Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] Ubuntu/Debian support?

2014-11-17 Thread Sven Kieske


On 17/11/14 08:41, Itamar Heim wrote:
 
 1) Is this still an issue?
Yes of course, or is it implemented yet?

 2) Can we afford to dilute the focus we have as it is hard enough to
stabilize the currently supported distro's? is it worth the
potential impact?
In general: Software which supports multiple operating systems/distros
tends to be more stable, because some bugs just get found on specific
platforms.
the general ovirt technology is available everywhere (TM): java  python
 3) Would it have maintainers catering to it so it won't be left behind
/ delay development?
this is a question for devel@ovirt.org (CC'ed ;) )
 4) Why bother with host support, ovirt-node can be used?
My impression is, that most users don't use ovirt-node, because
this project has not enough dev power and lacks certain stuff
 5) Why bother with engine support, a virtual appliance or a docker
image could be used?
docker is inherently insecure (a famous red hatter said: it's like
download random code from the internet and run it as root), so docker
is no option today, imho.
 6) if we do it, should we focus on Ubuntu or Debian distro first?
well, the general rule of thumb is: if it runs on debian it runs on
ubuntu. I see way more debian than ubuntu servers, but for modern
deployments this changes. my personal opinion is, that ubuntu sucks
as a server os.
 7) if we do it, should we focus on host or engine first?
atm you are focusing host, there are some bugs open for that
and it's planned for 3.6. (that's what I read at least)

General note:

Imho ovirt would greatly benefit from more supported distros.
Not just debian and ubuntu, but you have to start somewhere.
you can attract many devs, which just don't use el/fedora.

furthermore, the basic technology runs on any linux distribution:
java and python

so these are just integration issues (path to configfiles,
different init systems, packaging not in rpm, but deb, etc.)

This is still a huge effort, but I guess canonical and various
debian developers would maybe join the effort to make ovirt
work on their platform.

my 2 cent
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Re: [ovirt-devel] [ovirt-users] Ubuntu/Debian support?

2014-11-17 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il 17/11/2014 14:22, Sven Kieske ha scritto:
 
 
 On 17/11/14 08:41, Itamar Heim wrote:

 1) Is this still an issue?
 Yes of course, or is it implemented yet?
 
 2) Can we afford to dilute the focus we have as it is hard enough to
stabilize the currently supported distro's? is it worth the
potential impact?
 In general: Software which supports multiple operating systems/distros
 tends to be more stable, because some bugs just get found on specific
 platforms.
 the general ovirt technology is available everywhere (TM): java  python
 3) Would it have maintainers catering to it so it won't be left behind
/ delay development?
 this is a question for devel@ovirt.org (CC'ed ;) )
 4) Why bother with host support, ovirt-node can be used?
 My impression is, that most users don't use ovirt-node, because
 this project has not enough dev power and lacks certain stuff
 5) Why bother with engine support, a virtual appliance or a docker
image could be used?
 docker is inherently insecure (a famous red hatter said: it's like
 download random code from the internet and run it as root), so docker
 is no option today, imho.
 6) if we do it, should we focus on Ubuntu or Debian distro first?
 well, the general rule of thumb is: if it runs on debian it runs on
 ubuntu. I see way more debian than ubuntu servers, but for modern
 deployments this changes. my personal opinion is, that ubuntu sucks
 as a server os.
 7) if we do it, should we focus on host or engine first?
 atm you are focusing host, there are some bugs open for that
 and it's planned for 3.6. (that's what I read at least)
 
 General note:
 
 Imho ovirt would greatly benefit from more supported distros.
 Not just debian and ubuntu, but you have to start somewhere.
 you can attract many devs, which just don't use el/fedora.
 
 furthermore, the basic technology runs on any linux distribution:
 java and python
 
 so these are just integration issues (path to configfiles,
 different init systems, packaging not in rpm, but deb, etc.)
 
 This is still a huge effort, but I guess canonical and various
 debian developers would maybe join the effort to make ovirt
 work on their platform.

I would really like to see them joining the effort! :-)

 
 my 2 cent
 


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