a newer version that works well on 802b4. Mikus reports the
> latest doesn't work well, and that v60 works but has important UI
> changes.
>
> = Updated, may have bugs =
>
> These newer versions are claimed by ASLO's database to be compatible with 0.82
>
>  - Colors 13 -> 15 -- it mostly worked correctly. I found odd bugs in
> some cases in shared mode; the buddies joining would see the right
> paintstrokes but with the wrong thickness or color. Maybe the bug is
> there on v13 too, and this is not a regression...?
>
>  - Log 16 -> 18 -- fails to start, errors out on "import gio".
>
>  - Measure 24 -> 29 -- "Keep error"
>
>  - Paint 23 -> 27 -- shared paint sessions fail to start on the buddy
>
>  - Read 56 -> 86 -- uses gconf, dies on 'import gconf'
>
>  - Record 59 -> 64 -- My test was heavy duty: go through each tab
> (picture, video, audio) and capture acouple of both, and then start
> the tab cycle again. OOMd twice, worked flawlessly once, needs more
> investigation. There is no denying that it OOMd or crashed, but it
> maystill be an improvement over v59
>
> cheers,
>
>
> m
> --
>  martin.langh...@gmail.com
>  mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect
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Re: Activities updated in 802b4 - test request

2010-03-15 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Martin Langhoff
 wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I am uploading 802b4 to http://dev.laptop.org/~martin/8.2.2-betas/ --
> the main purpose of this build is to test updated activities. I did an
> initial round of smoketesting, and activities fall in 3 buckets:
>
>  - no update
>  - updated, superficial testing didn't find problems
>  - updated, found something...
>
> So my test request is: double check on those that I couldn't find any
> problems with, and help us get more info on the ones that seem buggy!
>
> Maybe I've been too good as a tester, and found corner case bugs...
>
> =No update=
>
> Anything not listed below ;-)
>
> = Updated, apparently good =
>
> Listed below -- version in 802-G1G1, new version.
>
> Calculate 25 -> 30
> Distance 14 -> 18
> Etoys -- 94 -> 99
> Implode 5 -> 9
> Memorize 33 -> 34
> Moon 10 -> 11
> Pippy 30 -> 35
> TamTamEdit 50 -> 52
> TamTamJam 51 -> 53
> TamTamMini 49 -> 52
> TamTamSynthLab 51 -> 53
> Terminal 18 -> 31
> Wikipedia 10 -> 11 (Spanish)
> SocialCalc Activity 1 -> 5
> Speak 9 -> 14 -- works very nice but may be held back because the new
> toolbar is confusing (is there a version > 9 that has the oldstyle
> toolbar?
> TurtleArt 10 -> 82 (!!!)

TurtleArt-83 is coming very soon... still waiting for some
translations to come in, but it is about as different from v82 as v82
is from v10 in terms of the codebase. You can grab a copy at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:TurtleArt-83.xo

-walter

>
> Chat is a special case. I kept it on v48, but would be good to know if
> there is a newer version that works well on 802b4. Mikus reports the
> latest doesn't work well, and that v60 works but has important UI
> changes.
>
> = Updated, may have bugs =
>
> These newer versions are claimed by ASLO's database to be compatible with 0.82
>
>  - Colors 13 -> 15 -- it mostly worked correctly. I found odd bugs in
> some cases in shared mode; the buddies joining would see the right
> paintstrokes but with the wrong thickness or color. Maybe the bug is
> there on v13 too, and this is not a regression...?
>
>  - Log 16 -> 18 -- fails to start, errors out on "import gio".
>
>  - Measure 24 -> 29 -- "Keep error"
>
>  - Paint 23 -> 27 -- shared paint sessions fail to start on the buddy
>
>  - Read 56 -> 86 -- uses gconf, dies on 'import gconf'
>
>  - Record 59 -> 64 -- My test was heavy duty: go through each tab
> (picture, video, audio) and capture acouple of both, and then start
> the tab cycle again. OOMd twice, worked flawlessly once, needs more
> investigation. There is no denying that it OOMd or crashed, but it
> maystill be an improvement over v59
>
> cheers,
>
>
> m
> --
>  martin.langh...@gmail.com
>  mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect
>  - ask interesting questions
>  - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
>  - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff
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