Re: [sabayon-dev] Release Goals?

[Daniél Lecoq]

Or
3. Same as 1. but without the freezing of packages. They still have to 
work when the users do the massive update of "1." after nstall, so 
ithout freezing, we'd know that there are no hickups.



On 04/03/2018 12:47 AM, Jerrod Frost wrote:
I'm looking for a discussion on how we feel about releasing. A few 
options have been presented. We can:


1. Delay Release, make a few package bumps, and polish release with a 
Goal of 18.05 (mostly remaining frozen)
2. Clean up and Release ASAP with 18.04 (Unfreeze and allow updates to 
flow)


I'm curious what the rest of the team thinks?
I like the idea of Delaying release to polish up. We can switch to 
Uniform Icons across all spins, switch LightDM's Greeter to 
Slick-greeter, etc. We could take the chance to wow the users. The 
downside is we'd hit users with a wave of updates right after fresh 
install due to long freeze. We'd also be delaying the release so some 
sort of update to our users of our current status would also be needed 
in our blog/news section.


So are we looking more to the deadline of 18.04 or are we looking to 
the image of polished environment for users?


Thanks,
Darksurf

Re: [sabayon-dev] Release Goals?

[André Jaenisch]

What Joost says.


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Von: Joost Ruis <joost.r...@sabayon.org>
Gesendet: 4. April 2018 09:56:21 MESZ
An: sabayon-dev <devel@lists.sabayon.org>
Betreff: Re: [sabayon-dev] Release Goals?

Release ASAP.

Do another release later this year.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Sławomir Nizio <slawomir.ni...@sabayon.org>
wrote:

> > I'm looking for a discussion on how we feel about releasing. A few
> > options have been presented. We can:
> >
> > 1. Delay Release, make a few package bumps, and polish release with a
> > Goal of 18.05 (mostly remaining frozen)
> > 2. Clean up and Release ASAP with 18.04 (Unfreeze and allow updates to
> flow)
>
> Comment from my side and my point of view is that I avoid doing anything
> with packages and bugs due to the "frozen" status.
>
>

Re: [sabayon-dev] Release Goals?

[Joost Ruis]

Release ASAP.

Do another release later this year.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Sławomir Nizio 
wrote:

> > I'm looking for a discussion on how we feel about releasing. A few
> > options have been presented. We can:
> >
> > 1. Delay Release, make a few package bumps, and polish release with a
> > Goal of 18.05 (mostly remaining frozen)
> > 2. Clean up and Release ASAP with 18.04 (Unfreeze and allow updates to
> flow)
>
> Comment from my side and my point of view is that I avoid doing anything
> with packages and bugs due to the "frozen" status.
>
>

Re: [sabayon-dev] Release Goals?

[Sławomir Nizio]

> I'm looking for a discussion on how we feel about releasing. A few
> options have been presented. We can:
> 
> 1. Delay Release, make a few package bumps, and polish release with a
> Goal of 18.05 (mostly remaining frozen)
> 2. Clean up and Release ASAP with 18.04 (Unfreeze and allow updates to flow)

Comment from my side and my point of view is that I avoid doing anything
with packages and bugs due to the "frozen" status.

Re: [sabayon-dev] Release Goals?

[Ettore Di Giacinto]

Just for the record. The download page points to another release, not 16.11
(that doesn't have a press release).

IMHO we need to release asap, and think to rounding edges later.

Il mar 3 apr 2018, 17:40 Jerrod Frost  ha scritto:

> Well, I don't think we would have to remain fully frozen. There would be a
> few bumps that would still take place.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:37 AM Stuart Rose 
> wrote:
>
>> How much risk is there in allowing updated packages now, if we know we're
>> going to spend more time polishing?  That could help mitigate the deluge of
>> updates if it's a large concern.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:46 AM Geaaru  wrote:
>>
>>> On site official release from latest news is 16.11 (a very old release).
>>>
>>> From my side I think that could be correct choice 2.
>>>
>>> My cent
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2018-04-02 at 23:48 +, Jerrod Frost wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a discussion on how we feel about releasing. A few
>>> options have been presented. We can:
>>>
>>> 1. Delay Release, make a few package bumps, and polish release with a
>>> Goal of 18.05 (mostly remaining frozen)
>>> 2. Clean up and Release ASAP with 18.04 (Unfreeze and allow updates to
>>> flow)
>>>
>>> I'm curious what the rest of the team thinks?
>>> I like the idea of Delaying release to polish up. We can switch to
>>> Uniform Icons across all spins, switch LightDM's Greeter to Slick-greeter,
>>> etc. We could take the chance to wow the users. The downside is we'd hit
>>> users with a wave of updates right after fresh install due to long freeze.
>>> We'd also be delaying the release so some sort of update to our users of
>>> our current status would also be needed in our blog/news section.
>>>
>>> So are we looking more to the deadline of 18.04 or are we looking to the
>>> image of polished environment for users?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Darksurf
>>>
>>>
>>
> --

Regards,
Ettore Di Giacinto - Sabayon Project Lead

Re: [sabayon-dev] Release Goals?

[Jerrod Frost]

Well, I don't think we would have to remain fully frozen. There would be a
few bumps that would still take place.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 9:37 AM Stuart Rose  wrote:

> How much risk is there in allowing updated packages now, if we know we're
> going to spend more time polishing?  That could help mitigate the deluge of
> updates if it's a large concern.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:46 AM Geaaru  wrote:
>
>> On site official release from latest news is 16.11 (a very old release).
>>
>> From my side I think that could be correct choice 2.
>>
>> My cent
>>
>> On Mon, 2018-04-02 at 23:48 +, Jerrod Frost wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for a discussion on how we feel about releasing. A few
>> options have been presented. We can:
>>
>> 1. Delay Release, make a few package bumps, and polish release with a
>> Goal of 18.05 (mostly remaining frozen)
>> 2. Clean up and Release ASAP with 18.04 (Unfreeze and allow updates to
>> flow)
>>
>> I'm curious what the rest of the team thinks?
>> I like the idea of Delaying release to polish up. We can switch to
>> Uniform Icons across all spins, switch LightDM's Greeter to Slick-greeter,
>> etc. We could take the chance to wow the users. The downside is we'd hit
>> users with a wave of updates right after fresh install due to long freeze.
>> We'd also be delaying the release so some sort of update to our users of
>> our current status would also be needed in our blog/news section.
>>
>> So are we looking more to the deadline of 18.04 or are we looking to the
>> image of polished environment for users?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Darksurf
>>
>>
>

Re: [sabayon-dev] Release Goals?

[Geaaru]

On site official release from latest news is 16.11 (a very old
release). 
>From my side I think that could be correct choice 2.
My cent
On Mon, 2018-04-02 at 23:48 +, Jerrod Frost wrote:
> I'm looking for a discussion on how we feel about releasing. A few
> options have been presented. We can:
> 1. Delay Release, make a few package bumps, and polish release with a
> Goal of 18.05 (mostly remaining frozen)
> 2. Clean up and Release ASAP with 18.04 (Unfreeze and allow updates
> to flow)
> 
> I'm curious what the rest of the team thinks? 
> I like the idea of Delaying release to polish up. We can switch to
> Uniform Icons across all spins, switch LightDM's Greeter to Slick-
> greeter, etc. We could take the chance to wow the users. The downside
> is we'd hit users with a wave of updates right after fresh install
> due to long freeze. We'd also be delaying the release so some sort of
> update to our users of our current status would also be needed in our
> blog/news section.
> 
> So are we looking more to the deadline of 18.04 or are we looking to
> the image of polished environment for users?
> 
> Thanks,
> Darksurf